[00:19] <valorie> Riddell: something weird with that task
[00:19] <valorie> looks like you didn't save/submit yet
[00:19] <valorie> and I can't submit it
[00:19] <valorie> soee_: I wrote a rough draft, thanks for reminding me
[00:19] <valorie> I'll polish that and send
[07:36] <bukai> Riddell: Hi
[08:03] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: good morning
[08:03] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: good morning :)
[08:04] <ovidiu-florin> how's the theme testing going?
[08:04] <ovidiu-florin> http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/ still has the default theme
[08:05] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I have just finished installing wordpress now I am uploading my theme. 
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> greak
[08:07] <ovidiu-florin> great*
[08:07] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: If i import my database to the new one will all the pages that I had created be restored?
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> 1. It depend on what you have in that  DB
[08:08] <ovidiu-florin> 2. why do you need a DB for a theme?
[08:09] <bukai> I created all the pages in my local machine , that gets stored in the DB afaik hence,
[08:10] <bukai> importing it will import all the pages i have created I guess
[08:10] <ovidiu-florin> yes, but didn't you create those pages on a wordpress instance?
[08:11] <bukai> yes, I did
[08:11] <ovidiu-florin> then why not make that WP instance public?
[08:12] <bukai> ok, I will try doing it. Btw theme activated
[08:13] <ovidiu-florin> Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found)
[08:13] <ovidiu-florin> http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu/wp-content/themes/html5blank-stable/img/logo.png
[08:13] <ovidiu-florin> the url is wrong
[08:13] <ovidiu-florin> and I think there are some elements missing
[08:13] <bukai> I guess I have to change some of the links
[08:15] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: Is it a better option to upload to wordpress?
[08:16] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: please be specific. Wordpress the site, or Wordpress our instance.
[08:16] <bukai> our instance
[08:20] <ovidiu-florin> do you want to upload those images using the wordpress uploader? is that what you mean?
[08:21] <bukai> yes
[08:21] <ovidiu-florin> It would be better, in that case the WP instance will be aware of it
[08:24] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I am unable to make changes to the header.php, there is no update option!
[08:25] <ovidiu-florin> what are you trying to do?
[08:27] <bukai> correct the link ->http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu/wp-content/themes/html5blank-stable/img/logo.png to http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/themes/html5blank-stable/img/logo.png
[08:27] <bukai> in the header.php
[08:32] <bukai> I changed the premission to 755 still not working
[08:33] <ovidiu-florin> where is the site situated on the server? in what dir?
[08:34] <yofel> /home/subho020m/test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress - so 755 will not work as "www-data" has no write permissions
[08:36] <ovidiu-florin> found it, thank you
[08:36] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: can I edit the header file?
[08:36] <bukai> Sure
[08:37] <ovidiu-florin> please set the write permissions so I can
[08:37] <sitter> Mirv: as it turns out the bogus QSGSimpleTextureNode symbol retraction in plasma-framework I mentioned yesterday apparently only happens on utopic while vivid still exports them not sure why though :S
[08:38] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: how do I change the permission?
[08:38] <ovidiu-florin> what do you use to access the files?
[08:39] <bukai> what I use as in?
[08:39] <ovidiu-florin> ssh, dolphin, filezilla
[08:39] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: you're admin, so you could just 'sudo -u subho020m -i" if you want to edit them in the shell
[08:40] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: I'm admin? awesome
[08:40] <bukai> ssh
[08:41] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: thanks, but he should also learn how to do that
[08:41] <yofel> true :)
[08:41] <ovidiu-florin> cd into /home/subho020m/test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/wp-content/themes/
[08:41] <bukai> ok
[08:42] <bukai> then?
[08:42] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: do you recommend "chmod a+w -R html5blank-stable" or better to create a group webdevs and add me and bukai to it?
[08:44] <ovidiu-florin> I think the group thing is safer
[08:45] <yofel> latter would be cleaner, but would need SGID set on folders and www-data added to it so apache also has w permissions, former is faster
[08:45] <Mirv> sitter: oh, I did see it when I was compiling the ~rc 2.5 weeks ago: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/191605713/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.plasma-framework_5.4.0-0ubuntu3~rc~test1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:45] <Mirv> I haven't tried with the final yet because of your 5.5.0 transition and my scripts take the -proposed version and upload that, which wouldn't yet compile
[08:45] <sitter> most peculiar
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: then add me and bukaito the www-data group?
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> and chown -R :www-data ?
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> to the whole WP site?
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> but that would be a risk
[08:46] <ovidiu-florin> it gives appache access to everything
[08:47] <ovidiu-florin> I'll go with the webdevs group thing
[08:47] <yofel> well, apache only really needs access to wp-content/uploads/ usually, anything else it shouldn't need to access (unless you use the wp theme files editor, which is urgh)
[08:49] <ovidiu-florin> yeah
[08:49] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: 
[08:49] <ovidiu-florin> you are now added to the webdevs group
[08:49] <ovidiu-florin> change the group of the whole WPI dir to webdevs
[08:51] <ovidiu-florin> run: cd ~ && chown -R :webdevs test2.kubuntu.co.uk
[08:52] <ovidiu-florin> and then run: chmod -R g+rw test2.kubuntu.co.uk
[08:53] <bukai> ok, I will run this in /home/subho020m/ ?
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> yes
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> chown (change owner)
[08:53] <ovidiu-florin> :webdevs (change the group to webdevs)
[08:54] <ovidiu-florin> -R recursive, this and all under
[08:54] <ovidiu-florin> chmod (change mode) g+rw (add read write to group permissions)
[08:54] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: any questions?
[08:55] <bukai> what is the use of ~&& ?
[08:57] <ovidiu-florin> ~ translates to /home/$USER, which for you means /home/subho020m/
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> && means: if previous command was successfull, run this command
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> that's just to inline things
[08:58] <ovidiu-florin> you could not use && and run them separately
[09:01] <ovidiu-florin> mention me after you run the commands
[09:03] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: i ran those
[09:04] <ovidiu-florin> I still see the group of the test2.kubuntu.co.uk dir to be your group
[09:05] <bukai> yes, that is because it is giving operation not permitted
[09:06] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: you can't change thw group of your own files?
[09:12] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: what do we do now?
[09:13] <ovidiu-florin> I've changed the group for you
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: So the logo apears now
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> does the theme look ok to you?
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> to me it looks like there's no CSS
[09:20] <bukai> theme is ok, when the pages are added it would look as it is suppossed to look. But Logo does not appera for me
[09:22] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: the editor shows all the css are included.
[09:23] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: but still I cannot modify the header file directly from the browser!
[09:24]  * sitter falls off chair
[09:24] <sitter> Mirv: I was being stupid again... apparently my vivid rebuild was still done against 5.3 hence the symbol disagreement between vivid and utopic
[09:27] <Mirv> sitter: :D
[09:29] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hello. Could you make a GCI task for testing latest kubuntu vivid? I can test both amd64 and i686.
[09:32] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: you don't modify it from the browser
[09:32] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: use Shift+F5 to refresh, without cache
[09:37] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ok
[09:38]  * bukai leaves for a while
[10:04] <Riddell> erk new images
[10:04] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yeah get testing!
[10:07] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:ok, thank you.
[10:08] <Riddell> I made a task, but needs someone to approve it http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2014/5815061465530368
[10:32] <sitter> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9559098/
[10:32] <sitter> context: cmake package has different name so people have a hard time finding the right dev package
[10:33] <sitter> I think we briefly discussed this in munich
[10:33] <sitter> also affected: plasma-framework, baloo, kio
[10:41] <Riddell> sitter: meh, I'm skeptical, what do debian think?
[10:41] <soee> valorie: thank you, got your mail
[10:43] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2014/5815061465530368 approved, grab it while it's fresh
[10:44] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: claimed
[10:45] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: great, now test test! :)
[10:45] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: btw, should welcome dialog with language selection and etc be displayed after boot iso?
[10:46] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: can you take a screenshot?
[10:48] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I mean, testcase says that it should but there is only plasmashell and "Install Kubuntu" icon on desktop
[10:48] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yes, so probably we want to disable it from the live cd
[10:48] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: take a screenshot, file bug :)
[10:52] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Which package is related to this bug? AFAIK, I need to specify one.
[10:54] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: I won't remember until I see a screenshot :)
[10:54] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: probably kubuntu-notification-helper
[10:55] <sitter> ehm, no
[10:56] <sitter> that is not even enabled on the live session AFAIK
[10:56] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/GBSL2fP.jpg
[10:56] <EgorMatirov> from Kubuntu Desktop testcase: "The system boots properly and loads the installer displaying Welcome dialog with language selection and 'Try Kubuntu' and 'Install Kubuntu' buttons"
[10:57] <EgorMatirov> Is it just unchanged testcase?
[10:57] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh I see, that's talking about ubiquity-dm which isn't enabled
[10:57] <Riddell> because it doesn't work with sddm
[10:57] <Riddell> so yes something to fix, there is already a bug somewhere under ubiquity
[10:57] <Riddell> possibly a closed one
[10:57] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, got it. Thanks
[10:58] <Riddell> hmm can't find it, just report a new one then
[11:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: also, is bug with wrong timezone recognition during install related to ubiquity?
[11:01] <Riddell> um, probably, I don't know that one
[11:10] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Is there something specific that I should write in bug report (about ubiquity-dm). Now it looks like "Ubiquity-dm doesn't work with sddm. So it's now possible to use it with Kubuntu Live iso"
[11:10] <EgorMatirov> Maybe you know something related to this?
[11:10] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yes that'll do
[11:11] <EgorMatirov> I found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1362599
[11:12] <EgorMatirov> but fix was reverted
[11:14] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: well discovered, I set to to apply to ubiquity in vivid
[11:35] <Riddell> hi Sergobot 
[11:35] <Sergobot> Riddell: hello
[11:37] <Riddell> Sergobot: are you working on calligra 2.9 beta?
[11:37] <Riddell> I seem to have failed to assign that task
[11:37] <Sergobot> Riddell: Yes. But I can't build it
[11:38] <Riddell> ok assigned
[11:38] <Riddell> Sergobot: what's the problem?
[11:39] <Sergobot> Riddell: log https://paste.kde.org/p1oauxixq
[11:40] <Riddell> ah yes, patches need updating
[11:41] <sitter> Mirv: qtsensors push please :)
[11:42] <Sergobot> Riddell: so, how to update them?
[11:42] <Riddell> Sergobot: I expect the patch is still needed so you need to manually work out what needs to change, we use a tool called quilt to manage patches
[11:42] <Riddell> Sergobot: if you run  quilt push  you should get the same error as you pasted
[11:43] <Riddell> Sergobot: if you run   quilt push -f  it'll apply it and break (before it would test first and not apply it)
[11:43] <Riddell> Sergobot: actually if it's just fuzz (meaning line numbers changed) it may just apply with just  quilt push
[11:43] <Riddell> Sergobot: in which case use  quilt refresh  to update line numbers and it's all good
[11:47] <Sergobot> Riddell: I also have one unmet dependy. Calligra needs libkactivities-dev, but when I try to install, it wants to remove plasma-desctop from my PC
[11:48] <EgorMatirov> Sergobot: you need to have plasma5 afaik
[11:48] <Sergobot> Riddell: But I have it
[11:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: what version of kubuntu and of plasma do you have?
[11:49] <Sergobot> Kubuntu 14.10 and Plasma 5
[11:50] <Sergobot> Riddell: Plasma 5.1.1
[11:50] <Riddell> Sergobot: possible you'd be better developing it in a chroot made with debootstrap for vivid
[11:51] <Sergobot> Riddell: what do I need to run in terminal?
[11:51] <Riddell> Sergobot:  sudo debootstrap vivid vivid
[11:52] <Riddell> then sudo chroot vivid  will give you a vivid system (of sorts)
[11:56] <Mirv> sitter: qtsensors pushed
[11:56] <sitter> thanks
[12:04] <Riddell> anyone know about dh_acc? I can recreate this but I've no idea what it's moaning about (it's a new library soversion) https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-marble/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console
[12:05] <sitter>        dh_acc - abi-compliance-checker dump generator and comparison
[12:44] <Sergobot> Riddell: I still can't install libkactivities-dev. It needs to remove plasma
[12:45] <shadeslayer> Abi tar is probably out of date I guess
[12:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[12:55] <Riddell> Sergobot: so remove it?
[12:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: there isn't one, do I need to make one somehow?
[12:55] <Sergobot> Riddell: But I want to use Plasma
[12:56] <Riddell> Sergobot: it's just a chroot
[12:56] <Riddell> work in side the chroot
[12:57] <Sergobot> how to work inside it?
[12:58] <Sergobot> Riddell: how to work inside it?
[12:58] <yofel> shadeslayer, Riddell: marble ships an acc configuration without the actual ABI tarball. That can't work
[12:59] <yofel> personally I'm against using it at all until it supports uncompressed symbol tables
[13:00] <Riddell> Sergobot: sudo chroot vivid
[13:00] <Riddell> and then work as normal
[13:00] <Riddell> you might need to copy over any config files you have and you might need to export LANG=C and LC_ALL
[13:00] <Riddell> yofel: gotcha, I'll delete it then
[13:01] <Riddell> hi Sick_Rimmit 
[13:01] <Sick_Rimmit> catch u in a bit in meeting
[13:03] <shadeslayer> yofel: ahh
[13:03] <shadeslayer> Riddell: why not create the file instead
[13:03] <yofel> please ask debian first why it's not there before you commit a binary blob into git
[13:04] <shadeslayer> Heh
[13:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's the point? we already have .symbols files to check for ABI
[13:06] <yofel> acc is more accurate
[13:06] <yofel> which is good, only dh_acc sucks
[13:06] <shadeslayer> ^^
[13:07] <yofel> .symbols are more for something like dh_shlibdeps
[13:12]  * Riddell packaging the rest of kde applications
[13:16] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: only 1 test done? (and that one failed!)
[13:17] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:oh, no. (I have done all tests for amd64, they all have similar bug and I'm filling it now)
[13:18] <Riddell> great
[13:19] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ubiquity recognizes wrong location\timezone for me. It detects "Yekaterinburg" (UTC+6). But I live in Izhevsk (UTC+4). I'll fill this bug there: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+filebug
[13:20] <EgorMatirov> Is it right place?
[13:20] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: good enough, the code itself might be in debian-installer or maybe it's just part our how your internet is set up but ubiquity will do for now
[13:22] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, thanks. (about internet... I tried some geo services based on ip determination and all of them says that my ip belongs to Izhevsk)
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:31] <Riddell> hi BluesKaj_ 
[13:33] <BluesKaj_> Hi Riddell
[13:43] <Sergobot> Riddell: can you help me? https://paste.kde.org/pchlmwud0
[13:46] <Riddell> Sergobot: as I say use  quilt push  if that works then   quilt refresh   will tidy up the line numbers
[13:47] <Sergobot> Riddell: but quilt push doesn't help https://paste.kde.org/pxet4gdfi
[13:57] <Riddell> Sergobot: so you need to get dirty in the code
[13:57] <Riddell> quilt push -f
[13:57] <Riddell> then edit (with kate or emacs or whatever) krita/sketch/CMakeLists.txt krita/sketch/CMakeLists.txt.rej
[13:57] <Riddell> and manually copy over the changes
[13:57] <Riddell> then quilt refresh
[14:03] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hm, Am I right that `locale -a` should output all available locales in live session?
[14:04] <EgorMatirov> and that it should contains most of languages available for selection during install
[14:04] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yes I think so
[14:04] <Riddell> no during install will be loads of langauges, locale -a will only display the installed ones
[14:07] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: oh, ok. I have a bug when installing with wrong locale (looks like with any locale) and I read logs a bit
[14:07] <Riddell> what's the bug?
[14:08] <EgorMatirov> and ubiquity says that "setting locale failed. please check that your locale settings ... are supported and installed on your system"
[14:09] <EgorMatirov> I selected russian, and when I click "next" after choosing timezone it fails
[14:09] <EgorMatirov> I'll provide logs, wait a bit please
[14:10] <Sergobot> Riddell: I can't build it :( https://paste.kde.org/pfdvfvdfq
[14:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: you sorted one patch, this just needs the same stuff done
[14:12] <Riddell> Sergobot: in this case the patch is called upstream_switch-to-librevenge-based-import-libs.patch which tells me it comes from calligra (upstream) anyway so the patch is no longer needed
[14:12] <Riddell> Sergobot: so just delete the patch in debian/patches and remove from debian/patches/series
[14:12] <Riddell> Sergobot: run   quilt push -a  to check if all the patches apply
[14:16] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9560539/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/9560568/
[14:17] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: uh oh
[14:17] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: anything different on that install than on other installs? different language set?
[14:19] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I tried Russian, Ukrainian, French, "Catala", "Dansk" languages with same result.
[14:19] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: but fine with English?
[14:19] <EgorMatirov> I'll reboot now and try again
[14:20] <_Groo_> Riddell: whazup riddell, when you have a minute,could you take a look at plasma-workspace in ci? its the only package breaking a clean upgrade today, the others rebuild fine
[14:20] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hm, before - yes.
[14:21] <Riddell> _Groo_: porque mi? sitter knows more about ci
[14:22] <Sergobot> Riddell: I still can't build it. quilt push -a ran without issues.
[14:22] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: fooey, use  ubuntu-bug and report a bug then
[14:22] <sitter> read ci channel topic and start uisng a snapshot ppa
[14:22] <Riddell> Sergobot: what happens?
[14:22] <Sergobot> Riddell: there is veeeery long log
[14:23] <Riddell> Sergobot: do you see an error line?
[14:23] <Riddell> Sergobot: how far does it get?
[14:23] <Riddell> Sergobot: maybe we should set up a shared ec2 server so I can see what you're doing
[14:24] <Sergobot> Riddell: here is small part from log's end. https://paste.kde.org/pabtthpjp
[14:24] <Riddell> Sergobot: I think you have something mixed up with your chroot there
[14:25] <Sergobot> Riddell: what do you mean?
[14:25] <Riddell> Sergobot: vivid/ contain the chroot filesystem, you don't seem to be inside that filesystem, the filesystem seems to be inside your packaging
[14:26] <Sergobot> Riddell: so, what should I do?
[14:27] <Riddell> Sergobot: let me set up an ec2 and we can work on that
[14:27] <Sergobot> Riddell:  okay
[14:28] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: same with Russian, but it works at least with English and Belarusian
[14:29] <Riddell> lucky belarusians
[14:29] <EgorMatirov> :D
[14:33] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sitter: is that koko build yours?
[14:33] <Riddell> in ~blue-shell-next
[14:34] <Riddell> Sergobot: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[14:34] <Riddell> Sergobot: copy the .orig .debian and .dsc fiels to ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com:mnt/
[14:34] <Riddell> Sergobot: run byobu at your login
[14:35] <Sergobot> Riddell: Permission denied. May be you used my old pubkey?
[14:36] <Riddell> sitter: vhanda says that failing test needs internet access so can be ignored
[14:36] <Riddell> Sergobot: I used the one at https://launchpad.net/~sergobot256/+sshkeys
[14:36] <Riddell> Sergobot: update launchpad if you've a new one
[14:38] <Sergobot> Riddell: but there is the latest
[14:39] <Riddell> Sergobot: and ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com  fails?
[14:39] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: you can tick live session surely? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds/85790/testcases
[14:40] <Sergobot> Riddell: yes it fails
[14:41] <Riddell> Sergobot: try logging in with password foobar
[14:41] <Sergobot> Riddell: it doesn't ask for a password
[14:42] <Riddell> Sergobot: try again?
[14:42] <Sergobot> Riddell: logged!
[14:42] <Riddell> phew
[14:42] <Riddell> Sergobot: ok scp the three files into mnt/
[14:44] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: oh, I think yes (but with unbiquity-dm bug)
[14:44] <Riddell> yep
[14:48] <Sergobot> Riddell:  scp asks password, but doesn't accept foobar
[14:48] <Riddell> Sergobot: set username to ubuntu@ ?
[14:49] <Riddell> sitter: wouldn't we be better to set up meta packages than rename all the -dev packages ?
[14:49] <Riddell> kde-frameworks-tier1 ?
[14:49] <Sergobot> Riddell: it asks password for sergey@ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[14:50] <Riddell> 14:48 < Riddell> Sergobot: set username to ubuntu@ ?
[14:50] <EgorMatirov> Sergobot: Use ubuntu@ec2... 
[14:50] <sitter> Riddell: also prone to error as with the provides
[14:50] <sitter> also we wouldn't rename all the dev packages
[14:50] <sitter> we would rename 4 of them
[14:50] <sitter> to align with the 50 others
[14:51] <Riddell> aligns in some sense, makes them inconsistent in another sense
[14:51] <sitter> Riddell: how does it make them inconsistent?
[14:52] <Riddell> sitter: it names them after libraries which don't exist
[14:53] <yofel> in that case you would need to make kio-dev provide a -dev package for any lib it contains
[14:53] <yofel> just renaming kio sounds more sensible IMO...
[14:54] <sitter> Riddell: that's onlyt he case for KIO I think
[14:54] <sitter> you are being as nitpicky as I am usually :P
[14:54] <sitter> very unreasonable
[14:55] <sitter> the thing is: the user does not care, we do not care, the policy doesn't care, cmake doesn't care, our tooling doesn't care ... nothing cares whether or not libkf5kio-dev actually has a libkf5kioN associated with it
[14:56] <sitter> at any rate there is a libkf5kiocoreN for which libkf5kio-dev is still a better fit than kio-dev
[14:56] <Riddell> shrug, go ahead, but I will forever be reminding you there's no such thing as libkf5kio :)
[14:56] <sitter> pft
[14:56] <sitter> take it up with upstream :P
[14:57] <Riddell> I've already got dfaure to admit he was wrong and I was right once this year, I think twice would be just impossible
[14:57] <sitter> if the cmake packages weren't shared fro multiple libraries then there wasn't an argument to be had here :P
[14:59] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I filled bug report. What should I do with this test case? Mark as "Failed" and provide link to bug?
[15:00] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: which one?
[15:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Non-English Live Session & Installation
[15:01] <EgorMatirov> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1403914
[15:01] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yeah I guess that's a fail
[15:01] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, thank you.
[15:03] <Neo31> hello guys :)
[15:03] <Riddell> hola Neo31 
[15:03] <Riddell> Neo31: EgorMatirov is also doing testing today but as ever all help appreciated and don't be afraid to duplicate
[15:04] <EgorMatirov> Neo31: Hi. Yep, I could miss something.
[15:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: you're uploading calligra_2.9.0.orig.tar.gz ? but 2.9.0 doesn't exist where's that from?
[15:10] <Sergobot> Riddell: I cloned sources from git and packed them to archive
[15:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: nah just get the released version
[15:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: download (with wget) from here http://download.kde.org/unstable/calligra-2.8.90/
[15:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: we usually only package released versions because then if someone has a problem we all know what they're working with
[15:11] <Neo31> sure Riddell, it's a confirmation that everything is fine ;) and a training so next time I am more ready (actually i can teach new recruits from our loco team ;) )
[15:12] <Riddell> Neo31: ooh please :)
[15:13] <Sergobot> Riddell: done
[15:14] <Riddell> Sergobot: where are you getting the packaging from?
[15:14] <Neo31> I will ping you for testing and bug triaging stuff Riddell. but I might need a mentor recommendation for some dev stuff next month. I hope you know someone who can help (I will transfer the knowledge to our loco team of course)
[15:14] <Riddell> you'll need to rename calligra-2.8.90.tar.xz to follow the right name for orig tars
[15:15] <Riddell> Neo31: yeah me or others are happy to help, although I probably won't be around much for next two weeks since it's fiesta time
[15:16] <Neo31> ah yeah yeah, anytime u think appropriate really ;)
[15:18] <Sergobot> Riddell: unpack?
[15:18] <Riddell> Sergobot: yep
[15:23] <Riddell> EgorMatirov, Neo31: you guys onto i386?
[15:23] <Neo31> no i have amd64 i can get i386 if that is needed
[15:23] <Riddell> Neo31: yeah that's what needs most testing just now
[15:25] <Neo31> ok i will start downloading i386, but not sure if i can start testing early tonight (i'll be travelling to another city either tonight or early morning)
[15:26] <Riddell> thanks
[15:27] <Neo31> thanks to u Riddell ;)
[15:31] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: yep, I'm downloading i386
[15:31] <Riddell> Sergobot: fix the version number in the changelog
[15:32] <Sergobot> Riddell:  what should it be?
[15:33] <Riddell> Sergobot: 2.8.90
[15:33] <Riddell> missing the last 0
[15:38] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ping
[15:39] <Riddell> Sergobot: try this..
[15:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: not, porque me, its porque eu?
[15:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: no reason, you were alive, thats all :D
[15:45] <Sergobot> Riddell: What should I do next?
[15:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: and i dont have access,so ^.^
[15:46] <Riddell> Sergobot: fix the broken patch? didn't you already do that on your local computer?
[15:47] <Sergobot> Riddell: no, didn't
[15:48] <Riddell> Sergobot: observe :)
[15:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: voila
[15:50] <Riddell> Sergobot: voila
[15:51] <_Groo_> Sergobot: voila abuse detected! rule 256-b of the kubuntu-devel clearly states! just one voila per hour or riddell will kill a puppy.
[15:52] <Riddell> these are evil rules
[15:54] <_Groo_> Riddell: says the puppy killer!
[15:56] <Riddell> _Groo_: hey I have to feed my starving grandmother!
[15:57] <_Groo_> Riddell: give interns to her instead
[15:58] <_Groo_> Riddell: they are a good source of proteins
[15:58] <Riddell> hear that Sergobot? EgorMatirov? you're a good source of proteins
[15:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: do you know what to do?
[15:59] <Sergobot> Riddell: no. Can you help me?
[15:59] <Riddell> Sergobot: it's looking for a library boost-system but can't find it
[15:59] <Riddell> Sergobot: this must be something new since the 2.8.x version of calligra
[16:00] <Riddell> Sergobot: apt search  will let you find what it's called
[16:00] <_Groo_> Riddell: look at this, more work :D
[16:00] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rSx1UuV2
[16:01] <_Groo_> fun stuff
[16:01] <Riddell> Sergobot: go with libboost-system1.55-dev
[16:01] <_Groo_> dont mention it :)
[16:01] <Riddell> Sergobot: add it to build-depends in debian/control
[16:01] <Riddell> and debuild
[16:05] <Riddell> Sergobot: missing a comma in debian/control I think
[16:05] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I'm not good source of proteins! :D (Sorry, was busy)
[16:29] <Sergobot> Riddell: how to out from chroot?
[16:30] <EgorMatirov> Exit
[16:30] <EgorMatirov> exit
[16:30] <Sergobot> thanks, EgorMatirov
[16:30] <Riddell> Sergobot: chroot or the ec2?
[16:30] <Sergobot> chroot
[16:30] <Riddell> control-d will also do it
[16:39] <Sergobot> Riddell: build failed! :(
[16:40] <Riddell> Sergobot: yep, filenames will have changes
[16:40] <Riddell> changed
[16:40] <Riddell> Sergobot: you need to edit the .install files in debian/ for the new filesnames
[16:40] <Riddell> Sergobot: look in debian/tmp for the files
[16:41] <Riddell> and run  dh_install --list-missing  to check if the .install files are ok
[16:41] <Riddell> there will be lots of missing files as well, that's fine, they're listed in debian/not-installed
[16:41] <Riddell> but you'll have to check for new files
[16:48] <Sergobot> Riddell: Should I change anytjing in karbon.install?
[16:48] <Sergobot> *anything
[16:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: I don't know what files is it complaining about?
[16:54] <Sergobot> Riddell: What should I do?
[16:55] <Riddell> Sergobot: looks like it has renamed to libkarboncommon.so.14
[16:55] <Riddell> Sergobot: update that name in karbon.install
[16:57] <Riddell> Sergobot: eek you started the compile from the start again!
[16:57] <Riddell> that'll take ages
[16:57] <Riddell> just run  dh_install --list-missing  to check if the .install files are ok
[16:57] <Riddell> then  debuild -nc  once you're happy to build it without a clean
[16:57] <Riddell> (but too late now)
[17:01] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Hi, sorry was in Sprint demo earlier, how you doing ?
[17:01] <Riddell> sprint demo?
[17:02] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: how's the testing of i386?
[17:02] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: At work no worry
[17:03] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Our code development sprints run for 6 weeks, day before release we do a demo of what we been making to the company
[17:03] <EgorMatirov> Riddel: tested 2 cases. I'll fill them now
[17:03] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: a 6 week sprint! that's a marathon!
[17:04] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell: Yes, we're trialling out timings in our Scrum process, this run seems to have worked out
[17:09] <Riddell> sitter: what am I doing wrong? https://paste.kde.org/p1grhxvcf
[17:17] <Riddell> Sergobot: now you can update krita.install
[17:17] <Riddell> or karbon.install rather
[17:17] <Sergobot> Riddell: what's wrong with krita?
[17:18] <Riddell> Sergobot: karbon I ment
[17:23] <Riddell> Sergobot: comprende?
[17:26] <sitter> Riddell: that regex matches the cmakelists
[17:26] <sitter> well
[17:26] <sitter> s/regex/wildcard
[17:28] <Riddell> sitter: what?
[17:30] <Riddell> sitter: ah seems I was trying to apply it to the wrong package
[17:30] <sitter> that would also do it
[17:30] <sitter> pkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v 4:14.12.0 -c arm64,armfd,powerpc,ppc64el *txt
[17:30] <sitter> from your ls
[17:30] <sitter> matches
[17:31] <sitter> buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-*.txt AND CMakeLists.txt 
[17:31] <Riddell> ah yes
[17:45] <Riddell> Sergobot: compiling again?
[17:45] <Sergobot> Riddell: sorry, forgot about -nc flag :(
[17:46] <Riddell> it's your own time you're waisting :)
[17:46] <Riddell> wasteing 
[17:46] <Riddell> something like that
[18:05] <shadeslayer> anyone know of a man page where I can read apt-get's exit codes?
[18:06] <Riddell> man apt-get?
[18:07] <shadeslayer> doesn't have them
[18:07] <shadeslayer> quite annoying
[18:14] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: review please: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5815061465530368
[18:15] <Riddell> all done?
[18:15] <EgorMatirov> I didn't test live netbook only
[18:15] <Riddell> no that doesn't exist any more
[18:15] <Riddell> so you did the right thing
[18:18] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: thank you. Do you have any tasks related with code? :)
[18:21] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: thanks  closed!
[18:21] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: fixing icon sizes I think it my only one currently
[18:22] <Riddell> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600
[18:24] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: how should it done? I should add transparent space from "smaller" sizes? so, if it's 30x32, I add 1px from both sides and it becomes 32x32
[18:24] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: am I right?
[18:24] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: yep exactly
[18:24] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, thank you
[18:26] <Riddell> hi kranzer 
[18:26] <kranzer> hi Riddell 
[18:26] <kranzer> Riddell: as you see, I claimed that task
[18:27] <Riddell> kranzer: assigned :)
[18:27] <Riddell> kranzer: have you got kubuntu vivid running?
[18:27] <kranzer> no, I just wanted to ask you where to get it?
[18:28] <kranzer> Riddell: and even what is it?
[18:29] <EgorMatirov> hi kranzer :)
[18:29] <Riddell> kranzer: it's the codename for the development version of kubuntu
[18:29] <Riddell> which will be kubuntu 15.04
[18:29] <Riddell> download at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20141218/
[18:29] <Riddell> and install on either your computer or on a virtual machine
[18:30] <kranzer> Riddell: Isn't it that thing that I install yesterday?
[18:30] <Riddell> kranzer: could well be, what did you install yesterday?
[18:30] <kranzer> EgorMatirov: привет :)
[18:31] <kranzer> Riddell: Kubuntu 15.04, I tested it
[18:31] <soee> what is the Vivid release date ?
[18:31] <Riddell> kranzer: that's the one
[18:31] <Riddell> soee: 04/15
[18:32] <kranzer> Riddell: this thing yeah?
[18:32] <soee> Riddell: ok so i think ill sync my website release with Vivid release, so all the images etc. ill use will come from Vivid
[18:32] <kranzer> Riddell: okay, I need to reboot to windows
[18:32] <Riddell> soee: great yes
[18:32] <kranzer> to start my virtual machine
[18:37] <kranzer> Riddell: where to get the list of bugs?
[18:38] <Riddell> qa.kubuntu.co.uk
[18:38] <Riddell> link to utopic milestoned bugs
[18:38] <kranzer> Riddell: thank you
[18:39] <kranzer> Riddell: these ones https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscribe
[18:39] <kranzer> ?
[18:39] <Riddell> there's a reason that was a shortened url :)
[18:40] <Riddell> there's 7 of them
[18:41] <kranzer> Riddell: and only two of them are new
[18:44] <soee> Riddell: guys on #plasma told me that yesterday there was patch for plasma 5.2 that adds prev/next shortcuts to activities, is there any chance to backport it to 5.1 ?
[18:45] <Riddell> unlikely that code has changed a lot
[18:47] <Sergobot> Riddell: can you help me?
[18:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: looks like it's gone, just remove it from the .install file (control-k in nano to remove a line)
[18:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: and control-w to find text
[18:50] <Riddell> and control-z to background and fg to forground a terminal application
[18:51] <kranzer> Riddell: So, I need to triage only that two bugs?
[18:51] <Riddell> kranzer: triage all of them
[18:51] <Riddell> to check if they should be marked as valid for vivid
[18:51] <kranzer> hmmm
[18:51] <Riddell> then mark them valid for vivid, not sure what permissions you need for that
[18:51] <kranzer> Riddell: so
[18:52] <Riddell> probably you need to be a member of ~ubuntu-bugs or something
[18:52] <kranzer> Riddell: i need to triage utopic bugs, yeah?
[18:52] <Riddell> kranzer: yep
[18:52] <Riddell> to check if they are still valid on vivid
[18:52] <kranzer> Riddell: and if they're reproduced I am to mark them as valid for vivid
[18:53] <Riddell> kranzer: yep
[18:53] <Riddell> "nominate for series" "vivid"
[18:53] <Sergobot> Riddell: there isn't line with keximigrate_spreadsheet.so
[18:53] <kranzer> Riddell: I didn't understand your last message
[18:54] <Riddell> kranzer: to mark them for vivid click "nominate for series" "vivid"
[18:54] <Riddell> Sergobot: voila
[18:55] <kranzer> Riddell: where is the button I need to click?
[18:56] <Sergobot> Riddell: thanks
[18:57] <Riddell> kranzer: on the bug page
[18:58] <Riddell> kranzer: probably you need to apply to join this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol/+members
[18:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: kexi-postgresql-driver is the package it's trying to install into
[18:58] <Riddell> dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kexidb_pqxxsqldriver.so debian/kexi-postgresql-driver//usr/lib/kde4/ returned exit code 1
[18:59] <Riddell> bad file is kexidb_pqxxsqldriver.so  package is kexi-postgresql-driver
[18:59] <kranzer> Riddell: there's no button "Join group"
[19:06] <kranzer> Riddell: what to write if I didn't reproduce the bug?
[19:10] <Sergobot> Riddell: how to make this work faster? There are many lines in krita.install
[19:20] <kranzer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/1372920 everything works good on my VM
[20:29] <Riddell> Sergobot: open it in kate?  using sftp://ubuntu@aws.1.2.3/home/ubuntu/ ?
[20:33] <Sergobot> Riddell: how to do it?
[20:44] <EgorMatirov> Sergobot: use "kate sftp://ubuntu@ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com/path/to/your/file"
[21:06] <Riddell> File -> Open -> sftp://ubuntu@ec2.1.2.3/home/ubuntu/
[21:15] <kranzer>  Riddell: could you review?
[21:24] <R33D3M33R> hello, will KDE 14.12 come to Kubuntu 14.10 via kubuntu-backports ppa or should I use some other PPA
[21:24] <R33D3M33R> ?
[21:29] <Riddell> R33D3M33R: yes backports but I don't know when
[21:29] <R33D3M33R> great, no hurry
[21:30] <Riddell> kranzer: sorry too much cava to review
[21:31] <kranzer> Riddell: what is cava?
[21:34] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: Excuse me, did you submitted task with icons? (Nobody didn't confirm it yet, I'm just wondering if you understood that I want to work on it).
[21:59] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 unapproved
[21:59] <Riddell> ping valorie with it
[22:05] <Riddell> waa I can't get konqueror to run
[22:05] <Riddell> can anyone run konqueror?
[22:07] <Riddell> meh
[22:14] <yofel> on plain vivid it works fine
[22:16] <valorie> Riddell: done
[22:16] <valorie> published, I mean
[22:17] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: ↑
[22:17] <Riddell> "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" - Guybrush Threepwood, Monkey Island
[22:18] <Riddell> published kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-vivid-alpha-1
[22:19] <kranzer> Riddell: could you review my task?
[22:20] <soee> i think 2nd screenshot here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Alpha1/Kubuntu should use Plasma5 also :)
[22:25] <Riddell> soee: it's a wiki, edit :)
[23:49] <mparillo> soee: I replaced the second screenshot. If you have a high-resolution monitor, feel free to replace it again, showing more apps.
[23:49] <mparillo> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/VividVervet/Alpha1/Kubuntu
[23:50] <Riddell> thanks mparillo 
[23:52] <mparillo> Riddell: YW, and when Plasma 5.1.2 lands and resolves https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340966 (I hope), I could show more apps. No pressure though ;-)
[23:52] <soee> mparillo: thanks, i had no time since im working atm :/
[23:54] <mparillo> soee: YW. That work thing. Messes up our hobbies.