| skay | I'd like to use juju with a rackspace account. based on a quick search, people use manual provisioning? | 00:22 |
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| skay | if there is another approach, or if someone has tips, please let me know! | 00:22 |
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| marcoceppi | skay: not at the moment. The Rackspace openstack setup is to heavily modified from upstream openstack so our openstack provider code won't work against it | 00:28 |
| marcoceppi | skay: it's possible, with some code, to wrap the rackspace API and provide a "manual provider" like was done with digital ocean, but someone would have to do that | 00:28 |
| skay | marcoceppi: I may not bother for the rackspace stuff. thanks for telling me about it | 00:30 |
| * skay has donated rackspace services to work with | 00:30 | |
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| arbrandes | Hey guys! | 14:29 |
| arbrandes | Is there a reason why many Juju/OpenStack/HA guides recommend Percona over, say, MariaDB or MySQL? | 14:29 |
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| captine | Hi all. Am a bit of a tech hobbiest and am looking at using a mac mini server for either a hypervisor like proxmox to play with containers and vms, or installing MAAS and learning a bit of juju. anyone done anything like this and have advice? | 18:29 |
| jcastro | captine, we've used juju and maas with intel nucs before | 18:37 |
| jcastro | minis should work fine if it's similarly powerful hardware | 18:37 |
| captine | jcastro, mini has bios based raid0 2x1TB HDD, 16Gig ram and i7 processor. only have 1, so hence was thinking of using proxmox to then run 3 or so VMs to mimic MAAS. | 18:38 |
| jcastro | yeah that sounds much more powerful than the i5 nucs we have | 18:39 |
| captine | can MAAS and juju give me similar virtualization ability to a hypervisor? | 18:39 |
| jcastro | I've not done that personally | 18:40 |
| mbruzek | captine: MAAS can *manage* those VMs that you create on the mini, and by that I mean install Ubuntu on them when the boot pxe | 18:40 |
| mbruzek | captine: Once juju is orchestrating the MAAS you can deploy charms and or bundles to them. | 18:41 |
| captine | mbruzek, thanks. I think i will go with a hypervisor + some "MAAS" vm's. that way, if I understand you correctly, I can run a windows vm or other linux distro's/ubuntu flavours which doesnt sound possible with MAAS only. | 18:42 |
| captine | appreciate the responses all. | 18:42 |
| mbruzek | captine: Your original idea looked fine to me, I have 2 intel NUCs (i5) and created 8 VMs on one of them. Then set up MAAS to manage those VMs. Then I have juju controlling the MAAS | 18:44 |
| mbruzek | captine: I believe the latest version of MAAS can do other linux distros, but you will have to check the documentation on that, I haven't played with that yet. | 18:45 |
| mbruzek | captine: I am not a MAAS expert, but I have set it up on my NUC machines, several versions ago. For more information on that you might want to ask in #maas | 18:47 |
| captine | mbruzek, thanks a mil. what were you using for hosting the vms? e.g. hypervisor wise? | 18:48 |
| mbruzek | captine: I used KVM. But as long as the VM can boot pxe (from network) and MAAS controls that network interface it will set up the VMs for you. | 18:49 |
| mbruzek | captine: So my setup is: NUC1 Ubuntu 14.04 with Juju and MAAS installed. NUC2 Ubuntu server 14.04 with KVM, and 8 VMs created with 2GB of RAM each. The two NUCs are connected via a switch and MAAS controls NUC1's eth0 adapter. | 18:52 |
| mbruzek | captine: NUC1 has a separate wireless adapter that I use to connect to the Internet, and all traffic is routed through there. In the MAAS documentation you will see it recommended to have more than 1 network adapter. | 18:53 |
| mbruzek | captine: It is worth noting that MAAS can be installed on a VM itself, but again needs to control a network interface so it can send boot images over pxe. I have not done this, but version 2 might be set up with MAAS in a VM. | 18:54 |
| captine | awesome info. thanks | 19:03 |
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| marcoceppi | mbruzek: captine you'll need more than pxe boot because Maas needs to be able to turn the vms on. So you'll need anything that works with libvirt/qemu | 22:34 |
| designated | I have a service in a dying state that will not remove. What can I try besides destroying the machine? | 22:50 |
| designated | I've tried "juju destroy-service ceph" and "juju destroy-unit ceph/0", neither produce a result or any logs. | 22:51 |
| marcoceppi | designated: is it in an error state? | 22:53 |
| designated | marcoceppi: agent state is started | 22:55 |
| designated | marcoceppi: life shows dying | 22:55 |
| marcoceppi | designated: okay, was anything related to it? | 22:56 |
| designated | nope | 22:56 |
| marcoceppi | designated: can you pastebin your juju status output? | 22:57 |
| designated | marcoceppi: http://pastebin.com/Mm3Tg4ar | 22:58 |
| designated | marcoceppi: I recently deployed ceph-osd but no relationship was built between ceph and ceph-osd | 22:59 |
| designated | marcoceppi: this all started out of the ceph charm not forming a ring due to it not finding the keyring. So I tried to destroy the ceph service and reinstall. | 23:00 |
| designated | well tried to destroy, have to get past that first. | 23:00 |
| marcoceppi | designated: there are probably hooks still running in the machines | 23:00 |
| designated | marcoceppi: it's been at least an hour | 23:01 |
| marcoceppi | You can be patient (lame) or terminate-machine --force 2 3 4 | 23:02 |
| marcoceppi | designated: a him might be stuck and blocking | 23:02 |
| marcoceppi | That will destroy the service since there are no units at that point and the service is dying | 23:03 |
| designated | marcoceppi: i want to avoid destroying the machine if possible as this will not be a suitable solution in production. | 23:03 |
| designated | marcoceppi: so i have to destroy the whole machine because one service messed up? | 23:08 |
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| designated | For anyone that might be interested, SSHing into the machine and restarting the problem juju agent allowed me to resolve the unit and eventually destroy the service as a whole. | 23:28 |
| designated | does james page hang out in here? | 23:28 |
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