| bluesabre | Unit193: vivid stable enough currently for me to run with it? | 00:00 |
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| Unit193 | bluesabre: I'm personally waiting until A1/after A1, which is right around the corner. | 00:02 |
| Noskcaj | bluesabre, I've been on vivid since it was first an option, everything is ok so far, but the gtk 3.14 update (due friday) might break stuff | 04:17 |
| Unit193 | Erp, yep waiting until a while after that. It's pretty fugly in Debian, TBH. | 04:20 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i've been on vivid for a while now and also been using gtk3.14. it's not great with 3.14, but it's okayish, i guess we'll get there (still waiting for the numix sass port to finish) | 07:25 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: making very slow and steady progress with the light-locker integration, but it should be a painless patch to apply once I finish | 10:22 |
| ochosi | cool! | 10:23 |
| bluesabre | was going to do a lot last night, but got pulled into packing boxes and talking | 10:23 |
| ochosi | i tried to make the glade-changes as little invasive as possible too | 10:23 |
| ochosi | i presume you weren't packing gtkboxes? | 10:23 |
| bluesabre | thats correct :) | 10:24 |
| ochosi | well it sounds like an enjoyable evening though | 10:24 |
| bluesabre | :) | 10:25 |
| bluesabre | we're getting pretty excited for the move for sure | 10:25 |
| ochosi | cool | 10:27 |
| ochosi | that's good to hear | 10:27 |
| ochosi | i hope everything goes smoothly | 10:27 |
| bluesabre | me too | 10:30 |
| ochosi | uh-oh, Laney just uploaded gtk3.14 | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | makes sense | 10:36 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: if you wanna push the latest version of greybird, that'd make it a tad smoother (although some stuff will still look bad) | 10:36 |
| ochosi | the indicators look really nasty without the patch | 10:36 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: remind me this evening :) | 10:36 |
| ochosi | well as soon as you'll install/try vivid, you'll be reminded automatically ;) | 10:37 |
| ochosi | but yeah, i might just do that | 10:37 |
| ochosi | elfy: whenever gtk3.14 lands in vivid (and it should soon), the current greybird-theming will fail (e.g. with indicators). if you want to test the fix for that, you can check the shimmerproject's daily PPA, where the fixed version of greybird sits | 13:57 |
| ochosi | note that there'll still be visual issues, but patching those up doesn't make too much sense since a rewrite is imminent | 13:57 |
| elfy | ochosi: I'm using shimmer daily anyway | 13:57 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 13:58 |
| elfy | :) | 13:58 |
| ochosi | well, at least now you explicitely know and if others have issues, you'll know what it's about ;) | 13:58 |
| ochosi | same with the icon theme btw | 13:58 |
| brainwash | did ubuntu fix these issues already? | 13:58 |
| ochosi | in the open-file dialog there was a missing icon, that's there in -daily already | 13:58 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - thanks | 13:59 |
| ochosi | brainwash: "these issues"? | 13:59 |
| brainwash | "visual issues" | 13:59 |
| ochosi | most of them are "normal" gtk3 breakage because of the version bump | 14:00 |
| ochosi | i suppose they've gone through their list of issues if they upload | 14:00 |
| brainwash | would it be possible to copy the changes? | 14:01 |
| ochosi | brainwash: "...patching those up doesn't make too much sense since a rewrite is imminent" | 14:09 |
| brainwash | a rewrite will magically fix it? | 14:10 |
| * knome facepalms | 14:10 | |
| knome | since gtk3 is in a constantly moving state, it makes no sense to fix it since it's likely that the fix is broken with the next gtk3 update | 14:11 |
| brainwash | that the reason why I asked if one could copy what the ubuntu devs did to make their themes work properly | 14:13 |
| knome | copying that would take time and effort, and it would be just as much in vain as simply doing the fix yourself | 14:20 |
| knome | there are better/more important tasks to spend time at... | 14:20 |
| knome | we will fix it for the release, whatever gtk3 version we are at at that point | 14:20 |
| brainwash | that's fine, so I won't bother and try to diff the themes | 14:25 |
| brainwash | this way I've found out why the button highlight did not work in the sound menu for greybird | 14:26 |
| brainwash | back then | 14:26 |
| brainwash | so, I'm just trying to help and not command people to fix everything asap | 14:27 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, but for now it seems all issues are gtk3.14 related and as i said, there's a port to SASS that we'll be doing most likely for 15.04 | 14:38 |
| ochosi | you're free to look into it ofc | 14:38 |
| === Unit193 is now known as JackFrost | ||
| pleia2 | 18 Dec 14 12:39 PM - Shipment delivered - SAN FRANCISCO,UNITED STATES OF AMERICA | 21:05 |
| pleia2 | amagad stickers | 21:05 |
| elfy | woohoo | 21:05 |
| * pleia2 goes to get | 21:05 | |
| ochosi | weee | 21:05 |
| knome | great! | 21:06 |
| elfy | lurkers awake !!! | 21:06 |
| elfy | pleia2 has some sort of super power lol | 21:07 |
| knome | mooo. | 21:07 |
| elfy | ha ha | 21:07 |
| ochosi | i guess she just happened to be the first person saying something interesting | 21:07 |
| elfy | lol | 21:07 |
| knome | or anything in th last hours. | 21:07 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: reminder: update greybird from git for 15.04 with gtk3.14 patches. thanks! | 21:07 |
| pleia2 | aww man, false alarm | 21:09 |
| pleia2 | different package (same unusual carrier) | 21:09 |
| knome | :D | 21:10 |
| ochosi | crap | 21:10 |
| knome | stupid carrier | 21:10 |
| ochosi | all the excitement for nothing! | 21:10 |
| knome | yes! | 21:10 |
| knome | this has to be the worst christmas ever! | 21:10 |
| pleia2 | on the bright side, my portable projector has arrived, aren't you happy? | 21:10 |
| elfy | ha ha | 21:10 |
| knome | pleia2, BOO | 21:10 |
| ochosi | pleia2: very. | 21:10 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 21:10 |
| * knome gets the rotten tomatoes out of the cellar closet | 21:11 | |
| dkessel | pleia2: ok, so how portable do portable projectors get these days? | 21:11 |
| knome | that reminds me... (follow up in #xubuntu-offtopic) | 21:11 |
| * ochosi considers to send pleia2 a package of surströmming labelled as "xubuntu stickers" | 21:11 | |
| dkessel | lol | 21:11 |
| dkessel | ochosi: are you sure you're going to get it sent to her? it might be classified as biological weapon | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | dkessel: for cheap, not very :) | 21:12 |
| pleia2 | I got this one http://www.lightinthebox.com/400lm-mini-hd-home-led-projector-with-super-bright-led-technology-pc-laptop-vga-usb-sd-hdmi-uc28-gold_p1508346.html | 21:13 |
| knome | ochosi, uhhh... not sure if they are even letting you ship that | 21:13 |
| pleia2 | I can hold it in one hand | 21:13 |
| knome | (i'm not kidding, it's probably prohibited for the explosion potential) | 21:13 |
| elfy | https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/europe-scandinavia-the-nordics/topics/surstromming-in-ryanair | 21:14 |
| dkessel | pleia2: that's not too big | 21:15 |
| pleia2 | nah, it's ok | 21:15 |
| JackFrost | == A1 freeze, but if it's only our packages should still be OK. == | 21:16 |
| ochosi | JackFrost: thanks for bringing us back on topic ;) | 21:17 |
| knome | pleia2, wow the resolution, the last time i checked (years ago) thing like that could do 800x600.. | 21:18 |
| knome | pleia2, what's the crappy feature on that? | 21:18 |
| knome | i mean, it can't be that cheap unless it has something that's a bit off.. | 21:18 |
| knome | brightness? contrast? | 21:19 |
| elfy | knome: it's not really gold ... | 21:19 |
| ochosi | holy crap | 21:19 |
| knome | elfy, lol | 21:19 |
| ochosi | that's a lot of resolution | 21:19 |
| ochosi | maybe it's very loud? | 21:19 |
| knome | how can it be, it's so small | 21:20 |
| knome | :P | 21:20 |
| elfy | knome: you never met my ex | 21:20 |
| knome | huhu, this is a logged chan :P | 21:20 |
| ochosi | knome: you think his ex is reading this..? | 21:21 |
| elfy | indeed - but she can't work websites :D | 21:21 |
| knome | ochosi, who knows... | 21:21 |
| elfy | JackFrost: did you think anymore about when meeting is? | 21:24 |
| ochosi | pleia2: if it weren't too late for that, that'd be a nice christmas present... | 21:24 |
| JackFrost | elfy: Sounded like any time before the holiday wasn't going to work, I was trying to get feedback on when it'd be the most useful rather than running it pointlessly. | 21:30 |
| elfy | yep - makes sense | 21:30 |
| elfy | just want to make sure we have one pre - alpha2 | 21:30 |
| elfy | given that the main reason for taking part in that was where systemd was - not that it would be the only reason | 21:31 |
| JackFrost | Right, and you wanted to run that? So I'll need to run one before that. | 21:33 |
| elfy | not if there's no real need I don't :) | 21:33 |
| elfy | but it needs to be consensus for that I would think | 21:34 |
| JackFrost | 5th? :P | 21:35 |
| elfy | works for me - but then most days do - it's the time that causes me issues :) | 21:36 |
| elfy | but that said - it'd probably be good to set one that bluesabre can make | 21:37 |
| elfy | a discussion on yay or nay on a2 doesn't actually need me there | 21:37 |
| JackFrost | IMO, it should, or you should at least make a comment before hand. Some of us run it, sure, but you're still the most "in the know". | 21:39 |
| JackFrost | bluesabre: So, when do you want the next meeting? | 21:39 |
| elfy | JackFrost: yea - I can comment of course - and will - at length - but as long as I've done that - that's not a reason to hold one I can attend :) | 21:40 |
| JackFrost | I should have more than a VM by then... | 21:41 |
| JackFrost | Hah, and now unfrozen as A1 is out. | 22:03 |
| JackFrost | Pinged xnox too. | 22:09 |
| ochosi | JackFrost: you mean about that ubiquity merge? | 22:41 |
| JackFrost | Da. | 22:41 |
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