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| * stgraber waves | 16:00 | |
| stgraber | #startmeeting Ubuntu Foundations team meeting | 16:00 |
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| stgraber | #topic Lightning round | 16:00 |
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| stgraber | stgraber@dakara:~$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh bdmurray slangasek cjwatson caribou infinity mvo sil2100 robru) | 16:00 |
| stgraber | sil2100 slangasek bdmurray cjwatson barry mvo jodh doko infinity robru stgraber caribou | 16:00 |
| stgraber | sil2100 isn't on IRC and slangasek is off, so that's bdmurray's turn | 16:00 |
| bdmurray | errors updates: display message for devices that haven't reported a crash display retrace failure reason for a bucket speed up user=foundations-bugs for users subscribed to a lot of packages | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | daisy updates: landed --nouse-sandbox daisy retracer option for testing speediness added retracer.py options to wipe sandbox and cache directories after each retrace | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | modified javascript to prevent loading most-common-problems API query multiple times | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | merged thedac's changes to daisy-retracer charm to hold packages (x2) | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | uploaded packages to vivid to get ddebs for all architectures | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | merged fix for ubuntu-release-upgrader / update-manager bug LP: #1399916 | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1399916 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/just/in/case:-)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399916 | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | uploaded whoopsie fixing bugs LP: #1397340, LP: #1392412 | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | updated apport check-contents-server-age merge proposal based off pitti's feedback | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1397340 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "Integer overflow when processing giant field values" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1397340 | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | review of halted phased updates and overrode false positives | 16:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1392412 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "may frequently try to upload reports when server responds with 400" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1392412 | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | submitted ubuntu-archive-tools mp with sru-review changes for ubuntu-sponsors | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | pinged tseliot about bug LP: #1401390 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1401390 in hwloc (Ubuntu) "apt-get install nvidia-331 triggers 691 packages to be installed" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1401390 | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | working with webops to test retracer changes to improve time to retrace in scaling stack | 16:02 |
| bdmurray | ✔ done | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | 50% on holiday since last meeting. New mattress and happier back! | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Ran Mathieu through the process of gfxboot-theme-ubuntu translation updates. | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Finished off changes to component-mismatches to categorise output by teams. Should be generalisable to other reports without too ridiculous an amount of work. | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Helped out with ubuntu-touch-meta fix/workaround for bug 1399597. | 16:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1399597 in oxide-qt (Ubuntu) "unity-scope-click autopkgtests with a package installation failure because of oxide codecs" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1399597 | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Rescued bits of cdimage crontab after some of it was lost by mistake yesterday. | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Worked on making update_excuses.html a bit friendlier by way of bug 1403849. | 16:02 |
| ubottu | bug 1403849 in Launchpad itself "URLs for latest build of a DistributionSourcePackageRelease on a given architecture" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1403849 | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | Went through and closed ~120 browser tabs and unassigned myself from ~60 bug tasks. See you next year from the Launchpad team! | 16:02 |
| cjwatson | .. | 16:02 |
| doko | "happy" new year :-/ | 16:03 |
| stgraber | barry and mvo don't seem to be around, so that's doko then | 16:05 |
| stgraber | or jodh | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | isn't jodh around? yeah | 16:05 |
| jodh | * working on ubuntu core. | 16:06 |
| jodh | ᐔ | 16:06 |
| stgraber | ah, there he is, just wasn't on mumble :) | 16:06 |
| doko | - still working on the ISL 0.14 transition | 16:06 |
| doko | - I think there is too much deadlock here waiting on things ... | 16:06 |
| doko | - GCC 5 packaging updates | 16:06 |
| doko | - some MIR's | 16:06 |
| doko | - preparing for GCC 4.8.4 | 16:06 |
| doko | - address SRU icedtea-web regression | 16:06 |
| doko | - trying to get my INBOX better organized | 16:06 |
| doko | (done) | 16:06 |
| infinity | * emergency kernel SRU wrangling | 16:07 |
| infinity | * helped out cyphermox with some armhf alignment issues | 16:07 |
| infinity | * worked on IBM RAS package updates | 16:07 |
| infinity | * general AA and SRU tasks | 16:07 |
| infinity | * worked on dpkg trigger loop bug with guillem | 16:07 |
| infinity | * discussion and planning for a thing I can't talk about yet | 16:07 |
| infinity | (done) | 16:07 |
| stgraber | robru: | 16:07 |
| stgraber | alright, no robru apparently | 16:10 |
| stgraber | At the snappy sprint in CPT last week, back home on Monday evening. | 16:10 |
| stgraber | Alpha-1 prep work on Tuesday, some LXD code reviews, organizing a LXD sprint. | 16:10 |
| stgraber | Off on Wednesday. | 16:10 |
| stgraber | More alpha-1 and travel organization today. | 16:10 |
| stgraber | (DONE) | 16:10 |
| caribou | Misc bug hunting : | 16:10 |
| caribou | * iscsi boot | 16:10 |
| caribou | * diskless NFS boot | 16:10 |
| caribou | * CUPS env variable overriding | 16:10 |
| caribou | (done) | 16:11 |
| stgraber | I don't suppose anyone has something that they'd want to present to the team? | 16:11 |
| caribou | My best wishes for the upcoming new year ? | 16:11 |
| infinity | This basket of puppies. | 16:11 |
| stgraber | :) | 16:12 |
| stgraber | #topic AOB | 16:12 |
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| doko | 30% of open positions in the new year? | 16:12 |
| stgraber | so I guess it's time to wish everyone a merry christmas, happy new year, ... and see you all at some point in 2015! | 16:12 |
| caribou | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9561433/ | 16:13 |
| doko | well, would like to see | 16:13 |
| caribou | from Mr cking expertise | 16:13 |
| stgraber | :) | 16:13 |
| * cjwatson waves, good luck to you all | 16:14 | |
| infinity | caribou: Do I want to compile that? | 16:14 |
| cking | caribou, this one is better: http://smackerelofopinion.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/infinite-snowflake.html | 16:14 |
| caribou | infinity: sure, you'll get a nice song out of it | 16:14 |
| caribou | cking: yeah, I saw your post, didn't get to compile this one yet | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | incidentally I dug out the mail, we've been called "Foundations" since August 2008 | 16:15 |
| cking | caribou, or this one https://pastebin.canonical.com/122595/ | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | and the distro team split into platform (now foundations) and desktop in December 2006 | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | so it's been about that long | 16:17 |
| stgraber | sounds like that's it for this meeting then, thanks everyone! | 16:18 |
| stgraber | #endmeeting | 16:18 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 16:18:54 2014 UTC. | 16:18 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-12-18-16.00.moin.txt | 16:18 |
| dholbach | hello | 17:01 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 17:02 |
| GunnarHj | hi | 17:02 |
| dholbach | I had to restart my computer... did somebody start the meeting already? | 17:03 |
| mhall119 | o/ | 17:03 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: nobody has started it yet | 17:03 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 17:03 |
| dholbach | thanks | 17:03 |
| dholbach | #startmeeting | 17:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Dec 18 17:03:51 2014 UTC. The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 17:03 |
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| dholbach | #chair mhall119 czajkowski elfy cprofitt | 17:03 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: cprofitt czajkowski dholbach elfy mhall119 | 17:03 |
| dholbach | pleia2 sent apologies | 17:04 |
| dholbach | hello GunnarHj - thanks a lot for joining | 17:04 |
| elfy | o/ | 17:04 |
| dholbach | today we're meeting up with the Translations Team and the Ubuntu GNOME team | 17:04 |
| dholbach | #topic Catching up with the Translations team | 17:05 |
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| dholbach | GunnarHj, you're here for the translations team? | 17:05 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Yes. Doing some translating coordination. | 17:05 |
| elfy | hi GunnarHj | 17:05 |
| dholbach | excellent | 17:05 |
| GunnarHj | elfy: Hi | 17:05 |
| dholbach | anyone here from the translations folks? | 17:05 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, how are things going? what is the overall stand of things? | 17:06 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Well, there is one thing I'd like to mention. | 17:07 |
| GunnarHj | dpm used to be an active translation coordinator from the Canonical side. AFAIK he has other commitments now, and nobody has really replaced him in that role. | 17:07 |
| GunnarHj | The leader of the Swedish translators team mentioned this the other day. | 17:08 |
| GunnarHj | The result is that there is a lack of drive in order to get translation related bugs fixed etc. | 17:08 |
| dholbach | Which of his responsibilities do you see missing most today? | 17:09 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Pushing for translation related bugs to be fixed. | 17:09 |
| dholbach | "drive" could mean a couple of things, like "recruit new translators" or "keep on top of bugs and ping the individual teams", or is it something entirely different? | 17:09 |
| dholbach | right | 17:10 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Mostly "keep on top of..." | 17:10 |
| dholbach | is this bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations? | 17:10 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: sounds like we need to talk to him about handing over some of that to another of us on the team | 17:10 |
| * mhall119 not it | 17:10 | |
| mhall119 | :) | 17:10 |
| dholbach | nice one | 17:10 |
| dholbach | maybe somebody who's not around right now? :) | 17:10 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Yes, it's bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations I'm talking about. | 17:11 |
| dholbach | but more seriously though, I agree that this is important | 17:11 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: +1, one of those slackers on holiday already | 17:11 |
| mhall119 | yeah, we'll get dpm to gracefully hand that over if he can't continue doing it | 17:12 |
| dholbach | mhall119, I think this was years ago | 17:12 |
| dholbach | so not something that changed recently | 17:13 |
| mhall119 | it probably changed more when he took over jono's tasks | 17:13 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: It was, but at the same time dpm has been deeply involved in getting translations into the phone. | 17:13 |
| dholbach | mhall119, I don't think so | 17:13 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, ok | 17:14 |
| mhall119 | either way, we'll talk to him and get a resolution | 17:14 |
| GunnarHj | Great! | 17:14 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, do the translations coordinators meet every now and then to discuss issues like the above? | 17:14 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: No. I'm the latest team member, and have never attended any such meeting. | 17:15 |
| dholbach | and do most of the leaders of the individual translations teams read their bug mail? (so would subscribing them to the bugs work?) | 17:15 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, I see | 17:15 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: All team leaderas are supposed to be subscribed to ubuntu-translators. | 17:16 |
| dholbach | maybe it'd be time to recruit some of the more active team leads into the coordination team? | 17:16 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, ah, that's a mailing list where the bug mail goes? | 17:16 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: When a t-bug is assigned a team, somebody usually takes care of it. | 17:16 |
| dholbach | ok, that's great to hear | 17:17 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: No, that's a info type mailing list. | 17:17 |
| dholbach | so it's mostly about going through the list of unassigned bugs | 17:17 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: There are two kinds of bugs: Pure translation bugs (handled by the translators) and package bugs affecting translations. It's the latter kind which is the problem. | 17:18 |
| dholbach | I see | 17:18 |
| dholbach | do they get a special tag or something which makes it clearer that it's not a pure translation thing? | 17:18 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: A proper task is added - if somebody knows which package is affected... | 17:19 |
| dholbach | ok... maybe I'm drilling too much into the organisational parts of the problem right now | 17:20 |
| dholbach | maybe a team of interested folks could set up kind of a dashboard or something, to figure out which bugs are unassigned, etc | 17:20 |
| dholbach | I feel that having a team of coordinators again would also help a lot | 17:21 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Yeah... the mailing list I mentioned is occationally used for that purpose. | 17:21 |
| dholbach | so this doesn't just rest with your | 17:21 |
| dholbach | you | 17:21 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Right, that responsibility is to heave for a simple volunteer like me. ;) | 17:22 |
| dholbach | I just thought that having a number of interested people meet up every now and then would also help, so you could have a look at tasks like "assign bugs" and so on | 17:22 |
| GunnarHj | s/heave/heavy/ | 17:22 |
| dholbach | and maybe rotate some of the responsibilities as well | 17:22 |
| GunnarHj | Wort considering IMO. | 17:22 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, if you could send the Community Council a mail and CC dpm that'd be good - we should look into this and see if we can help setting up a team again | 17:23 |
| dholbach | translations are super important | 17:23 |
| dholbach | it's the window through which most people of the world see Ubuntu | 17:23 |
| GunnarHj | dholbach: Ok, will do. | 17:23 |
| dholbach | so we should try to organise this a bit better | 17:23 |
| dholbach | thanks a lot GunnarHj | 17:23 |
| mhall119 | +1 what dholbach said | 17:23 |
| dholbach | and thanks a lot for all your hard work throughout the years | 17:24 |
| mhall119 | thanks GunnarHj | 17:24 |
| dholbach | it's great to have you around! | 17:24 |
| GunnarHj | np | 17:24 |
| dholbach | GunnarHj, anything else you would like to mention now before we move over to mail? | 17:24 |
| GunnarHj | No, I'm done for today. :) | 17:24 |
| dholbach | czajkowski, cprofitt, mhall119: any more questions from you? | 17:24 |
| dholbach | ACTION: GunnarHj to mail CC and dpm to figure out translations coordinator team organisation. | 17:25 |
| dholbach | OK, looks like everyone else is good as well - moving on. :-) | 17:25 |
| dholbach | Do we have anyone here from the Ubuntu GNOME team | 17:25 |
| dholbach | ? | 17:25 |
| dholbach | I can't quite remember, but wasn't most of the team in AU somewhere? | 17:26 |
| elfy | both amjjawad and tim are in oz timezone - so unless someone else is here I would doubt it | 17:26 |
| elfy | yep | 17:26 |
| dholbach | ok, then we should probably reschedule :) | 17:26 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: none from me | 17:27 |
| elfy | they were trying to sort a time suitable for both :) | 17:27 |
| dholbach | ok | 17:27 |
| dholbach | let's move on then | 17:27 |
| dholbach | pleia2 added another agenda item | 17:28 |
| dholbach | #topic Open ubuntu-community-team threads | 17:28 |
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| dholbach | the comment said: Help the team continue to define work items in order to move forward. | 17:28 |
| dholbach | elfy, mhall119, czajkowski: ^ got any comments? | 17:29 |
| mhall119 | I know some of the items in the etherpad were added by someone other that the proposer | 17:29 |
| mhall119 | so if the people who proposed solutions can go through it and provide detailed work items for the things they proposed, that would help us | 17:30 |
| elfy | yep | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | and assign themselves to the ones they can do | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | unassigned work items don't get done | 17:30 |
| dholbach | I could send a mail to the list explaining this? | 17:30 |
| mhall119 | that might help, yeah | 17:31 |
| elfy | pleia2's point was about helping with blueprints - but they're pointless until the tasks have people willing to do anything | 17:31 |
| elfy | dholbach: yep - sounds useful | 17:31 |
| mhall119 | dholbach: just remind people that if they want a work item done, they either need to take it on themselves or find someone to assign it to who can/will do it | 17:31 |
| dholbach | ok... should I recommend that people add work items to the pad and people add their names next to the subject they're interested in? | 17:32 |
| mhall119 | yeah, they can be easily converted into a blueprint from there | 17:32 |
| elfy | and/or add their name to existing nameless ones | 17:32 |
| elfy | otherwise we're just going to end up with another long pad repeating things again | 17:33 |
| dholbach | sure | 17:33 |
| dholbach | sorry, that's what I meant | 17:33 |
| dholbach | ok, I'll send the mail after the meeting | 17:33 |
| dholbach | I'm not sure... is there anything concrete, we as the Community Council, could be doing in this meeting now? | 17:34 |
| dholbach | http://pad.ubuntu.com/LeadershipActions looks quite cleaned up right now | 17:34 |
| dholbach | ok, while waiting I just wrote the mail :) | 17:38 |
| dholbach | elfy, mhall119: anything else from you now? | 17:39 |
| dholbach | or shall we adjourn=? | 17:39 |
| mhall119 | not from me | 17:39 |
| dholbach | Ok... thanks a lot everyone for attending! | 17:40 |
| mhall119 | anything other topics people in the channel want to discuss with the CC? | 17:40 |
| dholbach | #topic Any other business | 17:40 |
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| mhall119 | seems not | 17:41 |
| dholbach | All right... thanks a lot everyone! | 17:41 |
| dholbach | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Dec 18 17:41:59 2014 UTC. | 17:42 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-12-18-17.03.moin.txt | 17:42 |
| mhall119 | thanks everyone for attending | 17:42 |
| mhall119 | thanks dholbach for running this meeting | 17:42 |
| dholbach | no worries :) | 17:42 |
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