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netlarHow well does touch work on the Nexus 4?00:26
netlarThere is no stable version yet?00:38
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nimmersatthey, is it possible to port Ubuntutouch onto a phone that only has a closedsourced chipset?02:39
RAOFAbsolutely, as long as you've got android support for it.02:47
RAOF(This is why we use the android driver stack, after all)02:47
nimmersattthanks, RAOF. so there is hope for a Fairphone port.02:48
nimmersattwe just need someone who ports it.02:48
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dholbachgood morning08:04
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mzanettihey, I'm trying to install dualboot on a nexus7 but I'm failing. It always says "No permission to reboot to recovery"09:51
mzanettithe dualboot.sh script seems to run without errors09:51
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Free Shipping Day! :-D10:00
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mpttedg, ok, how about this? <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound?action=diff&rev2=137&rev1=136>12:23
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kenvandinemandel, any luck?15:04
oSoMoNelopio, have you seen  my comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/webbrowser-app/autopilot-back-forward/+merge/244665 ?15:06
elopiooSoMoN: haven't seen them yet. I'll look at it soon.15:31
elopiooSoMoN: I will add the wait_for enabled inside the go_back and go_forward.15:33
elopioand the test we have as part of the sanity test actually needs to go back and forward, not just checking that the button is enabled.15:33
elopiois it ok for you to keep the tests actually clicking the buttons, or would you prefer me to add new tests for that?15:33
oSoMoNelopio, right, that’s fine, but the tests in the webbrowser_app test suite don’t test the same thing, at any rate they need to be renamed to reflect what they actually do15:34
oSoMoNelopio, but really I don’t see the point of changing what the tests do, I’d rather just keep them checking that the buttons are enabled, that should be enough15:35
elopio oSoMoN: not enough for the point of view of the sanity suite. The user story is that by clicking back or forward, the previous page is opened. At this level of testing we need to check user goals, not only the UI behaviour.15:37
oSoMoNelopio, fair enough, then the tests need to be renamed15:39
elopiooSoMoN: I'm on it.15:39
oSoMoNcheers15:39
mandelkenvandine, I think I found the issue, updating the branch and ensuring it works15:46
mandelkenvandine, but I wish we could punish whoever landed this and whoever (if someone did) reviewed this15:47
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mptjgdx, hi, could you answer my question in bug 1383368?16:36
ubot5bug 1383368 in Ubuntu UX "[settings/cellular] one single "connection type" section is not intuitive for multi SIM phones" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/138336816:36
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lotuspsychjeYESSS http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february18:03
lotuspsychjefinally some good news18:03
lotuspsychjetnx to all you devs!!! nice work guys18:04
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popey\o/18:08
k1l_nice one. congrats :)18:24
lotuspsychjelookin nice isnt it18:24
lotuspsychjeim gonna ask one to santa18:24
k1l_lotuspsychje: that announcement was kind of overenthusiastic in #ubuntu18:25
lotuspsychjek1l_: we waited so long for this18:25
k1l_lotuspsychje: yeah. we just try to keep #ubuntu clear of announcments because some others might want to use that as announcment channel for their news then :)18:26
lotuspsychjek1l_: well its kind of relevant news isnt it, but ill behave dont worry18:27
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lallenlowe123is there an active project for an IM client?18:41
lallenlowe123I might life to hack on it18:41
lallenlowe123like18:41
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mzanettishould dual boot currently work for the nexus 7? I can't get it to boot Ubuntu...20:36
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dobeymzanetti: you using the weird dual boot script thing, or multirom?21:03
dobeyand ugh, camera app is just crashing on my n521:03
mzanettidobey: using the dual boot script21:04
dobeymzanetti: ah, i'm not sure if it really works on anything currently. i don't think anyone has spent any real time on maintaining it recently21:09
mzanettidobey: should it work with multirom?21:10
dobeymzanetti: afaik, yes. i don't know if tassader has tested it on nexus 7 or not though21:11
dobeybut at least it has reasonable maintenance. it's what i tell anyone to use that wants to dual boot android and ubuntu21:11
nhainesThat's also what I tell people.21:15
jcbjoeanything new with 14.09 r11 rtm any bug fixes anything new i should know about any changelogs ?21:16
nhainesjcbjoe: changelogs are on the mailing list.21:17
jcbjoeoh21:17
nhainesBut the upower switchover mean it's not destroying your battery anymore on the N5 at least.21:17
jcbjoenhaines: do i have to be part of the mailing list to get the changelog ?21:17
nhainesjcbjoe: no, you can follow the list here: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/21:18
dobeynhaines: yeah, i was surprised when i picked up my phone a few minutes ago, and noticed it was only down to 65% after sitting here for over 6 hours21:19
jcbjoethanks21:19
nhainesjcbjoe: I looked for the r11 announcement but can't find it, sorry.21:20
dobeynhaines: now if only the location settings would get saved across reboots, and silent mode worked correctly, we'd be making real progress on n5 :P21:20
nhainesdobey: pfft, details.  :P21:20
nhainesI'd be happier if "photos" aren't just screenshots.  1920x1080 photos are lame.  -__-21:21
dobeyeh, it doesn't matter when they're all seriously overexposed anyway ;)21:22
nhainesThe new Android camera finally started supporting tap-to-take-photo during videos again and instead of full-res they're 1920x1080 and it's just as unconscionable there too.  ;)21:23
dobeyeh, android21:24
nhainesWhat really offends me is the Terminal app reboot, where it's clear that the developers never used the original.21:24
dobeyeh21:24
nhainesLiterally every "Wait, where did x go?" is answered with "That's an interesting feature idea.  We've never heard of that before."  Not impressed.21:26
dobeywell, thanks for reminding me that i need to shave before i leave the house :P21:27
jcbjoedobey: or nhaines do you know what the latest rtm is at right now ? i havent'been on ubuntu-touch since r11 .. sifiting thru the mailing list i got lost21:27
nhainesI don't know how but I'll accept thanks anyway!21:27
nhainesjcbjoe: it's r11.21:27
jcbjoeoh ok21:28
dobeywhat's really fun is turning your phone on silent mode for a movie, or comedy club, or whatever, turning silent mode off at the end, and then realizing 3 days later that oh, your phone is still actually in silent mode21:28
nhainesheh21:28
nhainesYeah, Android 5.0's 'priority mode' is super useful for that.21:29
dobeythe radio switching between wifi/3g has been a bit unreliable lately for me too21:30
nhainesThat's never worked well for me.21:31
dobeyi would really like working bluetooth though, and a solid answer on how developers can build apps that connect to specialty bluetooth devices that do some arbitrary protocol over a serial bluetooth connection21:31
dobeynfc would be nice too21:32
nhainesYeah, I have the sneaky suspicion that if I could ever get anything working with bluez (and I can't) I could contribute patches to get bluetooth working on the N5.  :(21:33
dobeycwayne: hey, you actually have a working meetup accounts plug-in? the one i made hangs after tapping the "log in" button, i think in my qml maybe :-/21:36
cwaynedobey: ya22:01
dobeycwayne: have the code somewhere i could peak at it?22:02
cwaynedobey: let me push it 1 sec22:02
dobeyam curious what you're doing different22:03
cwaynedobey: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cwayne18/+junk/meetup/view/head:/meetup.provider22:04
dobeyhuh22:05
cwaynehm?22:07
dobeyah, you're doing oauth1.0a there i guess22:08
dobeycwayne: does it set the displayname for the account to something useful, or does it just stay empty?22:09
cwaynedobey: its blank for now, i didnt take the time to do the qml-plugin yet22:12
cwaynei will though, i did it for all my other ones22:12
dobeycwayne: i have qml and it should work. but i was trying to use the oauth2 method22:13
dobeyand it hangs after i hit the authorize button. :-/22:13
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cwaynei've had a lot of trouble with various account-plugins22:14
cwayneespecially with oauth222:14
cwayneeveryone implemeted the 'standard' differently, and its a real pain in the ass22:14
dobeyhow so?22:14
cwaynei've seen some places that require you to pass redirect_url instead of redirect_uri, some places that require extra parameters to the authorization call, stuff like that22:15
dobeyat least the meetup implementation seems to be pretty much the same as github's according to the docs. so i just started with what i had for github to work from there22:15
dobeyah22:15
cwaynemeetup's was pretty good IIRC22:18
jcbjoedoes anyone here use 14.09 rtm as a daily driver and if so do you have any bugs glitches i should know about ? if so what do you do ? do you just reboot ?22:35
janimo`what is the easiest way to launch a qml binary app without qmlscene from the phone command line? Something that does the equivalent of --desktop-file-hint to allow the app to connect to Mir22:47
dobeyjcbjoe: yes, people are using it as such22:48
dobeyjanimo`: if it's from a click package, use ubuntu-app-launch i guess, and if you really need to run qmlscene from the shell, use --desktop_file_hint with an existing .desktop file22:49
janimo`dobey, not a click package, I am trying to avoid that for the moment if possible, also not a simple qml, but a binary running starting qml engine22:50
janimo`hence the 'equivalent of desktop-file-hint' :)22:50
janimo`dobey, so which is the most straightforward way to test a go-qml app, with the minimal ubuntu touch specific metadata files22:51
dobeyif it doesn't accept the --desktop-file-hint arg, then i don't know22:51
cwayne_janimo`, i suppose you could just create a new go-qml app from the sdk template, and just paste your go into the main.go there, then itll clickify it for you22:51
janimo`dobey, should anything linked against qml libs accept that flag? If so that would hopefully be enough22:52
janimo`althought I wonder if go-qml would do such parsing of flags22:52
dobeyi would guess maybe anything using QCoreApplication or whatever the gui variant of that is, should; but i don't really have any idea how go and qt interact on that level22:53
dobeyanyway, time to go. later22:54

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