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t43tg3hh4so what software do you use to set your keyboard shortcut and hotkeys02:30
holsteint43tg3hh4: i usually just do it in the openbox config file02:51
t43tg3hh4where is the location of it and how do you know what the keys are called like "mail" or "calculator"02:52
holsteinhttp://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings02:53
holsteini'll just research the applications i want, and test starting them02:53
t43tg3hh4holstein, if i use xev to find out keys will it actually execute the keys such as if one is already set to logout?03:01
holsteint43tg3hh4: what?03:06
holsteinyou can use a tool to find out what keys are.. then, you can set them to do things.. such as logout.. though, i wouldnt03:07
t43tg3hh4yeah the tool is xev, but a logout hotkey is already set and i want to change it, but i wonder if i press it now to find out the key name if it will log me out of this session lol03:08
holsteint43tg3hh4: just look in the current config and see what is set to logout03:09
t43tg3hh4true, but somehow the other hotkeys log me out too03:11
t43tg3hh4maybe i'll try them later after i finish copying files03:11
JohnnyComeL8lyHey guys... I made a boo-boo.  A few months ago, I tried to upgrade the kernel to the latest version by getting a couple .deb archives and installing them.03:47
JohnnyComeL8lyMy Q: what to do?03:48
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: either get back to stock lubuntu, or ask for support from the maintainers of the "deb archives"..03:51
holstein!ppa03:51
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge03:51
holstein^if they are ppa's03:51
holsteinif not, you can just use the package manager of your choice to purge them.. hopefully, you have a "stock" kernel left, or, you can install a stock kernel easily03:52
JohnnyComeL8lyI can't get past "boot image not found."03:52
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: sure, but, i might see that error if my hard drive was failing, or some other hardware component03:53
JohnnyComeL8lyAnd I think that I have a grub prompt after that message.03:53
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: right, so, you'll have to just nail it down03:53
holsteinif you are not getting to grub, then, you have some other issue..03:53
JohnnyComeL8lyMeaning, make sure? If so, then how?03:54
holsteini would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair from a live iso/usb, and test my hard drive with gsmartcontrol while im in there03:54
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: meaning, you said "i think", and that wont work03:54
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: you have to test, and see for certain...03:54
JohnnyComeL8lyOkay, sorry.03:55
JohnnyComeL8lyThank you.03:56
holsteinno need to be sorry.. just test and see what is broken03:56
holsteini think you are assuming a kernel issue.. if you cant see grub, try looking for it/repairing it03:56
JohnnyComeL8lyIf I have a usb boot drive (that I am using to chat), couldn't I install boot repair on it?03:57
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: the link i gave outlines how to do so03:57
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: assuming the operating system you are using on the USB drive is linux/ubuntu ..or something with similar tools03:58
JohnnyComeL8lyafk.04:00
holsteinyou'll need to use the keybaord, for sure ;)04:00
ianorlint43tg3hh4: a lot of them are explianed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard04:02
JohnnyComeL8lyI'm back.04:50
JohnnyComeL8lyI am using LXLE.  I have another issue on this usb drive... Firefox isn't working properly.  Would you give me the command for the gui "boot fixer-upper."04:53
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: you'll need to ask for lxle support with the lxle team04:57
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: boot repair should work with *any* os, really... it should install grub04:58
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair04:58
JohnnyComeL8lyI just wanted the "apt install" name... please?05:03
JohnnyComeL8lyOh, by the way, I tried the LXLE channel first....05:04
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: friend, you can read the link.. it has a GUI05:04
holsteinsudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair05:04
holsteinsudo apt-get update05:04
holsteinsudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)05:04
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: ^ thats "copy-paste" from the link i gave you a few times.. but, the issue is, we are not certain that is the issue05:05
JohnnyComeL8lyMy firefox is wrenching... Otherwise I would have had it done. :-|05:06
holsteinthis is not a "Fix" for your problem.. you dont know exactly what your problem is, and i would think something has caused an issue with grub, like, hard drive failure, or a bad hardware component, or, breakage from the operating system you are using05:06
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: use a live iso, friend.. thats what i, and the link i gave, suggest05:06
holsteinfrom the live iso, firefox will *not* be "wrenching", and you can do the tests i suggested you do *before* just running the boot repair05:07
JohnnyComeL8lyI am missing my other flash drive... I need to buy one.05:07
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: thats not the only way to boot a live environment..05:08
JohnnyComeL8lyIn a cd?05:08
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: *anything* that boots..05:08
JohnnyComeL8lyOhh, SD, and all that.05:09
JohnnyComeL8lySo, I will get that going and let you know. Thanks again.05:09
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: let them know in #lxle05:10
ianorlinholstein: I don't think that is a channel05:10
ianorlinor at least it wasn't last time I checked05:10
holsteinianorlin: what is their channel? do you remember?05:11
ianorlinI think they had something on xmpp but no irc channel05:13
ianorlinthey do have forums at http://lxle.net/forum/05:14
JohnnyComeL8lyThere was nobody... what do you mean?05:16
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: i just mean, be sure you get support with the folks that support the operating system you are using05:16
JohnnyComeL8lyYes, okay. :-)05:17
holsteini believe the lxle site lists this channel as a support avenue, but its not05:17
JohnnyComeL8lyBut, I am having these problems with Lubuntu; the usb has LXLE.05:17
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: ok05:18
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: regardless, the boot repair will work, if you decide thats what you need05:18
JohnnyComeL8lyOkay, I just have to find a medium.05:19
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: ?05:19
JohnnyComeL8ly(USB, SD, etc...)05:20
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: how about the USB you are using? install gsmartcontrol and test the hard drive.. reboot lxle and use the memory test there.. if you find grub is bad, install boot repair, from the link i gave, into lxle on the USB stick05:20
ianorlinI think he is wondering how to download as firefox not working05:21
ianorlinwget could still work05:21
JohnnyComeL8lyDownload what/05:23
JohnnyComeL8ly*?05:23
JohnnyComeL8lyI know the basics for wget....05:24
JohnnyComeL8lyAnd the man pages still work, last I checked.05:24
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser05:27
JohnnyComeL8lyI was hoping I wouldn't have to go there....05:27
holstein!info gsmartcontrol05:27
ubottugsmartcontrol (source: gsmartcontrol): graphical user interface for smartctl. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.7-1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 554 kB, installed size 1923 kB05:27
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: go where? to the internet?05:27
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: its not chrome, and it works.. there are others05:28
holstein!info midori05:28
ubottumidori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1 (utopic), package size 1104 kB, installed size 3408 kB05:28
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install midori05:28
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: or, reset your firefox config, or use another user account..05:28
JohnnyComeL8lyOh, I didn't think to do that!05:29
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: you can literallly just rename your firefox config til you are done here, and have a booting working system, or know that your hard drive is bad, and *then* put it right back05:29
JohnnyComeL8lyI created another Firefox profile, but it still crashed.05:30
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: sure.. thats not what i suggested above05:30
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: what i suggest is *not* messing about with the profiles, the the user accounts on the system.. and, i would *literally* rename your firefox config files, and let new ones start.. or, install midori, or *any* other browser that will work, and just get the work dont05:31
holsteindone*05:31
JohnnyComeL8lyI already reset... You are right, you didn't say to do that; but it was my last hope for it.05:31
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: you are *far* from anything resembling a last hope05:32
JohnnyComeL8lyI'm installing midori05:32
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: i have suggested installing 2 other browsers. there are *many* in the repos of the OS you are using..05:32
JohnnyComeL8lyI don't mean to pester you... I hope things are ok.05:33
JohnnyComeL8lyI'm in the irc.mozilla.org #firefox channel and the guy said is was a very weird bug.05:34
JohnnyComeL8lyI like Midori...05:37
JohnnyComeL8lyWhat is a "Segmentation fault?"05:38
JohnnyComeL8lyI got that after Midori launched.05:39
JohnnyComeL8lyWith an appended "(core dumped)."05:40
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: i dont think you can assume you have a bug, right now... and its not related to lubuntu, correct?06:08
JohnnyComeL8lyinitramfs is what came up... ALERT!  /dev/disk/by-uuid/061f9178-ffff-4486bf67-9fea6bd90319 does not exist. Dropping to a shel!06:08
JohnnyComeL8lyYeah.06:09
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: sure.. ^ that is why i suggest using gsmartcontrol to run a test on the hardware.. the hard drive06:09
JohnnyComeL8lyOkay.06:09
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: you can get *all* the messages you mention from a failing hard drive.. and *all* hard drives fail06:09
JohnnyComeL8lyI forgot to do that first.06:09
holsteintest it, with the tool i mention, or another tool.. or a tool in the bios.. or take it to a professional06:10
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: i had suggested to do that *first*..06:10
JohnnyComeL8lyI know... :-|06:10
JohnnyComeL8lyBut I forgot until you mentioned it.06:11
holsteinwhat would i do? i would be getting any data off their that i dont have backed up06:11
holsteini would then, do a test that would take hours.. and read the report, and decide what to do06:11
JohnnyComeL8lyNone of it is "important." it was a pretty fresh install, which I was intending to give to my brother.06:12
holsteinJohnnyComeL8ly: so, you can read past that, and, hopefully, decide to do a test on the hardware06:12
holsteinit still looks a lot like this.. http://linuxhub.net/2010/09/scan-your-hard-disk-with-gsmartcontrol-on-ubuntu-10-10/06:13
JohnnyComeL8lyI am going to boot to LXLE, and run gsmartcontrol06:13
JohnnyComeL8lyholstein:  Gsmartcontrol says that my Maxtor 2B020H1 (the boot drive in question) passed "Basic health check."06:18
JohnnyComeL8lygsmartcontrol says the "Short Self-test" completed without errors.06:26
JohnnyComeL8lyI think I fixed my Firefox problem, but I didn't do anything besides make a new profile, restart the system, and use it when asked by the ProfileManager.06:38
JohnnyComeL8lyThe extended self-test came back with no errors.06:41
deltHello06:46
JohnnyComeL8lyI ran gsmartcontrol06:46
delthow do i get a lubuntu livecd to identify itself to the DHCP server as "laptop" and not "lubuntu"?06:46
delti changed the host name and then reconnected, still says its name is "lubuntu"06:46
delt(i need to change this for kerberos authentication)06:46
JohnnyComeL8lyHello,delt. Did you change the host in your router settings?06:47
delton the client?06:47
delti changed the hostname, yes06:47
deltthen disconnected, and reconnected to the wifi. Laptop still says its name is "lubuntu".06:48
JohnnyComeL8lyTry accessing the router admin page to do so.06:48
deltthe router is an old computer runnning slackware. It also acts as dhcp/dns server (dnsmasq) - i'm try to move away from static IP addresses....06:49
JohnnyComeL8lyOh, so do you know how to set your computer to have a "static dhcp address"?06:50
deltbut in *buntu, where do you determine how a host IDENTIFIES itself to the dhcp server? That's what i want to know. The /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf file isn't being much help :/06:51
JohnnyComeL8lyYou mean a client, I think.06:52
deltclient, yes06:52
JohnnyComeL8lyLemme look....06:52
lewellyndelt: did rebooting after the hostname change fix it?06:55
lewellyna daemon may be caching the hostname, and a reboot will be sure to fix that.06:56
JohnnyComeL8lySo, does yours have a "send host-name = gethostname();"06:56
deltlewellyn: i'm on a livecd, can't reboot ...06:59
deltanyway, ... i'll take care of this later - have to go now. thanks for the help guys07:00
lewellynmy general rule is to not even try to help with livecd issues. they often end up being something livecd-specific. :(07:00
JohnnyComeL8lyDoes your /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf have that line?07:00
JohnnyComeL8lyToo late....07:00
JohnnyComeL8lyI was going to tell the bloke that he needed to have a way to change the /etc/hosts file to his liking.07:02
lewellyn"i need krb to work on a livecd" seems like a fool's errand anyhow.07:02
ianorlinlewellyn: hard to issue a stable release update to a live cd which you could work07:02
JohnnyComeL8lyI got to go to bed.07:03
lewellynyou can always spin your own. but why? :P07:03
lewellynpxeboot in that case.07:03
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stivballmerhey people , i install lubuntu 12.04 with minimal lxde desktop, after i remove lightdm and install icewm, all good but pcmanfm dont mount drives and cd\dvd , i get error No Authorized, can fix it?19:06
stivballmeri have gvfs and udisks19:07
Mr_Cometnew user here. so no idea.19:09
Mr_Comet:(19:09
testdrstivballmer: dont know this combination in 12.04 -- why did you not use the more current version LUbuntu-14.04.1?19:10
testdrstivballmer: and did you check with the guest-user-account if its working there? Or create a new user-account and use it with lxde-Desktop to check the pcfman-settings are ok.19:11
testdrstivballmer: if you only did add pcfman, without the settings for udisk, it wont work even in lxde.19:12
wxltestdr: precise is not EOL until 201719:30
wxloh wait that's not true19:31
wxli i keep forgettnig lubuntu is different19:31
wxlit is actually EOL19:32
wxlyou nee dto upgrade stivballmer19:32
stivballmerwxl, no i use precise with backports xorg lucid , this pc very slow, and video drivers dont include in newest xorg and kernels.19:36
stivballmertestdr, can i login to guest under xinit? without lxsession and lightdm19:38
testdrstivballmer: you did cut down your 12.04 install without login-manager? Did you even remove lxde? And the main-problem is, i could only help with own tests for 14.04 - i can only hope its a question of the udisk-settings and maybe you even have not installed it. What video-driver is missing for your hardware?19:43
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