=== SDCDev is now known as pistoff === pistoff is now known as pistdov_ === pistdov_ is now known as Nomster [05:02] *yawn* [05:02] nlsthzn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell nlsthzn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/" 7 hours, 24 minutes and 49 seconds ago [05:08] Maaz: tell superfly looks good... but I was also thinking that perhaps we should just use the url to point to our wiki main page and put effort in maintaining it rather (so everyone can keep it updated and maintained)? [05:08] nlsthzn: Got it, I'll tell superfly on freenode [05:21] More almal [05:26] morning nlsthzn ThatGraemeGuy theblazehen inetpro and others too [05:27] oh and Private_User [05:27] morning [05:28] morning Kilos [05:57] Hi Kilos [05:59] nlsthzn: you still on kde? [05:59] yup [05:59] for now :p [05:59] oh are you at work? [05:59] stay onnit man [05:59] nope [05:59] home [05:59] use the virtual thing for messing with new things [06:00] its not the new things that get me to switch so much as the current thing messing up and me getting annoyed [06:00] I do play with virtualbox a lot [06:00] what release are you using? [06:01] mornings [06:01] wb ThatGraemeGuy wassup your connection [06:01] Wow.. Had windows on partition 1 and 2, wanted more Linux space, so I deleted the partitions, and created the Linux partition with the full size.. I rebooted, and windows still tried to boot! [06:02] lol [06:03] something in your grub remembered it [06:03] after sudo update-grub it will be gone [06:12] Kilos: nah, I used syslinux, but that didn't even display... [06:12] wow [06:12] Also, no more Linux, so no more sudo.. [06:13] At least until I get a live USB to restore my backup [06:13] i had one drive showed that as well but it was grub seeing it [06:13] It just booted straight, with no options? [06:14] ya then showed read error or no operating system or something stupid like that [06:15] thats when you install win first on a drive and grub uses the same mbr [06:16] there is a super grub iso you can get to boot from [06:16] then once into your linux you can sort the grub [06:18] or whatever it is you use [06:26] Ah [06:27] I now learnt that you don't have a backup until you can successfully restore.. :( [06:27] lol [06:28] Maaz: google super grub iso download [06:28] Kilos: That didn't go down very well. Burp. [06:28] eish [06:28] Kilos: my system is super broken, so it won't work [06:28] no man you just messed up the mbr i think [06:29] the linux os will still be there [06:30] Ya, but I deleted the partitions too. Without knowing where the Linux part starts, you can't get it back [06:30] oh wait [06:30] MBR is still fine [06:30] you can boot from a linux cd or stick and run testdisk [06:31] ya man but in the mbr it wants to see windows [06:31] first then linux [06:31] testdisk will find it all and when you tell it to write it will replace everything [06:31] Kilos: in the mbr it says to load syslinux, but it didn't find syslinux.. Think it jumped to start of 1st partition [06:32] lol [06:32] run testdisk [06:32] Don't have anything I NEED on there [06:32] Been wanting to switch to i3 [06:32] oh then just reinstall from scratch if you dont have anything there you need [06:33] Will just see if I can find backup [06:33] you need a pc-repair stick like i made\ [06:34] fuly operational 12.04 on a stick [06:35] I have arch on a disk here [06:36] if there is nothing you need why worry about a backup? [06:36] try boot from arch and the copy paste what you want to a stick [06:36] Takes hours to reinstall, and I have my skyrim save there.. And I forgot my Firefox sync passwors [06:37] And what I want is text files, so testdisk won't have a signature for it [06:37] o/ oh hi, morning [06:37] Hi nuvolari [06:37] hi nuvolari [06:38] Oh man, my .Xresources :( [06:38] testdisk foremost and scalpel can find everything [06:38] Kilos: they rely on using the signatures in files.. No signature for text [06:38] but testdisk can rewrite the partitions [06:39] Ya, I can try I guess... [06:40] So I managed to give fsck a srgfault... [06:40] Segfault* [06:41] fsck -f the drive [06:41] ive used that to get crashed external working again [06:41] i go take sheep out [06:42] It killed fsck! [06:43] phew i dunno what you okes do to you poor PCs I've been carrying the same homedir around for years now [06:47] ThatGraemeGuy: I wanted to remove windows, so I deleted all partition, and it happens that my backup disappeared.. [06:48] * theblazehen got it booting now.. [06:48] lol [06:48] it isn't a backup if it isn't on physically separate media [06:49] ThatGraemeGuy: it was! dd|nc to another host! [06:49] But when I ran ls on the host it wasn't there now :( [06:49] Time to do it again, and verify... [06:49] rule #2 it isn't a backup until you've verified that you can restore from it [06:50] Yeah, I get that now... [06:50] It always worked before though... [06:54] nlsthzn: I'm of two minds about that [06:54] superfly: By the way, nlsthzn on freenode told me "tell superfly looks good... but I was also thinking that perhaps we should just use the url to point to our wiki main page and put effort in maintaining it rather (so everyone can keep it updated and maintained)?" 1 hour, 45 minutes and 44 seconds ago [06:54] two minds, I can't even handle one >.< [07:01] lol [07:46] oh my, all the ibids are sick [07:46] Maaz: google ubuntu [07:46] Kilos: That didn't seem to agree with me [07:47] Maaz: google google [07:47] Kilos: I'm not feeling too well [07:47] theblazehen: you broke them? [07:48] the 2 on my channel also dont work [07:48] they lost google connection or some funny thing [07:49] oops sorry superfly good morning to you [07:49] hi Kilos [08:00] Kilos: mine didn't work, dunno about maaz [08:00] I need to TRIM my SSD.. Won't even max out 100mbit LAN :/ [08:00] the old ones were still working just now [08:01] Or maybe my dd options suck [08:02] Maaz: coffee on [08:02] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:03] that works but they cant use google [08:03] maybe google is blocking bots [08:04] Kilos: they dont like bots at the very least. But people work around that [08:04] ya but our bots have always worked because the dont go cause maracas [08:05] they just look up things [08:06] Ya, but Google must have changed something [08:06] There is no nice api for bots to use [08:06] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [08:07] Maaz: ty [08:07] You are welcome Kilos [08:19] good morning [08:19] Maaz: coffee on [08:19] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [08:19] hi Kilos [08:19] hi charl [08:20] how are you doing [08:20] good ty and you [08:20] good, good [08:20] our bots are sick [08:20] not one of the 3 can google anymore [08:21] oh then there is probably a change in the google api [08:21] should be easy to solve [08:22] ERROR:scripts.ibid-plugin:Exception occured in GoogleAPISearch processor of google plugin. [08:22] dont just sit there, solve it [08:23] 3 bots cant break same time, google musta changed something [08:23] Coffee's ready for charl! [08:23] inetpro: check noddy [08:24] and morning to you [08:25] Maaz: thanks [08:25] charl: Sure [08:25] who's the maintainer of the ibid project? [08:25] is the code somewhere on github? [08:26] charl: i think it has possibly something to do with the api call [08:26] running a test now to see what happens [08:26] yeah must be [08:27] the weed is the maintainer but no time atm [08:27] ah, the cannabis? [08:28] maybe he can throw a pointer for us [08:28] tumbleweed: [08:28] 'http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/services/search/web', params, headers [08:28] think maybe that has changed [08:29] {"responseData": null, "responseDetails": "invalid version", "responseStatus": 400} [08:29] i cant get that open [08:29] ya [08:29] so what have they done the swines [08:30] swines they are not, they have possibly changed their api call for the search, and the bot now fails because google rejects it [08:31] sjoe, how do we fix it [08:31] Kilos: ah, I remember them turning off an API recently [08:31] anyways, when i get ime i will see if i can fix mine, but atm work is priority. [08:31] there is your answer [08:31] hi tumbleweed [08:31] ty tumbleweed and georgl [08:32] maybe point us to what needs doing will be good tumbleweed [08:34] Kilos: http://searchengineland.com/google-web-search-api-longer-available-202188 [08:35] 17 GB of a 16 GB partition transfered... [08:36] ai! [08:36] ah you winning theblazehen [08:36] I think so... [08:36] Did backup again now [08:36] haha you also got more than what should be there [08:37] Think it was the 1000 or 1024 MB in a gig thing [08:37] * theblazehen boots live [08:38] now the bots must see the customer search api [08:39] and thats limited to 100 queries a day [08:39] Kilos: ;) ya sure? [08:40] what did you use theblazehen [08:41] Kilos: for bot? [08:41] no to fix your drive [08:43] Ah, testdisk found partition, so I then made backup again [08:43] Now I deleted everything again [08:43] And now I'm restoring backup [08:43] 2.6 MB/s to my SSD :( [08:44] Think its bad block size I'm using [08:44] Poor ssd [08:44] Must give it a fstrim [08:45] I like the look of new gnome... [08:47] testdisk rocks hey [08:47] normally very slow [08:48] Not on SSD :) [08:48] ah [08:49] linux has wonderful tools [08:49] That up to 600MB/s read :) [08:49] Yeah, <3 linux [08:49] testdisk photorec foremost and scalpel recover everythingh there [08:49] they fast them ssd things [08:50] but too expensive [08:50] Ya, I got 64 GB for like R900 [08:50] But they getting cheaper [08:50] eish i can get a 2TB drive for that [08:51] * theblazehen is wanting the 16 TB PCIe SSD.. [08:51] Kilos: oh, where?! [08:51] * theblazehen gets 1TB for R750 [08:51] ill get you the link [08:51] * theblazehen is waiting for those shingled drives for a big RAID [08:51] Ty [08:51] i gave it to you before man [08:51] Ah, that one [08:51] my supplier\ [08:51] Ty [08:51] \ [08:52] Have it in my mail [08:52] um [08:52] do you still have it? [08:52] Ya [08:52] Just gotta Ctrl f [08:52] Or, actually grep [08:52] i paid 600 and some for 1TB [08:53] Nice. Which brand? [08:53] 2 TB R969 [08:53] seagate [08:53] Ah... [08:54] * theblazehen is a western digital guy [08:54] drives are drives [08:54] i have as many scrap wd's as seagates [08:55] Ya, but Seagate failed more often [08:55] I worry when my raid is degraded [08:56] * theblazehen must learn BSD so I can use ZFS... [08:57] Maaz: yahoo google [08:57] Kilos: Sorry... [08:57] hehe [08:58] i spose yahoo also needs an api thing [08:58] Lol [08:58] * theblazehen loves Zelda music.. [09:08] nlsthzn: is the membership approval group the same ones that did the re-verification? [09:14] I believe in this case yes... there are different ways to get it and depending on how you apply a different council decides [09:15] for me it was the forum council [09:40] hi magespawn [09:48] hi Kilos [09:48] magespawn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell magespawn http://ubuntuza.snyman.capetown/" 12 hours, 11 minutes and 26 seconds ago [09:53] magespawn: I'm thinking of using Nikola [09:54] http://getnikola.com [09:57] this is for the ubuntu-za webiste, superfly ? [09:57] magespawn: ya [10:01] are you looking at have more than one person looking after it? [10:04] magespawn: yes [10:05] you know the systems best i think, so what ever has the least learning curve [10:07] i can help, and like i said i like learning but other might not [10:07] lol [10:09] i can help. ill check spelling hehe [10:12] magespawn: I think using Nikola would be easiest. It's a static site generator. So it makes .html files, but uses a templating system, and you write your content in a simple format called reStructuredText (it's similar to Markdown) [10:20] i see superfly,can you edit the .html afterwards or should you always go through Nikola? [10:24] the mark up text used has to learnt but it seems relatively straight forward [10:58] man, i think iam in over my head here a bit with mikrotik [11:12] thats the wifi stuff right? [11:13] or wireless [11:13] you doing so well magespawn vasbyt man [11:14] talk to one of the wugs for help [11:26] i can vasbyt, but the office needs an internet connection [11:31] dot capetown - very cool [11:36] hi charl [11:37] i wonder how long before people start with the sex.capetown etc [11:39] hi magespawn [11:39] or capetown.sex [11:39] magespawn: always through nikola [11:57] superfly is that done locally, on your laptop and then uploaded to the site? [11:57] yes [11:57] so then Nikola would act a little like a editing program? [11:59] no, it's more like a script to build and then upload your site [11:59] you edit your site using a text editor (Kate supports reStructuredText syntax highlighting) [12:08] MS Word ftw! [12:17] that would then limit the people who could/would do the updates to those who how and those who can/want to learn [12:17] yes, so a few people would be able to do it [12:21] i see there are number of editors that support it [12:21] as in, it's only limited by who wants to learn [12:22] that i have found is one of most prevelent limiting factors in the world [12:28] magespawn: in this case, it's probably a good one. [12:32] ThatGraemeGuy: LaTeX FTW! [12:32] indeed, it will prevent a mess being made of the page [12:33] * Kilos looks around [12:33] hmm... [12:33] ya right channel [12:34] MS Word ftw! [12:34] sjoe [12:34] i have never really undertsood LaTex [12:34] i think there may have a been a touch of sarcasm there [12:34] lol [12:35] ya he likes teasing [12:35] what are you guys doing superfly magespawn making us a new site or what [12:36] Kilos: yes [12:36] is our old one broken? [12:36] and disused and too much for what we can currently handle [12:37] aha [12:43] would this be a group decision? [12:44] nope [12:44] the fly can do what the fly can do [12:45] and you can help too [12:45] magespawn: I'm open to suggestion, but this is a do-ocracy. [12:45] hehe [12:45] And so far no one has done anything :-P except me :-P [12:45] superfly: you the boss [12:46] if you make it easy like a wiki page i can help a bit [12:58] me reading the manual [12:58] superfly: is it python 2.6 and later or just 2.6? [12:59] Kilos: 2.6 or later, but I'm using Python 3.4 [12:59] ah cool. he didnt state that [13:08] oh he does further down [13:26] oh nikola is in our repos [13:34] magespawn: are you doing it? [13:58] sure [13:58] superfly your server? or was clug? [13:58] I've got something started in Nikola at home, gonna see if I can get a basic site up and running, and then I'll push it up to Launchpad. [13:59] magespawn: the clug server [13:59] do you install t5he stuffs then edit a site or make your own page thing [14:00] i see me battling with python and vim again sigh [14:00] the way i understand it, you intall Nikola on your pc, do the site there and upload it to the server [14:00] hmm... [14:01] doesnt sound right to me [14:01] surely one needs a site already there and then you add stuffs etc [14:01] you need a web server to upload the site to [14:02] that is what apache does [14:02] as in a host? [14:02] like the wiki [14:03] the host is the person/company the provides the webserver either as a physical or virtual machine [14:03] like anyone can go edit the wiki if they are members [14:04] that is a function built into the wiki and by the people who look after it [14:04] oh arent websites the same [14:04] pretty much a wiki is a type of website [14:06] oh [14:07] as in both will run on a webserver, which is both the software and hardware [14:08] so that server there is the same kind of thing i nstalled on other pc here? [14:08] isnt a server a server [14:09] basically yes, probably much better hardware [14:09] of course ya [14:09] and stays online full time [14:09] and the software server may be spread across several physical machines [14:10] sjoe [14:10] i gotta go check this wireless link from the other side bbl [14:10] good luck [14:11] thanks cheers [14:24] * nuvolari yawns [14:24] I wanna go gome [14:33] hehe [14:33] lang dag weer seun? [14:33] vroer gaan slaap in die aand man [14:55] good afternoon [15:25] afternoon inetpro [17:28] inetpro: why havent you applied for ubuntu membership? [17:28] ohi gremble wb [17:28] where you been [17:29] Congratulations on getting verified again [17:29] Hey Kilos [17:29] ty [17:29] Out and about [17:29] oh we got a serious job for you [17:29] no rest for the wicked [17:29] Oh? [17:30] As long as it is not webdev, I could try and manage [17:30] google killed our bots with an api thing they stopped [17:30] ibid? [17:30] ya [17:30] lemme scroll back [17:31] http://searchengineland.com/google-web-search-api-longer-available-202188 [17:31] so since this morning the bots cant google anymore [17:32] Maaz: google google.com [17:32] Kilos: I'm not feeling too well [17:32] hehe [17:33] Ok, I will have a look [17:33] ty [17:34] I won't be able to fix it if the API is completely dead though [17:34] Duckduckgo has a similar api though [17:34] So all is not lost [17:34] yay [17:35] i looked today at alternative search engines but dunno what they can all do [17:35] does that duck thing work with google [17:35] Kilos: tried duck duck go? [17:35] Sort of [17:35] Ah, yes. Kinda [17:36] My RAID:( [17:36] i think google is getting to powerful [17:36] It is a metasearch engine. It searches through various searchengines to bring you the appopriate results [17:36] Gone real slow, can't reboot now :/ [17:36] But without the tracking capabilities that google/yahoo/bing etc has [17:36] oh my theblazehen what did you do [17:37] i read something about bing a while back, someone dropped them or something [17:37] Kilos: not my fault.. Think HDD is dying [17:37] ouch [17:38] most likely near the beginning [17:38] you can use disk utility to check it or gparted [17:38] I got an I/O error on this hdd yesterday [17:38] the gparted was is quite cool [17:38] It seems to be working fine today [17:38] But I think that this laptop is dying [17:38] :/ [17:39] run badblocks [17:39] lemme get you the command [17:39] Kilos: what's that do? [17:39] sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda1 > bad-blocks-result [17:39] that will tell you if there are any [17:40] i have a further command that lets fsck remember them and add new ones [17:40] Ah [17:41] Does it destroy data? [17:41] nope read only [17:41] Hmm.. Kk [17:41] After executing the above command it will generate the file bad-blocks-result in the current directory where you executed this command. Now, you can pass this file to the fsck command to record these bad blocks. [17:41] sudo fsck -t ext4 -l bad-blocks-result /dev/sda1 [17:43] Kilos: that link you linked said the API retired in August already [17:43] nope it turned off this morning [17:43] "The service will cease operations on September 29th, 2014." [17:44] the weed gave me that link so i could know why ibids were sick [17:46]