[00:00] <darkxst> maybe seed or do it from -shell
[00:00] <darkxst> amjjawad, my respin built but didnt migrate
[00:02] <amjjawad> darkxst, email sent.
[00:02] <amjjawad> what is their IRC channel?
[00:12] <james0r> upgraded to gnome gnome 3.14 yesterday and now my dropbox systray icon is invisible. i use the topicons extensions but its missing from the lower tray when i turn off topicons as well
[00:34] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Since sending the message, i realised adwaita is a depend (of -data, which is needed by the normal package)
[00:35] <Noskcaj> next, can we drop the systemd patch for mutter that's in the PPA?
[01:11] <ubuntu_user_246> I have a question: Is there a difference between installing Ubuntu + afterwards gnome-desktop _ vs_ installing ubuntu gnome ?
[01:11] <Noskcaj> ubuntu_user_246, You'll have unity desktop as well, and slightly different pre-installed programs if you install ubuntu first
[01:14] <ubuntu_user_246> I just want to use gnome desktop in the end ... I am just wondering if there are any disadvadtages in installing ubuntu gnome, maybe it is a stupid question: but it is really the same ubuntu behind? Programs working that work in the first setup (ubuntu + gnome-desktop _I am using right now) will always also work in ubuntu gnome (I plan to install on my new laptop)
[01:15] <ubuntu_user_246> sorry, typo ... -working
[01:18] <amjjawad> ubuntu_user_246, do install Ubuntu GNOME on a virtual machine and see how that is different than the normal Ubuntu :)
[01:20] <Noskcaj> ubuntu_user_246, It's the same almost exactly. We have different default programs and themes, but otherwise the two OSes are identical
[01:20] <amjjawad> +1
[01:21] <amjjawad> same core system, same repositories, same release schedule
[01:22] <ubuntu_user_246> thanks amjjawad, that is also a good suggestion, but I was aiming to save time ... Thanks Noskcaj, that was the answer I was looking for, (and thanks amjjawad for agreeing)
[01:22] <amjjawad> ubuntu_user_246, you're more than welcome :)
[01:29] <ubuntu_user_246> just one last question out of curiousity: is there a list of the default programs of ubuntu-gnome ? So one could compare to Ubuntu.. could not find it on the webpages ... or would you say the numbers of programs being different is so small that you would always go for ubuntu gnome instead of installing gnome-desktop on a "normal" ubuntu?
[01:31] <eliasps> Hi everyone
[01:31] <Noskcaj> ubuntu_user_246, You can check either with the germinate output, at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ , which is every single package. Or the seeds, which are what desktop packages we have http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/seeds/
[01:46] <Noskcaj> darkxst, What's the staus of gnome-shell and network-manager? Do we need to add any patches?
[01:59] <amjjawad> And, if there is any one here speaks Portuguese ... Ubuntu GNOME page now is in their language :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Portuguese
[02:10] <MrSavage> How can I restart gnome shell from the terminal?
[02:12] <Noskcaj> MrSavage, I assume a kill command then "gnome-shell"
[02:12] <MrSavage> ok
[02:13] <Noskcaj> i.e. "killall gnome-shell && gnome-shell",
[02:13] <eliasps> gnome-shell -r also works.
[02:14] <Noskcaj> that's better then, use that
[04:03] <amjjawad> darkxst, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/326/builds/85635/testcases
[04:03] <amjjawad> darkxst,
[04:03] <amjjawad> WARNING: This image is OVERSIZED. This should never happen during milestone testing.
[04:04] <amjjawad> darkxst, perhaps that is why it did not show yet under A1?
[04:05] <amjjawad> darkxst, should I cancel the re-build request and then ask the server to re-build? will wait for your feedback
[06:00] <darkxst> Noskcaj, not sure it needs patches, but if so they would already be in the ppa package
[06:01] <darkxst> Noskcaj, check with -desktop team, I don't think they want to pull in adwaita-icon-theme (atleast until it gets split like gnome-themes is)
[06:01] <darkxst> Noskcaj, yes drop systemd patch from mutter
[06:02] <darkxst> amjjawad, our images have always been OVERSIZED! we have an arbitrary limit of 1GB, but the website probably complains as its over the size of a CD
[06:02] <amjjawad> darkxst, how to make the images show up on the other page of A1?!
[06:03] <darkxst> amjjawad, I did a rebuild this morning, it should have in theory migrated automatically, but guess some switch needs to be flick
[06:03] <amjjawad> darkxst, do WE have to do anything at all? or WE should only wait?
[06:03] <amjjawad> darkxst, I sent to the release team + I sent to their IRC channel - nothing yet.
[06:03] <amjjawad> I mean no reply yet
[06:04] <darkxst> amjjawad, its early over there still, try again in an hour or two
[06:04] <darkxst> oh my rebuild this morning got stuck
[06:04] <amjjawad> darkxst, well, I sent an email to a mailing list so hopefully someone who is closer to our timezone can read it :)
[06:05] <amjjawad> darkxst, this is what I was talking and asking about
[06:05] <amjjawad> I feel something is stuck
[06:06] <darkxst> amjjawad, probably best to ping stgraber
[06:06] <darkxst> he should be around in a couple of hours I suspect
[06:07] <amjjawad> darkxst, I take that as we can't do anything at all from our end, correct?
[06:07] <darkxst> amjjawad, no nothing we can do
[06:07] <amjjawad> darkxst, I see. That's what I needed to know :)
[06:07] <amjjawad> Noskcaj, can you add the technical information on the release notes please?
[06:08] <darkxst> what technical information? none of this has landed yet, will be in A2
[06:08] <amjjawad> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/Alpha1/UbuntuGNOME#Alpha_1_Highlights
[06:09] <darkxst> amjjawad, there are no real highlights
[06:09] <amjjawad> do keep that empty for now?!
[06:09] <amjjawad> so*
[06:10] <darkxst> a few apps have been updated to 3.14
[06:10] <darkxst> gnome-terminal has transparency again
[06:10] <darkxst> ^thats a favourite winging point for many
[06:11] <darkxst> amjjawad u can also add "Window control Button layouts have been reverted to upstream default (only close), use gnome-tweak-tool if you want to get back the other controls"
[06:12] <amjjawad> what about gnone-shell ?
[06:13] <amjjawad> still half 3.12 and half 3.14?
[06:17] <darkxst> gnome-shell is still 3.12
[06:18] <darkxst> we are doing a huge update next week, will get most of core 3.14 in (gnome-shell, gnome-control-center etc)
[06:18] <darkxst> and hopefully most apps will be at 3.14 by A2
[06:19] <darkxst> most of the work done so far this cycle, was not really user visible, unfortunately gtk update took may longer than expected
[06:19] <mgedmin> the gtk+ inspector is new in 3.14, right?  that's a neat user-visible feature for developers
[06:20] <darkxst> mgedmin, yes its great (but we don't have gtk 3.14 in A1, that should land Friday after freeze lifts)
[06:20] <Noskcaj> darkxst, for gnome-shell, a revert was attached, but left off.
[06:20]  * mgedmin wonders if the intel video driver client-side-decoration shadow bug is fixed in vivid yet
[06:20] <darkxst> Noskcaj, what do you mean?
[06:21] <darkxst> Noskcaj,  might be better also use a single bug to track since everything is getting uploaded in lock-step
[06:21] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:21] <Noskcaj> debian/patches/revert_networkagent_VPN_hints.patch: this requires newer network manager to work.
[06:21] <darkxst> Noskcaj, copy the gtk package from landing-008 to a test ppa, and build against that
[06:21] <amjjawad> darkxst, what happened to the themes we discussed on 14.10 cycle? which we couldn't include on the final 14.10
[06:21] <Noskcaj> but you left the patch off
[06:23] <darkxst> Noskcaj, really? it wouldn't build without that
[06:23] <Noskcaj> haven't built anything yet, will do that in the next hour
[06:23] <darkxst> Noskcaj, oh maybe it was fixed in 3.14.1?
[06:26] <darkxst> Noskcaj, try build without it, if it fails with something about SecretAgentCapabilities, then the revert is still needed
[06:26] <Noskcaj> ok
[06:26] <darkxst> erm but its Javascript, it will fail at run time
[06:27] <darkxst> but anyway, I am running shell from staging so guess its not an issue
[06:28] <darkxst> mgedmin, no, if you feel like bisecting the intel driver to find the commit that fixed it that would help
[06:29] <darkxst> I have a feeling they don't want to upload the current intel driver for stability reasons
[06:30]  * darkxst is about to head out, will be back in a few hours maybe
[09:54] <darkxst> stratus_ss, hi
[09:56] <mgedmin> darkxst, I found the upstream intel commit that fixes CSD shadows: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/commit/?id=48a33fc379b17eed195875222ad773c911d9dff1
[09:57] <darkxst> mgedmin, great! can you add that to the LP bug ;)
[09:59] <mgedmin> did that 1st thing: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1378188
[10:01] <darkxst> mgedmin, ok thanks, its a little outside our scope, but hopefully they will be happy to cherry-pick that patch
[10:02] <mgedmin> out of scope for 15.04?  or for a 14.10 sru?
[10:03] <darkxst> mgedmin, out of our team scope
[10:03] <mgedmin> ah, of course :)
[10:03] <darkxst> mgedmin, if it affects 3.12 sru should be fine, but not sure that it did?
[10:04] <mgedmin> does gtk+ 3.12 support client-side decorations?
[10:04] <darkxst> yes
[10:04] <mgedmin> hmm
[10:04] <mgedmin> I haven't seen this problem with 3.12
[10:04] <darkxst> but I never heard reports of broken shadows
[10:04] <mgedmin> ok, I can conclusively say: this bug didn't affect gtk+ 3.12
[10:05] <mgedmin> I tested my python app with csd in docker containers of various ubuntu versions (14.04, 14.10) as well as debian unstable
[10:05] <mgedmin> only debian unstable (gtk 3.14) exhibited the shadow bug
[10:06] <darkxst> mgedmin, if you can package it, cherry-pick the patch and attach a debdiff to the bug
[10:06] <mgedmin> debdiff against 2:2.99.914-1~exp1ubuntu4.1 from utopic-updates?
[10:06] <mgedmin> or do you want a debdiff for vivid?
[10:07] <darkxst> mgedmin, vivid
[10:07] <darkxst> I don't think it would be accepted in utopic
[10:08]  * mgedmin runs pull-lp-source xserver-xorg-video-intel vivid
[10:10]  * mgedmin runs wget http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel/patch/?id=48a33fc379b17eed195875222ad773c911d9dff1 -O debian/patches/fix-sna-trapezoids.patch
[10:10]  * mgedmin adds the patch to debian/patches/series
[10:12] <mgedmin> hmm
[10:12] <mgedmin> the vivid package is 2:2.99.916+git20141119-1~exp1ubuntu1
[10:13] <mgedmin> git20141119
[10:13] <mgedmin> the upstream fix was committed on 20140902
[10:14] <mgedmin> darkxst, when I asked if this was already fixed in vivid, and you said "no", does that mean you know someone who is experiencing this bug on vivid?
[10:15]  * mgedmin looks at src/sna/sna_trapezoids_boxes.c
[10:15] <mgedmin> it looks like that patch is already applied
[10:15] <mgedmin> so either this is fixed or the cause of the bug is something else
[10:15] <darkxst> mgedmin, it wasnt fixed a week ago
[10:16]  * mgedmin will attempt to backport the patch to the utopic package and see if that fixes the problem for him
[10:17] <mgedmin> "new upstream snapshot" git20141119 has a debian/changelog date of 23 Nov 2014
[10:17] <darkxst> vivid seems to have a git snapshot now though
[10:17] <mgedmin> oh, in experimental
[10:17] <mgedmin> it was uploaded to vivid on Dec 12
[10:17] <mgedmin> a bit less than a week ago :)
[10:18] <darkxst> mgedmin, just like I said ;) I can't track every single bug/package ;)
[10:18] <mgedmin> of course :)
[10:41] <amjjawad> darkxst,
[10:41] <amjjawad> I'm trying to find someone on the release team channel but no luck so far and just got your email
[10:41] <darkxst> amjjawad, just emailed you, images  are on their way
[10:42] <amjjawad> who has done that?
[10:42] <darkxst> amjjawad, cjwatson is fixing the mess
[10:42] <amjjawad> darkxst, okay, luckily it's being handled
[10:43] <darkxst> amjjawad, did you miss the convo on -release?
[10:43] <darkxst> particularly,
[10:43] <amjjawad> what is that darkxst ?
 this is because somebody WHO HAS NOT YET IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES blatted the crontab
[10:43] <darkxst> #ubuntu-release
[10:44] <amjjawad> did I miss the convo?
[10:44] <amjjawad> the conversation you mean?
[10:44] <darkxst> amjjawad, yes and apparently you missed it
[10:44] <amjjawad> darkxst, I logged out to have some rest and I just logged in :(
[10:45] <amjjawad> hmm, I don't know if we shall have time to test?!
[10:45] <darkxst> amjjawad, no! don't do that, especially not during release cycles
[10:45] <darkxst> mark yourself away and then have rest
[10:46] <amjjawad> darkxst, I turned off my machine
[10:46] <darkxst> or check the backlogs via ubutu bot
[10:46] <amjjawad> we're on +11 GMT darkxst and it is not really easy to follow up with the other part of the world
[10:47] <amjjawad> I think the A1 will be ready at morning time (our time).
[10:47] <darkxst> amjjawad, most of the EU crew come online about 6-7pm our time
[10:48] <amjjawad> darkxst, to solve this, I think we need to find someone on the EU time zone who could help when we're away
[10:48] <amjjawad> as it does not make sense to remain online all the time :/
[10:48] <amjjawad> I do have real life :)
[10:49] <darkxst> amjjawad, my computer is online 24/7 but I am not!
[10:49] <amjjawad> Sigh, why people do NOT subscribe to the mailing list :(
[10:50] <amjjawad> darkxst, that is your machine, not mine :D
[10:50] <darkxst> its very easy to catch these people in their morning
[10:51] <darkxst> though of course the mad rush to release happens when we are sleeping
[10:51] <amjjawad> which we can't help it ...
[10:51] <amjjawad> we do need to ZzZz
[10:51] <amjjawad> that's why we better find a backup plan so we could sleep in peace
[10:51] <darkxst> amjjawad, get a VPS and run a bouncer then )
[10:51] <amjjawad> how about I turn to a robot so I will never sleep? :P
[10:52] <darkxst> amjjawad, no, speed it bad ;)
[10:53] <amjjawad> I'll try to find someone either on -5 GMT or GMT
[10:54] <darkxst> amjjawad, if you can fine someone pretty close too GMT to do all release management, then great
[10:55] <amjjawad> darkxst, this is the plan
[10:55] <amjjawad> because we're on +11 GMT and it means you need to be online at 4am or 5am
[10:55] <amjjawad> it happened I was online when 14.10 got released
[10:55] <darkxst> heh, no chance
[10:55] <darkxst> I just sleep then
[10:55] <amjjawad> BUT ... don't count on me for the next time ;)
[10:56] <amjjawad> that's why we need someone at GMT
[10:56] <amjjawad> I mean really, we're a team ... why it is only me and you? :(
[10:57] <darkxst> because people really haven't stepped up to the higher tasks
[10:57] <darkxst> But latch onto Bruce/octoquad
[10:58] <amjjawad> darkxst, that is indeed why I started a new plan for this cycle and things are getting better. Keith is great guy and he's helpful
[10:58] <amjjawad> and Elias is too
[10:58] <amjjawad> Stathios as well (not sure about the name)
[10:59] <amjjawad> many people are interested this cycle and they're contributing so hopefully this cycle or at least the next one, it is really a team work
[10:59] <amjjawad> I need to find a way to explain to people that what we do is not going to kill anyone and that won't bite :D
[10:59] <amjjawad> that's the only way
[11:01] <darkxst> amjjawad, I think the real problem, is that most people to offer help have no experience or no passion, so its pretty much blank promises, however yes there have been a bunch of people across the various teams this cycle that maybe actually have that
[11:03] <amjjawad> darkxst, I see you point and I agree but let's see ...
[11:06] <amjjawad> darkxst, who is Bruce by the way? I haven't met him before
[11:10] <darkxst> amjjawad, seems he is quite keen to step up for Qa team
[11:10] <darkxst> you must have seen his emails
[11:10] <amjjawad> darkxst, yes, I read his email but ...
[11:11] <amjjawad> yes, two so far, one a reply to yours when you CC'ed him and one is a reply for my email
[11:11] <darkxst> I gave him bug access
[11:11] <amjjawad> but we really need something beyond testing
[11:12] <amjjawad> just like the reply you sent
[11:12]  * darkxst trying to get him tracking bugs overall
[11:13] <darkxst> not that I should even have to deal with sorting out QA team
[11:14] <amjjawad> it is the only team that needs tons of attention
[11:14] <amjjawad> let's see ... we can see how serious he is
[11:14] <amjjawad> and I will try to get others to step in as well
[11:15] <darkxst> all teams need attention
[11:16] <amjjawad> I know but QA people need more follow up than the rest
[11:16] <amjjawad> and only very few are proactive
[11:18] <darkxst> not likw we have found any proactive members for packaging team
[11:19] <amjjawad> we had but they vanished
[11:19] <amjjawad> forgot their names
[11:20] <darkxst> who vanished? empty promises?
[11:20] <amjjawad> the translation initiative is very promising. I hope we can get more serious people ...
[11:20] <amjjawad> I can't remember their names but we had 2 people IIRC on the packaging team .. but I don't see them anymore
[11:21] <darkxst> Jackson is the only one really, and while he is great doing merges, no coding whatsoever
[11:21] <amjjawad> hmm
[11:21] <amjjawad> that leaves you and him only :/
[11:21] <darkxst> Steve is still hanging in there helping with backend stuff
[11:21] <amjjawad> Ah, good to know
[11:21] <darkxst> amjjawad, ricotz as well
[11:22] <amjjawad> sadly, all of them are silent on the mailing list
[11:22] <darkxst> not too sure what happend to ahoneybun
[11:22] <amjjawad> I saw him the other day
[11:22] <amjjawad> he is interested in Ubuntu Touch :/
[11:23] <amjjawad> and he just vanished without saying a word
[11:23] <amjjawad> ahhhh
[11:23] <amjjawad> I don't know but considering we're all volunteers, I still look at the bright side and thankfully, we have something in hand ...
[11:23] <darkxst> surely GNOME touch would be so much better ;)
[11:24] <amjjawad> hehe yes :D
[11:24] <darkxst> thats not really a started effort though
[11:24] <amjjawad> I think the whole Unity thing has started just for the sake of Phones :/
[11:25] <darkxst> amjjawad, no, I don't agree
[11:26] <darkxst> its much like people say gnome-shell was designed for touch devices, and I can guarentee it wasn't
[11:26] <amjjawad> Unity is still causing lots of arguments and debating
[11:26] <amjjawad> and the efforts have been focused on the phone and less attention to the desktop
[11:27] <darkxst> nah unity arguments have died down these days
[11:27] <amjjawad> finally :D
[11:27] <amjjawad> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds
[11:27] <darkxst> its either Canonical is fragmenting the universe
[11:28] <darkxst> or systemd is controlling the universe
[11:30] <darkxst> amjjawad, thank cjwatson, then put the work out for rapid testing ;)
[11:31] <darkxst> I'm going to bed
[11:31] <amjjawad> darkxst, I have but will do it yet again
[11:31] <amjjawad> haha
[11:31] <amjjawad> Ok, still early for me to sleep now
[11:31] <amjjawad> sleep well darkxst
[11:31] <amjjawad> how is your immigration process? :P
[11:31] <amjjawad> hope not to a tent :P
[11:32] <darkxst> amjjawad, I have to cut thrrough a concrete slab before plumber arrives at 10
[11:32] <darkxst> amjjawad, I have door and window now ;)
[11:32] <amjjawad> you moved?
[11:33] <darkxst> shed is not finished! sisted moves down tomorrow
[11:33] <darkxst> sister even
[11:35]  * darkxst gtg, night
[11:36] <amjjawad> good night darkxst
[11:36] <amjjawad> sorry, was writing ...
[12:20] <LinDol> hi all
[17:02] <Riddell> anyone able to say if alpha 1 images are ready to go?
[17:10] <octoquad> Hi Riddell, yes they are http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/328/builds
[17:11] <Riddell> it says they're not
[17:11] <octoquad> There a people currently testing as I type this
[17:12] <octoquad> The link above will take you directly to the alpha 1 testcases
[17:12] <Riddell> yes I know, I'm the release manager
[17:12] <octoquad> ok
[17:13] <octoquad> well it's definitely their.
[17:13] <octoquad> there*
[17:14] <octoquad> Partial status needs to be checked under Filters
[19:20] <Noskcaj> darkxst, most of the packages are done, g-s-d needs some patch refreshes
[19:30] <MrSavage> My gnome shell crashed
[19:30] <MrSavage> how can i check logs on what happened?
[20:04] <octoquad> MrSavage, you can have a look at your .xsession-errors file in your home directory
[20:04] <MrSavage> octoquad: I don't have that file
[20:13] <stemid> I'm using virtualbox 4.3.18 packaged by ubuntu on ubuntu gnome. I have two issues that I thought I'd see if anyone here recognized as known or not. first my gemalto smart card reader has to have its usb cable reseated every time I reboot my windows VM or it will not be recognized in the guest. secondly I sometimes randomly get a keyboard issue where all input is garbled and all I can do is reboot the guest to fix it. this seems to only happen if I am swi
[20:36] <mattj> haya all
[20:36] <mattj> anyone here who can help me with a little workspace problem on ug 14.10
[20:40] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I can take a look at g-s-d then
[20:40] <Noskcaj> !ask | mjayk
[20:40] <Noskcaj> thanks darkxst
[20:40] <mjayk> In dynamic workspace mode i only have 1 workspace and am unable to add new ones
[20:40] <darkxst> where are the rest of the packages?
[20:40] <mjayk> in static each workspace is an identical copy
[20:40] <mjayk> anyone have any clues
[20:47] <darkxst> mjayk, there is a workspace only on primary option in tweak tool
[20:47] <darkxst> Noskcaj, and do you have wip branch for g-s-d?
[20:48] <Noskcaj> darkxst, no
[20:48] <Noskcaj> i just saw the ppa saying needs refresh
[20:49] <Noskcaj> ppa:noskcaj/gtk3.14
[20:52] <darkxst> Noskcaj, hmm, its just the accountsservice patch?
[20:52] <mjayk> darkxst: yea thats how im changing dynamic to static
[20:55] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Maybe also "debian/patches/ubuntu-force-lock-group.patch: Disable for now, this breaks keyboard layout switching (LP: #1385844)"
[20:57] <mjayk> if anyone has a clues please lemme know
[20:58] <darkxst> Noskcaj, I think it was confirmed that the bug for that is fixed
[20:58] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:59] <darkxst> Noskcaj, and I don't want to carry invasive patches like that anyway
[20:59] <octoquad> mjayk, please open gnome tweak tool and click on Workspaces. What is the Workspace Creation setting set to?
[21:00] <octoquad> sorry, should have said hello first :) hello mjayk
[21:03] <mjayk> dynamic
[21:04] <octoquad> Do you want a few, like 4 automatically created for you?
[21:04] <mjayk> i just want the default gnome3 method that makes the for you when you need them
[21:04] <mjayk> if i set it to static and say 4 workspaces
[21:04] <octoquad> Then Dynamic is the right option.
[21:04] <mjayk> each worksapce is identical
[21:05] <octoquad> You need a running application to create a new one a workspace
[21:05] <mjayk> yea that doesnt work
[21:05] <octoquad> *on a work space
[21:06] <mjayk> yea octoquad that doest seam to work
[21:07] <octoquad> Explain what you did, just to confirm
[21:07] <mjayk> made a new terminal
[21:07] <mjayk> tried to move it down via the stanard keys
[21:07] <octoquad> ah
[21:07] <mjayk> then via the windows key and drag and rop
[21:07] <octoquad> my apologies, you need two apps
[21:07] <mjayk> yea i know how it normally works
[21:08] <octoquad> ok
[21:09] <Noskcaj> darkxst, I'm also having issues refreshing 52_region_language.patch in g-c-c. If you have time, could you please look at the last file it patches.
[21:09] <octoquad> I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve. Can you elaborate, this is default behaviour. Are you saying that even if you don
[21:09] <mjayk> you know in dynamic workspace mode
[21:09] <octoquad> 't have any apps running, you should just be able to create a new workspace and launch an app
[21:09] <mjayk> if you want to move a 2nd window to a new workspace you can
[21:09] <mjayk> either move it with the deffault keys
[21:09] <mjayk> or drag and drop it using hte workspace switcher overview
[21:09] <mjayk> ye
[21:10] <mjayk> im saying regardless of the number of open apps
[21:10] <mjayk> i cant create any othe workspaces
[21:14] <octoquad> ok, let me test quickly. I need to launch a VM i have way to many windows open to test properly.
[21:14] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok
[21:14] <Noskcaj> ty
[21:27] <octoquad> darkxst, any chance we can fix that dark blue text in plymouth in 15.04? I can hardly read what it says with cryptsetup.
[21:28] <darkxst> octoquad, sure, file a bug and then get the artwork guys to look into it
[21:29] <octoquad> Also seems to a be problem with accepting passwords with graphical plymouth and LVM, password goes straight to tty7 in plaintext and plymouth looks dead if you switch between tty1 and back to tty7
[21:30] <octoquad> soft reset gives me text based plymouth and I can enter password and proceed
[21:30] <octoquad> so weird
[21:30] <darkxst> that maybe fallout from systemd update
[21:32] <octoquad> lots of similar but various reports around this, mainly upgrading from 14.04 to 14.10 and this happens, but this is a bit unique due to soft reset working with text version and cold boot with graphical not working at all
[21:32] <octoquad> as described above
[21:33] <octoquad> not sure if I should just a file a new bug report and add it to iso tracker
[21:33] <octoquad> I think I'll have to fail the LVM testcase due to this
[21:34] <darkxst> if there is an existing bug that is same use that, otherwise file a new one
[21:35] <octoquad> ok. for the blue text on plymouth should I report against plymouth and also mark ubuntu gnome affected, set to confirm, assign it to artwork team and link to 15.04 milestone?
[21:39] <darkxst> Noskcaj, g-c-c region patch http://pastebin.com/de60datB
[21:40] <Noskcaj> thanks
[21:40] <darkxst> octoquad, all of those except don't assign it
[21:40] <darkxst> email a bug ref to their email list
[21:41] <octoquad> ok thanks
[21:46] <darkxst> octoquad, the "assign to" field on bugs is really meant for individuals to indicate they are working on the bug
[21:55] <darkxst> Noskcaj, g-s-d accountservice patch http://pastebin.com/SGXqegsk
[21:55] <darkxst> and go ahead and drop the force-lock patch
[22:06] <darkxst> Noskcaj, for g-t-s, should recommend 'gnome-icon-theme-full | adwaita-icon-theme'
[22:09] <octoquad> I know, jumped the gun a bit :P
[22:10] <darkxst> Noskcaj, geoclue-2.0 MIR was approved, the revert in g-c-c can be dropped
[22:16] <darkxst> same for g-s-d
[22:24] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll get that done thisafternoon.
[22:26] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks, I will do proper reviews tonight
[22:26] <darkxst> do link branches to the bug as well, especially for the packages owned by -desktop