[00:05] <danbeam> k1l_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smartmontools/+bug/1403681
[00:05] <danbeam> haha
[00:08] <magneto> Salut les gens :)
[00:14]  * osmanlicilegi_ is away: I'm busy
[00:14] <k1l_> osmanlicilegi_: please no away scripts in here. thanks
[00:15] <acer> hi
[00:15] <walia6> Hi, Im speaking to you on my windows 8 laptop. to my side i have my windows 7 laptop with a 8 gb flash drive that i booted by pressing f12 at one startup, and selected run ubuntu without installing.
[00:15] <walia6> i ran the program on there that says install ubuntu
[00:16] <walia6> how do i install it to my flash drive
[00:16] <walia6> it gives me the option to overwrite windows 7
[00:16] <walia6> which i dont want to do
[00:16] <k1l_> choose manual install or "other" and choose that flash drive in there
[00:17] <walia6> i pressed 'something else' and it took me to some partition thing
[00:17] <k1l_> yep. there you can make the partitions on your flashdrive
[00:17] <walia6> how
[00:18] <walia6> i dont have expirence with partitions
[00:19] <EriC^^> walia6: how many flash drives do you have?
[00:20] <walia6> in my comp, i have a 8gb sandisk flash drive, and a usb mouse plugged in
[00:20] <walia6> to be specific, sandisk cruzer glide
[00:20] <squinty> walia6:  suggest you back up your win7 install before doing anything else.  for the inexperienced it is easy to mistakenly over write previous install
[00:20] <walia6> i dont have an extra hard drive laying around
[00:20] <squinty> walia6:  you will need two flash
[00:20] <EriC^^> walia6: you can't install ubuntu to a usb mouse unfortunately
[00:21] <walia6> im not trying to?
[00:21] <walia6> why would i need two flash drives?
[00:21] <EriC^^> walia6: i was asking how many flash drives you have?
[00:21] <walia6> i have a single flash drive plugged in
[00:21] <EriC^^> walia6: cause one is booted right now and it has lots of debs and other stuff
[00:21] <k1l_> walia6: are you running the install-ubuntu from that flash drive?
[00:21] <walia6> yeah
[00:21] <EriC^^> you need another one to install ubuntu to
[00:21] <k1l_> walia6: that is not going to work.
[00:22] <walia6> why not?
[00:22] <squinty> or make a livedvd and then install to the flash
[00:22] <k1l_> you will need one flashdrive or cd/dvd and then the flash drive you want to install to
[00:22] <walia6> ah ok...
[00:22] <walia6> let me look for another flash drive
[00:22] <walia6> brb
[00:23] <squinty> walia6:  might want to see if you have bigger than 8 gig.... it will install to that size though
[00:24] <walia6> 32gb enough?
[00:24] <EriC^^> walia6: yeah
[00:24] <squinty> yep
[00:25] <netlar> Is there irc channel for ubuntu touch?
[00:25] <EriC^^> !touch
[00:25] <netlar> thanks
[00:26] <icloudy> trying to install ubuntu on fakeraid/biosraid.  I remember use to use dmraid but the instruction is current only to ubuntu 10.10.  Is the support built into kernel now?
[00:26] <squinty> walia6:  if you are familiar with unhooking your hard drive, suggest you do so and that will minimize any potential inadvertent installs to the wrong device
[00:26] <walia6> unhooking?
[00:26] <walia6> please explain
[00:27] <squinty> walia6:  goind inside the  computer and physically disconnecting the power and data lines from the harddrive
[00:27] <EriC^^> i think it's a laptop
[00:27] <walia6> it is
[00:27] <squinty> walia6:  well either way you can still disconnect the drive if you desire too
[00:28] <aerholt1> hi! I think my laptops (Dell latitude e7240) harddrive just died. I'm not so sure but it hangs shortly after booting to lightdm. Managed to get a root shell from grub and save my .emacs.d folder and my .ssh dir so I'm kind of safe now. How do I check if it's my harddrive failing? I did a S.M.A.R.T. quickcheck recently due to some wierd behavior and it was ok.
[00:29] <squinty> walia6:  and if you are not comfortable with doing that, then see my first suggestion about backing up your windows 7 install before attempting anything else (if your windows data is important to you that is)
[00:29] <Ben64> aerholt1: smart data is not to be relied upon, IO errors coming up in logs is a pretty good sign of bad stuff
[00:29] <EriC^^> aerholt1: sudo apt-get smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a
[00:30] <aerholt1> Ben64: Yea, I read that somewhere. What logs should I check? syslog? dmesg?
[00:30] <EriC^^> *apt-get install smartmontools
[00:31] <aerholt1> EriC^^: I did that a while ago and it was fine, but I think the system might sack if I try to install from the grub shell
[00:31] <aerholt1> *anything else*
[00:31] <EriC^^> you can't install from the grub shell, you'd have to boot a live usb and run it
[00:31] <aerholt1> thank you anyway thoug
[00:32] <walia6> sorry if im not responsive.
[00:32] <walia6> im currently clearing up one of my flash drives
[00:32] <aerholt1> yea i figured :) Gotta buy a usb-key, aint at home atm.
[00:33] <walia6> funny how my 8gb flash drive, is 4 times bigger than my 32 gb one
[00:34] <Ben64> aerholt1: both of those would work
[00:38] <superspring> hey, does anyone know of a way to generate a self-signed ssl certificate on ubuntu which is valid for all domains, rather than being locked down to a single one?
[00:40] <ungguy> walia6: you mean physical size
[00:42] <aerholt1> Ben64: is there a nice way to view the gzipped logs without having to decompress them on the filesystem? Like I said, I'm in a root shell and have the fs mounted as readonly
[00:42] <Ben64> aerholt1: you're in the grub prompt?
[00:43] <aerholt1> yup
[00:43] <Ben64> probably not
[00:43] <Ben64> boot a live cd or usb
[00:44] <aerholt1> don't have either, am surfing from my phone
[00:44] <daftykins> lol.
[00:45] <aerholt1> can i use it as a usb for live-booting if i havn't rooted it? maybe wrong channel for asking, if so, sorry.
[00:45] <Ben64> try booting ubuntu in recovery mode
[00:45] <daftykins> you can't either way
[00:49] <icloudy> so any body?....
[00:49] <daftykins> anybody what
[00:50] <daftykins> icloudy: oh RAID, no i don't think it's built in, pass.
[00:50] <aerholt1> hmm there is a driveDroid app, but it needs root on the phone
[00:50] <daftykins> aerholt1: not even vaguely on topic i'm afraid
[00:50] <aerholt1> Ben64: I'll try the recovery mode, thanks
[00:50] <daftykins> (smartphone antics)
[00:51] <opt1> icloudy, You might be looking for mdadm
[00:51] <opt1> you can raid inside of linux using it
[00:51] <icloudy> lopt1, i have dual boot windows, that will not work right?
[00:52] <opt1> does windows access those drives?
[00:52] <opt1> if so maybe consider an external hard drive bay enclosure or nas that you can raid your drives on
[00:53] <opt1> I wouldn't raid on a built in mobo bios personally
[00:53] <opt1> buy a raid controller card if anything or use an enclosure
[00:53] <aerholt1> daftykins: I just want to find out what's wrong with my computer with the tools i have at my disposal. :/
[00:54] <daftykins> yeah that's nice, but we don't need to hear about the smartphone stuff :)
[00:54] <aerholt1> daftykins: oh, right. Sorry!
[00:56] <icloudy> opt1: yeah i know its not ideal, but i am doing it on an old PC with exisiting windows on the fake raid already...oh well i am reading the wiki looks like from 10.10 onward the installer automatically handles fake raid
[00:57] <cyberace> hey guys
[00:57] <cyberace> how do i get my friends list on a 2nd computer?
[00:57] <cyberace> using xchat
[00:58] <cyberace> hello
[01:03] <Trickster1> hi
[01:06] <warfaren> i'd like to set up a separate X session on my secondary monitor, i did so using nvidia-settings but it created DISPLAY:0.1 which isn't what i wanted
[01:07] <warfaren> i want them to be completely independent so that enabling/disabling X input devices will allow me to control the second display with another mouse/keyboard setup
[01:07] <warfaren> as if there were two computers
[01:10] <Bashing-om> !raid | icloudy
[01:13] <aerholt1> ok so I mounted a tmpfs and copied the logs
[01:26] <dri> oi
[01:26] <daftykins> !br
[01:33] <aerholt1> it seems like i can't find any I/O Error but is it possible that they couldn't be written to the disk since it was (perhaps) already failing?
[01:33] <aerholt1> Errors*
[01:36] <daftykins> aerholt1: we could really do with a live session being booted with seeing "smartctl -a /dev/sda"
[01:36] <daftykins> smart 'tests' are rubbish
[01:39] <aerholt1> daftykins: ok, I'll try it as soon as i get my hands on a usb key. Thanks!
[01:43] <Orioa> anyone around that might be able to help me
[01:44] <daftykins> not until you ask a question
[01:44] <Orioa> ok
[01:45] <Orioa> i installed xubuntu today but forgot to turn my wifi on so know when i go to add wifi connection i add info but the save button is greyed out so i can not save it
[01:51] <geoffmcc> Orioa: so are you saying you installed while wifi was disabled or you just weren't connected?
[01:53] <daftykins> i don't really believe that makes much sense personally
[01:57] <geoffmcc> sounds like he is in the connection manager, hit add then wifi and is trying to add an accesspoint manually, so I am wondering if his wifi is even enabled since it must not be showing him a list of access points
[01:57] <daftykins> yeah must be a field missing
[01:59] <Orioa> it was disabled i have a switch to turn it on and off and it was off when i installed
[01:59] <Orioa> forgot to turn it on
[01:59] <daftykins> oh that's not good
[01:59] <daftykins> so you probably don't even have support enabled for that wifi right now
[02:00] <daftykins> or does it search for networks fine?
[02:00] <Orioa> nope
[02:01] <daftykins> ok what wireless hardware is it?
[02:01] <daftykins> run "lspci" and look for network controllers
[02:02] <Orioa> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[02:02] <daftykins> Orioa: try "sudo modprobe iwlwifi"
[02:03] <Orioa> ok did
[02:04] <daftykins> do you have anything besides "lo" and "eth0" if you type "ip a" ?
[02:04] <Orioa> and wlan0
[02:04] <daftykins> \o/
[02:04] <daftykins> log out and back in, see if the wireless networks get seen now
[02:05] <Orioa> ok brb
[02:08] <Orioa> nope didn't help
[02:09] <daftykins> so left clicking any kind of network manager icon doesn't show up wireless networks?
[02:09] <Orioa> still can not hold up
[02:09] <daftykins> does right clicking it have a "enable wifi" option at all?
[02:09] <Orioa> ok its working
[02:10] <Orioa> tyvm
[02:10] <daftykins> \o/
[02:10] <daftykins> Orioa: that driver module might not auto load on boot right now, so you might need to do a full reboot and test it's still there
[02:10] <daftykins> *still working
[02:11] <Orioa> ok i can reboot again make sure it still working brb again
[02:13] <Orioa> ok it is still working thank you very much
[02:13] <Dastan> bro, when i used evolution as mail client for exchange server 2010 it is succeed when use at my company intranet but failed when use internet connection, how to fix it?
[02:13] <nomore> any chans about reseach chems or just regular dope on freenode? x)
[02:14] <[RvG]> hi, i have just one question...
[02:21] <d1g1talph3r3t> nick d1g1talph3r3t
[02:23] <daftykins> Dastan: this is not the street, you don't address people as 'bro'
[02:23] <daftykins> [RvG]: will you ask it then?
[02:26] <xbox720> i need help do any on you know how to install a exe file
[02:26] <Ben64> exe is for windows
[02:27] <d1g1talph3r3t> quit
[02:27] <d1g1talph3r3t> exit
[02:27] <xbox720> Ben64, so i cant
[02:27] <Demon_Jester> hey guys I am using grep to output pattern from a file, and I use -r to keep checking for any other patterns and grep keeps outputting duplicates I tried to pipe it to | sort but that does not work, howereve... grep xxx file; sort does work but wont end my script.
[02:28] <Ben64> xbox720: explain more. some things can work using "wine"
[02:28] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: try #bash
[02:28] <Demon_Jester> no thanks, dafty, and you know why.
[02:28] <Demon_Jester> awk and bash have nothing but rude ass people in there.
[02:29] <Demon_Jester> they don't help they are just rude.
[02:29] <xbox720> Ben64, can install horizon
[02:29] <daftykins> i don't really care, go to a relevant channel
[02:29] <Demon_Jester> dafty I had problems with you before how about you just shut up and stay out of it.
[02:30] <Ben64> xbox720: you've been here before about this and have always received the same answers. stop asking. it is legally questionable, not appropriate for #ubuntu, probably not appropriate for Freenode
[02:30] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: sounds like a plan. really though, you won't likely get anyone here for that kind of query.
[02:30] <Ben64> Demon_Jester: maybe you're the one being rude?
[02:31] <Demon_Jester> ben64 sorry you werent here couple of days ago when dafty and bunch of other people were just being rude when I asked for help in the awk channel.
[02:31] <daftykins> huh? i'm not in any of those other channels
[02:31] <Demon_Jester> I asked for help and got nothing but negative comments.
[02:31] <xbox720> Ben64, i just want to install nothing more nothing less.
[02:31] <Ben64> Demon_Jester: your current question is much more appropriate for #bash though
[02:31] <daftykins> xbox720: go ask #winehq
[02:32] <Ben64> xbox720: yes, and i'll tell you the same thing again. it is legally questionable, not appropriate for #ubuntu, probably not appropriate for Freenode
[02:32] <Demon_Jester> daftykins you joined awk channel after I did, and you other people were just rude and called be ignorant and flawed
[02:32] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: no you definitely have that wrong, i have never been in an awk channel
[02:33] <daftykins> 100% i do not join such channels
[02:33] <Ben64> either way, this doesn't belong in #ubuntu
[02:34] <Demon_Jester> ben64 I may go to grep channel if I go to bash asking about grep problem they would definitely start poking at me until I go over the edge. like in 300
[02:34] <xbox720> ben64 the way you word that. its questionable. and not illegal. and probably not who are you to determine what im doing with the program
[02:34] <daftykins> xbox720: we've told you what to do and where to go, you haven't even described what this 'Horizon' is... so please go and check out #winehq or somewhere else thanks.
[02:35] <t43tg3hh4> what is horizon
[02:35] <Ben64> xbox720: i really don't care, that program is used for modifying and hacking proprietary software and systems, its absolutely not appropriate for #ubuntu, and probably not acceptable for Freenode. stop asking about it here!!
[02:36] <t43tg3hh4> so what software do you use to set your keyboard shortcut and hotkeys in lubuntu? thanks
[02:37] <xbox720> Ben64, who are you to determine this ? for one also im not doing anything that you are suggesting. i just want it installed. linux is open source..
[02:38] <daftykins> xbox720: you are wrong. stop talking about it or leave, please.
[02:38] <d1g1talph3r3t> -n happyfr0gg
[02:38] <Ben64> xbox720: it is not software for Ubuntu, therefore not on topic in #ubuntu ... very easy to understand
[02:38] <xbox720> daftykins, explain ? how?
[02:38] <xh> explain
[02:38] <daftykins> xbox720: irrelevant and off topic, ignoring you now.
[02:38] <xbox720> Ben64, is there a software that is equivalent?
[02:39] <d1g1talph3r3t> I am trying to change my default nick. I want to change it. I am using weechat.
[02:39] <Ben64> xbox720: probably not
[02:39] <Ben64> d1g1talph3r3t: /nick newnick         .... if you have more irc questions, please ask in #freenode
[02:39] <Stanley00> d1g1talph3r3t: it's not #ubuntu relate too, but you can try /nick your_new_nick
[02:39] <xbox720> Ben64, so this operating system is not as good or equivalent to windows ?
[02:40] <happyfr0gg> Ben64, thanks
[02:40] <Ben64> xbox720: go away
[02:40] <happyfr0gg> Stanley00, thanks.
[02:40] <xbox720> i told your momma that she still here
[02:41] <happyfr0gg> Will my new nick stay the same?
[02:41] <xbox720> Ben64,  just because you dont know shut your face hole..
[02:41] <Ben64> cool cool cool
[02:46] <jcool> trying to load github.com gives ssl error in chrome and in firefox. rest https site works good.
[02:47] <jcool> Error code: ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH
[02:47] <t43tg3hh4> xbox720, maybe try a virtualmachine like virtualbox or VMware Fusion 4  if you can get it
[02:48] <denon_> hey  :)
[02:49] <t43tg3hh4> sup
[02:49] <daftykins> got a question?
[02:49] <t43tg3hh4> yeah, so what software do you use to set your keyboard shortcut and hotkeys in lubuntu? thanks
[02:49] <daftykins> no not you
[02:53] <Orioa> its in settings manager
[02:53] <jcool> that error comes only in ubuntu
[02:53] <Orioa> keyboard
[02:54] <Trickster1> hello
[02:58] <happyfr0gg> how do I tell weechat to retain my new nick? Everytime I connect I have to chane it.
[02:58] <happyfr0gg> *change
[02:59] <daftykins> this isn't really an IRC client support channel, happyfr0gg
[02:59] <daftykins> look up some docs on it.
[02:59] <happyfr0gg> I am new to weechat. Sorry guys.
[02:59] <daftykins> i'd be new to it too, but i'd find a channel for it maybe, not the OS i use it on :P
[03:04] <t43tg3hh4> happyfr0gg, try #weechat
[03:07] <rypervenche> happyfr0gg: Check your private messages please.
[03:07] <Trickster1> someone know how to use proxy on kvirc ?
[03:13] <NBhosting> anyone alive here?
[03:14] <dyarbrough> yup
[03:14] <dyarbrough> Some times
[03:15] <Trickster1> dyarbrough: do you know how to use proxy on kvirc ?
[03:15] <dyarbrough> I don't.
[03:16] <NBhosting> [ 3064.580405] iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:25:90:8f:3a:52:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
[03:16] <Ben64> Trickster1: check the documentation
[03:16] <NBhosting> what does that rule mean
[03:16] <NBhosting> shows up in my dmesg after setingup my firewal
[03:17] <Trickster1> Ben64: i already know where to configure the proxy in kvirc but that's don't work ...
[03:17] <rypervenche> NBhosting: Looks as though you're blocking multicast traffic.
[03:17] <Ben64> Trickster1: then ask in #kvirc
[03:18] <dyarbrough> here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=use+Proxy+on+kvirc
[03:18] <dyarbrough> XD
[03:18] <dyarbrough> I wish I could help more.... :(
[03:18] <daftykins> dyarbrough: although highly amusing, we frown upon 'helping' people that way in here :P
[03:18] <dyarbrough> okay. I won't do that then.
[03:18] <daftykins> ty
[03:19] <dyarbrough> In any case. setting up a proxy in kvirc should be similar to setting up a proxy in other programs right?
[03:19] <dyarbrough> What would be the difference?
[03:19] <NBhosting> current setup http://paste.ubuntu.com/9556636/
[03:19] <NBhosting> what am i missing there
[03:20] <Ben64> NBhosting: why do you have it set up like that
[03:20] <Trickster1> dyarbrough: yep it is same but when i do a whois it change nothing ^^
[03:20] <NBhosting> is it bad?
[03:21] <geoffmcc> exit
[03:21] <Ben64> NBhosting: depends on your answer to my question
[03:21] <NBhosting> euh i found this example and used it.
[03:21] <NBhosting> but what do u mean?
[03:21] <NBhosting> is this a old way todo it?
[03:22] <Ben64> why would you use iptables rules you found?
[03:22] <dyarbrough> hmm.....I won't be able to help you very much unfortunately.... :(
[03:22] <dyarbrough> I won't pretend I can.
[03:22] <NBhosting> i changed it to my needs ofc :D
[03:22] <NBhosting> but what is so bad about it?
[03:22] <Ben64> NBhosting: what are your needs?
[03:22] <NBhosting> allowing traffic to 80/443 block all others
[03:23] <NBhosting> its a webserver with nginx
[03:23] <Ben64> well if thats what you want, then its fine
[03:23] <NBhosting> but it seems to block multicast atm
[03:23] <teward> NBhosting: those rules look fine if that's what you want, but why the wider range ACCEPT rules for those specific IPs?
[03:23] <Ben64> yeah because ... "<NBhosting> allowing traffic to 80/443 block all others"
[03:23] <rypervenche> NBhosting: Can you provide us the output of "sudo iptables -nvL" please? (in a pastebin)
[03:23] <NBhosting> sure
[03:24] <Ben64> NBhosting: if you want it to block all others, and its blocking all others, whats the problem
[03:24] <wlxmhls> Is it enough to specify 512MB ram to ubuntu 12.04 ? I feel the installation is very slow.
[03:25] <teward> wlxmhls: Desktop, that's kinda low probably
[03:25] <Trickster1> i b
[03:25] <Ben64> thats not a nice quit message
[03:25] <NBhosting> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9556647/
[03:25] <wlxmhls> teward: is server edition ok?
[03:25] <NBhosting> i was just wondering what it means what its blocking
[03:25] <wlxmhls> teward: no desktop
[03:26] <teward> wlxmhls: that should be sufficient - install will probably be slow, depending on the methods you're using to install
[03:26] <teward> (and what you selected at tasksel)
[03:26] <rypervenche> NBhosting: It's blocking multicast packets. If you want to be using multicast, then you'll need to allow them in your firewall rules
[03:26] <Ben64> NBhosting: you probably don't need a firewall at all
[03:27] <NBhosting> huh?
[03:27] <NBhosting> wont my server be wide open then
[03:27] <wlxmhls> teward: in text mode installation, slow enough. I cost about 3 hours to setup 12.04
[03:27] <Ben64> NBhosting: nope
[03:28] <Ben64> NBhosting: unless you have some unauthenticated telnet service running or something
[03:28] <rypervenche> NBhosting: Only on ports that have a service listening on them, but you're going to be opening them anyways.
[03:28] <NBhosting> ah k
[03:29] <NBhosting> i tought it is good practice to firewall it
[03:29] <Ben64> kind of pointless unless there is an actual reason
[03:29] <NBhosting> k
[03:30] <rypervenche> NBhosting: -A INPUT -m pkttype --pkt-type multicast -j ACCEPT
[03:30] <rypervenche> NBhosting: If you want to allow multicast packets though without removing your firewall.
[03:31] <NBhosting> i gues i can leave it right, cant harm my setup
[03:31] <NBhosting> but good points that its not doing much as firewall
[03:31] <rypervenche> NBhosting: Check my private message as well.
[03:32] <Trickster1> lol freenode don't like proxy ^^
[03:32] <Trickster1> [04:30:43] [rajaniemi.freenode.net][465] Trickster1 :You are banned from this server- You have a host listed in the DroneBL. For more information, visit frontend1.dronebl.org/lookup_branded.do?ip=*********   Please contact proxyscan@freenode.net with questions. (2014/12/18 03.30)
[03:33] <daftykins> Trickster1: this is totally off topic, take it elsewhere please.
[03:33] <daftykins> e.g. #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:33] <Trickster1> true sorry
[03:33] <Trickster1> just to say that the kvirc configuration works
[03:34] <Trickster1> oh anyone use midori here ?
[03:38] <BlueProtoman> How do I initiate the upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu?  (No, not just waiting for some software update then click "Upgrade to 14.10")
[03:39] <xangua> BlueProtoman: if you are using 14.04 you first need to open Software Centre, edit menu, sourcesm updates tab and enable normal releases
[03:39] <xangua> "notify for new releases"
[03:43] <BlueProtoman> xangua: Yeah, it's enabled.  Now what?
[03:44] <xangua> now just run update manager
[03:44] <BlueProtoman> I see no such tool...
[03:47] <BlueProtoman> xangua: So I run update-manager on the command line...and it tells me no new updates are available!?  But I'm only on 14.04!
[03:47] <squinty> BlueProtoman:  in Unity search for Software Updater
[03:48] <Ben64> BlueProtoman: do you really need 14.10?
[03:48] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade #this should work
[03:49] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Okay, now what?  That's it, only a few compiz packages?
[03:49] <daftykins> i think you guys were cross purposes
[03:49] <Ben64> BlueProtoman: 14.10 has almost no new features compared to 14.04, and only 15% of the support length
[03:49] <daftykins> the idea behind update manager was to probably use the prompt to upgrade to 14.10
[03:50] <daftykins> personally i think you moving up from 14.04 is a mistake
[03:51] <Apachez> where can I online find out which intel driver ubuntu 14.10 provides for a NUC D54250WYK?
[03:52] <daftykins> Apachez: before owning one? why?
[03:52] <Apachez> I own it
[03:52] <Ben64> Apachez: thats a mini pc kit... there aren't drivers for whole computers
[03:52] <Apachez> but wanna know before I install ubuntu onit
[03:52] <daftykins> Apachez: soooo why not just boot a live session?
[03:52] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: I don't care what you say, I want to upgrade,'
[03:52] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: ok, your funeral. no need to take that tone though
[03:52] <Apachez> because looking at https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads intel only supports 14.04 but not 14.10 for some odd reason
[03:52] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, maybe run updates again?
[03:53] <Balsaq> apachez just make sure the cat5 is plugged in during the installation
[03:53] <Apachez> Balsaq: not what I asked for
[03:53] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: Already did, 3 times
[03:53] <Ben64> Apachez: you probably don't want to install drivers that way
[03:53] <teward> is there a way to configure an apt source based on the location I'm in, such that if I am on one network it's one IP and if i'm on a different network (i.e. not at home) it's a different IP/hostname for the same source?
[03:53] <russmuss> Does anyone know a place where I can get a free number to receieve a text?
[03:53] <Apachez> Ben64: so which driver version does ubuntu 14.10 provide for NUC D5 ?
[03:53] <Apachez> regarding graphics
[03:53] <Ben64> Apachez: boot a livecd and find out
[03:53] <daftykins> ^+1
[03:54] <teward> !ot | russmuss
[03:54] <Apachez> so there is no github or so that will give me the answer?
[03:54] <daftykins> russmuss: not even VAGUELY ubuntu related. jeez.
[03:54] <Apachez> that is so I can visit it through a webbrowser
[03:54] <furiae> hello, where do i go to get help
[03:55] <daftykins> Apachez: if you were going to install it, you'd have to make up media and boot it anyway. so why not just do it.
[03:55] <Ben64> furiae: for what
[03:55] <furiae> i need a program to play a blu-ray disk in ubuntu 14.10
[03:55] <furiae> its a movie
[03:56] <bazhang> furiae, mplayer
[03:56] <daftykins> furiae: that's only experimental, so can't really help there. look into makemkv though, but it'll be on you i'm afraid
[03:56] <Ben64> furiae: you can check here, i haven't played blu rays in my computer though (no bd drive) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[03:57] <furiae> thank you
[03:58] <furiae> how do i install the mplayer?
[03:59] <OerHeks> furiae, use softwarecenter?
[04:00] <furiae> it didnt come up in there
[04:01] <bazhang> gnome-mplayer <---- furiae
[04:01] <furiae> well i found it on the website, now to figure out how to install a ta.xz file
[04:01] <daftykins> furiae: no.
[04:01] <bazhang> furiae, install from repos
[04:01] <OerHeks> !info mplayer2
[04:01] <OerHeks> sure you looked ?
[04:03] <furiae> sorry
[04:03] <furiae> im abit stupid.. thank you
[04:05] <DarkAceZ> I might have manually edited some config files, and now whenever the system tries to gvfs-open something, it enters some sort of loop, hogging an entire core
[04:05] <DarkAceZ> until the file it's trying to open is moved/deleted
[04:05] <daftykins> edit them back? :)
[04:05] <DarkAceZ> well, that's a problem
[04:05] <DarkAceZ> I edited a lot of files
[04:06] <DarkAceZ> and I'm having no luck finding which ones belong to that program
[04:06] <daftykins> but when you edit configs, you save the originals as a backup, right?
[04:06] <furiae> :( i dont know how to make m player open my blueray
[04:06] <DarkAceZ> is there a way to reinstall a package and have it delete the config files as well?
[04:06] <hunter_> guys my sakura terminal wont allow me to click on urls
[04:06] <hunter_> and i cant find anything about this online
[04:06] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: yes, purging it
[04:07] <DarkAceZ> Chuck_Norris: won't it want to remove the packages that depend on it, then, though?
[04:07] <DarkAceZ> how can I avoid it removing other packages?
[04:07] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: sudo apt-get remove --purge program
[04:08] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: what are you trying to remove ?
[04:08] <DarkAceZ> gvfs-open
[04:08] <DarkAceZ> of course, it will only be temporarily
[04:09] <Chuck_Norris> oh! no, don't remove that
[04:09] <DarkAceZ> I want to install it right away again
[04:09] <DarkAceZ> I just want to erase all the config files it has
[04:09] <DarkAceZ> because I messed something up
[04:09] <furiae> m player only has dvd options
[04:09] <DarkAceZ> at least, that's what I think it is
[04:10] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: no no, gotta be a bug in the package, i got some bug in gnome-shell 14.10 too -.- for example when searching in the shell
[04:10] <OerHeks> furiae, read that hdvideo/blueray url again, you need to do some steps, but carefull, those AAC keys are old, not all blueray willl play
[04:10] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[04:11] <daftykins> pretty sure the makemkv method is the best idea
[04:11] <OerHeks> some more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238603
[04:11] <daftykins> i'm going to be trying it soon once my christmas present from daftykins arrives.
[04:11] <OerHeks> daftykins, +1 yes
[04:11] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: sudo apt-get install curl
[04:12] <DarkAceZ> what is that thing for?
[04:12] <Chuck_Norris> it is fot a looooot of thing, but we'll be doing a paste with it, if you want
[04:12] <Chuck_Norris> for*
[04:14] <furiae> :( this sucks
[04:14] <DarkAceZ> !pastebinit
[04:15] <furiae> i know nothing about linux so im not going to get anywhere, thanks anyway
[04:15] <daftykins> furiae: yeah might be easier to buy a player for Windows
[04:15] <furiae> yeha, windows is always better
[04:15] <daftykins> er, no
[04:16] <Chuck_Norris> xD i wanted to do it at Chuck Norris style :P but... when gvfs is consuming 100% cpu just kill it and it will re-run as normal, i'm sure -.-
[04:17] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: ----^
[04:17] <DarkAceZ> well, that's not possible, because it's in some sort of loop
[04:17] <DarkAceZ> it creates tons of processes that last a split-second
[04:18] <DarkAceZ> repeatedly, until the file is moved/deleted
[04:20] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: well, i suggest not to remove that package just try a workaround but, sry i can imagine a workaround for that situation
[04:20] <Chuck_Norris> i can't*
[04:21] <DarkAceZ> I don't want to remove it, I want to remove its config files
[04:21] <DarkAceZ> so it reinstalls them
[04:23] <somsip> DarkAceZ: apt-get install --reinstall any good for you?
[04:23] <DarkAceZ> I tried that, but no
[04:23] <DarkAceZ> it doesn't touch config files
[04:23] <somsip> DarkAceZ: if they are amended, no it won't
[04:24] <Ben64> DarkAceZ: see if debsums shows you anything changed, if not, then... you are an incline plane wrapped around a tapered cylinder'd
[04:26] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: btw, i don't have "gvfs-open" in my system, what is your Desktop Enviroment ?
[04:26] <DarkAceZ> mate
[04:26] <D-coy> m4v ö/
[04:29] <poozy> 15.04 alpha is being released tomorrow?
[04:30] <OerHeks> poozy, better ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:30] <bazhang> poozy, #ubuntu+1 for that please
[04:30] <poozy> hmm
[04:31] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: you could take note of what are the other packages that will be removed, then remove-purge and reinstall them
[04:33] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: but first will be a good idea to check what is going to be removed -.-  sudo apt-get install curl
[04:33] <daftykins> biggest lesson for future reference is "cp config config.orig" :>
[04:33] <daftykins> (before editing)
[04:33] <DarkAceZ> I don't know which file is having the problem
[04:33] <DarkAceZ> so that wouldn't help
[04:33] <Ben64> DarkAceZ: see if debsums shows you anything changed, if not, then... you are an incline plane wrapped around a tapered cylinder'd
[04:34] <Chuck_Norris> cp config{,.orig}
[04:34] <DarkAceZ> I don't know how curl is going to help me lol
[04:34] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: curl is just for makein a paste at Chuck Norris style
[04:34] <DarkAceZ> Ben64: I see 900001 lines
[04:34] <DarkAceZ> what am I looking for?
[04:35] <Ben64> sounds like an exaggeration
[04:36] <DarkAceZ> 199794 lines
[04:37] <Ben64> 199794 files changed?
[04:37] <DarkAceZ> no, it's showing all the files
[04:38] <Ben64> debsums --help
[04:38] <Ben64> there are two switches you should be using for a easy to read result
[04:40] <happyfr0gg> Hello.
[04:42] <vinc>  cls
[04:45] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: and if remove excecute permission to gvfs-open ? just to see whats happen
[04:47] <DarkAceZ> ah, okay
[04:47] <DarkAceZ> I'm still getting the loop
[04:47] <DarkAceZ> so I guess it isn't gvfs-open :P
[04:48] <Chuck_Norris> then what ever it is, iotop
[04:48] <Ben64> DarkAceZ: did you get the list of changed files
[04:48] <DarkAceZ> Ben64: I did, but nothing was related to it
[04:48] <Chuck_Norris> sudo apt-get install curl iotop  :P
[04:48] <Ben64> DarkAceZ: how can you tell?
[04:49] <DarkAceZ> because I didn't edit any config files out of ~
[04:49] <DarkAceZ> as far as I know
[04:49] <Ben64> make a new user and try to recreate the problem then
[04:49] <sara> I got ausb disk from a friend ubuntu 14.10. it is able to boot on a newer laptop (asus) with uefi bios. however, an older desktop (non-uefi) is not able to boot into the usb.. boot menu > usb> the usb drive boots to windows.. what could be wrong? can anyone help?
[04:49] <DarkAceZ> all right, brb
[04:49] <Chuck_Norris> DarkAceZ: or maybe you can see the program creating those files just with top/htop
[04:50] <DarkAceZ> how would I be able to tell?
[04:50] <Chuck_Norris> see at the top process, or with iotop at the top process
[04:51] <DarkAceZ> they're nameless, no way to tell who they're associated with
[04:51] <DarkAceZ> and they disappear before I can grab some info on them
[04:51] <Chuck_Norris> and where are they created ? folder
[04:52] <Chuck_Norris> lsof +d <folder>
[04:53] <sara>  I got ausb disk from a friend ubuntu 14.10. it is able to boot on a newer laptop (asus) with uefi bios. however, an older desktop (non-uefi) is not able to boot into the usb.. boot menu > usb> the usb drive boots to windows.. what could be wrong? can anyone help? Doesn't the new ubuntu support non-uefi boot?
[04:54] <DarkAceZ> Chuck_Norris: I'm not sure what you mean
[04:55] <DarkAceZ> but top shows Xorg taking up the CPU when it happens
[04:55] <DarkAceZ> mate-system-monitor shows nameless processes
[04:56] <jeffrey_f> sara: How did you create the disk?
[04:56] <LarsN> Is anyone who has first hand experience with the Ubuntu Orange Box handy?
[04:56] <sara> i dint, but i believe he did it from windows
[04:59] <sara> does it matter? he would have done it with the same ubuntu desktop iso anyway.. if I were to wipe and rebuild do I have to make special arrangements for older bioses?
[05:01] <jeffrey_f> You are likely right, it doesn't matter for the image, but it matters to the older laptop which doesn't support some features.  Still looking.
[05:03] <jeffrey_f> sara: does it start to boot then freeze or does it not even get that far?
[05:03] <sara> no, it goes straight to windows as if it dint find bootable media
[05:04] <sara> i also have a windows 8 bootable usb installer. which seems to work fine, even on the same usb port.
[05:04] <jeffrey_f> sara: this same thumb drive successfully boots another machine??
[05:04] <sara> yes
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:07] <jeffrey_f> sara: <--Prefix my user name as shown with yours, it will highlight for me so I can see it easier.
[05:08] <sara> jeffrey_f: like this? cool
[05:10] <jeffrey_f> sara: YEP!!  Ok, this link has two other links in the answer.  It may work for you too  http://askubuntu.com/questions/471696/trying-to-install-ubuntu-14-04-on-non-uefi-computer
[05:11] <sara> jeffrey_f: ok, thank you..
[05:11] <sara> jeffrey_f: will give it a shot
[05:15] <jeffrey_f> sara: As it mentions, I would download the latest ISO to your computer along with Unetbootin.......format that thumbdrive and lay a new image down on the USB.  I rarely have had an issue and I am using a 9 yr old computer.
[05:15] <sara> jeffrey_f: hopefully it works for me just as well
[05:15] <dipchi_> Hi there! I wanted to install Ubuntu Natty 11.04 on Beagle bone board (BBB) - ARMHF
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> sara: whats the default Os on your computer?
[05:16] <dipchi_> Can someone guide me a bit? Thanks
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: natty is EOL mate
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: choose a version from topic to install
[05:16] <jeffrey_f> sara: I did the same with an even older computer and it still worked.
[05:17] <dipchi_> Yes. But I did some customization in application which is dependent on Natty only. I will upgrade kernel to latest etc later
[05:17] <dipchi_> Please help me to port natty on BBB to get start
[05:17] <sara> lotuspsychje: the desktop: it is winows vista business, laptop - chatting on it - windows 8.1
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: sorry we cant support you for natty
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !arm | dipchi_
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> sara: and wich computer you want ubuntu on?
[05:19] <dipchi_> Thanks a lot. Let me look into wiki and I will get back here. In between if you share any hint for me for porting natty on BBB board then it will be nice
[05:20] <sara> sara: desktop, it has the problem.. older bios
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: be aware that natty might hold security flaws, not safe for daily use
[05:20] <sara> sorry :) put my own name there
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> sara: what kind of problem
[05:21] <Ben64> dipchi_: 11.04 is way unsupported, you're not going to have a good time with that
[05:21] <dipchi_> Ohh okey. Thanks! Let me look into how to upgrade to latest ubuntu then
[05:21] <dipchi_> Thanks again
[05:21] <sara> it wont boot the usb
[05:22] <Ben64> sara: will it boot any other usb? try making a new one?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> sara: you can create a cdrom with 'plop boot manager' and force your computer to boot your usb
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> sara: some older bios have indeed problems booting usb
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> sara: can you tell us what brand this desktop is?
[05:24] <sara> ben64 : it can boot a windows install usb on the same port
[05:24] <dipchi_> While I will work on upgrading from natty to  latest, can someone help me how to get rid of kernel messages : [122429.743026] UDP: bad checksum. From 85.250.158.222:61921 to 10.91.1.2:1222 ulen 86 [122433.034663] UDP: bad checksum. From 85.250.158.222:61921 to 10.91.1.2:1222 ulen
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: its reccomended you install 14.04 clean, not upgrade from natty
[05:24] <dipchi_> this comes a lot many times and I have no idea what's wrong with this
[05:24] <Ben64> dipchi_: nope, 11.04 is not supported, and ubuntu on ARM isn't supported in this channel
[05:25] <sara> lotuspsychje: hp dc7900 small form factor
[05:25] <dipchi_> Sure. I will install 14.04 clean but can help with above UDP error until then
[05:25] <Ben64> nope, any error on 11.04 won't matter on a new install
[05:26] <dipchi_> On production server I get this message a lot in DMESG
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[05:26] <Ben64> G2APARTNER: don't spam here
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !ops | G2APARTNER
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/arm
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> sara: try that plop boot manager, it will help you boot ubuntu usb
[05:27] <dipchi_> Friends I know 11.04 is not supported here. But I am asking a help or hint from your expert knowledge. I will work to move to latest version surely. But until then I need somehelp on this
[05:28] <Ben64> dipchi_: you don't seem to understand the concept of "not supported here"
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: we cant help you on a version that is a danger to use
[05:29] <sara> lotuspsychje: ok, will do.. late here.. thanks for your help too, ben64, if nothing i will create a disk again.. i just wasnt sure if the new usb iso will work with older bioses
[05:29] <Ben64> sara: it should work with anything that can boot usb
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> dipchi_: even if you manage to install 11.04 you wont get updates, have issue with apt-get etc...
[05:30] <sara> lotuspsychje: dont know if this helps, i removed hdd from the boot order, and left just the usb. it says non-system disk or disk error replace and stke any key when ready, and when i do that usb blinks and goes off..
[05:30] <sara> might be a problem with the usb itself
[05:30] <sara> i will regen one tomorrow.. thanks all.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> sara: try to create your usb with universal usb installer
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sara: its on ubuntu.com
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sara: then set bios to boot usb first, hd second etc
[05:31] <dipchi_> Okey I see. Thanks Ben64 and Lotuspsychje for your valuable time.
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> sara: if bios doesnt wanna boot usb, try plop boot manager
[05:34] <sara> lotuspsychje http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows this one?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> sara: yes :p
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> sara: try 14.04 LTS to put on your usb
[05:35] <sara> lotuspsychje: ok.. thanks
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> sara: if bios cant boot your stick normally or with plop boot manager, there might be something wrong with stick itself
[05:41] <ablest> hi
[05:47] <Guest9722> Hey all, this any kind of busy?
[05:48] <Prezident> huh
[05:48] <Guest9722> I'm looking for a channel that's full of discussion. trying to get back into IRC wondering if anyone has some suggestions
[05:49] <Prezident> Aha..
[05:49] <Prezident> This is an help chan, if you wanna chit-chat about * then join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:49] <Prezident> without . at end
[05:50] <Guest9722> you are epic sir.ma'am
[05:50] <Guest9722> thank yew
[05:51] <Endoresu> hello
[05:52] <Endoresu> ive been converted
[05:52] <Prezident> Tell us we all wanna help you. :)
[05:52] <Endoresu> i'm new to ubuntu and i'm just facinated with how well it works
[05:52] <Endoresu> the boot up is nothing...
[05:52] <lolzo> Whats up Endoresu?
[05:53] <lolzo> Hum, you mean it wont boot?
[05:53] <Endoresu> no i mean it's so quick
[05:53] <Endoresu> compaired to windows
[05:53] <lolzo> Ah, you probably got SSD.
[05:53] <lolzo> Yeah.
[05:53] <Endoresu> my question is how do i access the taskmanager?
[05:53] <Endoresu> is there one?
[05:53] <Guest9722> ps?
[05:53] <Guest9722> at least in the terminal
[05:54] <Endoresu> im not sure i understand
[05:54] <Prezident> Endoresu: do sudo apt-get install htop && htop
[05:55] <Prezident> Like it?
[05:55] <Endoresu> i like it
[05:56] <Prezident> great, you wont find better task manager
[05:57] <lolzo> You rock Prezident, helping so many people i am impressed, im gotta run now. Bye.
[05:59] <Endoresu> it feels weird using a DOS like equivalent so readily
[06:00] <LarsN> Endoresu: what's dos like?
[06:00] <Endoresu> eh its difficult to get the hang of like any text based command system
[06:02] <LarsN> Endoresu: if you stick with it, you'll find you will start to miss it when you're forced to use gui installers.
[06:02] <Endoresu> true
[06:02]  * LarsN just build a bunch of oracle access manager nodes.  all the installers were GUI.  
[06:02] <Endoresu> hmm
[06:02] <LarsN> which is a Pain when all your servers are headless, 2000 miles away.
[06:02] <Endoresu> ubuntu seems to be using the same about of RAM as windows was
[06:02] <LarsN> x forwarding over ssh.
[06:03] <LarsN> seems ugly to have to install x on servesr just for the software.
[06:03] <Endoresu> as far as light gaming wine should be good
[06:04] <LarsN> Endoresu: I play TF2 native onlinux :)
[06:15] <naveen> Hi , I have a serious issue with ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[06:15] <naveen> [#ubuntu]
[06:17] <baptiste_> Hi all, I have a problem installing a neworl HP 3050 j610 printer on my bbox (frech box), anyone can help?
[06:17] <naveen> My system is not loading ubuntu , as i power on the system it displays "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key "
[06:19] <LarsN> naveen: remove the CD, and or USB tokens from the computer?
[06:19] <LarsN> naveen: assuming Ubuntu is already installed.
[06:19] <naveen> Hi , I have a serious issue with ubuntu 14.04 LTS.My system is not loading ubuntu , as i power on the system it displays "reboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in the selected boot device and press a key "
[06:19] <Guest74973> hello
 Nothing is connected to the CPU.
[06:21] <LarsN> naveen: then if you're trying to install Ubuntu, you'll need to make boot media (either optical, or USB) and select the right key combination to choos that boot media (many times it's F12)
[06:23] <naveen> LarsN, I have important data im my HardDisk . And I will faceproblem I have loose the data and the hardrive is not partitioned
[06:26] <naveen> Larsn Check your private message
[06:42] <delt> Hello
[06:43] <delt> how do i get a lubuntu livecd to identify itself to the DHCP server as "laptop" and not "lubuntu"?
[06:43] <delt> i changed the host name and then reconnected, still says its name is "lubuntu"
[06:44] <delt> i need to change this for kerberos authentication.
[06:51] <delt> in *buntu, where do you determine how a host IDENTIFIES itself to the dhcp server? That's what i want to know. The /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf file isn't being much help :/
[06:52] <hateball> delt: did you restart networking after changing nmae?
[06:53] <delt> hateball: yeah, disconnected and reconnected to the wifi network.
[06:53] <hateball> delt: first hit on google is this http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[06:53] <hateball> delt: but perhaps you have already tried that
[06:56] <hateball> delt: it's also possible to set using network-manager (at least on KDE Plasma)
[06:56] <OerHeks> delt, did you change hostname in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts ?
[06:57] <OerHeks> after that, sudo service hostname restart
[06:57] <hateball> OerHeks: By default dhclient doesnt send that anyway, far as I can tell
[06:57] <hateball> oh, hmmm it does ;f
[06:58] <hateball> weird
[06:58] <OerHeks> oke, thank you for confirmation hateball
[06:59] <hateball> it should be noted I am on 14.04, but this wasnt always on by default was it?
[06:59] <OerHeks> at least 2 years or more ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[07:00] <delt> anyway, ... i'll take care of this later - have to go now. thanks for the help guys
[07:00] <hateball> OerHeks: yea the hostnamestuff, but dhclient actually sending it to the dhcp server :)
[07:24] <rodolfo> ciao
[07:24] <rodolfo> where ar u?
[07:25] <Ober> ciao means "I am your slave"
[07:28] <deadfredalso> does anyone actually use this place for chat?
[07:29] <OerHeks> deadfredalso, no, for ubuntu support only
[07:30] <OerHeks> for chit chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <deadfredalso> so you have to message someone specifically for questions? Kinda confused, thought there might be conversations going on that I could learn from.
[07:32] <OerHeks> Just state your problem and someone might answer
[07:34] <leonic> hello
[07:34] <hateball> !ask | deadfredalso
[07:35] <leonic> u have ububtu live 14 and need to change the bright
[07:36] <leonic> xback ligth does not work
[07:37] <deadfredalso> No problems as such, just new to linux and thought a chat channel might be a good place to learn some interesting  things...
[07:42] <samthewildone> is there a hot key to switch between channels  with xchat ?
[07:43] <theadmin> samthewildone: You can define one in Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts.
[07:44] <theadmin> I can't remember the default.
[07:45] <ablest> hi
[07:45] <EriC^^> samthewildone: alt+1,2,3..
[07:46] <ablest> how do i change my device name
[07:46] <theadmin> That works. I set Ctrl-Tab to be "Next tab" so that I can flap through them like I flap through windows with alt-tab.
[07:46] <theadmin> ablest: echo "new-name" | sudo tee /etc/hostname
[07:47] <theadmin> ablest: Then reboot.
[07:47] <ablest> ty
[07:47] <EriC^^> theadmin: no need to change /etc/hosts ?
[07:47] <theadmin> EriC^^: I think Ubuntu updates it automatically, but to be entirely honest I'm not sure I'm thinking of the right distro.
[07:48] <EriC^^> hehe
[07:48] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Just a general computer question, I think I already know the answer
[07:48] <OerHeks> both /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[07:49] <theadmin> ablest: Right, okay, then also do "sudo nano /etc/hosts" and change the hostname there.
[07:49] <theadmin> Hit Ctrl-O to save the hamster and Ctrl-X to exit.
[07:49] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> A dual core 1.8 with 5 gs ddr2, would be better than a 3.08 single core hyperthreading with 3 gs ddr2, right? I mean if you were choosing whether to upgrade?
[07:49] <OerHeks> after that, sudo service hostname restart
[07:50] <OerHeks> ThaSwapMeetPimp, single core? do they still make them ?
[07:50] <deadfredalso> would say yes pimp
[07:51] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> ok i thought so and its not whether they make them its whether i have one DerHeks
[07:51] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> lol
[07:51] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> which I do
[07:51] <theadmin> Sure they do, I dunno about for desktop PCs or laptops, but on things like Raspberry Pi or phones...
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Just was never sure what the difference between the physical and logical cores were
[07:52] <deadfredalso> hyperthreading was ok in its time but not as effective as more  lanes
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Thats the info I needed deadfred!
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Thanks
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> lol
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> sorry bout the exclaim
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> ater
[07:52] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> later
[07:53] <nwe> hello, I have setup apt-mirror and it?s working fine.. but I got this when I running apt-get update http://pastebin.com/gbQnSpbh
[07:54] <OerHeks> apt.example.com is not a valid adress for updates
[07:56] <deadfredalso> just because I'm new.... does linux ever use something like that?
[07:58] <ablest> hi
[07:59] <ablest> now it says my device name then echo then device name again
[08:00] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:00] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:00] <ablest> thats what it says in terminal
[08:00] <EriC^^> it's not echoing it
[08:00] <ablest> its echoing
[08:01] <ablest> i wanted just change my device name not echo
[08:01] <EriC^^> i think you added HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC as your hostname
[08:01] <ablest> yes
[08:01] <EriC^^> ablest: type cat /etc/hostname
[08:01] <ablest> ok
[08:02] <ablest> says now echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:02] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:02] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:02] <ablest> echo before and after
[08:02] <EriC^^> ablest: type sudo nano /etc/hostname and set it
[08:03] <auronandace> !hostname
[08:03] <ablest> replace hostname with desire name?
[08:03] <EriC^^> ablest: just keep the hostname you want in the file
[08:07] <basheba> hey what are you guys using for hp all in one printer/scanner on 14.10 please
[08:08] <Tsarkon> Is anyone here well versed in getting wifi cards to work? I'm new to ubuntu and have a fairly terrible time so far.
[08:08] <ablest> how do i stop echo?
[08:08] <Tsarkon> At the moment it's showing no wireless extensions in iwconfig
[08:09] <ablest> showing ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:09] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ in terminal
[08:10] <Stanley00> ablest: First, please post output of command "hostname" here.
[08:10] <ablest> i dont know
[08:11] <ablest> i wanted to change my device name now it says it twice
[08:11] <Stanley00> ablest: type "hostname", enter, and paste the output here, as simple as that.
[08:11] <ablest> ok
[08:11] <ablest> HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:11] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:11] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:11] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:12] <Stanley00> ablest: than, just run "hostname HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC"
[08:12] <ablest> how?
[08:12] <ablest> im new
[08:13] <Stanley00> ablest: type that in terminal too, follow by enter key :3
[08:13] <ablest> ok
[08:14] <ablest> hostname HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC: command not found
[08:14] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:14] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:14] <Stanley00> ablest: without the " please :3
[08:15] <ablest> ok lol
[08:15] <ablest> hostname: you must be root to change the host name
[08:15] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:15] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ hostname HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:15] <ablest> do sudo?
[08:16] <Stanley00> ablest: ok, you need sudo now :3
[08:17] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:17] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:17] <ablest> still the echo
[08:17] <ikonia> it will echo what you tell it to
[08:17] <ikonia> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC will print HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:17] <ikonia> thats expected
[08:18] <ablest> how do i stop it
[08:18] <ikonia> stop what ?
[08:18] <Griz64> i did an upgrade from the previous LTS to the current LTS, using the graphical update (possibly muon) but after rebooting, the wife tells me; "Failed to add/activate connection  (32) insufficient privileges"  Okay, I went to a console, set the essid/ket and associate but now, how do i update the ip?  dhclient wlan0  just hang at the prompt and nothing happens. any suggestions on how to get an ip from the wap? so i might get the O/S squared away?
[08:18] <ikonia> you're typing "echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC" - it will always echo "HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC"
[08:19] <Griz64> s/wife/wifi
[08:19] <ablest> im not typing echo
[08:19] <Stanley00> ikonia: he has "echo aaaa" in his hostname, now he want to remove it :3
[08:19] <ikonia> 08:17 < ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:19] <leeyaa> hello
[08:19] <ablest> i typed it once and it keeps showing it
[08:19] <ikonia> ablest: please show me the output of the command "uname -a"
[08:19] <leeyaa> is it possible to force dist-upgrade not to restart any services during upgrade
[08:19] <ikonia> leeyaa: no
[08:20] <leeyaa> ikonia: i am usually asked if i want services to be restarted but does it actually do what it says ; p
[08:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: you will never be asked if services want to be restarted
[08:20] <ablest> Linux HP-Pavilion-g6-PC 3.13.0-43-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 8 19:35:06 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:20] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC
[08:20] <ablest> echo HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$
[08:20] <ikonia> leeyaa: it will replace packags, and if that requires a restart of the service - it will restart them
[08:21] <ikonia> ablest: ok so PS1 is messed up, not your hostname
[08:21] <ikonia> ablest: close the window and re-open the window
[08:21] <ablest> ok
[08:21] <leeyaa> ikonia: are you 100% sure about that and can it be delayed until sever gets rebooted ?
[08:21] <ikonia> leeyaa: certain
[08:21] <ablest> ok it works now
[08:21] <ablest> ablest@HP-Pavilion-g6-PC:~$
[08:21] <ablest> ty
[08:22] <leeyaa> i need to upgrade from 12.04, already upgraded a few other servers but this one has different services
[08:22] <ablest> :)
[08:22] <leeyaa> so not sure how to approach it except backup first
[08:22] <ikonia> leeyaa: do it when you can afford downtime - as you will have downtime
[08:22] <leeyaa> ikonia: i didnt have for xen servers
[08:22] <ikonia> leeyaa: upgrade from 12.04 to what version ?
[08:23] <leeyaa> ikonia: 14.04 LTS
[08:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: then you are incorrect
[08:23] <leeyaa> well no vm crashed and no service got interrupted in any wya
[08:23] <ikonia> leeyaa: a.) dist-upgrade will not upgrade your distro to 14.04 b.) it is impossible to be running a 12.04 -> 14.04 upgrade without a reboot, so you are mistaken
[08:23] <leeyaa> ikonia: yes there was a reboot, but no service got interrupted during the actual upgrade
[08:24] <ikonia> leeyaa: I think you need to check that.
[08:24] <ikonia> leeyaa: you will find certain things will have to have  been stopped for the upgrade to run
[08:24] <leeyaa> i guess xen works in a different way
[08:24] <ikonia> xen works in exactly the same wy
[08:24] <ikonia> way
[08:24] <ikonia> I'm not sure why you think xen is a factor
[08:25] <leeyaa> because no vm got interrupted
[08:25] <leeyaa> until the reboot
[08:25] <ikonia> right, a vm is not a service
[08:25] <ikonia> the hypervisor is running as part of the kernel
[08:25] <ikonia> and that won't happen until the reboot
[08:25] <leeyaa> oh i see
[08:25] <leeyaa> ok i understand
[08:25] <leeyaa> that explains a lot
[08:25] <Griz64> ikonia, how can i tell wlan0 to get a new ip, after i've manually associated it to the wap, via iw commands?
[08:26] <ikonia> Griz64: you should be using network manager in my opinion
[08:26] <leeyaa> ikonia:  so services will get restarted and there is nothing i can do about tht
[08:26] <ikonia> Griz64: but dhclient will call for an ip
[08:26] <leeyaa> 's/tht/that/'
[08:26] <ikonia> leeyaa: if it needs to restart them to apply the update, it will restart them
[08:27] <Griz64> ikonia, the nm, is it via a wm/de? because none will start/run, from gdm. that's why i'm at console level.
[08:27] <ikonia> Griz64: it is part of the de yes
[08:27] <ikonia> Griz64: if that is the problem, I'd address that before messing with networking
[08:27] <Griz64> ikonia, that's out then.  'dhclient wlan0'  just hangs.
[08:28] <ikonia> Griz64: probably because you've not associated it correctly
[08:28] <ikonia> so you'll find it's sitting there waiting for a response
[08:28] <ikonia> it will never get
[08:28] <Griz64> ikonia, need the network for the tools/part/packages i need to correct the X issue. hence why wifi is so urgent.
[08:28] <ikonia> Griz64: why do you need network to correct an X issue
[08:29] <Tsarkon> Would anyone here be able to help troubleshoot my wireless card?
[08:31] <Griz64> ikonia, the last three times i've run this update/upgrade this has been an issue. i reinstalled kde-meta, ob, bb, fb and set kdm as the boot manager and all's well in the world. i can't tell you why, because the issue was a non-issue once if had found the work-around. though, on this one, the wifi comes into play.
[08:32] <ikonia> Griz64: that doesn't make any sense to me
[08:32] <ikonia> Griz64: I advise you to work through the X issues with someone who understands how to troubleshoot it it more so if this has happened to you 3 times
[08:35] <Griz64> this bytes. i can't even wgetpaste log files. <expletive>
[08:35] <leeyaa> does apt store upgrade packages anywhere else except /var/cache/apt ?
[08:35] <leeyaa> i have just 200mb on /
[08:35] <ikonia> leeyaa: exaclty the same as a normal package update
[08:35] <leeyaa> ikonia: so /var/cache
[08:35] <ikonia> thats the norm,
[08:35] <leeyaa> ok thanks
[08:35] <ikonia> although I thought it was /var/apt/cache from memory
[08:36] <ikonia> but I don't have an ubuntu box infront of me to confirm
[08:36] <Ben64> /var/cache/apt
[08:36] <ikonia> thanks Ben64
[08:38] <InteliBlentav> guys can ya help me, trying to use my tor as proxy and it worked all fine since this morning altho the  root@g0t-UX302LG:/home/g0t# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
[08:38] <InteliBlentav> Acquire::socks::proxy "socks://127.0.0.1:9050/";
[08:38] <InteliBlentav>     says it uses but only google chrome uses the IP of tor, now i've curled ipchicken.com and my ip is not faked anyone knows why or how to help ?
[08:40] <ikonia> ivan``: thats only configured apt to use the proxy
[08:40] <ikonia> oops
[08:51] <Inteliblentav> guys ?
[08:51] <Inteliblentav> please
[09:05] <narmer> ss
[09:07] <notsimar> morning
[09:08] <vocx> morning
[09:13] <NT__> ys, I need a bit of a hand installing Ubuntu with Win 8.1
[09:13] <NT__> Umm, I've shrunk my Windows partition, so now I have 318 GB of unallocated space.
[09:14] <NT__> should I format that partition to NTFS in Windows and install Ubuntu in that, or should I format it to ext4 in Ubuntu and then install?
[09:14] <vocx> NT__, second option.
[09:14] <theadmin> NT__: You should format it to ext4. Ubuntu cannot be installed on non-UNIX filesystems.
[09:14] <Seveas> NT__: you shouldn't format it but simply let the Ubuntu installer take care of it.
[09:15] <NT__> theadmin: Okay, so partition in Ubuntu and then install?
[09:15] <NT__> Seveas: Umm, the option to dual boot isn't showing up.
[09:15] <knight_10> hi, I would like to see the last time I inserted the password in the gdm lock screen, is it possible?
[09:15] <NT__> Because Ubuntu isn't recognizing Windows.
[09:15] <jatt> you can install ubuntu on a vm
[09:15] <Seveas> NT__: ooh, be very careful then.
[09:15] <Ben64> NT__: what do you see in the partitioner
[09:15] <ararob> knight_10:what do you mean?
[09:16] <NT__> Ben64: I don't have it in front of me at the moment.
[09:16] <NT__> Should I?
[09:16] <vocx> NT__, when you install Ubuntu, it will take the unallocated space and make the necessary ext4 partition. It will ignore Windows, so it will not touch it. I believe once it is installed you would be able to dual boot.
[09:16] <ararob> knight_10: the last password you inputed ?
[09:16] <NT__> vocx: Oh I thought I'd have to run boot repair to fix it.
[09:16] <Ben64> NT__: would help to see whats going on
[09:16] <knight_10> ararob no, only the date of the last password I did input today
[09:17] <NT__> Ben64: Yeah, I quit the installer and I'm back on Windows.
[09:17] <vocx> NT__, may be. Ideally, the Ubuntu bootloader will install itself, and with that you will be able to boot Windows, Ubuntu, and other systems if you have them.
[09:17] <NT__> Ben64: How do you take screenshots from the LiveCD?
[09:17] <ObrienDave> print screen key
[09:17] <Ben64> NT__: print screen button, probably
[09:18] <NT__> Okay, and then what's the Paint equivalent called?
[09:18] <Ben64> well, print screen usually saves the picture too
[09:19] <NT__> Ben64: Perfect.
[09:19] <NT__> Then I'll fire up the LiveCD and get back to you guys.
[09:20] <ararob> knight_10: unless you have some keylogger running somewhere, i doubt it's possible. Linux tracks password change timestamps though...
[09:26] <knight_10> ararob, I'm not interested in finding my password, I remember it, I only would like to know when I unlocked the screen (gnome)
[09:28] <ararob> knight_10: sounds like an awesome reason to start coding up a program that does just that.
[09:29] <knight_10> ararob, :) probably I will do it
[09:29] <NT__> Ben64 vocx: Okay, I've rebooted onto the LiveCD.
[09:29] <ararob> shouldn't be too hard, since you just need to interface with gdm
[09:31] <NT__> It's asked me if I wanted to unmount a partition.
[09:31] <NT__> To which I replied no.
[09:32] <tekkbuzz> delimiters
[09:32] <NT__>  /sda
[09:32] <tekkbuzz> oops, wrong buffer.
[09:34] <Ben64> NT__: what?
[09:36] <NT__> Ben64: http://imgur.com/am3HsMb
[09:36] <NT__> It's not recognizing the fact that I have windows installed.
[09:37] <NT__> Ben64: I'll go ahead with "Something Else?"
[09:37] <Ben64> NT__: ok, it should bring up a partitioner, whats in there
[09:38] <Ben64> NT__: and what do you mean it asked about unmounting, it shouldn't do that
[09:38] <vocx> NT__, probably in the next step it show you the partitions and surely you will see the bunch of space that Windows is taking. So, just leave that partition alone.
[09:38] <NT__> Ben64: Well, I had the windows partition open when I was browsing through one of my files.
[09:38] <asimov> .
[09:38] <NT__> I said no.
[09:39] <basheba> test
[09:39] <asimov>  
[09:39] <NT__> vocx Ben64: http://imgur.com/KeMxoJc
[09:39] <niko> /14/22
[09:40] <NT__> That's the unallocated space I want to turn into a Linux partition.
[09:40] <basheba> .
[09:40] <vocx> NT__, don't browse the files of the other partitions. The good thing about the live CD is that it can have access to the entire disk without writing anything to it. If you browse the Windows partition it will mount it. So, it's better to be unmounted.
[09:40] <Ben64> NT__: looks pretty normal there
[09:40] <NT__> vocx: Umm, unfortunately already mounted Windows partition. Should I unmount it?
[09:41] <Ben64> might want to restart without mounting anything
[09:41] <vocx> NT__, yes, you can do it. Better that way.
[09:41] <NT__> vocx Ben64: Okay, will restart and get back.
[09:41] <cvmostert> join #ubuntu
[09:41] <vocx> NT__, according to your image it would like to install the boot loader in /sda, so it should be okay.
[09:42] <NT__> vocx: Will that override the Windows bootloader?
[09:42] <vocx> NT__, Yes, but it's okay.
[09:42] <NT__> vocx: I'm worried because it's not recognizing Windows' presence, which means that it might just override and I won't be able to load Windows.
[09:43] <NT__> vocx: ie. it's not letting me install alongside Windows.
[09:44] <vocx> NT__, I wouldn't be worried. The partitioner does recognise the space in sda1, sda2, sda3 and so on. So, you won't be touching those parts. The last step for the installation is installing the bootloader. The bootloader is a small program that will recognise the Windows partition and create appropriate tables for it.
[09:44] <NT__> vocx: Okay, excellent.
[09:44] <NT__> vocx: I'll restart and come back.
[09:47] <vocx> NT__, if the bootloader does not recognise Windows then you should be able to use a Windows CD tor thumb drive to reinstall the loader for Windows.
[09:48] <Slesa> Is there a 64bit port of ntpd or do I have to install the .386 packages?
[09:49] <jost> I'm on XUbuntu 14.10... How do I install Firefox 28 on it? Is there some PPA with legacy versions? I'd like to update to latest FF afterwards...
[10:06] <NT__> vocx Ben64: http://imgur.com/4VUWbk1
[10:06] <NT__> That's where I am guys.
[10:07] <NT__> Now, I'd like to install Linux in that free space.
[10:08] <Ben64> NT__: yeah do that
[10:09] <Ilhami> can anyone help me change permissions on folder?
[10:09] <NT__> Ben64: http://imgur.com/pMqYOsL It's not letting me.
[10:09] <Ilhami> drwxr-xr-x  what is this in digits?
[10:09] <NT__> Ben64: Should I format it to ext4?
[10:09] <Ilhami> 755?
[10:09] <Ben64> Ilhami: yep
[10:09] <Ben64> NT__: you need to create partitions
[10:10] <Ben64> / for sure, maybe /home, and some swap space would probably be good
[10:11] <NT__> Ben64: I read somewhere about creating swap areas?
[10:12] <NT__> Ben64: Do I turn the whole chunk into one ext4 partition?
[10:12] <Ben64> NT__: you could, or you can separate it into / /home and swap as i said above
[10:13] <NT__> Ben64: Okay, fine, so I format how much for swap?
[10:13] <Ben64> before you format, you need to create the partitions
[10:13] <Ben64> how much ram do you have?
[10:14] <Ben64> would you like to hibernate?
[10:15] <NT__> Ben64: Also, yeah Umm, I have about 8 gigs of ram.
[10:15] <NT__> And yeah, I live off hibernation.
[10:15] <Ben64> to hibernate you need at least as much swap as ram
[10:16] <NT__> Ben64: Okay, so I'm going to allocate 9 for swap.
[10:19] <NT__> Ben64: http://imgur.com/lSJ3kbF Is that correct?
[10:19] <RahulAN> Mayer
[10:20] <Ben64> NT__: yep, that'll work
[10:23] <NT__> Ben64: http://imgur.com/QcgVkLx
[10:23] <NT__> And that for the main partition?
[10:24] <Ben64> NT__: you have to specify the mount point ---    /
[10:24] <NT__> Ben64: Okay, specify that to / ?
[10:25] <midnightmagic> uh. so I updated my 12.04 host via apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, and now it's sitting at 12.04.5 with kernel Linux sentinel 3.13.0-43-generic. All of my LXC containers which were running 14.04 are no longer getting a configured network interface when they start. All my 12.04 LXC containers are working fine. Is there some way to tell LXC to run rc.local inside the container on startup that I'm missing? When I run lxc-start -n
[10:25] <Ben64> indeed
[10:25] <midnightmagic> containerName -- sudo -u root -i -- bash -l, I can configure an interface manually and it works fine via ifup.
[10:28] <NT__> Ben64: Okay, awesome, now I'll just install on the / partition.
[10:28] <NT__> Thanks.
[10:28] <NT__> can I keep Firefox open during the installation?
[10:28] <Ben64> NT__: yeah
[10:30] <sennn> hi
[10:30] <cfhowlett> midnightcommand, no expertise  here, but you originally configured containers in 14.04 then dropped to 12.04?  so ... you would need to reconfigure those containers, right?  Anyway: #ubuntu-server would know more I think.
[10:31] <midnightmagic> cfhowlett: no, I configured the LXC containers under a 12.04 host. The host was updated from: 12.04 -> 12.04.5, then because it was complaining about the kernel support ending, I updated to the trusty kernel only.
[10:32] <cfhowlett> midnightcommand, ah.  definitely over my head then.  ask server ...
[10:32] <sennn> ?
[10:33] <trash> Why is there a /etc/init.d/mysql-server AND /etc/init/mysql.conf which are totally different in the way that if you use service mysql restart after you did "start mysql", mysqld spawns multiple times?
[10:33] <trash> (both come from mysql-server-5.5)
[10:33] <Lucax> hello my error is: Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system. My question is: how to close this (is there a sort of task manager in ubuntu?)
[10:34] <nmatrix9> After a hard reboot I don't even see my bios screen on loading on my lcd monitor.  Could that mean my monitor is completely fubared?
[10:34] <jerrcs> Lucax: you might be able to open a terminal and do a "killall -9 firefox"
[10:34] <nmatrix9> yet it's still detected on xrandr
[10:35] <jerrcs> trash: i didn't quite understand your question 100%, but mysqld shouldn't spawn multiple times. that's not intended.
[10:35] <Lucax> killall9firefix worked swell!
[10:35] <Lucax> thank you
[10:35] <jerrcs> np
[10:35] <Lucax> that one goes to my tomboy
[10:37] <trash> jerrcs: Well, there is a /etc/init.d/mysql sysvinit start job.
[10:37] <trash> jerrcs: Then there is another completely different /etc/init/mysql upstart job.
[10:37] <trash> jerrcs: If you use "start mysql" to start mysqld via upstart, it runs fine.
[10:38] <trash> jerrcs: If you then use "service mysql restart" to restart it via the sysvinit job, it fails to detect the running mysqld and spawns it's own and then mysql id broken.
[10:38] <jerrcs> yikes, i'm understanding now. that doesn't seem right at all.
[10:38] <trash> Yeah.
[10:39] <trash> jerrcs: https://gist.github.com/stefanandres/10ceddcb4c0ce63c1647 - those are the init scripts.
[10:39] <trash> So either /etc/init.d/mysql should be linking to upstart-job or they should be compatible...
[10:39] <jerrcs> trash: which version of Ubuntu is this?
[10:40] <trash> Description:Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[10:41] <jerrcs> Interesting. I have only consistently used the "service" command, not upstart, so i'm not entirely sure. sorry
[10:41] <megaloden> goddamit .. people my age are becoming successful and here im with nothing
[10:41] <trash> Yeah, if you use puppet, it detects upstart and starts mysql via start puppet and if you then manually restart mysql via service, funny things happen.
[10:41] <trash> That's how I found out.
[10:41] <megaloden> hate bad luck
[10:42] <agent_white> Makes sense, you shouldn't be manually restarting if you have puppet, eh? :P
[10:42] <jerrcs> megaloden: luck? not sure if luck has to do with success.
[10:44] <megaloden> jerrcs: its all about luck bro
[10:44] <megaloden> place where one lives, past experience, opportunities you get, financial backing a person has
[10:44] <megaloden> all luck based
[10:45] <agent_white> trash: upstart and init.d trigger init scripts from different directories, probably(?) one of the reasons for conflicts.
[10:45] <megaloden> rag to riches don't happen without luck, if it did.. there would be many african billionaire
[10:46] <trash> agent_white: Well, wouldn' obsoleting the init.d script and symlinking it to upstart-job be the proper way?
[10:46] <oussama> how to install joomla
[10:46] <trash> wouldn't*
[10:46] <jerrcs> sounds like a bit off topic. everyone has different experiences. and my philosophy is if you don't like where you're at, do something about it and make improvements in your life. tons of free resources on the internet to pick up knowledge. tons of free education.
[10:47] <agent_white> trash: I'm not entirely sure,  I would check  out both and see if there's and differences before diving in.
[10:47] <trash> Of course they are different, that is the problem ;-)
[10:47] <agent_white> BUt personally, I would stick with service until systemd comes into play. Which will happen.
[10:47] <jerrcs> oussama: oussama: tons of guides on the internet for installing Joomla on Ubuntu. is there any specific part of the install you're getting caught up on?
[10:48] <jerrcs> oops, typo sorry.
[10:48] <agent_white> Upstart's time here will be short lived :P
[10:48] <trash> agent_white: I guess I could set https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-mysql/blob/master/manifests/server.pp#L19 but that's some workaround...
[10:48] <midnightmagic> :-( status: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[10:48] <oussama> how to install joomla
[10:48] <ikonia> oussama: what part are you not sure on ?
[10:51] <kahrl> hey, has anyone seen cups automatically change a printer's AuthInfoRequired setting from none to username,password?
[10:52] <kahrl> how can I make it... not do that?
[10:52] <kahrl> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.1 and the printer in question is a Lexmark MX511de (with the Lexmark MX510 series driver)
[10:52] <midnightmagic> ah, nevermind, that was just because I was lxc-start without an officially booted container, lxc-attach is helping with the debugging a lot
[11:03] <tonnzor> hi all, could anybody explain why nullsrc produce garbage?
[11:03] <jerrcs> What?
[11:04] <jerrcs> tonnzor: nullsrc?
[11:04] <tonnzor> just a sec..
[11:04] <tonnzor> ffmpeg -y -f lavfi -i "nullsrc=size=100x100,drawtext=text=demotext:fontfile=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf:fontcolor=red" XXX
[11:04] <changmen> Is there any people ?
[11:05] <theadmin> changmen: People exist, yes.
[11:05] <changmen> I am not good at English
[11:05] <changmen> hi
[11:06] <theadmin> changmen: There may be a support channel for your language. What do you speak?
[11:06] <tonnzor> this command would produce a garbage as output (I ommitted output format to be less verbose)
[11:06] <changmen> Chinese
[11:06] <theadmin> !cn
[11:07] <changmen> Thank you
[11:08] <jerrcs> tonnzor: might have more luck in a more specific channel, perhaps #ffmpeg ?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !kylin | changmen,
[11:08] <tonnzor> yep, thanks!
[11:11] <jtjh95> Hello installed ubuntu a couple times and i am still getting error when i restart after install: Gave uo waiting for root device.
[11:13] <ngomes> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[11:14] <ngomes> anyone see this today when aptitude update ?
[11:14] <jtjh95> getting error after GRUB: Gave up waiting for root device.
[11:17] <chansol> 안녕하세요.
[11:17] <theadmin> !ko
[11:18] <chansol> um.. I just join this chat (confused for room sorry)
[11:19] <NT__> Ben64: Installation complete.
[11:19] <NT__> How do I check if dual boot works?
[11:19] <NT__> It's asking me to restart.
[11:22] <NT__> Ben64 vocx: Do I install the bootloader
[11:22] <theadmin> NT__: Uh, well, you would restart and if it doesn't boot straight into Ubuntu and asks you to select an OS, it works.
[11:22] <chansol> Excuse me, um.. is this canonical official IRC or User Forum official IRC?
[11:23] <NT__> theadmin: Alright, wish me luck.
[11:23] <theadmin> chansol: It's an "official" support channel, but most of the people in here are volunteers and have nothing to do with Canonical.
[11:23] <theadmin> chansol: Is also unrelated to the forum.
[11:23] <theadmin> NT__: If anything, restoring the Windows bootloader is relatively simple.
[11:25] <chansol> Ah, i find official channel, but I think this IRC channel is official "support" channel..
[11:26] <theadmin> chansol: Is support, yes. We help you with Ubuntu issues.
[11:26] <chansol> then not support (just) channel is not available?
[11:27] <georgij> Hi will copy command `cp` warn me if I am out of space at any point?
[11:27] <jerrcs> georgij: it might print errors, i don't believe it'll halt on that.
[11:27] <PINGUIM> Hi guys
[11:28] <chansol> theadmin, ok I got it. sorry and thanks
[11:28] <georgij> jerrcs: Thanks
[11:29] <theadmin> chansol: If you just want to chat, there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <PINGUIM> m
[11:29] <chansol> theadmin,Thank you :-)
[11:30] <OOOOOOOO> hi
[11:31] <PINGUIM> Fazendo um teste com o weechat
[11:31] <jerrcs> Hi.
[11:32] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I know that in order to use more than 3 gigs or so of RAM you have to be on 64-bit, I am on 64-bit, 3 1 gig and 1 2 gig sticks, all recognized in the BIOS, yet system settings is only showing 3.4 gigs, Is there something I need to do to enable access to the rest of my RAM?
[11:32] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> And I just upgraded my computer, all I did was transfer the hard drive and video card, do I need to do anything else or should everything work just fine?
[11:34] <jerrcs> ThaSwapMeetPimp: so your install of Ubuntu is 64-bit? What does the command "free -m" show on terminal?
[11:34] <theadmin> ThaSwapMeetPimp: It should work fine... But if system settings only show 3.4, you are on 32-bit. Most likely.
[11:34] <theadmin> ThaSwapMeetPimp: Easy way to check is "uname -m"
[11:35] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> x86_64
[11:35] <theadmin> Huh.
[11:35] <theadmin> Well that's amusing...
[11:35] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> and 3511 total 2457 used
[11:35] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I know im on 64 bit
[11:36] <theadmin> Yeah, now to figure out why other RAM is not detected, eh.
[11:36] <NT__> theadmin: Okay, slight issue.
[11:36] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> exactly
[11:36] <theadmin> NT__: Yes?
[11:38] <jerrcs> that's a bit unusual. i would say that it was an issue with detection of certain DIMMs, or RAM modules, but it obviously is detecting them because it is using one of them partially
[11:38] <NT__> theadmin: I'm back on windows.
[11:38] <NT__> I never got to GRUB.
[11:39] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Thats your issue
[11:39] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> lol
[11:39] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> sorry had to say it
[11:39] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Yeah thats what i was thinking jerrcs
[11:39] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> that it is using one of the 4 partially
[11:39] <theadmin> NT__: Bah. Go boot the Ubuntu LiveCD again
[11:39] <theadmin> NT__: After that run boot repair
[11:39] <theadmin> !boot-repair
[11:39] <theadmin> Oh come on. Why is that not a factoid... uh...
[11:40] <theadmin> !restoregrub
[11:40] <jerrcs> this might seem dumb, but have you tried re-ordering the sticks? just a thought, I suppose.
[11:40] <theadmin> There.
[11:40] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> No I havent be right back
[11:40] <jerrcs> The only other thing I could think of is perhaps going through some of the system logs to see if there's anything in there
[11:43] <NT__> theadmin: Okay, cool, thanks!
[11:46] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Well reordering didnt do it, where specifically should I look in the logs, or should i just pore over them?
[11:49] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> ok dmesg
[11:49] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> WARNING:BIOS bug:CPU MTRRs don't cover all of memory, losing 1472MB of RAM.
[11:50] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> so its just losing the memory...any idea how to fix?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ThaSwapMeetPimp: test memory using Memtest86 from Grub
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> ThaSwapMeetPimp: if you see red, some or all of the RAM is bad
[11:53] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> And that would cause CPU MTRRs to do that?
[11:54] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> i have to reboot to do that huh?
[11:56] <chansol> 0
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ThaSwapMeetPimp: yes, you should check the RAM is ok, then you can start analysing things
[11:56] <hateball> too bad they left
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> meh
[11:57] <hateball> A quick google suggests it could be a BIOS bug
[11:57] <hateball> So... perhaps one should see if there's a new BIOS available
[12:04] <fenixx> Elo:-)
[12:12] <graze> Hey guys
[12:12] <fenixx> Hey
[12:12] <graze> I'm looking for a way to connect from my Laptop to my desktop, virtually
[12:12] <ubuntu-help> hi. when using windows, my laptop stays fairly cool. however with ubuntu, it gets so hot that the laptop immediately shut itself down. can anyone suggest what to do?
[12:12] <graze> how would I go about doing that? Just give me some names so I can google it
[12:13] <theadmin> graze: Check out TeamViewer, I think that's what you want
[12:13] <theadmin> graze: Other ways to do it too but that's probably the easiest to set up
[12:13] <graze> theadmin, I'm reading about openSSH
[12:13] <hateball> ubuntu-help: what are you doing when this happens? just letting it sit idle?
[12:14] <ubuntu-help> hateball: yep.
[12:14] <theadmin> graze: Ah, that also works, but that will only give you command-line access
[12:14] <theadmin> graze: If that's fine for you, then go ahead.
[12:15] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I removed a gig stick of RAM and it still says that I have 3.4.....when I ran memtest86, it immediately popped up saying that my 2 gig stick failed test 1
[12:15] <hateball> ubuntu-help: What GPU chipset do you have? It could be it requires installation of restricted drivers to handle power managment properly
[12:15] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> But it was recognized just fine before this, all i did was transfer it from one computer to another
[12:15] <ubuntu-help> hateball: i have the on-board graphics that come with the core2duo cpu
[12:15] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> and its less thana  year old
[12:16] <Seveas> graze: 'connect' is fairly ambiguous. What do you want to do? Remote desktop? File transfer? CLI commands?
[12:16] <hateball> ThaSwapMeetPimp: If you boot on just the 2GB stick, does that work properly? Also the cpu mtrr errors seems like it could be BIOS related, so check for a BIOS update
[12:16] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I will try that in a minute gotta finish rolling my dads smokes
[12:16] <graze> Seveas, I want to use my desktop's power to run some physics simulations
[12:16] <hateball> ubuntu-help: can you see if any process is eating cpu time even if you just idle on the desktop? it could be desktop effects are demanding for some reason
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ThaSwapMeetPimp: try with just one stick of RAM, then test. If it's ok try another
[12:17] <Seveas> graze: and these physics simulations, to they require a GUI?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> ThaSwapMeetPimp: hateball said it may be a BIOS issue, so try updating that too
[12:17] <graze> Seveas, I'll be using a software called "Quantum Espresso". No, they do not.. Perhaps later in the future I'll be using a GUI, but for now command-line is enough
[12:18] <Seveas> graze: ok, simple enough then if both are linux. scp the needed files over, then ssh in to run the necessary commands.
[12:18] <NT__> theadmin Ben64: Thanks a ton guys,  really owe you one.
[12:18] <ubuntu-help> hateball: is there any way to control specific power options? i.e with windows' offering of various power modes (low power, balanced, high performance)
[12:18] <NT__> I'm on Ubuntu now.
[12:19] <NT__> Is there a place to search for software lists?
[12:19] <DJones> NT__: Ubuntu Software Centre which will be preinstalled
[12:20] <DJones> NT__: Assuming you're using default Ubuntu with Unity
[12:20] <NT__> Awesome.
[12:20] <NT__> DJones: Yup, standard stuff.
[12:20] <hateball> ubuntu-help: yes but usually this should be handled automagically already. like cpu throttling etc
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> NT__: or use:  apt-cache seacrh thing
[12:21] <NT__> Will WINE come preinstalled?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> NT__: you can search installed packages with:   dpkg -l | grep thing
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> NT__: no
[12:21] <NT__> Or is it something I need to add?
[12:21] <NT__> Umm, how do I install it?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> NT__: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install wine
[12:21] <ubuntu-help> hateball: how would i be able to force certain power modes?
[12:21] <NT__> There aren't too many things I need to install: WINE, Skype, LaTeX, R, GHC, OCaml, Chrome.
[12:22] <NT__> Also, what about git?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> !git
[12:22] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> ok be back in a few
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> well, that factoid is useful
[12:23] <cerberos> I’ve got a wierd script freeze problem when I try to update docker (I think it’s related to gnu timeout & apt-get), see http://dpaste.com/1D2P7DW
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> NT__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[12:23] <cerberos> I’ve tried it on fresh 14.04 server on aws and digital ocean
[12:24] <hateball> ubuntu-help: the arch wiki has nice documentation https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_frequency_scaling
[12:24] <cerberos> both freeze, oddly when I remove the timeout it works as expected
[12:24] <hateball> ubuntu-help: the scaling governors section for instance
[12:27] <ubuntu-help> hateball: thanks
[12:28] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> 2 gig stick reads as 1.9 in about this computer
[12:29] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I dont know how to update the BIOS thats something I have always been fuzzy on
[12:29] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> reads as 1.9 when its alone that is
[12:30] <NT__> btw does anyone here use Chrome on Ubuntu?
[12:30] <midnightmagic> I did, for a long time.
[12:31] <paul45> yeah i use chrome on ubuntu
[12:32] <midnightmagic> sadly building it requires a google api which creates an end product which is muuuuuch less capable than even the official chromium builds are.
[12:32] <midnightmagic> *api key + configuration setups
[12:33] <midnightmagic> NT__: uh. why?
[12:33] <NT__> paul45: Is it good?
[12:33] <paul45> anyone know how to write from bash to a google sheet ?
[12:33] <NT__> midnightmagic: Just installed Ubuntu, I'm installing Chrome.
[12:34] <kiw1> paul45: tried googlecl ?
[12:35] <paul45> NT_ i love it .. no different than on any other platform
[12:36] <midnightmagic> NT__: it's good insofar as it's a fairly closed product, not cleanly or I think even legally 100% reproducible by an outside build.
[12:43] <paul45> kiwl: Cant seem to find much on googlecl about it :-(
[12:49] <DaffyDuck> how can I keep an automatic list of the packages I install (i.e the ones I purposely select to install, not the updates or dependencies)?
[12:53] <DaffyDuck> this is the most dead that I've seen this channel
[12:58] <mehdip2007> how can i disable tomcat from loading when system starts up?
[13:02] <jiffe> is there a way to disable quota check on boot?
[13:02] <agent_white> mehdip2007: http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[13:02] <ikonia> quota's aren't enabled by default
[13:03] <jiffe> ikonia: nope but I have them enabled
[13:03] <agent_white> As well as `sudo service tomcat disable`
[13:03] <ikonia> jiffe: so you'd need to disable them
[13:03] <jiffe> there's no way to just say, mount with quotas enabled just don't check them?
[13:04] <jiffe> I need quotas enabled on the disks, we had to reboot a machine last night to add cpus and instead of a 30 second downtime we had a 20 minute downtime because it had to check quotas
[13:06] <ikonia> jiffe: disable quotas on the non-important file systems
[13:07] <jiffe> ikonia: all disks with quotas enabled are important
[13:07] <jiffe> but that doesn't mean I want it to scan quotas on any given reboot
[13:08] <ikonia> jiffe: it needs to do that though
[13:08] <svetanikola2013> greets from serbia
[13:08] <svetanikola2013> anyone knows is there a body linux chanell here
[13:08] <jiffe> ikonia: why, what is the difference between an already mounted disk and a newly mounted disk?
[13:08] <svetanikola2013> sorry bodhi
[13:09] <Ben64> svetanikola2013: check their website?
[13:09] <ikonia> jiffe: there isn't one, am I missunderstanding what you are asking
[13:09] <ikonia> the disk is mounted it scans it on mount to get the summary
[13:09] <ikonia> from then onwards it can work with quotas
[13:10] <svetanikola2013> allready tried it gives out 404 error
[13:10] <hxtr> hello everyone
[13:11] <Ben64> svetanikola2013: no it doesn't, theres a link to the irc channel there, it is #bodhilinux
[13:11] <ubuntie> hello, what does this error from upstart mean?  service stackage-server start start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.73" (uid=1000 pid=21322 comm="start stackage-server ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[13:11] <ubuntie> oh, du.. perms
[13:16] <jiffe> ikonia: I mean it is doing a full quotacheck on boot
[13:16] <ikonia> jiffe: it will do it on mount
[13:16] <ikonia> it has to know the status of the disk
[13:16] <ikonia> jiffe: there is a layer now between the disk and the user - that manages the quota,
[13:16] <ikonia> it won't know about that until it's mounted, so when it mounts it needs to know
[13:17] <jiffe> ikonia: if I just umount and mount the disk without booting it doesn't seem to do this
[13:17] <ikonia> jiffe: right, because it's already scanned it
[13:17] <ikonia> it's not a new status at that point
[13:17] <ikonia> jiffe: think of it as an fsck flag
[13:17] <ikonia> same principal
[13:17] <jiffe> exactly, and i can prevent an fsck on boot
[13:18] <ikonia> jiffe: you're taking it a bit too literal
[13:18] <jiffe> sometimes I just need the machine to boot no questions asked
[13:18] <ikonia> eg: it needs to scan it
[13:18] <jiffe> and the scans can be done at a later time
[13:18] <ikonia> it can't
[13:18] <ikonia> it needs it to know the volume status to be able to enable quota's and allow/block people from writing
[13:19] <jiffe> sure it can
[13:19] <ikonia> if it was done after mount, the quota status would be unknown
[13:19] <jiffe> if I can umount/mount and it can assume the status from before the umount, then it can do the same on boot
[13:19] <ikonia> jiffe: it holds the status in memory
[13:19] <ikonia> thats why you don't need it the second time
[13:19] <ikonia> on boot it needs to set the status
[13:20] <jiffe> I'm not sure that is the case, I'm going to setup a test vm to test this
[13:21] <ikonia> jiffe: carry on then, from my experience with quotas using gnu tools, that is a requirement
[13:22] <Pepps_mobile> So install 14.04 today. Elantech touchpad not working though. Anyone got a fix google has failed me.
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:27] <fenixx> Hey
[13:31] <Pepps_mobile> Ya know. I've always wondered why whenever I asked for help all the conversations in this room just stop. Lol
[13:34] <marianne> quick question - on 14.04 right now. I am considering upgrading my processor. It would be AMD to AMD on the same motherboard and other hardware. Question is, will i need to install again or if it boots it's good
[13:35] <theadmin> marianne: You won't need to change anything
[13:35] <marianne> theadmin: thank you... best news I've had in a week... just switch it out and I'm good to go  :-)
[13:36] <joaovitorbf> theres any way i can use the gnome desktop instead of unity on utopic unicorn?
[13:37] <MoonLove> please, help, no sound with envy24(ice1724)
[13:37] <theadmin> joaovitorbf: Sure thing, just install gnome-shell. Or, you can install the Ubuntu Gnome Edition if you don't have the OS installed yet
[13:38] <joaovitorbf> theadmin: Thank you ;)
[13:39] <MoonLove> please, help, no sound with envy24(ice1724)
[13:42] <ChrisP1948> Having some issues here with 14.04 LTS running Gnome. From the 13th of Sept until the 27th of Nov I would see this periodically - Nov 26 22:28:32 localhost kernel: [124328.808011] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... render ring idle and would have to reboot with the power button or if lucky I could CTRL>ALT>F1 and reboot with sudo reboot. Since then I've been seeing a black screen with the mouse cursor but moving the mouse would
[13:42] <ChrisP1948> not take me to my desktop. Thinking it was X-Screensaver I deactivated the daemon for that last night. This morning I again had the black screen with cursor and could restart with CTRL>ALT>F1 login and sudo reboot. Any ideas?
[13:43] <MoonLove> please, help, no sound with envy24(ice1724)
[13:44] <jatt> ChrisP1948: do you see something suspicious in the Xorg.*log* files?
[13:50] <ChrisP1948> jatt, what should I be looking for?
[13:50] <daum> hey guys - i'm running gearman server and when i do a ps aux on it i get /usr/sbin/gearmand --log-file=/var/log/gearman-job-server/gearman.log but it doesn't include additional PARAMS from my /etd/default/gearman-job-server any idea how to get those included?
[13:53] <gdm85> hi. is there documentation about how to change the encrypted swap *after* setup?
[13:54] <ChrisP1948> Previous Xorg.0.log.old here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9560490/
[13:55] <jatt> ChrisP1948: errors the ones with (EE), but don't see anything suspicious in the one you posted. is that one after a crash?
[13:57] <jatt> in any case such errors can be either in the kernel or X graphic card modules. If your system is very unstable, one possibility would be to install an enablement stack which provides newer kernel/X versions (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack)
[13:57] <midnightmagic> ah, this is my exact issue right here: https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/344
[13:58] <ChrisP1948> That one was modified at 06:55 this morning which is when I got up and found the problem. Here is the one after the boot - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9560501/
[14:01] <ChrisP1948> The only EE I see in the new log is warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[14:01] <jatt> no errors there strange. so it might be a kernel issue. if your machine is not a production machine and if you want to test, one possibility would be to install a newer kernel from (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/) notice those kernels are not officially supported
[14:02] <grar> Anyone have any idea why no one has looked at this bug report yet?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1402319
[14:04] <ChrisP1948> I'll peruse the link. Its not, just my box here at home. I'm reluctant to mess with the kernel as in all my years of  Linux way back to Mandrake I've never compiled a kernel, have always just gone with those that are pushed by the distro.
[14:05] <fancymore> I use ubuntu 14.04 LTS. When I select some text in firefox text editor, then I click the text use left mouse, the text will disappeared. The same to chrome. anybody meet the bug?
[14:05] <jatt> ChrisP1948: I see, however you don't need to compile anything to install the kernels in that link (you just need just to install 3 .deb files for your platform and then dpkg -i those .debs, reboot)
[14:07] <ChrisP1948> Ok, looking at the link I see Index of /~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.14-trusty which is the latest for 14.04 am I correct?
[14:10] <jatt> ChrisP1948: what does uname -a say on your machine?
[14:10] <jesper--> newbie question: When I download something and unpack it > ./configure > make > make install, what actually happens is that ./configure gathers information on my system, make compiles the code with the information gathered, and "make install" installs the package on my system using the executables from "make"?
[14:10] <ChrisP1948> I see - 	linux-headers-3.14.0-031400-generic_3.14.0-031400.201403310035_amd64.deb and linux-image-3.14.0-031400-generic_3.14.0-031400.201403310035_amd64.deb what is the 3rd file?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ChrisP1948: loved mandrake :)
[14:10] <ChrisP1948> Linux localhost 3.13.0-43-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 8 19:35:06 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:11] <jatt> ChrisP1948: you need the linux-headers*-all.deb
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[14:11] <curiousx> jesper--: you right
[14:11] <jesper--> curiousx, thanks - So is this also what's known as "cross compiling"?
[14:13] <Chuck_Norris> jesper--: sry, but... idk about "cross compiling"
[14:13] <jesper--> ok, thanks though :)
[14:13] <Chuck_Norris> jesper--: maybe this could clear things up: http://wiki.osdev.org/GCC_Cross-Compiler
[14:14] <jesper--> cheers, I'll have a look
[14:15] <Chuck_Norris> jesper--: i think cross compiling means i.e compiling windows binaries from a linux machine, or, mac osx, from a linux maching, and etc
[14:17] <jesper--> yeah, that's what I get from the text too. So the configure/make/make install is to avoid cross compiling
[14:17] <jesper--> cheers for clearing that up :)
[14:19] <fancymore> for example: http://codemirror.net/, I select the text in textarea, when i click it the text will disappear, how can I fix it?
[14:19] <Chuck_Norris> yes, i think so, and... a couple of months ago i read something like: "It will be (if not already) possible compile ARM binaries from a x86 processor, it was a project related to Google i thing, even thoug this is a little be offtopic :P
[14:20] <triss> hey all. I've got a brand new spanking laptop and I'd like to try the closed source nvidia drivers with it
[14:21] <triss> how do I know which driver packages to install?
[14:21] <triss> would nvidia-current be a good place to start?
[14:21] <Chuck_Norris> triss: yes, software-properties-gtk  <additional drivers tab>
[14:22] <grar> Anyone have any idea why no one has looked at this bug report yet?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1402319
[14:22] <ChrisP1948> just to make sure I've got this right, download the three files then sudo apt-get install [filename] then dpkg -i [filename] and reboot? Or am I incorrect?
[14:24] <imbezol> dpkg -i does the install
[14:24] <imbezol> no need to apt-get install
[14:26] <ChrisP1948> Ok, so download the 3 files then dpkg -i <filename> one at a time or can I do a dpkg -i linux*
[14:26] <pbx> i have two accounts on my machine, one of which uses dropbox and one that doesn't. how do i stop the "dropbox setup" dialog from appearing each time i log into the one that doesn't?
[14:26] <bazhang> ChrisP1948, just apt-get install
[14:26] <imbezol> ChrisP1948: if they depend on each other you'll want to install them all in one shot
[14:27] <bazhang> ChrisP1948, using sudo of course
[14:28] <felon> cp wont let me cp a tar file to another directory
[14:28] <bazhang> felon, whats the exact command and file path
[14:28] <Chuck_Norris> felon: cp -v tar_file <directory>
[14:28] <Chuck_Norris> -v will tell you why you can't
[14:28] <ChrisP1948> Argh, ok, my 65yr old brain is getting fuddled, which one is it sudo apt-get install linux* or sudo dpkg -i linux*
[14:29] <Chuck_Norris> ChrisP1948: sudo dpkg -i linux*
[14:29] <felon> cp /home/.xchat2/downloads/Nightcrawler.2014.DVDscr.XVID.AC3.ACAB.tar /home/Downloads/
[14:30] <k1l> felon: wrong window and no warez in here please
[14:30] <felon> oh sorry
[14:30] <felon> yea wont let me do it
[14:31] <Chuck_Norris> felon: append $USER after /home/
[14:31] <ChrisP1948> Ok I'll go with the sudo dpkg -i linux* I'll give it a try after I get back from shopping this morning. Appreciate all the help
[14:31] <felon> oh duh
[14:32] <felon> im stupid sorry
[14:32] <Chuck_Norris> ChrisP1948: cya you'r welcome
[14:33] <imbezol> felon: you might want to get in the habit of tab completing
[14:33] <imbezol> felon: try typing /h<TAB>/f<TAB>/Down<TAB> (assuming your user name is felon)
[14:33] <imbezol> that way if it won't tab complete you know you're doing something wrong
[14:33] <DickDocker> Hi there. I am currently having problems trying to boot into a new kernel. I have "apt-get dist-upgrade" which claims to have installed 3.13 kernel but upon reboot my system decides it wants to boot into the older 3.10 kernel. I have also tried dpkg install the 3.18 version to the same end
[14:34] <felon> ok thx
[14:43] <jatt> DickDocker: you get the grub menu?
[14:43] <jatt> DickDocker: there you can select which kernel to boot
[14:43] <DickDocker> it boots fine, how can I make it choose the new one automaticlly
[14:44] <jatt> DickDocker: maybe this helps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/100232/how-do-i-change-the-grub-boot-order
[14:45] <DickDocker> I don't have a  gui :/
[14:45] <jatt> DickDocker: there is an answer to do it without GUI in that link
[14:45] <DickDocker> how can I list the options (menus) to know which one I need to set it to?
[14:46] <ara_> i put this in /etc/fstab, " /home/ara/myiso.iso  /home/ara/myiso  iso9660 loop,ro,user  0  0",  the iso gets mounted but i get another MYISO icon on the desktop, when i double click on it, it says loop0 is already mounted, also on upstart ubuntu complains about mtab, why is mtab connected here?
[14:46] <jatt> what does your GRUB_TIMEOUT say? (in /etc/default/grub)
[14:47] <grar> Anyone have any idea why no one has looked at this bug report yet?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1402319
[14:47] <DickDocker> 2
[14:47] <DickDocker> GRUB_TIMEOUT=2
[14:48] <bazhang> grar, when was it filed
[14:48] <grar> almost 5 days ago
[14:48] <bazhang> takes a bit of time as everyones a volunteer grar
[14:48] <jatt> DickDocker: not sure if it's to short... don't you see any grub menu when you boot?
[14:48] <DickDocker> it's a remote server, I don't have a kvm
[14:49] <grar> bazhang How long does it usually take? It's a critical bug.
[14:49] <bazhang> grar, better would be to check the appdb and ask for help in #winehq
[14:49] <grar> bazhang it's nto a WIne issue it's a an xorg problem
[14:49] <bazhang> grar a wine game bug is hardly critical
[14:50] <bazhang> grar step one , check if it runs at all in linux via the appdb
[14:50] <grar> bazhang I've done this, I
[14:50] <grar> I've used it successfully in the past
[14:50] <DickDocker> surely there is a way to list the options without needing to see the post screen
[14:50] <bazhang> grar and what is the rating in the appdb
[14:51] <grar> The problem is xorg is broken and doesn't handle input focus properly
[14:51] <grar> It's platinum
[14:52] <bazhang> grar you can choose to see when / if its picked up, or get more immediate assistance in #winehq
[14:52] <grar> bazhang again it is not a wine issue at all in the slightest
[14:53] <grar> thank you for trying to help though
[14:53] <bazhang> grar so sign up for notices on the bug tracker, and provide more info when asked
[14:53] <grar> bazhang already done so
[14:53] <bazhang> super
[15:00] <bynarie> say i got a HDD i want to recycle.. well we all know when we "delete" a file, its not really deleted, just marked to be overwritten.. what would be a secure way to actually remove data from hdd???
[15:01] <bazhang> !find shred
[15:01] <bynarie> would the dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda method work
[15:01] <bazhang> !find dban
[15:01] <EriC^^> bynarie: there's the tools srm and sfill etc.
[15:01] <EriC^^> !find sfill
[15:01] <NT__> Umm just wanted to say thanks to everyone earlier today who helped me out with installing Linux.
[15:01] <EriC^^> !info securedelete | bynarie
[15:02] <NT__> Especially Ben64, theadmin and vocx.
[15:02] <EriC^^> !info secure-delete | bynarie
[15:02] <bynarie> ty
[15:03] <yasser> hi all
[15:03] <rik__> hi
[15:04] <bynarie> hi
[15:09] <DickDocker> managed to get a remote KVM and list the options then reset grub cfg. thanks for help jatt
[15:10] <jabez> someone over here know how to install driver i915 in ubuntu 14.10?
[15:11] <bynarie> does anyone know a tutorial for installing a VNC server on xubuntu 14.10? I have read and tried several tutorials on the internet and cant seem to get anything to work
[15:12] <bynarie> jabez, is it for intel graphics card
[15:12] <bynarie> ?
[15:13] <BluesKaj_> jabez, it's probly already installed, just needs to be loaded , but try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:13] <EriC^^> jabez: lshw -C video | driver
[15:13] <jabez> I've tried to use python 2.7 with visual python and visual has many problems. any suggestion for me?
[15:15] <bynarie> sorry
[15:15] <bynarie> do it again jabez
[15:16] <Pici> jabez: How do you know it is a driver problem?
[15:17] <jabez> I really don't know if is a driver problem. I've search the answer in internet and nothing
[15:18] <jabez> anyone over here is a programmer in python like me?
[15:18] <Paradisee> where can i find ffmpeg ?
[15:18] <cfhowlett> Paradisee, you can but it's been deprecated.  use avconv instead
[15:18] <Paradisee> that's what i was looking for ty
[15:19] <cfhowlett> Paradisee, happy2help
[15:19] <guest-vPh11f> hello guys
[15:19] <guest-vPh11f> i need some help
[15:19] <Paradisee> i have this kind of problem:
[15:19] <Paradisee> configure: Configuring ffmpeg. This is quiet and takes a bit. Be patient.
[15:19] <Paradisee> yasm/nasm not found or too old.
[15:19] <guest-vPh11f> cant login with my name and password in ubuntu
[15:19] <guest-vPh11f> now am in with a guest account
[15:20] <guest-vPh11f> any remedy?
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Paradisee, don't use ffmpeg.
[15:20] <Paradisee> i cant choise
[15:20] <cfhowlett> Paradisee, ??? of course you can.
[15:20] <Paradisee> im compiling a file
[15:20] <Paradisee> anyway i solved
[15:21] <rik__> hi
[15:21] <obi12341> Paradisee look at the configure options sometimes there is smth like --without-ffmpeg
[15:21] <Paradisee> configure: error: "No usable version of GLEW found."
[15:21] <cfhowlett> Paradisee, libav-tools          will give you avconv
[15:22] <obi12341> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glew
[15:25] <guest-vPh11f> any help guys
[15:25] <guest-vPh11f> i need my home back
[15:26] <jatt> guest-vPh11f: boot into single user mode and change your password
[15:27] <Karunamon> Hi folks - I'm curious if there are any commands to manipulate the dialog displayed when doing a preseed/kickstart install
[15:27] <guest-vPh11f> jatt: how?
[15:27] <Karunamon> rather than "running kickseed" when my post commands kick off, i'd like to make that window display more useful info
[15:27] <guest-vPh11f> jatt: i startx unity (no sudo)
[15:27] <guest-vPh11f> and now this
[15:27] <guest-vPh11f> from cmd
[15:28] <cfhowlett> guest-vPh11f, STOP using the enter key please.
[15:28] <somsip> !pwreset | guest-vPh11f
[15:28] <guest-vPh11f> i know my password
[15:28] <guest-vPh11f> doesnt work
[15:29] <ash`> guest-vPh11f: that's why people suggest to reset it.
[15:29] <RickyB98> i'm having a problem installing mysql on my vps.. it keeps throwing the error "Unable to set root password" or something like that..
[15:29] <guest-vPh11f> oh
[15:29] <guest-vPh11f> thanks ash`
[15:29] <somsip> guest-vPh11f: change it to the same as before if necessary.
[15:29] <RickyB98> it prompts me for a password to type twice, then it does some operations and at the end it throws me that error
[15:29] <RickyB98> never managed to install mysql on any system because of this problem
[15:30] <ash`> guest-vPh11f: An alternative method, if you have access to the machine is to boot up a live disk and "try ubuntu" then you can access the command line use sudo su and reset your account password using `passwd`
[15:30] <somsip> RickyB98: how are you installing it?
[15:30] <RickyB98> somsip, sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client
[15:30] <guest-vPh11f> good to know
[15:30] <somsip> RickyB98: and what's the error
[15:30] <somsip> !paste | RickyB98
[15:31] <RickyB98> Unable to set root password. and stuff after it, but it just says like 'maybe you have already a password set' which is not trye
[15:31] <RickyB98> true*
[15:31] <somsip> RickyB98: so paste the 'stuff'
[15:31] <ash`> guest-vPh11f: the thing you may need to be aware of though with that approach it modifies the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow fiels on your tmp disk; so you would need to copy the password hash on to your main machine by mounting the disk to your tmp disk - if that makes sense?
[15:31] <jatt> RickyB98: just a random idea, another way to install such databases (if you use them for prototyping (not production)) is with docker, for instance I use oracle xe using a docker image and works great (and it's way easier to install)
[15:32] <RickyB98> somsip, haven't tried installing for long now..
[15:33] <RickyB98> the problem is that it freezes my ssh, so i have to disconnect and reconnect, but then there are some files i need to purge, plus apt has some .lock files i need to clear and so does dpkg
[15:33] <RickyB98> so that really bothers me..
[15:33] <guest-vPh11f> ash`: what way is that?
[15:33] <guest-vPh11f> with live cd?
[15:33] <somsip> RickyB98: I'd venture that you won't get far along in solving the error without being prepared to reproduce it
[15:33] <guest-vPh11f> shall try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[15:34] <leo_sift> have a very weird issue with a new server install. eth0 is not recognized in base boot sequence, but is still being mounted by os. result is no nameservers are being added to resolv.conf. I added some logging to 000resolvconf to see which interfaces are being detected and seems os is only seeing lo and eth1
[15:34] <RickyB98> somsip, i do know how to reproduce it.. okay, can you tell me what's the command to see which program uses a certain file?
[15:34] <RickyB98> there was like l--- /path/to/file | grep something
[15:35] <Paradisee> configure: error: "Couldn't find X11 libraries."
[15:36] <matyy> rious, didn't get no replies on the  ubuntu forums
[15:37] <matyy> Hey, I activated the root login on a server. I want to mount it's filesystem with sshfs with root priviliges. I don't find a way to sudo with sshfs. I also tried to work it out with groups, but than all newly created files have the group of the creator... which is bad, because I have to chown them constantly. This is all in an LAN, the only connection to the internet is via a reverse proxy, so direct internet contact at all.
[15:37] <RickyB98> somsip, you still there?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> !server | matyy
[15:37] <matyy> *no direct internet contactg
[15:38] <matyy> ok
[15:38] <matyy> tho this is the same with any ubuntu ^^
[15:39] <cfhowlett> matyy, true, but more likely to be some serious server folk in the server channel.  just sayin'
[15:39] <matyy> yeah thx
[15:41] <RickyB98> guys what's the command to see which process is using a certain file?
[15:41] <RickyB98> like to see which process handles a lock file
[15:41] <imbezol> lsof -n or fuser
[15:41] <RickyB98> lsof.. that was it..
[15:43] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  I have a PC with a AMD FX-4100 processor, which according to my research is AMD64.  When I try booting the Ubuntu installer, it can't find it.  Does it require the i386 version?
[15:43] <imbezol> matyy: you can't just sshfs root@<server>:/ /<mountpoint> ?
[15:44] <RickyB98> k guys, this is the error i get when trying to install mysql-server and mysql-client via apt-get.. http://puu.sh/dzNIb/de715a8c94.png
[15:45] <imbezol> RickyB98: you can tell it not to set the root password during install then fix the password after
[15:45] <imbezol> RickyB98: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[15:45] <imbezol> or fix it first then upgrade.. whatever
[15:47] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, more details: "can't find it"????
[15:49] <guest-o2Ws29> no dice guys
[15:49] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: "Please insert boot disk in device"
[15:49] <MarcGuay> If I insert an old Ubuntu 11 disk which is probably 32-bit, it loads.
[15:49] <guest-o2Ws29> password is changed still i cant login to my home
[15:50] <guest-o2Ws29> i can ctrl+alt+f2
[15:50] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: I've tested the install disk in another PC and it boots properly.
[15:50] <guest-o2Ws29> and login fine with cmd
[15:50] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, ah.  #1: verify the .iso you downloaded.  #2: verify the usb/cd made from the .iso   #3: is this pc/laptop uefi?
[15:50] <guest-o2Ws29> on gui login screen it just returns to it
[15:51] <guest-o2Ws29> can i try a different login daemon?
[15:51] <guest-o2Ws29> maybe has a bug
[15:51] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: I believe it has a regular BIOS (I just did a quick google for UEFI)
[15:51] <MarcGuay> If I replace the disc with another one it boots it.
[15:51] <MarcGuay> And the disc boots on another PC.
[15:52] <bazhang> MarcGuay, is the cd listed in the sources.list
[15:52] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, you really should verify that.  does matter and could effect results, e.g. today I tried to boot a laptop with a 386 USB.  nothing.  but amd64/uefi works fine
[15:53] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: How can I verify?
[15:53] <MarcGuay> bazhang: I'm not sure what that means.
[15:53] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | MarcGuay also: does the CD appear in the sources list?
[15:54] <bazhang> MarcGuay, in software sources,ie /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:54] <juned> ?
[15:54] <guest-o2Ws29> any help guys?
[15:54] <guest-o2Ws29>  Ubuntu is stuck in a login loop when trying to enter my desktop
[15:55] <MarcGuay> bazhang, cfhowlett The hash matches "ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso"
[15:55] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, good!  and the usb/cdrom you created from the .iso?
[15:56] <RahulAN> Mayer, i
[15:57] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, did you boot into a live session and then install or did you boot >>> install?
[15:57] <fedorafan> hey, how to join a group, its called vboxsf
[15:58] <cfhowlett> !vbox | fedorafan
[15:58] <matyy> imbezol: after activating the root account on the target machine, than yes
[15:58] <fedorafan> cfhowlett hmm I want to know how to add a user to an existing group hmm
[15:59] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: I can't get the install disk to boot.
[15:59] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, great.  just needed to clarify
[15:59] <MarcGuay> md5 on the DVD is taking a while, normal?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, very normal
[15:59] <cfhowlett> *chillax*
[16:00] <MarcGuay> :)
[16:00] <MarcGuay> even multitasking when taking it easy
[16:08] <griefer> Hello. Does anyone know where to get the scrip that runs when you invoke 'apt-get remove ...'?
[16:08] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: It's still calculating the md5.  Something weird, though, it seems like my 32-bit PC boots the 64-bit version no problem.  Maybe I've misunderstood something about i386 vs. amd64?
[16:08] <MarcGuay> For a 64-bit processor I want which version of ubuntu?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, 32bit cannot boot 64.  check your labels.
[16:09] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: I mean it's booting the DVD, to be clear.
[16:09] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, generally, 64 bit chip + 4 gb or more of ram = b4 bit .iso
[16:10] <MarcGuay> cfhowlett: The md5 sums don't match.
[16:11] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, verify exactly what doesn't match what.  verbose
[16:11] <cfhowlett> MarcGuay, better yet, paste it!
[16:19] <radagast> how sane an experience can I expect with upgrading an 8.04 install to 14.04? Is there anything I should look out for?
[16:21] <kazdax> yea the version number
[16:21] <cfhowlett> radagast, just direct install 14.04.1
[16:22] <BluesKaj_> radagast, 8.04 is so old I can't remember thje vast differences, just install 14.04 clean after backing up your data
[16:22] <kazdax> what if he has to backup terabytes of data
[16:24] <brainacid> Hello all... I cant loggin to my graphical interface somehow it wont let me in
[16:24] <kazdax> hey brainacid
[16:24] <kazdax> how are you doing /
[16:24] <kazdax> ?
[16:24] <EriC^^> brainacid: what do you mean? it restarts back to the login screen?
[16:24] <BluesKaj_> kazdax, well then let's hope he can install to /  and has a ~/ dir
[16:24] <brainacid> im using the console and i would like some guidance on how to choose a graphical interface
[16:24] <brainacid> Hi kazdax
[16:24] <brainacid> yes EriC^^
[16:24] <brainacid> but I have removed lightdm
[16:24] <EriC^^> brainacid: reinstall lightdm, sudo apt-get install lightdm
[16:25] <brainacid> mm are thre others
[16:25] <kazdax> i use unity and like it
[16:25] <brainacid> the internet does like links... cant read shit online with console
[16:25] <brainacid> lol
[16:25] <brainacid> bad html
[16:25] <brainacid> well i want low resource use
[16:25] <kazdax> there shoul dbe a browser thats texted based
[16:25] <brainacid> i use it kazdax
[16:25] <brainacid> links
[16:26] <brainacid> :)
[16:26] <kazdax> yea unit is not low resource
[16:26] <radagast> cfhowlett: BluesKaj_ : This is on a hosted/co-lo server that someone has asked me about upgrading it for fun and profit...
[16:26] <kazdax> unity
[16:26] <anonymous_> hello. i can install any program?
[16:26] <EriC^^> anonymous_: yeah
[16:27] <EriC^^> brainacid: why do you want another dm?
[16:27] <flexus> brainacid: sudo apt-get install lynx
[16:27] <brainacid> i love the speed of my machine
[16:27] <brainacid> flexus: different than links?
[16:27] <kazdax> fluxboxi just read is low resource
[16:27] <cfhowlett> radagast, your choice.  they couldn't pay me enough to upgrade 8.04 > 14.04 sequentially.  YMMV
[16:27] <brainacid> i have blackbox
[16:27] <brainacid> i just need a graphical shell session thingy
[16:27] <brainacid> lol
[16:28] <flexus> brainacid: oh you allready know some textbased browser, didnt see
[16:29] <anonymous_> how i can install php?
[16:29] <EriC^^> brainacid: fluxbox is better, it's blackbox with tabs
[16:29] <Programmer_> So I have a spare laptop hard drive I have laying around. I want to convert into an external. Would it be possible to use it as a windows bootable external? I run Linux on my laptop and well, for some of my classes, I have to use windows, and some times VBox is too slow
[16:29] <Programmer_> for example, for my microprocessor class, I have to flood a UART, but I could never get it done, b/c the time of sending bits from terminal to the uC was too slow
[16:29] <brainacid> EriC^^: what language was it coded in? C++ like blackbox?
[16:29] <Programmer_> That make sense?
[16:29] <EriC^^> brainacid: yeah
[16:30] <brainacid> interesting
[16:30] <brainacid> checking...
[16:30] <brainacid> i only need it for reading ebooks
[16:30] <brainacid> im gonna do most of my work on console from now on
[16:30] <EriC^^> it's very nice, fbsetbg -f /path/to/background to set the background
[16:30] <cfhowlett> brainacid, black box is not supported here.  sorry
[16:31] <EriC^^> and edit the ~/.fluxbox/keys to ad your own shortcut keys like Control Mod1 T :Exec xterm
[16:31] <EriC^^> ( that's ctrl+alt+T )
[16:31] <fedorafan> got it oki
[16:34] <imbezol> don't forget to try openbox :)
[16:36] <robjloranger> hello all
[16:38] <robjloranger> does anyone know much about scanner permission issues in 14.04? i can only scan as root which is not helpful as one then has to change ownership to use the file.
[16:39] <robjloranger> most of what i found searching online and in bugs was old
[16:39] <robjloranger> or similar but unrelated
[16:41] <flexus> robjloranger: /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules
[16:42] <flexus> libusb device nodes
[16:42] <flexus> change 0664 to 0666
[16:42] <flexus> oh, robjloranger which ubuntu version?
[16:44] <flexus> robjloranger: make your own rule for example /etc/udev/rules.d/52-udev-default-custom.rules
[16:46] <robjloranger> flexus: wow thanks, i just changed permissions which worked
[16:46] <robjloranger> flexus: i'm using 14.04
[16:47] <flexus> robjloranger: dont change permission, wrong from my side. it will be deleted after the next update. better do udev thing too
[16:48] <robjloranger> oh ok, is there a page on how to create a new rule? or a template?
[16:48] <pressure679> In a weighted union-tree - does the smaller tree have a specific depth compared to the bigger tree?
[16:50] <flexus> robjloranger: this is some generic line: adapt it to your needs: echo 'SUBSYSTEM=="vchiq",GROUP="video",MODE="0660"' > /etc/udev/rules.d/10-vchiq-permissions.rules
[16:50] <cfhowlett> pressure679, ubuntu support not homework support ... sorry
[16:52] <pressure679> nvm, as I understand it from http://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/28319/depth-of-any-node-x-in-weighted-quick-union-algorithm - the depth is not defined, so the smaller tree is better to search when the bigger tree's root with same level of the smallers trees root is started.
[16:54] <Console_brainaci> hey guys
[16:55] <Console_brainaci> no luck with reinstalling lightdm pam-kwallet
[16:55] <KevinSpacey> .
[16:55] <NT___> Okay, so I just got off Ubuntu, and I'm back on Windows because of a slight glitch.
[16:55] <NT___> Ubuntu is refusing to authenticate with the Wifi at college.
[16:56] <brainacid> damn
[16:56] <EriC^^> brainacid: ls -ld ~/.Xauthority
[16:56] <NT___> It's some really strange system where they ask you for a username and password.
[16:56] <brainacid> i cant get logged in into my gui
[16:56] <KevinSpacey> NT___: That souunds like my life with linux in general right now.
[16:56] <brainacid> one moment EriC^^ thanks
[16:57] <brainacid> EriC^^: VOILA
[16:57] <brainacid> thanks sir
[16:57] <brainacid> :D
[16:57] <EriC^^> no problem
[16:58] <brainacid> but i sitll like the console better
[16:58] <EriC^^> hehe
[16:58] <brainacid> :)
[16:58] <NT___> KevinSpacey: I don't know, I think it's called PEAP?
[16:58] <NT___> Or Tunneled TLS?
[16:58] <brainacid> lright been awake sine 445a and havent done anything useful
[16:58] <robjloranger> flexus: where did you get subsystem from? could i use idVendor?
[16:58] <NT___> I don't know what it is, and if I could figure out the protocol on Windows, I'd be able to connect with Ubuntu.
[17:00] <NT___> Anyone got tips?
[17:00] <flexus> robjloranger: try.. scanner in /dev/
[17:01] <kevdog> l
[17:04] <pressure679> NT___: Windows-servers want .cert files to be used, but it's not required - You can choose not to use a certification file - this guide is a pretty good example - http://blink.ucsd.edu/technology/network/connections/wireless/ubuntu.html
[17:04] <usrmaquina> hola
[17:04] <NT___> pressure679: Oh awesome, thanks!
[17:04] <pressure679> Sorry, not Windows servers, but routers.
[17:05] <NT___> Awesome, thanks guys!
[17:11] <hey_joe> hello all
[17:12] <usrmaquina> hi joe
[17:12] <robjloranger> flexus: so i ended up with SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="087b", MODE:="0666"
[17:13] <robjloranger> if i change hard permissions back, how can i test if this works? restart session? or restart sane.d
[17:13] <flexus> robjloranger: oh ok, your idvendor thing is specific
[17:14] <usrmaquina> hola
[17:14] <flexus> i'd test it with deleting the other rule
[17:14] <flexus> or moving it out for a moment
[17:14] <usrmaquina> una pregunta tonta, pero tengo curiosidad de saber por que es asi
[17:14] <robjloranger> flexus: and then restart anything?
[17:14] <usrmaquina> por que las versiones lts son de 5 años a excepcion de xubuntu que son de 3 años?
[17:15] <flexus> robjloranger: easiest way
[17:16] <flexus> udevadm control --reload-rules
[17:16] <flexus> better reboot after moving the other rule out of the path
[17:17] <cfhowlett> !es | usrmaquina
[17:20] <gour_> HI
[17:20] <milfhunter95> hi people
[17:20] <gour_> most of the time it does not mount the other drive what to do
[17:21] <gour_> it is writing to reboot the computer when i want to open the other partition in the hdd
[17:21] <robjloranger> flexus: ok, i'll reboot and check, seems reloading rules doesn't work
[17:21] <gour_> most of the time it does not mount the other drive what to do
 it is writing to reboot the computer when i want to open the other partition in
[17:23] <pixxel> Hello people. Does anyone have any clue how to get my spoofed mac-address to "stick". I bring down the interface for my wlan0, change the mac-address, and bring it back up. I then verify that the mac address have changed, and it has, but when i connnect to a wifi the mac always reverts back to the HW address.
[17:25] <milfhunter95> people i have trouble with pcmanfm , cd and flash drives no automount and i get error "Not Authirized " how i fix this error?
[17:25] <robjloranger> hey flexus: it works!
[17:25] <robjloranger> thank you
[17:25] <flexus> robjloranger: good
[17:25] <flexus> np
[17:26] <robjloranger> seems like an annoying bug for anyone new to linux though, they might assume it just can't work
[17:26] <robjloranger> i thought of filing a bug report but am not sure of what to file it under
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> robjloranger: ubuntu-bug udev
[17:28] <robjloranger> ok, thanks
[17:29] <fredflintstone_> what's up with udisks2 gvfs-daemons gvfs backends hvfs nautilus and brasero refusing to configure through dpkg in Ubuntu 14.10 on armh processor
[17:29] <fredflintstone_> it always gives me an error code
[17:30] <fredflintstone_> i uninstalled those packages and no more errors
[17:31] <pressure679> Lawl, just realized I asked a algorithm question in the wrong chat.
[17:31] <pressure679> *an
[17:31] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | and this is the wrong channel to lawl about it ;_;
[17:31] <milfhunter95> peoples , i get error No Authorized in pcmanfm, how i can fix it
[17:33] <Chuck_Norris> milfhunter95: sudo apt-get install curl
 curl for automount? o_o
[17:38] <Chuck_Norris> Chuck Norris style of mounting file systems *joke* is for doing pastes
 very cool joke
[17:41] <Chuck_Norris> milfhunter95: did you already install curl ?
[17:42] <Chuck_Norris> milfhunter95: i'm eating so, let me try one tip, in and out, if you want
 no in my soviet Russia curl install my
[17:43] <Chuck_Norris> well, paste the output of: id
[17:44] <milfhunter95> curl# vodka berezovski elcin balalayka babushka poshel na hui
[17:45] <Chuck_Norris> me no comprender polish
[17:45] <pavimob> how do i install docker on ubuntu 14
 это русский транслит мудила
[17:46] <Chuck_Norris> !ru | milfhunter95
[17:46] <OerHeks> !english
[17:47] <pavimob> none of use docker
[17:48] <milfhunter95> pavimob sudo apt-get install docker
[17:49] <OerHeks> pavimob, sudo apt-get install docker.io >> and some steps more https://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/
[17:51] <stivballmer> guys , windows virus on python this is real?
[17:51] <OerHeks> stivballmer, check ##windows, we don't know
[17:53] <stivballmer> OerHeks, ok, fuck it
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> !language | stivballmer
[17:55] <haidora> hey friends is there flareget for windows???
[17:55] <lucidguy> I have a Linux server with a large local xfs filesystem.  I need my Windows clients (authenticate via Windows AD) and my Linux clients  (authenticate via different ldap server) to access this same filesystem.  The server will export the fs to the Linux clients via NFS and Windows clients via Samba/smb.  How can one accomplish this?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> haidora: join the ##windows channel
[17:55] <OerHeks> haidora, wrong channel, try in ##windows
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !samba | lucidguy maybe more info here
[17:56] <stivballmer> haidora, what it is?
[17:56] <Syno> Hey guys
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> lucidguy: or join the #ubuntu-server guys, they might also know
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> Syno: welcome mate
[17:56] <Syno> Is there any channel for game hacking
[17:56] <Syno> ?
[17:56] <lucidguy> lotuspsychje, thanks , will do
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Syno
[17:57] <OerHeks> !hacking
[17:58] <aartist> I clone the ubuntu. When I run instance from oracle-vmware it shows the same IP Address.  What should be the difference if I want to run as 2 different nodes?
[17:58] <Syno> Perfect thanks guys, will still hang around here, it looks like a good resource!
[17:58] <OerHeks> !alis | Syno maybe alis can help you find what you need
[17:59] <kevdog> what's the "best" vm software?
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> kevdog: for ubuntu, virtualbox is reccomended
[18:00] <kevdog> I know that's a loaded question.  Looking for free options if possible
[18:00] <catacost> you want virtualbox
[18:00] <stivballmer> guys, i get error  NO AUTHORIZED with pcmanfm , how i fix it?! google not help me
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | kevdog
[18:00] <stivballmer> !info pcmanfm
[18:01] <stivballmer> !info ls -la
[18:01] <stivballmer> !info echo lol
[18:01] <stivballmer> !info echo
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | stivballmer
[18:01] <k1l_> stivballmer: stop that
[18:02] <Ukikie> stivballmer: Please don't play around in here.
[18:03] <q^_^p> hi to install kali linux on asus x201e efi boot
[18:03] <stivballmer> Ukikie, why?
[18:03] <k1l_> q^_^p: ask the kali support
[18:03] <k1l_> !kali | q^_^p
[18:06] <stivballmer> people, help me with auto mount in pcmanfm, please =\
[18:06] <q^_^p> ubottu ok tnx
[18:08] <Ukikie> stivballmer: Generally, Edit -> Preferences -> Volume Management.
[18:09] <k1l_> is the user in the plugdev group?
[18:11] <q^_^p> hi to install ubuntu on asus x201e efi boot
[18:13] <OerHeks> q^_^p, there is a good UEFI manual
[18:13] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:13] <q^_^p> OerHeks tnx
[18:21] <aktx> how do i disable copy-select via vnc?
[18:21] <aktx> anytime there is selected text in ubuntu vnc, it gets copied to clipboard >_<
[18:22] <stivballmer> Ukikie, well ok, i trouble with external drives , i get error No Authorized
[18:22] <k1l_> stivballmer: is your user in plugdev group?
[18:23] <aktx> never mind, found the solution http://superuser.com/questions/591049/how-do-i-prevent-vnc-from-automatically-coping-selected-text
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> just for the info: ubuntu phones are comming http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february join #ubuntu-touch to thank the developers who worked very hard
[18:24] <aktx> you have to add SendPrimary=0 to vncconfig line
[18:24] <stivballmer> k1l_ yes, my user in plugdev group
[18:24] <aktx> lotuspsychje, ohyeah? nice
[18:26] <jash> when is the ubuntu edge release?
[18:26] <stivballmer> k1l_, my system is ubuntu 12.04 with minimal lxde, i remove lightdm , replace xinit for session, install icewm
[18:26] <rodney77> Hello, is there a good program in Ubuntu I can use to make an audio CD...
[18:27] <k1l_> jash: if you fund the last millions needed i am sure they will make it :)  else: there is none
[18:27] <rodney77> ...where I can set/normalize audio levels between tracks, choose the amount of space inbetween tracks, etc?
[18:28] <stivballmer> rodney77, if this question, you can use brasero with normalize plugin
[18:28] <k1l_> stivballmer: missing gvfs?
[18:28] <lotuspsychje> rodney77: brasero should do the trick
[18:28] <jash> LOL
[18:29] <navad> hi could anyone assist me in setting up redmine with svn? i had svn server installed first, then installed redmine, i'd like to attach the two
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> !burn | rodney77
[18:29] <k1l_> stivballmer: usually the desktops use gvfs for easy automount. dont know if that is in your setup there. and maybe it is a root permission issue since lightdm is starting the xserver as root and handling that for the user desktops
[18:29] <navad> i'm having some issues getting that paths and such to work in apache
[18:30] <Actionparsnip> navad: ask in #apache as well :-)
[18:30] <stivballmer> k1l_, i have gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-common gvfs-deamons gvfs-fuse gvfs-libs and udisks
[18:30] <navad> thanks
[18:31] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: is it a USB storage you are having issues with?
[18:31] <rodney77> Thanks, ubottu, I didn't think brasero could do those other things I mentioned, but I will check it out again. I'll check out the other ones too
[18:34] <donileo> hey guys
[18:34] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip , usb and cd drive , i dont eject and mount all in pcmanfm , under user
[18:34] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: what filesystem is the USB using?
[18:34] <donileo> i have bind set to listen to an internal ip yet it doesnt do it.. after i do a sudo service bind9 restart then it does
[18:34] <Actionparsnip> Hi donileo
[18:34] <donileo> so upon initial boot itll never bind to that specified ip..
[18:34] <blackangelpr> !cn
[18:35] <Actionparsnip> donileo: does it stop after a while or does a reboot make it stop?
[18:35] <blackangelpr> anyone know the channel for kyling?
[18:35] <blackangelpr> the list on the freenode its too big
[18:35] <donileo> no.. it doesnt stop. bind/named is actually running
[18:35] <donileo> on localhost
[18:35] <donileo> but it wont bind to another interface i have which is 192.168.2.1
[18:35] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, fat
[18:36] <donileo> after i do the service restart it works perfect though
[18:36] <Actionparsnip> donileo: so after a reboot you need to restart the service to make it actually operate?
[18:36] <donileo> to make it bind to 192.168.2.1 yes
[18:36] <manikanta> gpg
[18:36] <manikanta> what is gpg keys?
[18:36] <donileo> it binds to localhost fine all the time
[18:36] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: have you ran an fsck on it when it is unmounted?
[18:36] <manikanta> can anyone explain me  plz?
[18:37] <Actionparsnip> donileo: all I can suggest, til you get a fix, is to add the command to restart the service in /etc/rc.local above the ' exit 0 ' line
[18:38] <donileo> i have this line listen-on port 53 { 127.0.0.1;192.168.2.1; };
[18:38] <stivballmer> k1l_, start xserver\pcmanfm with root user so easy but not usable with my, but this work
[18:38] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: they are used in Ubuntu to authenticate packages from sources
[18:38] <donileo> actionparsnip.. im guessing maybe the interface isnt yet up when named tries binding into it?
[18:38] <manikanta> So every repository has a gpg key or each package in a repository has gpg key?
[18:39] <k1l_> stivballmer: most packages are meant to be started by the *dm (lightdm). so i think that might be the issue there.
[18:39] <squinty> blackangelpr:  in hexchat or xchat > Server > List of Channels > Search   probably similar in your irc client if not using either of the other two
[18:39] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: each repo has a key and so does each ppa
[18:40] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: are you seeing a missing key when you run: sudo apt-get update
[18:40] <manikanta> Yes :'( :'(
[18:40] <manikanta> 50keys have been settled by following this http://askubuntu.com/questions/511736/cannot-solve-gpg-error
[18:40] <manikanta> but still there are 3 keys..
[18:40] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: pastebin the output of : sudo apt-get update ,and we can advise
[18:40] <chatterboi> Actionparsnip: i honestly dont think its possible
[18:41] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, no, you understand, see this screenshot http://rghost.ru/59777192/image.png, you see error? i think problem in rules auto mount deamons, but i dont know fix it
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://apt.postgresql.org precise-pgdg Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7FCC7D46ACCC4CF8
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://dl.hhvm.com precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A16E7281BE7A449
[18:41] <manikanta> W: GPG error: http://downloads-distro.mongodb.org dist Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9ECBEC467F0CEB10
[18:41] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562474/
[18:41] <manikanta> there you go
[18:41] <manikanta> !
[18:42] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: what is the output of : cat /etc/issue
[18:42] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: gimme a sec. I have a command for this
[18:43] <manikanta> Okay :) I will wait
[18:43] <stivballmer> manikanta, you version ubuntu? output sudo apt-cache policy python-software-properties
[18:43] <chatterboi> system you using on the ssd!
[18:43] <gargsms> I was trying to allow direct login on system boot in my ecryptfs secured user account. So, I created a new administrator user. Then from that user I modified the previous account to login directly on boot without password.
[18:43] <manikanta> 12.04
[18:44] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, ubuntu 12.04
[18:44] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562490/
[18:44] <gargsms> Now when I boot, there are no passwords asked, but I cannot boot properly. The login screen keeps coming again and again.
[18:44] <chatterboi> we are unable to stop them, so you must protect yourself
[18:44] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com CODEHERE
[18:44] <chatterboi> ${array[@]} Actionparsnip: i honestly dont think its possible
[18:45] <manikanta> for 3 gpg errors?
[18:45] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: obviously change "codehere" to the large hex code from your output
[18:45] <manikanta> Yeah
[18:45] <stivballmer> manikanta, i fix you problem , i downgrade python-software-properties
[18:45] <diegocastro> test
[18:45] <Actionparsnip> manikanta: no you need to run it for each gpg you are missing
[18:45] <gargsms> The only way I can boot in is by doing Ctrl + Alt + F2 then logging with the old account and startx. Then I need to do Ctrl + Alt + F7 to come back and boot in properly.
[18:46] <gargsms> I am using Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Any help?
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> Can someone please kick chatterboi
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> gargsms: is the OS fully updated?
[18:46] <Prezident> Why?
[18:46] <Prezident> What he did Actionparsnip ?
[18:46] <gargsms> Yes.
[18:46] <Actionparsnip> Prezident: smells like a bot
[18:47] <gargsms> I tried disabling the auto-login from the other account, but it does not work.
[18:47] <Actionparsnip> stivballmer: missed if you replied to my fsck question. Did you fsck the fat partition?
[18:47] <k1l_> chatterboi: please read the !guidelines and keep this channel for constructive support. thanks
[18:47] <chatterboi> i did uninstall and reinstall, but when
[18:47] <Actionparsnip> Told ya
[18:48] <donileo> Actionparsnip
[18:48] <donileo> got some more details
[18:49] <manikanta> Still the same errors :'(
[18:49] <donileo> so.. that 192.168.2.1 interface is actually my openvpn tun0 interface..
[18:49] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562474/
[18:49] <donileo> so im guessing whats happening is bind is trying to start on that interface however openvpn hasnt started yet and started the interface
[18:49] <donileo> so im wondering how to resolve the issue
[18:50] <manikanta> @Actionparnship ??
[18:51] <mlindner> Why is ubuntu's version of eclipse ridiculously out of date?
[18:52] <bubbasaures> mlindner, So out of date you gad to add "ridiculously" to make your point?
[18:52] <bubbasaures> had*
[18:52] <bubbasaures> who's "ridiculously" and what is the definition?
[18:52] <mlindner> bubbasaures: no support for c++11 compilation without all sorts of hacks for example
[18:53] <mlindner> also old and buggy UI
[18:53] <stivballmer> Actionparsnip, http://pastebin.com/6CdzeFVq
[18:53] <k1l_> mlindner: file a bug/request to increase version. maybe its maintainers are gone and need help
[18:54] <k1l_> mlindner: bug/request on launchpad.net
[18:54] <mlindner> k1l_: maintainer is ubuntu developers
[18:55] <k1l_> mlindner: file against  the eclipse package. and see if the maintainer response. else try to help there. maybe there is none left who looks after eclipse.
[18:55] <Pici> It likely just gets synced from debian.
[18:57] <trism> the bug is already there anyway, bug 1019273
[18:58] <mlindner> trism: sometimes i wonder if ubuntu maintainers aren't inept idiots. Nothing gets updated until users beg and plead for it
[18:59] <mlindner> enough to make you switch distros
[18:59] <mlindner> if this distro wasn't company mandated
[18:59] <k1l_> mlindner: well, what about you help them instead of just demanding and namecalling?
[18:59] <Helaoo> HI?
[19:00] <manikanta> gpg keys error anyone??
[19:00] <manikanta> can anyone explain it??
[19:01] <manikanta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9562706/
[19:01] <Helaoo> gvgff
[19:02] <Changa> Hello, I have just moved from a shared hosting to a 14.04 ubuntu vps from OVH, by default they don't provide a management page to assign domains to use with it. How do I go about directing several domains to the server to use?
[19:07] <mlindner> k1l_: how? i'd update the package in ubuntu myself if i could
[19:07] <mlindner> centralized package mangement isn't good in general
[19:08] <alami> hello, can any one help me to solve a PRoblem with my VGA card?  VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[19:12] <robby2k> hi
[19:12] <robby2k> when i install steam the program doesnt launch
[19:13] <lumia900> Dose apache2 works as like IIS for multi website on same server ?
[19:13] <lumia900> along side with different ports
[19:14] <k1l_> robby2k: open a terminal, start steam there and see if a error pops up
[19:14] <robby2k> OK
[19:14] <robby2k> nothing
[19:15] <palci> zdravim, vedel a bol by ochotny mi niekto pomoct? nedari sa mi rozchodit FireWire zvukovku
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> robby2k: maybe the #ubuntu-steam guys might know
[19:15] <robby2k> ok
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !sk | palci
[19:15] <robby2k> ty
[19:15] <alami> hello, can any one help me with VGA Problem i have ubuntu 14.10
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !steam | robby2k
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> alami: its best you say whats your specific problem to the channel
[19:16] <squinty> !ask | alami
[19:17] <palci> hi, i have problem - my firewire sound interface wont work, do you can help me?  Thanks
[19:17] <alami> lotuspsychje: i can't change the resolution of the screen
[19:18] <alami> and i can't find the package: xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:18] <alami> with apt-get
[19:18] <flexus> palci: can you do some lspci | grep FireWire  ?
[19:18] <N3sh> hello!
[19:18] <flexus> palci: some dmesg | grep -i firewire  too
[19:19] <N3sh> is this the right place to ask for help to install Ubuntu on my mac?
[19:19] <N3sh> I just can't seem to nail it
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> !mac | N3sh
[19:19] <N3sh> went over there
[19:19] <N3sh> I got the page up and checking it
[19:19] <hey_joe> N3sh: what hardware
[19:19] <N3sh> main problem is to get mac to recognize the USB as bootable and install ubuntu
[19:19] <N3sh> macbook 3,1
[19:19] <alami> can any one help me to install xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:20] <N3sh> I got rEFIt and tried both with unet and manually
[19:20] <N3sh> both windows and osx
[19:20] <tck9> i'm trying to install libfuse-dev with 'apt install libfuse-dev' but am getting a message about unmet dependency (libfuse-dev depends libselinux-dev).. is there a way to resolve this?
[19:20] <tck9> using ubuntu 14.04
[19:20] <N3sh> I just installed Debian in a similar way (didn't work because of hardware support)
[19:20] <hey_joe> N3sh: dont use a 3rd party loader... not necessary and will just confuse things
[19:20] <N3sh> my macbook supports up to 10.10
[19:20] <hey_joe> N3sh: hardest part i remember was getting the actual usb bootable
[19:20] <N3sh> I got the 10.04
[19:20] <hey_joe> no DVD drive?
[19:21] <N3sh> yeah but no dvd to brun :P
[19:21] <N3sh> burn}
[19:21] <hey_joe> awe
[19:21] <N3sh> weird because debian booted just fine
[19:21] <palci> flexus: http://pastebin.com/fx0NpLk9
[19:21] <hey_joe> what ISO you using?
[19:21] <N3sh> even using unet
[19:21] <hey_joe> the desktop 10.04?
[19:21] <N3sh> ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[19:21] <hey_joe> x86 or amd64?
[19:21] <N3sh> for intel
[19:21] <hey_joe> k
[19:21] <N3sh> x86
[19:21] <hey_joe> and then your using disk utility in some fashion?
[19:22] <N3sh> well formatted the stick with 1 part in MS-DOS
[19:22] <hey_joe> you wouldnt happen to have a Windows installer DVD/CD would you?
[19:22] <N3sh> did the same old dd if of
[19:22] <palci> flexus: http://pastebin.com/zyMnReWA
[19:22] <hey_joe> gotcha
[19:22] <N3sh> mmm
[19:22] <N3sh> perhaps
[19:22] <flexus> palci aplay -l and aplay -L
[19:22] <N3sh> somewhere
[19:22] <squinty> alami:  use software manager or synaptic package manager or apt-get  etc to install that package
[19:22] <hey_joe> N3sh: stick that in, make sure it boots whilst holding "c" or "command-c" (forget)
[19:23] <N3sh> not sure though :P
[19:23] <hey_joe> N3sh: is there a nother PC running linux or windows you can create the installer from?
[19:23] <N3sh> yep
[19:23] <palci> flexus: there is only integrated HDA
[19:23] <N3sh> I did the Debian one from my windows machine
[19:23] <hey_joe> N3sh: have you used unetbootin?
[19:23] <N3sh> using unet
[19:23] <N3sh> I tried both with unet and without
[19:23] <hey_joe> ah
[19:23] <N3sh> Debian worked with unet and manually
[19:24] <N3sh> so I think the problem is the ISO
[19:24] <alami> squinty: when i run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-sis, i get that the packet not found
[19:24] <flexus> palci: with  cat /proc/asound/cards too right?
[19:24] <hey_joe> N3sh: you can try downloading a new one...
[19:24] <N3sh> even Debian live had problems, Debian full worked
[19:24] <hey_joe> N3sh: however, I recently did a ubuntu install on an xserve2,1
[19:24] <flexus> palci: which model?
[19:24] <bekks> !info xserver-xorg-video-sis
[19:24] <hey_joe> and there was actually a separate ISO for it as it did not utilize some booting method...
[19:24] <alami> bekks: not exist :-)
[19:24] <squinty> alami: are you using a currently supported ubuntu version?  that package exists in trusty
[19:24] <hey_joe> perhaps the macbook 3,1 is at that cusp, altho it seems much newer than my xserve2,1
[19:25] <hey_joe> so i doubt thats it.
[19:25] <N3sh> yeah?
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: i would try one more installer like Mint
[19:25] <palci> flexus: yes, in /proc/asound/cards too.. It is Edirol FA-66 .. One year ago worked fine, but now it is problem..
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: let me dig up the xserve2,1 link about it
[19:25] <N3sh> alright
[19:25] <dj__> how do i restart my gui from terminal?
[19:25] <N3sh> thanks
[19:25] <alami> squinty:DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 14.10"
[19:25] <hey_joe> N3sh: your using the wrong iso
[19:26] <hey_joe> here
[19:26] <bekks> alami: Well, I think you'll be out of luck not using 12.04
[19:26] <hey_joe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook3-1/Maverick
[19:26] <hey_joe> Intel Mac users will need to download the customized AMD64+Mac .iso disk image due to changes in the EFI boot configuration in Maverick.
[19:26] <hey_joe> has links to the ISO's
[19:26] <alami> bekks: all right
[19:26] <cantoma> hey guys, I am trying to mount a cifs drive. I have managed to do it by doing $ mount -t cifs //ip/files drive/ -o username=blabla,password=blabla. But if I try to replace ip by the domain name then I get the error "mount bad option...". The command is basically: mount -t cifs //domain.name.bla.bla/files. can someone advice what might went wrong? I can ping the domain name and I am getting the ip from that.
[19:26] <N3sh> does it?
[19:26] <hey_joe> N3sh: you may or may not be able to use the unet method to create the installer
[19:26] <alami> thanks bekks
[19:26] <N3sh> there are 2 links
[19:27] <squinty> alami:  fwiw  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-sis&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[19:27] <N3sh> all dead
[19:27] <flexus> palci: alsa? pulse? x?
[19:27] <hey_joe> they dead?
[19:27] <hey_joe> shit
[19:27] <hey_joe> one sec
[19:27] <palci> flexus: alsa
[19:27] <alami> squinty: so the packages doesn't exist on 14.10?
[19:27] <hey_joe> N3sh: what about a 14.04 iso?
[19:27] <N3sh> that's why I went back to 10.04 :P
[19:27] <N3sh> already tried it
[19:28] <hey_joe> let me see if i can find the newer iso for mac
[19:28] <hey_joe> ported
[19:28] <N3sh> that's what I am having problem with :P
[19:28] <palci> flexus: sorry, but im no idea, how i can switch between pulse and alsa
[19:28] <N3sh> my current iso: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[19:28] <hey_joe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[19:28] <squinty> alami:  doesn\t look like it :(
[19:28] <hey_joe> let me see if i can find 14.04.4
[19:28] <flexus> palci: if you install pulse it will be a layer over alsa
[19:29] <flexus> palci: you can do aplay /usr/share/sounds/bla
[19:29] <hey_joe> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[19:29] <alami> squinty:bekks: thanks you so much for the info, can you suggest me what distro to install on this old laptop?
[19:29] <hey_joe> N3sh: /\
[19:29] <flexus> palci: lower volume before
[19:29] <hey_joe> N3sh: unetbootin method to create may not work, may have to use the method that utilizes dd and disk utility on the mac
[19:29] <flexus> palci: look if amixer shows up
[19:29] <N3sh> lovely hey_joe
[19:30] <hey_joe> N3sh: but worth a shot
[19:30] <N3sh> I'll try unet
[19:30] <N3sh> then go for the boring one
[19:30] <N3sh> :D
[19:30] <hey_joe> notice the +mac on the iso
[19:30] <hey_joe> lol
[19:30] <hey_joe> good luck
[19:30] <N3sh> yeah, that's why I am hopeful now :P
[19:30] <palci> flexus: Then it is pulse active now... But why is see only "Alsa" in ubuntu sound configuration card? Volume levels is lovered
[19:30] <squinty> alami: using a 10 year old acer laptop with 4 gigs here running 14.04 fine  fwiw
[19:30] <hey_joe> it worked great for me on the xserve2,1 - but i stomached it and just put OSX back on it. was able to upgrade the box to lion which is good enough for me
[19:30] <flexus> you can type pulseaudio and check
[19:30] <hey_joe> then installed brew etc..
[19:31] <palci> flexus: No, there is only Intel HDA in amixer :/
[19:31] <hey_joe> thing has 32GB ram tho, makes a killer minecraft server :)
[19:31] <flexus> palci: ok
[19:31] <flexus> i thought firewire hda
[19:31] <squinty> alami:  afaik, sis cards are pretty well outdated
[19:31] <OerHeks> N3sh, no need for the mac iso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro3-1/Trusty
[19:32] <squinty> flexus:  #ubuntu-studio rascals might be more familiar with firewire if no solution forthcoming here
[19:32] <N3sh> eh? OerHerks
[19:32] <N3sh> eh? OerHeks
[19:32] <flexus> squinty: why not..
[19:32] <alami> squinty: arch retum i686, should install amd64 iso, or i386?
[19:33] <OerHeks> N3sh, take some time to read, before asking eh?
[19:33] <N3sh_> I tried 10.04 already
[19:33] <bekks> alami: what exactly return i686?
[19:33] <N3sh_> but didn't work...
[19:33] <squinty> flexus:  why not what?
[19:33] <alami> bekks: the arch command
[19:33] <N3sh_> OerHeks can you be more precise?
[19:34] <bekks> alami: and?
[19:34] <flexus> palci: going #ubuntu-studio.. if you do tell them kernel module needed, you may need some modprobe
[19:34] <bekks> alami: It just means that the current system is i686 - it doednt tell you wether your system is capable of 64bit.
[19:34] <alami> bekks: so wich iso i have to pick up? amd 64? or i386
[19:34] <bekks> alami: Which hardware do you have?
[19:34] <flexus> palci: try finding edirol fa-66 kernel module and load it by hand
[19:35] <alami> bekks:AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-30
[19:35] <bekks> alami: That CPU is capable of 64bit.
[19:35] <alami> it's support both
[19:35] <alami> bekks: i have only 1Gb RAM so do i have to install amd64.iso or i386.iso?
[19:36] <bekks> alami: Unless you have 32bit CPU, you should choose 64bit.
[19:36] <bekks> *a
[19:36] <alami> thanks you so much
[19:36] <circ-user-W9K0G> čau..!
[19:37] <squinty> alami: suggest you don't try running ubuntu... might want to take a look at lubuntu (has less memory requirements)
[19:38] <flexus> palci: maybe sudo apt-get install multimedia-firewire  -look for ffado too
[19:39] <flexus> afk eating
[19:39] <palci> flexus: both off them is already installed.. ffado, 1394 drivers.
[19:40] <jazzed> Looking to get apparmor to allow access to /var/run/docker.socket. Any ideas?
[19:46] <echo-kilo-oscar> Hello. I'm trying to get proper lid behavior for my new laptop. I'd like the screen to turn off but nothing else. I use xmonad and not gnome or unity. Right now, I have a script in /etc/acpi/events that calls xscreensaver -activate and I have xscreensaver just blank the screen. But last time I closed my laptop, at some point the screen must have turned itself back on somehow. Does anyone know how to figure out what woke it up?
[19:59] <palci> flexus: ffado found the FA-66, but alsa no..
[20:11] <flexus> palci: some guess: backports, but cant help you at this one
[20:12] <herren> hello guys. need help with ubuntu 14.04 lts . i am using mobile broadband ( my isp is vodafone ) connection with network manager to connect to internet . and i want to change dns . how can i do that
[20:12] <N3sh_> hey_joe still nothing
[20:12] <N3sh_> :(
[20:12] <N3sh_> cannot run the installer for Ubuntu on my macbook
[20:13] <palci> flexus, anyway, Thank you! :)
[20:14] <N3sh_> does anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a frikking macbook?:
[20:14] <N3sh_> I cannot see the bootable USB
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: apple will love you if you do :-)
[20:14] <herren> i  found a website , explains changing dns
[20:14] <PCatinean> hey guys
[20:14] <flexus> palci: sorry
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: what sort of MacBook?
[20:14] <herren> must i edit this file /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[20:14] <N3sh_> mbp3,1
[20:14] <PCatinean> How does one tether internet connection through usb cable from ubuntu 14.10 to a HTC phone?
[20:14] <N3sh_> followed the guide(s)
[20:14] <PCatinean> running android kit-kat
[20:15] <N3sh_> still unable to see it
[20:15] <N3sh_> used the amd+mac.iso still unable
[20:15] <N3sh_> MBR partition or GUID one
[20:15] <N3sh_> STILL unable!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> herren: you can edit /etc/resolv.conf to set it for the session you have, or did you want it permanent?
[20:15] <N3sh_> but with Debian full iso it worked (not Debian itself though)
[20:15] <palci> flexus: nevermind :) I try search for solution from users with similar problem but another card...
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:15] <N3sh_> I don't know what else to do all the guides are the same and it doesn't work
[20:16] <herren> ActionParsnip, i have edited /etc/resolv.conf but i cant connect some websites
[20:16] <N3sh_> not really but I am using a downloader and I've downloaded about 5 ISO's
[20:16] <palci> flexus: And sorry for my poor english too :)
[20:16] <OerHeks> N3sh, told you, no need for the mac iso, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro3-1/Trusty
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: is it to dual boot or just Ubuntu as the sole OS?
[20:16] <N3sh_> dual boot
[20:16] <N3sh_> I have rEFIt installed
[20:16] <herren> i want to edit dns permanently and my isp should use my custom dns
[20:16] <N3sh_> and GRUB as a side
[20:16] <bekks> N3sh_: So did you download the official ubuntu iso for mac?
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> herren: can you ping the host and get an IP back from the sites you cannot access?
[20:16] <N3sh_> I went for this: ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:17] <N3sh_> this: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: ah, never used refit. I dont buy Apple rubbish
[20:17] <N3sh_> lol
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: are there no guides on YouTube?
[20:17] <herren> yeah i can get the  ip ActionParsnip
[20:17] <N3sh_> I found guides even on ubuntu
[20:17] <N3sh_> the official site
[20:17] <herren> next step ActionParsnip ??
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> herren: then your issue isn't DNS
[20:17] <N3sh_> they all refer to the 'standard' way and it's just not working for me
[20:18] <herren> hmm how can i connect then?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: do you use a proxy for web access?
[20:18] <herren> i dont use a proxy
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: what browsers have you tried?
[20:18] <herren> i am using usb modem ( isp is vodafone)
[20:18] <herren> firefox
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> herren: tried any others?
[20:18] <herren> my ubuntu is newly installed 14.04 32 bit lts
[20:19] <herren> no  i did not try . btw ActionParsnip no proxy settings are dones in firefox
[20:19] <N3sh_> ActionParsnip: can I boot from the USB using GRUB?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> herren: then try another browser, like Chrome/ium. If the sites show there then it is a Firefox or Firefox config issue
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: sure, grub can boot most things.
[20:20] <herren> ActionParsnip, when i right click on netwokr manager and click connection information my primary dns and secondary dns are set by isp
[20:20] <herren> ok ActionParsnip i will download and try chrome/ium
[20:20] <Guest90> Need a little advise on changing out a suse samba server.
[20:20] <N3sh_> mmm that might help
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> herren: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest90: wassup?
[20:21] <herren> 51mbs?
[20:21] <herren> ok ActionParsnip i will download and try
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> herren: it is a full web browser...
[20:21] <herren> if i cant connect i will try to type here
[20:21] <herren> thank you so much for help
[20:22] <Guest90> pretty simple setup I think. 12 windows pc's using smb shares on the existing server that should be replaced due to age. Was wondering if ububtu server edition is the way to go ?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> herren: no worries, you are patiemt and reasonable, so deserve all the support you can want :-)
[20:22] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Don't use the +mac iso if you're trying to boot via USB. The +mac iso just removes UEFI support, and many intel macs only support booting from USB via EFI.
[20:22] <herren> ActionParsnip, i know but package is too big . also in ubuntu 13.xx i was able to connect websites . i was only editing /etc/resolv.con file and everything was ok
[20:23] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I am lost, really... I tried +mac without mac. With rEFIt without it
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> Guest90: sure, just copy over smb.conf and restart samba. You can then rsync over your data, or restore from your backups. Make your Samba users and done.
[20:23] <N3sh_> can I use chainloader to boot the USB stick?
[20:23] <herren> but when i installed ubuntu 14.04 ( a clean install from dvd) i tried to change /etc/resolv.conf file but my isp is overwriting it ( afaik) and i cant use google dns
[20:23] <N3sh_> Jordan_U
[20:24] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: How did you prepare the USB drive when you used ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso (assuming you used that exact iso)?
[20:24] <Guest90> perfect, thank you. Appreciate the help !
[20:24] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: it was written to use this: ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386.iso
[20:24] <N3sh_> not amd
[20:24] <N3sh_> since it's intel based
[20:25] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Those are *very* old instructions, a lot has changed. If this has a 64 bit CPU then I would recommend starting by trying ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso .
[20:25] <OerHeks> AMD was the first vendor with a 64 bit cpu backwards compatible with 32 bit.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: AMD64 is the term used for all 64 bit x86 CPUs, AMD devloped the architecture first but Intel has adopted it for its 64 bit CPUs.
[20:26] <MoonLove> please, help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:27] <Robdude> I have a large 3tb external harddrive that I on PC, Laptop and PS3.  The PS3 does not support encrypted drives and I don't want to perform a full disk encryption/decryption every time I want to connect the drive to the PS3.  Is there anything I could do to make the disk 'less readable' that would be easily reverseable?
[20:28] <bekks> Robdude: No.
[20:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: ok downloading the iso. What next? Unet? Or dd?
[20:28] <N3sh_> I really want to make it work....
[20:29] <herren> thank you so much guys for help
[20:29] <herren> tc all
[20:30] <MoonLove> please, help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: what do you do with the ISO file to put it on the USB stick?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: aw man :(
[20:31] <N3sh_> ActionParsnip: me?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: yes. How do you put the ISO on the USB stick?
[20:31] <N3sh_> either dd or unet
[20:31] <N3sh_> so either from mac or from windows
[20:31] <N3sh_> debian from windows worked fine
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> N3sh_: have you tried the pendrivelinux application?
[20:31] <N3sh_> ubuntu just doesn't want to work
[20:31] <MoonLove> ActionParsnip, trying to repair the sound, I make defect the pulseaudio, any help ?
[20:32] <N3sh_> oh yeah, I know that
[20:32] <N3sh_> let me try
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: I tried to help last time, I'm not very good at sound issues, never had an issue
[20:32] <N3sh_> yeah the same :P
[20:32] <N3sh_> I call it unet
[20:32] <N3sh_> I use that
[20:33] <TLoFP> hi, how can I prevent sudoers from changing root password?
[20:33] <Robdude> Is there no way to delete the partition metadata (and restore it later) so the drive would appear unformatted, or something similar
[20:33] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Looks like Ubuntu's iso images don't contain an EFI System Partition, and so just dding to a USB drive won't get you a [U]EFI bootable drive. I've been meaning to see if unetbootin actually makes proper UEFI bootable drives for a long time but have still haven't gotten to it :(
[20:33] <MoonLove>  please  help no sound, and pulseaudio don't start
[20:34] <N3sh_> yeah
[20:34] <N3sh_> I am trying to bot it now and it says 'invalid EFI file path' (from GRUB)
[20:35] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: To increase the chances of Unetbooin working, first use GParted to change the USB drive's disk label to GPT (rather than msdos) using the "Create new partition table" option, then create a single fat32 partition and make it a UEFI System Partition.
[20:35] <N3sh_> the thing is that I could install Debian
[20:35] <N3sh_> without any problem
[20:35] <N3sh_> perhaps debian contains the EFI?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: you can define groups in sudoers to allow users to only be allowed to run some commands using sudo
[20:35] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: So you are at a grub-efi prompt currently?
[20:35] <N3sh_> well the Debian GRUB
[20:35] <N3sh_> I'm trying using chainloader +1
[20:35] <g1> MoonLove: Try by removing the folder ~/.pulse or ~/.config/pulse and restart the system
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: so you can give users a handfil of commands which doesn't include passwd and they won't be able to use it :-)
[20:35] <N3sh_> but it doesn't work
[20:36] <N3sh_> it says that the EFI is missing
[20:36] <N3sh_> like you said
[20:36] <TLoFP> ActionParsnip, won't that prevent them from changing their own password?
[20:36] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: That won't work with UEFI, you need to provide chainloader with a path to an efi image. Except that the better solution is just to use configfile to load Ubuntu's grub.cfg
[20:37] <kleanchap> I am using Linux Mint (off shoot of Ubuntu).  Is there anywhere I can get some help with dnsmasq?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: make sure you have a terminal where you have ran: sudo -i  , so that you can repair the file as root. The sudoers file is very sensitive
[20:37] <N3sh_> so what do I do?
[20:37] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: So, first, make sure that you have ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso on a USB drive, created with Unetbootin. Make absolutely sure it's that image, you don't want 32 bit (unless you actually have 32 bit firmware, but that's unlikely so we'll not consider that possiblility at the moment...).
[20:37] <DJones> !mint | kleanchap
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> TLoFP: no as a user can change their own password without sudo, so the settings in sudoers wont impact
[20:37] <N3sh_> I have 64bit
[20:37] <N3sh_> no worries
[20:38] <N3sh_> Im going to use unet and install it on the drive and update you
[20:38] <N3sh_> give me 5/10 min
[20:38] <N3sh_> the iso is almost here
[20:38] <MoonLove> gl how can I remove this folder ? with which commands?
[20:38] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: how about the GPT partition?
[20:38] <g1> MoonLove: rm -rf should do
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: have you tried a different distribution like Mandriva / Fedora / Debian to see if you get sound there?
[20:39] <MoonLove> gl rm -rf foldername          ?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> g1: if you killall pulseaudio , you can remove the folders.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Not needed since you already have a working grub-efi to start from. GPT would only help if you needed to boot the computer directly from USB, rather than through grub.
[20:39] <g1> MoonLove: Yep. BTW you've never got it working or did it suddenly stop working?
[20:39] <N3sh_> remember that the GRUB is the Debian grub of the previous installation
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* ~/.config/pulse*
[20:40] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: That's fine.
[20:40] <N3sh_> so I have rEFIt then I select the efi/grub and I get that
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g1: ^
[20:40] <MoonLove> ActionParsnip  no, only ubuntu, my first linux install :)
[20:40] <N3sh_> ok
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> g1: you don't need force
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: may be worth experimenting with others to test
[20:40] <g1> ActionParsnip: Yeah. Recursive is enough
[20:41] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who helped me out last night, I took a break and got some sleep and did the BIOS update a minute ago, now its reporting 4.8 g Memory
[20:41] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: installing 'ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso' on my USB using unet
[20:41] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> Never had this much RAM before...lol
[20:43] <flexus> MoonLove: pulseaudio -k
[20:43] <flexus> MoonLove: search for "norespawn"
[20:44] <TimeVirus> I would like to DL Ubuntu but this laptop has serious trouble with the Unity DE - I would like to know weather Gnome 2 or 3 would be okay. How would I go about getting Ubuntu for this machine?
[20:44] <Naphatul> does this look ok for a raid 1 setup? https://bpaste.net/show/e0e0611c4153
[20:44] <bekks> ThaSwapMeetPimp: 4.8G? Which DIMMs do you use there?
[20:44] <MoonLove> flexus where should I search?
[20:44] <pipipipi> hi
[20:45] <TimeVirus> google?
[20:45] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:45] <Naphatul> fstab here : https://bpaste.net/show/27dea3f6cd67
[20:45] <bekks> TimeVirus: Install Ubuntu, install the desktop environment you like.
[20:45] <flexus> MoonLove: if you want to reinstall pulse and get rid of all settings first set "norespawn" in pulse
[20:45] <flexus> or purge pulse
[20:45] <flexus> apt-get purge
[20:46] <TimeVirus> I'm at the Ubuntu home page
[20:46] <DJones> TimeVirus: Try Lubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu as an alternative
[20:46] <MoonLove> flexus how set "norespawn"?
[20:46] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> I have 3 1 gig and 1 2 gig, I dont know what you mean by DIMMS necessarily
[20:46] <TimeVirus> KDE?
[20:46] <TimeVirus> I've got Lubuntu and its too thin
[20:46] <DJones> TimeVirus: Kubuntu is KDE, Lubuntu is LXDE and Xubuntu is XFCE
[20:46] <TimeVirus> too ....
[20:46] <Naphatul> here's the array aswell: https://bpaste.net/show/64bb56df4134
[20:46] <TimeVirus> ah i c
[20:46] <g1> TimeVirus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[20:47] <TimeVirus> ok
[20:47] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: completed. Now trying to boot it...
[20:47] <flexus> MoonLove:  /etc/pulse/client.conf, autospawn=no
[20:47] <TimeVirus> very nice guys thanks for the tips
[20:48] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: now it looks like it's recognized....
[20:48] <N3sh_> let's see
[20:49] <MoonLove> flexus i deleted /etc/pulse
[20:49] <flexus> rm -r ?
[20:49] <flexus> *open hand*
[20:49] <flexus> *shrug*
[20:49] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> man everything is moving quick now, hey my swap is only 8 gigs, I cant really resize the partition cause I dont have enough room to backup the files from the partition I would need to take room from (and dont really have the room for that anyways) on my 3TB external, should it still function fine with an 8 gig swap using 5 g ram?
[20:50] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: it's actually all black, after I selected 'Install'
[20:50] <MoonLove> flexus pulseaudio can not be found
[20:50] <TimeVirus> I've heard there are a # of problems with 14.10 and so I'm thinking 14.04 is probably for me is this wise? I can update to 14.10 if I fell brave yes?
[20:50] <ThaSwapMeetPimp> not my external, my system
[20:50] <TimeVirus> feel*
[20:51] <squinty> TimeVirus: yes
[20:51] <TimeVirus> cool then
[20:51] <flexus> MoonLove: didnt you want that?
[20:52] <MoonLove> flexus I tried to repair my sound, I have no sound, at all, with envy24...any help?
[20:52] <flexus> MoonLove: sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio sudo apt-get install pulseaudio
[20:52] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you boot directly from the USB drive or via Debian's grub? If the former, did you boot it via EFI or via BIOS?
[20:52] <flexus> &&
[20:53] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I tried to boot it directly from the USB (it showed up now as EFI Boot)
[20:53] <MarcGuayUp> Hi folks.  I had a problem the other day with my system drive and managed to back up the /home/ folder before the drive crapped out.
[20:53] <N3sh_> but after asking if I wanted to try it or install
[20:53] <N3sh_> it went all black
[20:53] <N3sh_> it gave me an error before
[20:53] <N3sh_> let me try again
[20:53] <MarcGuayUp> I've got a new install up and running now, is it cool to just copy the home dir backup over the new one?
[20:54] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: could not open "\EFI\BOOT\failback
[20:54] <MoonLove> flexus [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[20:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: I don't understand. When do you get that error message?
[20:54] <N3sh_> now I am in the ubuntu GRUB from the USB stick
[20:54] <MoonLove> flexus and other error messages...
[20:54] <N3sh_> when I boot from USB
[20:54] <N3sh_> now I can either Try, Install OEM or Check
[20:55] <N3sh_> if I go for Install it just hangs
[20:56] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: move to the "try" entry and press 'e' to edit it. Then remove the words "quiet splash" and press ctrl+X to boot your modified entry.
[20:56] <MoonLove> flexus Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="1" card_name="alsa_card.1" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[20:57] <TimeVirus> can I install an Ubuntu to my external HDD and have grub on a USB Flash drive? You see, this laptop has trouble booting an external HDD but no trouble at all with a flash drive - it has nothing to do with HDD spin-up times either
[20:57] <squinty> MoonLove:  sent this yesterday but not sure if you saw it  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/oneiric/mudita24/    to see if it is available in your repo's type (or copy/paste)  apt-cache search mudita24
[20:57] <TimeVirus> I dont get why this trouble exists but it does
[20:57] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: black
[20:58] <N3sh_> oooh
[20:58] <TimeVirus> use the flash drive pick the drive to boot from kind of thing
[20:58] <bekks> TimeVirus: Is your laptop able to boot from an USB HDD at all?
[20:58] <N3sh_> now something is coming up
[20:58] <N3sh_> last thing: fb: conflicting fb hw usage nouveaufb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver
[20:58] <flexus> MoonLove: did you reinstall pulse?
[20:59] <TimeVirus> it does yes but I have to use Boot-Repair-Disk before each try if you know what I mean
[20:59] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Yes you can, but we can probably get you working with just the external spinning rust. What happens when you try to boot from the external?
[20:59] <MoonLove> flexus YES
[20:59] <N3sh_> and that's it from the moment, Jordan_U
[20:59] <TimeVirus> lol
[20:59] <bekks> TimeVirus: I have no clue what you mean.
[20:59] <MoonLove> flexus with purge and install
[20:59] <flexus> MoonLove: give full output
[20:59] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Keep waiting, hopefully you'll get a Desktop eventually.
[20:59] <TimeVirus> Jordan_U, you and I have been over this a few times with no success
[21:00] <N3sh_> it seems to just not work anymore
[21:00] <N3sh_> the cursor is not blinking
[21:00] <bekks> TimeVirus: From what I can read, it soubds like you always have to "repair" your installation on the USB HDD, but always install grub to the wrong device.
[21:00] <MoonLove> flexus pulseaudio
[21:00] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] module-alsa-card.c: Failed to find a working profile.
[21:00] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="1" name="1" card_name="alsa_card.1" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[21:00] <N3sh_> just like with Debian
[21:00] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Refresh my memory :)
[21:00] <TimeVirus> bekks no it gets installed to the external HDD each time
[21:00] <flexus> MoonLove: restart pulse
[21:01] <MoonLove> squinty   my card is ice1724 and this dont woerks
[21:01] <MoonLove> flexus how?
[21:01] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I'll got to take a shower and come back. What do I do if it's still stuck?
[21:01] <TimeVirus> lemme see if I can find my pastebins
[21:01] <bekks> TimeVirus: Then it wouldnt be necessary to repair it all the time.
[21:01] <N3sh_> we got SO close!
[21:01] <flexus> pulseaudio --start
[21:02] <MoonLove> flexus now pulseaudio
[21:02] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[21:02] <MoonLove> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Απέτυχε το pa_pid_file_create().
[21:02] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: If this fails we can try booting it via BIOS.
[21:02] <TimeVirus> bah
[21:03] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I'll try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/169912/fb-conflicting-fb-hw-usage-inteldrmfb-vs-efi-vga-removing-generic-driver
[21:03] <TimeVirus> my bookmarks are elsewhere on the internal
[21:03] <N3sh_> as it really seems stuck
[21:04] <flexus> MoonLove: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:04] <MoonLove> flexus Απέτυχε=failed
[21:04] <flexus> i dont speak kyrilic
[21:04] <ararob> shouldn't it be possible to automount an iso via fstab? i just couldn't get it to work, ended up autostarting a bash script that mounts it instead
[21:05] <MoonLove> flexus aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:05] <MoonLove> Playing Κυματομορφή '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Ρυθμός 48000 Hz, Mono
[21:05] <MoonLove> flexus but no sound :(
[21:05] <bekks> ararob: /home/USER/ISOFILE.iso /home/USER/ISOFILE_iso udf,iso9660 user,auto,loop 0 0
[21:05] <flexus> MoonLove: are speakers switched on ?
[21:06] <flexus> dont ask
[21:06] <ararob> bekks, that's exactly what i did, and it mounts it, but it tries to do it two times it seems
[21:06] <ararob> and the second mount gets stuck on the desktop
[21:06] <MoonLove> flexus yes in windos7 (dualboot) its OK
[21:07] <flexus> MoonLove: ok
[21:07] <jhutchins> MoonLove: If you preceed the command with LC_ALL=C the output will be in English - LC_ALL=C aplay /usr/share/shounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:07] <flexus> MoonLove: whats set in amixer?
[21:09] <MoonLove> flexus LC_ALL=C aplay /usr/share/shounds/alsa/Noise.wav
[21:09] <MoonLove> flexus  Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[21:09] <TimeVirus> when installing the Gnome Ubuntu onto my flashy so that I can make sure I have at least a live version ready to go I can use a 'persistence' file so that when I leave this wired connection to the repos my b43 wifi card will work, yes?
[21:10] <TimeVirus> yes ok
[21:10] <MoonLove> flexus amixer??? what is this?
[21:10] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: Yes.
[21:10] <squinty> MoonLove:  alsamixer
[21:11] <Jordan_U> TimeVirus: What happens when you try to boot from the external? Have you tried making a separate small /boot/ partition at the beginning of the spinning rust drive?
[21:11] <TimeVirus> lol
[21:11] <TimeVirus> no I havent tried doing that manually if thats what you mean
[21:12] <MoonLove> flexus with alsamixer -c 1    the card is set to MPU-401 UART
[21:13] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: nomodeset did the trick :O
[21:13] <TimeVirus> ok Jordan_U  if I try to boot that external HDD without first using Ubuntu's "Boot-Repair-Disk" utility first the boot will fail
[21:13] <TimeVirus> but if I do use the utility it works
[21:13] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Great. The only downside is that you won't have any GPU acceleration.
[21:13] <TimeVirus> until I need to go around again
[21:13] <jhutchins> TimeVirus: If you just do a regular filesystem install to the drive it will most likely run painfully slow.  You could investigate http://pendrivelinux.com/ for configurations that use squashfs and load to RAM for better speed.
[21:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Im installing this ONLY to use emulation station. I need some sort of graphics going on...
[21:14] <MoonLove> please, help no soun in ubuntu :)
[21:14] <TimeVirus> nice
[21:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: can I fix this after installing it?
[21:14] <MoonLove> please, help no sound in ubuntu :)
[21:14] <TimeVirus> I like that idea hutchins
[21:14] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Please stop repeating that.
[21:14] <jhutchins> MoonLove: You've been given DAYS of help.
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> MoonLove: grab the ISO for Fedora, use unetbootin and put it on a USB stick. Boot to it and try some sounds
[21:17] <TimeVirus> ok I must to go for now you guys have given me some good stuff to look into
[21:17] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Possibly. Let's see if booting via BIOS allows you to use the Radeon drivers though first. Please boot back into either Debain or Ubuntu's grub.
[21:17] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Im installing it on the disk atm
[21:17] <N3sh_> just to be done with it
[21:18] <N3sh_> once I got a running installation, I can download stuff
[21:20] <flexus> MoonLove: begin with that stuff: aplay -l ; aplay -L; cat /proc/asound/cards pavucontrol
[21:20] <MoonLove> flexus aplay -l
[21:20] <MoonLove> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[21:20] <MoonLove> compyuser@compy1:~$
[21:21] <MoonLove> flexus aplay -L
[21:21] <MoonLove> default
[21:21] <MoonLove>     Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
[21:21] <MoonLove> null
[21:21] <MoonLove>     Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
[21:21] <MoonLove> pulse
[21:21] <unopaste> MoonLove you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:24] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Man, you just don't learn, do you?
[21:25] <jhutchins> flexus: So we've been trying to troubleshoot alsa for three(?) days now, and suddenly we find out he's running pulse in front of it.
[21:26] <jhutchins> flexus: I have no idea how to troubleshoot pulse, all I've ever done is remove it.
[21:26] <MoonLove> jhutchins, 1 day, and i m a rookie :)
[21:27] <jhutchins> MoonLove: Everybody starts somewhere.  The trick is to learn as you go and not keep starting over from scratch.
[21:27] <flexus> jhutchins: i didnt watch too much, sorry
[21:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: back
[21:28] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: trying to launch Ubuntu
[21:28] <flexus> jhutchins: i am confused in MoonLoves problem
[21:28] <jhutchins> MoonLove: http://askubuntu.com/questions/462503/ubuntu-14-04-sound-suddenly-stopped-working-reboot-did-not-fix <- please read and see if any of that applies to your system.
[21:29] <jhutchins> MoonLove: An easy way to see if the problem is with pulse is to run lubuntu from a live CD (it doesn't use pulse).  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[21:30] <geoffmcc> on a VPS with 512mb ram should i use 32 or 64 bit. i know x64 will use a little more of the limited ram. Not sure if will improve performance
[21:30] <jhutchins> MoonLove: If that doesn't work, this should keep you busy for the rest of the day: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[21:30] <jhutchins> geoffmcc: What are you doing with it?
[21:31] <geoffmcc> jhutchins: webserver and node w/ node-red
[21:31] <daftykins> geoffmcc: 32-bit
[21:31] <daftykins> 512MB is terrible for that though
[21:32] <arun_> guys, is there ssl support on openssl in ircd-hybrid now for trusty?
[21:33] <geoffmcc> daftykins: web on one server, node on another, shouldnt 512 be okay?
[21:33] <daftykins> arun_: that sounds a little too specific a question to be useful asking here, why not locate a channel / website for said program?
[21:33] <daftykins> geoffmcc: dunno, not familiar with that
[21:35] <geoffmcc> daftykins: im confused then. what did u mean by "512mb is terrible for that though"?
[21:36] <daftykins> geoffmcc: nevermind.
[21:36] <arun_> !info ircd-hybrid
[21:36] <arun_> daftykins: ^^
[21:36] <daftykins> arun_: i don't see what point you're trying to make?
[21:37] <hroi> I did an update to my 14.04 couple of days ago
[21:37] <hroi> now I suspect my nvidia driver has been replaced
[21:37] <hroi> how can I check this?
[21:38] <daftykins> replaced with what?
[21:38] <daftykins> "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:38] <OerHeks> hroi, how did you install that nvidia driver?
[21:38] <daftykins> (pastebinit will need to be installed)
[21:38] <jhutchins> flexus: MoonLove was getting no sound, but everythign seemed to be working in alsa.  Didn't mean to run him off, I hope those resources solve his problem.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: And?
[21:39] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: Ubuntu is up an running. No 3D acceleration (sadness) and no wireless (double-sadness)
[21:39] <N3sh_> working on the wireless drivers right now
[21:39] <jhutchins> arun_: I would expect the answer to your question to be in either the changelog or the documentation.
[21:39] <OerHeks> jhutchins, Moonlove was here yesterday too, he did so much tweaks/fixes that i wonder if new fixes will work.
[21:39] <N3sh_> I seem unlucky with this and the b43 don't work with my mac
[21:39] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you try the Additional Drivers tool?
[21:40] <hroi> daftykins, OerHeks :  thanks, heres my dpkg output :   http://pastebin.com/4QgXQaFX
[21:40] <daftykins> ok so nvidia-331
[21:40] <jhutchins> OerHeks: Everybody who helped him earlier seemed to be focused on alsa - I don't know if he said he wasn't running pulse or why we overlooked that, but it turns out he is.
[21:41] <hroi> daftykins, do you think my system updated to 331 from some older version?
[21:42] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: no because Im offline atm
[21:42] <hroi> daftykins,  here's my Xorg log:   http://pastebin.com/nYzvDDNQ
[21:43] <rooisto47> I'm trying to get an epson all-in-one (stylus DX7450) I found this interesting thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167119 but one of the link to the driver is dead, so I can't find it :s can you help me ?
[21:43] <daftykins> hroi: sadly my crystal ball hasn't been despatched from Canonical yet, so i have no idea of looking into the past to work out what you were running before.
[21:43] <rooisto47> *get it to work of course
[21:43] <hroi> daftykins, :) ok sorry
[21:43] <daftykins> hroi: seems to be working just fine though, is there an actual problem?
[21:44] <jhutchins> rooisto47: I don't have a multifunction device myself, but what I've seen work in the past is xsane for the scanner function and cups for the printer.
[21:44] <flexus> jhutchins: didnt see the full aplay -l output
[21:44] <jhutchins> rooisto47: Treat them like separate devices.
[21:45] <rooisto47> jhutchins, "xsane" let me give that a look, thank you
[21:45] <hroi> daftykins, I'm using the CUDA processing on my nvidia card... after upgrade it is not available to the software I use
[21:46] <hroi> daftykins, that is blender -- possible it is a blender issue
[21:46] <namidark> when running ` apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install apt ` (for example), manually on the command line it works, however when running it from a script it fails saying "dpkg: error: need an action option" - any ideas?
[21:46] <zaxxi> will sleep 999999 in rc.local block booting or is it threaded?
[21:46] <hroi> daftykins, that is blender -- possible it is a blender issue
[21:46] <jhutchins> hroi: If the kernel got upgraded you may need to re-install the nvidia drivers (not sure how ubuntu handles that).
[21:46] <hroi> jhutchins, ok
[21:47] <hroi> jhutchins, I should be able to revert to maybe a more older nvidia version
[21:47] <daftykins> hroi: might be missing some libraries that match up with that driver version, maybe have a quick look at CUDA with v331
[21:47] <daftykins> jhutchins: rather than throwing guesses out there, you could see above that everything is working just fine from logs ;)
[21:47] <anon_> can you guys direct me to a solution of cracking keyring in xubuntu - i received a giveaway that seems to be a onion os monitoring turner corp
[21:49] <anon_> it is a leftover machine from lazytown and  it has several monitoring apps installed
[21:49] <bekks> anon_: Ask the person who has the password for that keyring.
[21:50] <OerHeks> cracking keyring, asked by
[21:51] <OerHeks> anon?
[21:51] <anon_> cannot be contacted - is in us at the moment - his setup on this machine sounds impressive but i am unable to cat logs to verify he does not posess sensitive info
[21:51] <hroi> daftykins, ok thanks... best bet is to reinstall nvidia thanks!
[21:52] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: anyway, the additional drivers didn't seem to say anything
[21:52] <anon_> please note that - live cd chroot method to change root has worked so far - although i have a mismatch in xubuntu keyring
[21:52] <anon_> any workaround
[21:52] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: do you know how to fix the graphic card problem? I'd like to have a 3D acc
[21:52] <bekks> anon_: No.
[21:52] <daftykins> hroi: lol no, nvidia 331 is working fine. you want to look up CUDA :)
[21:53] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Let's try booting the LiveUSB via BIOS and see if it has acceleration.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[21:53] <N3sh_> that's what I did before, right?
[21:53] <N3sh_> the problem appeared on Debian
[21:54] <anon_> so by "popular opinion" keyring can not be reset with pass modification
[21:54] <ChrisP1948> Well, kernel is updated - Linux localhost 3.14.0-031400-generic #201403310035 SMP Mon Mar 31 04:36:23 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux now to see what happens.
[21:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: No, Debian was clearly installed via UEFI as you had a grub-efi shell.
[21:54] <N3sh_> btw, now I have like 4 grubs to select from :P
[21:54] <imbezol> mmm grubs
[21:54] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Ready for a 5th? :)
[21:55] <N3sh_> lol, hopefully I can remove them without much of a big deal
[21:55] <N3sh_> at the moment I'll fix the wireless
[21:55] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: I'm leaving soon.
[21:56] <daftykins> hroi: check you have "nvidia-libopencl1-331" installed
[21:56] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: :( :(
[21:56] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: isn't just because of the drivers?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Back in the old days from which your machine comes, graphics drivers couldn't handle booting via EFI well, while drivers have been since updated and the situation is if anything now reversed, maybe the code paths for this particular old GPU still have issues with not having BIOS.
[22:01] <N3sh_> btw, even debian was booting via EFI
[22:01] <N3sh_> ok let's try with the Live again
[22:01] <N3sh_> how do I boot it from BIOS?
[22:06] <xclown> h
[22:06] <xclown> hi
[22:08] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: have you gone already?
[22:14] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: thanks a lot anyway :) I think the additional drivers woke up and now it gave me some drivers for the graphic card, yay :)
[22:16] <arun_> !info ircd-hybrid
[22:16] <jhutchins> Jordan_U: I was putting grub (CentOS5) on Mac Minis when they went to Intel & EFI, didn't have graphics issues.
[22:17] <rooisto47> jhutchins, thanks bro :D it works perfectly!
[22:17] <rooisto47> xsane for epson dx7450 scanner
[22:17] <jhutchins> rooisto47: Great!
[22:17] <jhutchins> rooisto47: That way you don't have to worry about the manfacturer mainting a driver for new kernels.
[22:18] <rooisto47> wow, actually I didn't even worried about the driver itself
[22:24] <MasterPiece> Hello, I have a bad HW conflict right now! and I'm very interested to know for what and how to fix it!
[22:24] <MasterPiece> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564018/
[22:25] <Zebra111> !nouveau | MasterPiece
[22:26] <daftykins> MasterPiece: "lspci | pastebinit" ?
[22:27] <MasterPiece> Zebra111, I know a little about nouveau :) Thanks man
[22:27] <MasterPiece> daftykins, here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564036/
[22:28] <daftykins> MasterPiece: so did anything actually happen or did you just find that error in your first paste?
[22:28] <Zebra111> Sorry masterpiece I thought !$nouveau would be more useful, oops
[22:29] <daftykins> Zebra111: sometimes i trigger a factoid in PM to check it before directing it to a user ;)
[22:29] <MasterPiece> Zebra111, nop ;)
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> MasterPiece: tried the bootoption: nouveau.blacklist=1
[22:30] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: leaving the system with no driver but vesa? bit of a novel plan...
[22:30] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Yeah, I deal with hanging everything in my desktop and freezes anything! Even the mouse and the Keys , Then I have two choices 1. wait about 5 min to restart session and 2. restart physically ! :D
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: yeah, then install proprietary
[22:30] <daftykins> MasterPiece: give one of the proprietary nvidia drivers a go.
[22:31] <MasterPiece> ActionParsnip, Thanks, I'll try it in next restart :D
[22:31] <daftykins> MasterPiece: just try another driver, nouveau blacklisting is pointless
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: there is madness in my method
[22:31] <daftykins> hah, that part i can agree with
[22:32] <MasterPiece> I'll be back soon ;)
[22:36] <namidark> when running ` apt-get -y -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confdef" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" install apt ` (for example), manually on the command line it works, however when running it from a script it fails saying "dpkg: error: need an action option" - any ideas?
[22:44] <eN_Joy> on average process ksoftirqd/1 takes 10% cpu, should i worry about it?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> namidark: I'd ask in #bash
[22:44] <namidark> ActionParsnip: thanks i will
[22:47] <EriC^^> eN_Joy: yes
[22:47] <EriC^^> i think
[22:48] <chr1stopher> atm i run windows 7 and fedora 21 in parallel, now i am thinking of replacing fedora with ubuntu. if i just "remove" my linux partitions and try to install ubuntu will the "bootloader" still automatically add my windows installation?
[22:48] <EriC^^> eN_Joy: it seems not after googling
[22:48] <daftykins> chr1stopher: probably yep, otherwise boot-repair afterwards
[22:48] <eN_Joy> EriC^^: okay then, yeah at least it's causing my keystroke somewhat sluggish
[22:49] <chr1stopher> daftykins: so i can remove all partitions only keep the ntfs one?
[22:49] <daftykins> chr1stopher: with 7 there are likely two
[22:49] <chr1stopher> daftykins: this small one with 100-500 MB, or?
[22:50] <MasterPiece> Please tell me "Where I should add boot option?" please, I add it into the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT (see: http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/176) and I deal with ignoring due to unknown parameter ( see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564171/ ), Thanks :)
[22:50] <daftykins> MasterPiece: don't waste your time with that, just install an nvidia driver.
[22:50] <chr1stopher> daftykins: ah i got one large ntfs and one ntfs with 105 MB
[22:50] <MasterPiece> !nvidia
[22:51] <daftykins> chr1stopher: you could just boot an ubuntu flash drive, select install, select "something else" then pick your existing Linux partitions and select to format them.
[22:51] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Thanks :) , but I curious about it :D
[22:51] <daftykins> MasterPiece: about what? in what way?
[22:52] <MasterPiece> daftykins, about why nouveau have conflicts and "How to add the boot option and where"
[22:52] <chr1stopher> daftykins: yes that s what i am just thinking to do. if i want to get rid later of windows can i just "delete the partitions" with disks or something and increase my ubuntu partitions?
[22:53] <daftykins> chr1stopher: not really that easily, no
[22:53] <daftykins> MasterPiece: ok, well you wouldn't enter them as a permanent choice... you'd try them once to start with. have a look here and use the same principle...
[22:53] <daftykins> !nomodeset | MasterPiece It's a mistake though.
[22:54] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: how big is the windows partition?
[22:54] <chr1stopher> 70gb the main and the small one 105mb
[22:54] <chr1stopher> i am just thinking if i try to use windows in a VM
[22:54] <chr1stopher> only need it for photoshop, illustrator and indesign sometimes
[22:55] <Guest51929> I just started using Ubuntu yesterday after installing crouton on my Acer Chromebook 11... Are there any idiosyncrasies I need to be aware of? Where would I find out?
[22:55] <MasterPiece> daftykins, Thanks man :) You took me a great answer ;) Thanks in advanced again :)
[22:55] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: i've no experience with that, but i'd think you'd want to run those natively
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest51929: do you mean like gotchas?
[22:56] <chr1stopher> EriC^^: hm that s what i thought till now as well. but it makes me angry ... clean install of windows 7 had around 30gb, after all windows updates + drivers -> 40 gb
[22:57] <chr1stopher> EriC^^: so i would try windows 8.1 now because i think it needs a little bit less space, but maybe my older versions of the adobe software will make trouble then
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chr1stopher: yeah the space used by windows always makes me shocked.
[22:58] <daftykins> trust me 8 will be a bad move :)
[22:58] <chr1stopher> ActionParsnip: it s really horrible ... 70GB of my ssd in use only for 3 apps
[22:58] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: win8 is less resource hoggy than win7
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> chr1stopher: my / is 4Gb and does all the web amd media playing you can need...
[22:58] <EriC^^> chr1stopher: it'll probably be better
[22:59] <chr1stopher> daftykins: why? because of all the UI things? i can ignore that for the few hours i ll use it ;D
[22:59] <chr1stopher> and if i ll use a VM i am more flexible with the used space
[22:59] <daftykins> chr1stopher: nah, the size. multiple gigabyte updates on a clean install
[22:59] <daftykins> anyway, i'm being off topic
[22:59] <chr1stopher> daftykins: you think it s worse to use 8.1 than 7?
[23:00] <stobix_> If I update 13.10 to 14.10, will it eat up my windows partition? 14.04 alledgedly has this problem.
[23:00] <daftykins> you're still on 13.10? damn
[23:00] <chr1stopher> ah i ll just do it now ;D thanks for the tips ^^
[23:00] <daftykins> backup and you won't have a problem
[23:00] <EriC^^> stobix_: first time i've ever heard about this
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> stobix_: you will need to upgrade to 14.04 in between unless you do a clean install
[23:01] <stobix_> daftykins: yeah. I read the bugs for 14.04 and saw that I might loose everything on my work computer. I meh'd out.
[23:01] <jairodealmeida> hi guys, how to display stylized log, for exemple sudo tail -f /var/log/tomcat7/catalina.out
[23:01] <Bashing-om> stobix_: Are you in reference to this one : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1265192 ?
[23:01] <jairodealmeida> styled log is colorized log terminal output =)
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: does your user not have read access to the file?
[23:01] <stobix_> ubottu: yeah, that.
[23:02] <stobix_> Bashing-om: yeah, that.
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i think that refers to the installer's install/reinstall feature
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i actually wiped my drive due to that bug :)
[23:02] <Bashing-om> stobix_: I have not checked lately .. Let's see what " Fix committed " means .
[23:02] <EriC^^> stobix_: i sincerely doubt that a do-release-upgrade will erase any partitions
[23:02] <stobix_> EriC^^: ... sounds...comforting... O_O
[23:03] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: yes have access, but not stylized, can i know boult a terminal log tool
[23:03] <jairodealmeida> for developers
[23:03] <stobix_> EriC^^: Yeah, it would make no sense whatsoever if it did. Bugs not always do, though.
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: no, I'm askimg is you can use tail as your user...tail with sudo seems weird
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: what is the output of: ls -l /var/logtomcat7/catalina.out
[23:04] <stobix_> Bashing-om: I think they might have it in 14.10, and will include it in 14.04 Any Day Now™ (at least before 15.04. Or something like that.)
[23:04] <EriC^^> stobix_: the bug was that, i installed ubuntu first next to windows, then i tried to reinstall it, and pressing reinstall ubuntu wiped everything and reinstalled it alone
[23:05] <EriC^^> stobix_: i've never heard of anyone's partitions being deleted when upgrading though
[23:05] <stobix_> EriC^^: Ah. Hm. Might be worth a shot, then.
[23:06] <jairodealmeida> -rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat7 adm 1048158 Dez 18 20:56 /var/log/tomcat7/catalina.out
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: then you don't need sudo. Every single user on the sytem has read access
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: can you see that feom the output?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: I found this in seconds using websearching:
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8414/how-to-have-tail-f-show-colored-output
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: you don't need sudo, you can even read it as guest account
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/8414/how-to-have-tail-f-show-colored-output
[23:08] <stobix_> EriC^^: I just realized why I thought this might be a problem to begin with. On the ubuntu upgrade page, there is a troubleshooting section that points to the release notes. The release notes has the bug listed.
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> ActionParsnip: this article halps
[23:08] <jairodealmeida> helps
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jairodealmeida: using sudo when its not needed can damage your sytem. Not every command in terminal needs prefixing with sudo
[23:10] <argoneus> hello
[23:10] <argoneus> I want to give a single user on my machine access to a single apache config file
[23:10] <daftykins> hi.
[23:10] <argoneus> how can I do that?
[23:11] <argoneus> I don't want to add him to the apache group, then he could fubar everything if he got mad at me
[23:11] <EriC^^> stobix_: here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes ?
[23:12] <EriC^^> argoneus: add him as a acl
[23:12] <stobix_> EriC^^: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades <-- there
[23:12] <argoneus> is acl hard to set up?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: who is the group owner and user owner of the log file?
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: not really
[23:12] <EriC^^> argoneus: setfacl -m u:<user>:rw /path/to/file
[23:12] <argoneus> oh
[23:12] <argoneus> nice, thanks
[23:12] <mikeylikesit0475> I loaded ubuntu studio for the first time and when I closed out, my computer settings changed. I can't add workspaces and I cant add icons to the desktop. What just happened?
[23:13] <bazhang> !studio
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> argoneus: you can use groups to grant access too
[23:16] <EriC^^> sybariten: see that's the release notes of trusty which has the bug Bashing-om referred to ( my bug ) but it has nothing to do with upgrading
[23:17] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Is your graphics card working now?
[23:18] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: not really. Now it doesn't even work with nomodeset...
[23:19] <N3sh_> It gave me 5 drivers, I selected the first Nvidia driver {proprietary, tested}
[23:19] <N3sh_> and Broadcom Airport (the only one available)
[23:19] <N3sh_> and now it just gets stuck with a blinking cursor
[23:20] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: OK, let's try booting via BIOS.
[23:20] <mac_> hy,, can someone help me put with informacion? about ati graphic card hd3470.. is it still supported?
[23:20] <Jordan_U> N3sh_: Did you already run "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"?
[23:21] <EriC^^> stobix_: i think this pertains to upgrading via the installer, just noticed it's in the upgrade section as well, if you're doing a do-release-upgrade i think you should be fine
[23:21] <daftykins> mac_: no
[23:21] <mac_> is not ?
[23:21] <EriC^^> stobix_: otherwise you'd probably be better off with manual partitioning
[23:22] <mac_> daftykins, can u help me out? to fix it?
[23:22] <daftykins> mac_: AMD 4xxx series and before are legacy and cannot be used with fglrx on Ubuntu, they can be used with the open source radeon driver however
[23:22] <daftykins> mac_: fix what?
[23:22] <mac_> ow.. usually after latetst updates i stay in dark
[23:22] <mac_> now got other pc, and fresh installed 12.04
[23:22] <mac_> lts
[23:23] <daftykins> why so old?
[23:23] <mac_> graphic?
[23:23] <mac_> is inside laptop.. :S
[23:23] <daftykins> no, picking 12.04
[23:23] <mac_> didnt want to stay in dark.. :-S
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: its still supported and has Uniry2D :-)
[23:24] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: i know this.
[23:24] <mac_> are new ones capable to run ati hd 3470
[23:24] <daftykins> even 12.04 updated has to use the open source driver 'radeon'
[23:24] <daftykins> so just try it out
[23:25] <mac_> ok.. if not.. see us after fresh install again ;-)
[23:25] <mac_> thank u
[23:25] <stobix_> EriC^^: Ah. Good. I'll stick to the trusty old terminal, then.
[23:25] <daftykins> mac_: just boot a 14.04.1 live session and see how it goes
[23:25] <mac_> ow.. i dont have it yet... need to go to other pc.. to burn it
[23:26] <daftykins> flash drives are a billion times better than optical media for live sessions :)
[23:26] <mac_> do i need to first check for updates, install, lather upgrade?
[23:27] <daftykins> mac_: the installer might offer to install updates during
[23:27] <stobix_> EriC^^: Yeah. Wouldn't have it any other way anyways.
[23:27] <daftykins> i tend to avoid that
[23:27] <mac_> ok.. see us lather
[23:28] <JU1CE> Is there a particular issue with ASUS P8H61-M motherboards and Ubuntu? I'm having USB issues, and can't find anything useful with the Googles.
[23:28] <daftykins> !details | JU1CE
[23:29] <JU1CE> Thanks.... un momento por favor
[23:29] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: not yet. I also lost the wireless drivers.
[23:29] <N3sh_> let's see if I can boot something without graphics
[23:30] <N3sh_> p.s. in recovery it boots
[23:30] <ibjoe> #mediawiki
[23:30] <daftykins> ibjoe: "/join #mediawiki"
[23:30] <JU1CE> So I have Ubuntu 14.10 installed. USB isn't working worth a damn, which is strange because I have a Logitech wireless KB/Mouse that work fine. Anything else I plug into the USB or card reader doesn't register. I have tried booting to BIOS with no luck, because Ubuntu is taking over the boot process, and I can't find a reliable key combo to get to BIOS.
[23:31] <daftykins> JU1CE: plug something in then run "dmesg | tail" and put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com so we can see
[23:31] <daftykins> ubuntu does not take over the boot process :P likely your USB keyboard just isn't helping matters
[23:32] <JU1CE> Well that's odd.... this issue has been going on for months, and I just plugged in a USB stick and it worked fine.
[23:32] <daftykins> i have that effect on things ;)
[23:32] <acovrig> what could cause an iptables -v -t nat -L to take a long time? Usually I've seen it return in seconds, but with a specific system, it seems to always take ~2-6min
[23:33] <JU1CE> I Googled everything I could think of for weeks on this.
[23:33] <daftykins> JU1CE: try some other devices too, then?
[23:33] <daftykins> acovrig: #ubuntu-server might be more relevant
[23:34] <acovrig> daftykins, thanks
[23:34] <JU1CE> SD reader still isn't registering.
[23:34] <daftykins> pastebin the command i mentioned
[23:37] <JU1CE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564512/
[23:37] <JU1CE> daftykins, ^^
[23:37] <daftykins> heh, that disk capacity change didn't look good
[23:37] <daftykins> JU1CE: install "pastebinit" then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[23:38] <JU1CE> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564523/
[23:39] <daftykins> 32GB 0o is that the size of a card in it?
[23:40] <tnkhanh> hi what .bashrc file can I use for both normal user and root
[23:40] <daftykins> i wonder why your sdb disappeared
[23:40] <tnkhanh> I mean the .bashrc that run on any user
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: its what terminal runs when you run it. You can specify personal aliases and variables
[23:41] <JU1CE> daftykins, I plugged my phone into it. I think it's 16Gb.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: there is a bash config file in /etc that affects all users
[23:41] <JU1CE> Oh! The 32 is an SD card.
[23:42] <daftykins> JU1CE: looks like it just doesn't have any partitions/data on this 32GB card then
[23:42] <tnkhanh> ActionParsnip: thanks. I will try
[23:42] <JU1CE> Okay.... any idea why my phone isn't showing up?
[23:42] <JU1CE> I'll try to do something with the SD real quick to get something going with it.
[23:43] <kantlivelong> hey all. im having a weird issue where my laptops internal mic stops working randomly. restarting pulseaudio fixes it. levels in alsamixer are correct. any ideas?
[23:44] <JU1CE> I formatted and ran the parted -l | pastebinit. Here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564543/
[23:45] <N3sh_> Jordan_U: I got a root bash
[23:45] <dean_> hello I'm running linux mint right now on my lap top, but I just downloaded ubuntu and moved the download to a usb, I'm just wondering if anyone could tell me how to install it from the usb
[23:45] <daftykins> JU1CE: phones are MTP these days, so you'd have a different style of view if it's even supported as is. what version are you running? both in number and in xu/lu/ku/ubuntu
[23:45] <N3sh_> can I remove/change the driver I installed?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[23:45] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: one sec
[23:45] <daftykins> JU1CE: i'm not convinced about your format!
[23:46] <daftykins> JU1CE: re-run "dmesg | tail" with the phone in perhaps
[23:46] <squinty> dean_:  use mint's usb maker or unetbootin or check out  pendrivelinux.com
[23:46] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=95e751d016f7579354a79b35107b4b533d41a22f
[23:46] <JU1CE> 14.10 Ubuntu, updates are current.
[23:46] <dgarstang> client side ldap... nsswitch.conf, ldap.conf, server cert... what else is there?
[23:46] <JU1CE> Minus the release update, obviously.
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: mint isn't supported here
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !mint | kantlivelong
[23:47] <kantlivelong> ugh. its the same damn backend
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: your distribution is supported there
[23:47] <kantlivelong> :/
[23:47] <daftykins> kantlivelong: nope.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: its not ubutu, so isn't supported by the Ubuntu community
[23:47] <frequark> is there no flash included in chromium browser?
[23:47] <daftykins> frequark: install pepperflash
[23:47] <JU1CE> This is with the phone plugged in: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564566/
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> frequark: not by default
[23:48] <tnkhanh> do people still use other shells than bash?
[23:48] <dany> CCIRC
[23:48] <tnkhanh> is it ok if I stick to bash shell for the rest of my life? :s
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: I have a few friends who use zsh
[23:48] <daftykins> JU1CE: hrmm, what revision of the motherboard is this?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> tnkhanh: I would but hats just my opinion
[23:49] <tnkhanh> ActionParsnip: Ic. thanks a bunch :D
[23:49] <JU1CE> daftykins, no idea. I have the box open, so I can look if you don't mind waiting a minute.
[23:49] <daftykins> JU1CE: go for it, should be in the usual white writing yip
[23:50] <JU1CE> daftykins, 1.0.1 ?!?!
[23:51] <JU1CE> daftykins, at least that's what's printed on it. Not sure if it was flashed before shipping. It came from BestBuy locally.
[23:51] <Pencil_> hello
[23:52] <daftykins> JU1CE: alright give us a full dmesg "dmesg > ~/file && pastebinit ~/file"
[23:53] <JU1CE> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9564604/
[23:54] <frequark> my wifi wont stay connected for more than 5 minutes, what should I do?
[23:54] <PrincessAuv> How do I get the fixed release of Git for Ubuntu?
[23:54] <PrincessAuv> Has it been released yet?
[23:54] <daftykins> JU1CE: definitely no extra letters after "P8H61-M" ? like LE, or PRO, or?
[23:54] <JU1CE> PRO
[23:55] <PrincessAuv> I mean by that has it been put in the repos
[23:58] <daftykins> JU1CE: ok, dmesg told me you're on a 3602 BIOS dated 02/20/2012 whilst the latest from Asus is 4802 dated 22nd May 2014, i can't guarantee this would change a thing but i'd boot back into Windows and give the update a go
[23:58] <JU1CE> Okay, that's worth a shot. I haven't booted into Windows in months... hopefully it still works ;)
[23:58] <daftykins> JU1CE: now i'm not sure how versed in hardware you are, but a BIOS update isn't without risk... so be sure you're comfortable with the idea before going ahead. and pull all USB junk out and just use a flash drive directly into USB v2.0 ports on the motherboard
[23:59] <JU1CE> Thanks a ton, daftykins. I'll try to catch you on the other side.
[23:59] <dgarstang> ldap... is sssd and/or nscld required?