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[02:30] <t43tg3hh4> so what software do you use to set your keyboard shortcut and hotkeys
[02:51] <holstein> t43tg3hh4: i usually just do it in the openbox config file
[02:52] <t43tg3hh4> where is the location of it and how do you know what the keys are called like "mail" or "calculator"
[02:53] <holstein> http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings
[02:53] <holstein> i'll just research the applications i want, and test starting them
[03:01] <t43tg3hh4> holstein, if i use xev to find out keys will it actually execute the keys such as if one is already set to logout?
[03:06] <holstein> t43tg3hh4: what?
[03:07] <holstein> you can use a tool to find out what keys are.. then, you can set them to do things.. such as logout.. though, i wouldnt
[03:08] <t43tg3hh4> yeah the tool is xev, but a logout hotkey is already set and i want to change it, but i wonder if i press it now to find out the key name if it will log me out of this session lol
[03:09] <holstein> t43tg3hh4: just look in the current config and see what is set to logout
[03:11] <t43tg3hh4> true, but somehow the other hotkeys log me out too
[03:11] <t43tg3hh4> maybe i'll try them later after i finish copying files
[03:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hey guys... I made a boo-boo.  A few months ago, I tried to upgrade the kernel to the latest version by getting a couple .deb archives and installing them.
[03:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> My Q: what to do?
[03:51] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: either get back to stock lubuntu, or ask for support from the maintainers of the "deb archives"..
[03:51] <holstein> !ppa
[03:51] <ubottu> A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge
[03:51] <holstein> ^if they are ppa's
[03:52] <holstein> if not, you can just use the package manager of your choice to purge them.. hopefully, you have a "stock" kernel left, or, you can install a stock kernel easily
[03:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I can't get past "boot image not found."
[03:53] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: sure, but, i might see that error if my hard drive was failing, or some other hardware component
[03:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> And I think that I have a grub prompt after that message.
[03:53] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: right, so, you'll have to just nail it down
[03:53] <holstein> if you are not getting to grub, then, you have some other issue..
[03:54] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Meaning, make sure? If so, then how?
[03:54] <holstein> i would try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair from a live iso/usb, and test my hard drive with gsmartcontrol while im in there
[03:54] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: meaning, you said "i think", and that wont work
[03:54] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: you have to test, and see for certain...
[03:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Okay, sorry.
[03:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Thank you.
[03:56] <holstein> no need to be sorry.. just test and see what is broken
[03:56] <holstein> i think you are assuming a kernel issue.. if you cant see grub, try looking for it/repairing it
[03:57] <JohnnyComeL8ly> If I have a usb boot drive (that I am using to chat), couldn't I install boot repair on it?
[03:57] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: the link i gave outlines how to do so
[03:58] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: assuming the operating system you are using on the USB drive is linux/ubuntu ..or something with similar tools
[04:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> afk.
[04:00] <holstein> you'll need to use the keybaord, for sure ;)
[04:02] <ianorlin> t43tg3hh4: a lot of them are explianed in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard
[04:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm back.
[04:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I am using LXLE.  I have another issue on this usb drive... Firefox isn't working properly.  Would you give me the command for the gui "boot fixer-upper."
[04:57] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: you'll need to ask for lxle support with the lxle team
[04:58] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: boot repair should work with *any* os, really... it should install grub
[04:58] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I just wanted the "apt install" name... please?
[05:04] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, by the way, I tried the LXLE channel first....
[05:04] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: friend, you can read the link.. it has a GUI
[05:04] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[05:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[05:04] <holstein> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[05:05] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: ^ thats "copy-paste" from the link i gave you a few times.. but, the issue is, we are not certain that is the issue
[05:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> My firefox is wrenching... Otherwise I would have had it done. :-|
[05:06] <holstein> this is not a "Fix" for your problem.. you dont know exactly what your problem is, and i would think something has caused an issue with grub, like, hard drive failure, or a bad hardware component, or, breakage from the operating system you are using
[05:06] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: use a live iso, friend.. thats what i, and the link i gave, suggest
[05:07] <holstein> from the live iso, firefox will *not* be "wrenching", and you can do the tests i suggested you do *before* just running the boot repair
[05:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I am missing my other flash drive... I need to buy one.
[05:08] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: thats not the only way to boot a live environment..
[05:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> In a cd?
[05:08] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: *anything* that boots..
[05:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Ohh, SD, and all that.
[05:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> So, I will get that going and let you know. Thanks again.
[05:10] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: let them know in #lxle
[05:10] <ianorlin> holstein: I don't think that is a channel
[05:10] <ianorlin> or at least it wasn't last time I checked
[05:11] <holstein> ianorlin: what is their channel? do you remember?
[05:13] <ianorlin> I think they had something on xmpp but no irc channel
[05:14] <ianorlin> they do have forums at http://lxle.net/forum/
[05:16] <JohnnyComeL8ly> There was nobody... what do you mean?
[05:16] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: i just mean, be sure you get support with the folks that support the operating system you are using
[05:17] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yes, okay. :-)
[05:17] <holstein> i believe the lxle site lists this channel as a support avenue, but its not
[05:17] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But, I am having these problems with Lubuntu; the usb has LXLE.
[05:18] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: ok
[05:18] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: regardless, the boot repair will work, if you decide thats what you need
[05:19] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Okay, I just have to find a medium.
[05:19] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: ?
[05:20] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (USB, SD, etc...)
[05:20] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: how about the USB you are using? install gsmartcontrol and test the hard drive.. reboot lxle and use the memory test there.. if you find grub is bad, install boot repair, from the link i gave, into lxle on the USB stick
[05:21] <ianorlin> I think he is wondering how to download as firefox not working
[05:21] <ianorlin> wget could still work
[05:23] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Download what/
[05:23] <JohnnyComeL8ly> *?
[05:24] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I know the basics for wget....
[05:24] <JohnnyComeL8ly> And the man pages still work, last I checked.
[05:27] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[05:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I was hoping I wouldn't have to go there....
[05:27] <holstein> !info gsmartcontrol
[05:27] <ubottu> gsmartcontrol (source: gsmartcontrol): graphical user interface for smartctl. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.7-1ubuntu1 (utopic), package size 554 kB, installed size 1923 kB
[05:27] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: go where? to the internet?
[05:28] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: its not chrome, and it works.. there are others
[05:28] <holstein> !info midori
[05:28] <ubottu> midori (source: midori): fast, lightweight graphical web browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3+dfsg-0.1 (utopic), package size 1104 kB, installed size 3408 kB
[05:28] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install midori
[05:28] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: or, reset your firefox config, or use another user account..
[05:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, I didn't think to do that!
[05:29] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: you can literallly just rename your firefox config til you are done here, and have a booting working system, or know that your hard drive is bad, and *then* put it right back
[05:30] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I created another Firefox profile, but it still crashed.
[05:30] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: sure.. thats not what i suggested above
[05:31] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: what i suggest is *not* messing about with the profiles, the the user accounts on the system.. and, i would *literally* rename your firefox config files, and let new ones start.. or, install midori, or *any* other browser that will work, and just get the work dont
[05:31] <holstein> done*
[05:31] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I already reset... You are right, you didn't say to do that; but it was my last hope for it.
[05:32] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: you are *far* from anything resembling a last hope
[05:32] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm installing midori
[05:32] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: i have suggested installing 2 other browsers. there are *many* in the repos of the OS you are using..
[05:33] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I don't mean to pester you... I hope things are ok.
[05:34] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm in the irc.mozilla.org #firefox channel and the guy said is was a very weird bug.
[05:37] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I like Midori...
[05:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What is a "Segmentation fault?"
[05:39] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I got that after Midori launched.
[05:40] <JohnnyComeL8ly> With an appended "(core dumped)."
[06:08] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: i dont think you can assume you have a bug, right now... and its not related to lubuntu, correct?
[06:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> initramfs is what came up... ALERT!  /dev/disk/by-uuid/061f9178-ffff-4486bf67-9fea6bd90319 does not exist. Dropping to a shel!
[06:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yeah.
[06:09] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: sure.. ^ that is why i suggest using gsmartcontrol to run a test on the hardware.. the hard drive
[06:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Okay.
[06:09] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: you can get *all* the messages you mention from a failing hard drive.. and *all* hard drives fail
[06:09] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I forgot to do that first.
[06:10] <holstein> test it, with the tool i mention, or another tool.. or a tool in the bios.. or take it to a professional
[06:10] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: i had suggested to do that *first*..
[06:10] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I know... :-|
[06:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But I forgot until you mentioned it.
[06:11] <holstein> what would i do? i would be getting any data off their that i dont have backed up
[06:11] <holstein> i would then, do a test that would take hours.. and read the report, and decide what to do
[06:12] <JohnnyComeL8ly> None of it is "important." it was a pretty fresh install, which I was intending to give to my brother.
[06:12] <holstein> JohnnyComeL8ly: so, you can read past that, and, hopefully, decide to do a test on the hardware
[06:13] <holstein> it still looks a lot like this.. http://linuxhub.net/2010/09/scan-your-hard-disk-with-gsmartcontrol-on-ubuntu-10-10/
[06:13] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I am going to boot to LXLE, and run gsmartcontrol
[06:18] <JohnnyComeL8ly> holstein:  Gsmartcontrol says that my Maxtor 2B020H1 (the boot drive in question) passed "Basic health check."
[06:26] <JohnnyComeL8ly> gsmartcontrol says the "Short Self-test" completed without errors.
[06:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I think I fixed my Firefox problem, but I didn't do anything besides make a new profile, restart the system, and use it when asked by the ProfileManager.
[06:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> The extended self-test came back with no errors.
[06:46] <delt> Hello
[06:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I ran gsmartcontrol
[06:46] <delt> how do i get a lubuntu livecd to identify itself to the DHCP server as "laptop" and not "lubuntu"?
[06:46] <delt> i changed the host name and then reconnected, still says its name is "lubuntu"
[06:46] <delt> (i need to change this for kerberos authentication)
[06:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Hello,delt. Did you change the host in your router settings?
[06:47] <delt> on the client?
[06:47] <delt> i changed the hostname, yes
[06:48] <delt> then disconnected, and reconnected to the wifi. Laptop still says its name is "lubuntu".
[06:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Try accessing the router admin page to do so.
[06:49] <delt> the router is an old computer runnning slackware. It also acts as dhcp/dns server (dnsmasq) - i'm try to move away from static IP addresses....
[06:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Oh, so do you know how to set your computer to have a "static dhcp address"?
[06:51] <delt> but in *buntu, where do you determine how a host IDENTIFIES itself to the dhcp server? That's what i want to know. The /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf file isn't being much help :/
[06:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You mean a client, I think.
[06:52] <delt> client, yes
[06:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Lemme look....
[06:55] <lewellyn> delt: did rebooting after the hostname change fix it?
[06:56] <lewellyn> a daemon may be caching the hostname, and a reboot will be sure to fix that.
[06:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> So, does yours have a "send host-name = gethostname();"
[06:59] <delt> lewellyn: i'm on a livecd, can't reboot ...
[07:00] <delt> anyway, ... i'll take care of this later - have to go now. thanks for the help guys
[07:00] <lewellyn> my general rule is to not even try to help with livecd issues. they often end up being something livecd-specific. :(
[07:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Does your /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf have that line?
[07:00] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Too late....
[07:02] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I was going to tell the bloke that he needed to have a way to change the /etc/hosts file to his liking.
[07:02] <lewellyn> "i need krb to work on a livecd" seems like a fool's errand anyhow.
[07:02] <ianorlin> lewellyn: hard to issue a stable release update to a live cd which you could work
[07:03] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I got to go to bed.
[07:03] <lewellyn> you can always spin your own. but why? :P
[07:03] <lewellyn> pxeboot in that case.
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[19:06] <stivballmer> hey people , i install lubuntu 12.04 with minimal lxde desktop, after i remove lightdm and install icewm, all good but pcmanfm dont mount drives and cd\dvd , i get error No Authorized, can fix it?
[19:07] <stivballmer> i have gvfs and udisks
[19:09] <Mr_Comet> new user here. so no idea.
[19:09] <Mr_Comet> :(
[19:10] <testdr> stivballmer: dont know this combination in 12.04 -- why did you not use the more current version LUbuntu-14.04.1?
[19:11] <testdr> stivballmer: and did you check with the guest-user-account if its working there? Or create a new user-account and use it with lxde-Desktop to check the pcfman-settings are ok.
[19:12] <testdr> stivballmer: if you only did add pcfman, without the settings for udisk, it wont work even in lxde.
[19:30] <wxl> testdr: precise is not EOL until 2017
[19:31] <wxl> oh wait that's not true
[19:31] <wxl> i i keep forgettnig lubuntu is different
[19:32] <wxl> it is actually EOL
[19:32] <wxl> you nee dto upgrade stivballmer
[19:36] <stivballmer> wxl, no i use precise with backports xorg lucid , this pc very slow, and video drivers dont include in newest xorg and kernels.
[19:38] <stivballmer> testdr, can i login to guest under xinit? without lxsession and lightdm
[19:43] <testdr> stivballmer: you did cut down your 12.04 install without login-manager? Did you even remove lxde? And the main-problem is, i could only help with own tests for 14.04 - i can only hope its a question of the udisk-settings and maybe you even have not installed it. What video-driver is missing for your hardware?
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