soeespead teh word about Alpha 1 through social media00:08
mparillosoee: It hit distrowatch:http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=0874200:34
soeenice :)00:35
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mparillosoee: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg2ODE01:37
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bukai_ovidiu-florin: ping05:59
bukai_yofel: ping06:19
ovidiu-florinbukai_ pong07:04
ovidiu-florinbut bukai is not here....07:04
kranzerRiddell: hello, are you here?08:51
* Mirv succesfully runs KDE5 with Qt 5.4.0 with vivid + https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-00508:54
Mirvseems alright08:54
sitters/KDE/Plasma :P08:56
Mirvsorry, I realized my mistake after writing it :)08:56
Mirvafter all 5.5.0 packages migrated to release pocket, it was just a matter of updating those symbols in plasma-framework08:58
MirvI threw kdelibs4support into the mix too then08:58
lordievaderGood morning.09:40
apparleHi guys, is there some guide/documentation on setting up a development environment for KDE projects ? The IDE, test environment etc ?10:20
valorieyes, the KDE developers guide is available10:21
valoriethere should be a button to download it as an ePub file too10:22
apparleAs a general question, would need to move to latest and greatest version of KDE, or can I can still develop/test new things on old version of KDE ?10:24
valoriethat depends on what you want to do10:30
apparleok, let me go through the guide. I guess I'll get a rough idea by the end of it.10:31
valoriemostly if you want to work on frameworks (libraries) you'll need the latest10:36
valorieif plasma, latest plasma10:36
valorieone of the applications, latest of that10:36
valoriewhich is easily built from git btw10:37
EgorMatirovRiddell: hi :)10:38
kranzerRiddell: hi)10:41
RiddellEgorMatirov: oh I didn't assign your task, still wanting to fix icon sizes?10:56
kfunkno 'appstream-util' available for 14.10 yet? *sniff*10:57
EgorMatirovRiddell: yep, I think I done it already10:57
Riddellkfunk: appstream-index not good enough?10:58
RiddellEgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 assigned10:58
kfunkit's apparently giving less warnings when validating stuff with that one10:58
EgorMatirovRiddell:  thanks, needs review11:00
kfunkanyway, installed it from vivid11:01
kfunkindeed. that one's more verbose11:01
Riddellkranzer: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/1372920 --- no problem at all" why do you say no problem, when I look in vivid the problem is still there11:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1372920 in kipi-plugins (Ubuntu) "kipi-plugins should depend on libkqoauth" [Undecided,New]11:02
kranzerRiddell: I couldn't reproduce that bug on my vivid11:03
Riddellkranzer: what did you do to try?11:03
Riddellldd /usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_imgurexport.so | grep oa   says not found11:04
Riddellkranzer: what don't you understand with bug 940924 ?11:04
ubottubug 940924 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94092411:04
kranzerRiddell: in my case it shows nothing11:04
Riddelloh probably you have it installed11:04
_Groo_hi/2 all, kf5 is broken in this lovely morning11:05
kranzerRiddell: what? kipi-plugins or keyboard layout?11:05
_Groo_plasmashell doesnt start because of solid not being 5.4.0 ready11:05
_Groo_and i cant do a clean ujpdate11:05
_Groo_ignore the first url11:05
_Groo_wrong window :P11:05
_Groo_the second is correct though11:06
sitterBroken qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin:amd64 Depends on qtbase-abi-5-3-0 [ amd64 ] < none > ( none )11:06
sitternot supported11:06
Riddellkranzer: for kipi-plugins you probably already have libqoauth installed11:07
Riddellkranzer: you say "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154535 --- it is already fixed" but three lines above you say "1154535 --- the same problem as described"11:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Utopic) "Continue button needs an extra click during oem install" [Medium,New]11:07
kranzerRiddell: sorry, it is my bad attention11:09
kranzerRiddell: ignore it11:09
kranzerRiddell: it is fixed11:10
kranzerRiddell: ohhhh very confusing11:12
kranzerRiddell: could you give me a link to bugs again?11:13
Riddellkranzer: qa.kubuntu.co.uk11:13
Riddellkranzer: what don't you understand about bug 1350855 ?11:14
ubottubug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135085511:14
kranzerRiddell: everything11:14
Riddellkranzer: in ubiquity change the language and go to manual partitioner, then quit and start it again, select a different language go to manual partitioner, what language does it use?11:16
kranzerRiddell: ahh sorry, I did this, shows the same problem11:17
Riddellkranzer: are you able to nominate it for vivid?11:17
kranzerRiddell: nope. I don't know why11:18
kranzerRiddell: I uploaded new version of file11:19
Riddellkranzer: you miss bug 131656311:19
ubottubug 1316563 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu driver manager shows nothing, even after refreshing driver list" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131656311:19
kranzerRiddell: that's the one fixed11:20
Riddellgroovy, just sitter being slack with the bugs then11:20
kranzerRiddell: I wrote 1154535 again instead of 131656311:21
Riddellkranzer: so only bug 1350855 to triage, you can ask Mamarok for details on that11:21
ubottubug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135085511:21
Riddell"Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04"11:21
kranzerRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1350855 this bug is written in my new version of file11:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed]11:22
kranzerRiddell: "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" I don't really know what to do with this11:23
Riddellkranzer: well open up the keyboard dialogue and check if it's there, ask Mamarok if you're unsure11:24
RiddellEgorMatirov: what's your e-mail?11:24
EgorMatirovRiddell:  ematirov@gmail.com11:25
RiddellEgorMatirov: pushing http://commits.kde.org/bomber/b46b12f04cef627a26f36db5e4e01db347d35c8911:26
kranzerRiddell: I found that file in system11:26
EgorMatirovRiddell: ok, thank you11:27
kranzerRiddell: is that bug about missing a file?11:27
Riddellkranzer: no I think it's about missing an entry in a file11:28
kranzerRiddel: what entry?11:29
Riddellkranzer: "German (qwerty)"11:30
kranzerRiddell: so, I need to find this in that file, don't I?11:31
sitterRiddell: I don't think they are fixed11:43
sittermind the version11:43
sitter15.04 is blocked on debconf and 14.04 probably didn't have the fixes11:43
sitteralso in next ppa we have a snapshot11:43
sitterso as I said, they are probably not fixed11:44
Riddellhmm fooey11:44
Riddell"This major upgrade has just turned Kubuntu into something that you must try." :)11:45
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Riddellsoee: cool :)11:45
RiddellEgorMatirov: commited! but there's a few that didn't look very neat and need tidied up listed at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/581854361026560011:50
Riddellsitter, kranzer: reopened bug 131656311:52
ubottubug 1316563 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu driver manager shows nothing, even after refreshing driver list" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131656311:53
kranzerRiddell: I found "German (qwerty)"11:53
kranzerRiddell: I submitted the third version of my file11:55
EgorMatirovRiddell: oh, thank you. My fault, I'll fix them now11:58
Riddellhi Sergobot, how's calligra?11:58
SergobotHello, Riddell, I just came home :)11:59
kranzerRiddell: can you review that file?11:59
bukaiRiddell: ping12:03
Riddellhi bukai 12:04
Riddellkranzer: what's new?12:04
kranzerRiddell: as I said before: I found "German (qwerty)"12:05
bukaiRiddell: I have set up my theme but the pages are missing so i guess i have to create them agaiin :(12:06
Riddellkranzer: where did you find it?12:06
kranzerRiddell: in the file it has to be12:07
Riddellkranzer: great12:08
RiddellMamarok: bug 940924 closing12:09
ubottubug 940924 in xkeyboard-config (Debian) "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94092412:09
Riddellkranzer: groovy, task closed!12:09
kranzerRiddell: thank you very much12:10
* Riddell opens http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5876831685181440 "Blog article for Kubuntu Wire"12:12
soeehmm still there is a poblem - if i have some apps opened etc. i do logout, than after login plasmashell does not start12:14
bukaiRiddell: what can I change the permission somehow to make changes from the browser?12:23
Riddellbukai: I don't understand your question12:24
bukaiRiddell: I have set up my wordpress theme and its active but If I want to make some changes I cannot do it from the browser which I was able to do when it was on my local machine12:25
_Groo_ridell can i just throw away appmenu-qt5 checkbox-gui kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper liboxideqt-qmlplugin liboxideqtquick0 libqt5organizer5 libunity-webapps0 python3-pyqt5 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin12:26
_Groo_  qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-web-plugin ubuntu-desktop unity-webapps-common unity-webapps-qml unity-webapps-service webapp-container webbrowser-app xul-ext-unity xul-ext-websites-integration12:26
_Groo_sorry about that12:26
_Groo_this qtdeclarative is glue for unity right? can i remove it with a dist-upgrade and wait for an update or will it break kf5?12:27
Riddellbukai: presumably you need to log in12:27
bukaiSo now If i have to make a change i have to change the file from the server directly and not from the server12:27
bukaiI am logged in12:27
Riddell_Groo_: kubuntu doesn't need those qtdeclarative packages indeed12:27
bukaibut still I cannot make a change ! In the dash board there is no option to update the file12:28
RiddellI'm not sure what you mean, editing files usually isn't done through a web browser12:30
Riddellyou can use kate to edit files on the server using sftp://12:30
bukaiok. but when i installed on a vps live server then that update option was coming! Anyway I will change it from the server :)12:34
_Groo_Riddell: but it will break multi login with unity?12:38
_Groo_Riddell: but you lose kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper , which are kubuntu only packages, correct?12:39
EgorMatirovRiddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 is updated.12:46
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Riddell_Groo_: they should probably be kept12:52
RiddellEgorMatirov: kdepim ox22-actions-checkmark.png still looks a bit corrupted12:55
RiddellEgorMatirov: there shouldn't be any need to edit the pixels there, just make the canvas larger12:56
EgorMatirovRiddell:  I didn't edited pixels in checkmark.png (I have downloaded it right now from git again and have compared with my edited version)13:02
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Riddellnow this article has a classic photo http://www.itworld.com/article/2852324/ready-to-give-linux-a-try-these-are-the-5-distros-you-need-to-consider.html page 4 of 6 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/197548353/13:10
RiddellEgorMatirov: the version I have is definately slightly different and looks worse, can you send it again?13:14
EgorMatirovRiddell: oh, I got it. Looks like gimp has some problems with original image (there is not "a bit transparent" pixels). I'll try another editor then13:20
Riddellkrita or even kolourpaint should work13:21
BluesKaj_Hi all13:24
sitterkubotu: order cookies, xmas13:26
* kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to sitter and shouts: Happy whatever -.-13:26
sitterhow lude13:26
_Groo_which group is responsible for kubuntu-driver-manager, etc?13:31
Riddell_Groo_: kubuntu is :)13:36
Riddellsitter: have some shortbread and irn bru13:36
_Groo_Riddell: are those in main? universe? cause they will need to be recompiled and /or patched and sent to kubuntu-ci13:38
_Groo_i want my kf5 back :(13:38
EgorMatirovRiddell: updated. (edited with krita)13:39
sitterRiddell: pft, I think I'll go to a sushi bar and get drunk on 清酒 instead13:41
Riddellnew wallpaper is a bit trippy https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/show/wallpapers/Next/contents/images13:43
BluesKajanyone working on this bug, http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml page failed, when trying to DL new schemes 15:00
Riddellpossibly not, opendesktop is unmaintained15:02
Riddellbodega is expected to be the successsor if someone works on it15:02
EgorMatirovRiddell: just for case if you didn't saw that message: [17:39] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: updated. (edited with krita)15:04
BluesKajok thanks Riddell , bodega?15:05
RiddellEgorMatirov: committed15:12
RiddellEgorMatirov: groovy, added a comment with some which you may have missed15:13
SergobotRiddell: can you halp me?15:32
RiddellSergobot: yo what's up?15:32
EgorMatirovRiddell: most of them are already fixed. libkdepim4 (AFAIK) is kdepim which I fixed too.15:34
EgorMatirovRiddell: I commented on Melange15:35
SergobotRiddell: no ackages are built15:36
RiddellSergobot: it doesn't finish the compile because the kritalutdocker.so file isn't made for some reason15:37
RiddellSergobot: kritalutdocker.so is only made on i386 and amd64 so it gets installed in special rules in debian/rules15:37
RiddellSergobot: I'm not sure why it's not being made on the server, comment out the lines in debian/rules and run  debuild -nc15:37
RiddellEgorMatirov: great, closed!  well done15:38
EgorMatirovRiddell: thank you :)15:38
SergobotRiddell: Could you help me?15:55
RiddellSergobot: yo what's up?15:56
RiddellSergobot: now you need to add new files to the .install files15:57
RiddellSergobot: you can list files which are not in .install files with  dh_install --list-missing 2>&115:58
RiddellSergobot: but many are not installed for a reason, they are listed in debian/not-installed15:58
RiddellSergobot: you need to work out which ones are new and need installed and what .install file to add them to15:58
RiddellSergobot: some like libkoversion.so.14 will be just new version numbers on the old filename15:58
SergobotRiddell: help me please16:21
Riddellhi Sergobot 16:31
Riddell"couldn't find library libkoversion.so.14"16:31
RiddellSergobot: that needs added to a .install file16:31
RiddellSergobot: libkoversion.so.14 looks like it's a new library that's used by all of calligra, add it to calligra-libs.install16:32
RiddellSergobot: add the .so to not-installed16:35
RiddellSergobot: run dh_install --list-missing  to see what's left16:35
SergobotRiddell: It built!16:50
RiddellSergobot: awooga!16:50
RiddellSergobot: but are you sure there's no new files?16:51
joernhi, I want to report a bug in 15.04, but I'm not sure against which package it should be reported. it is affecting one of the bundled Plasmoids (are they still called Plasmoids in Plasma Next?)16:51
Riddellmaybe plasmoids, maybe plasma widgets16:52
Riddelljoern: anyway what's up?16:52
joernI got a new testing machine (2008ish notebook) and installed 15.04's alpha on it16:54
joernI added that plasmoid "System load", but it didn't show anything but a generic icon16:54
joernhovering with the mouse, there was a error message that org.kde.kio module was not installed16:55
joernthat could be fixed by installing qml-module-org-kde-kio16:55
joernso I guess that package should be a dependency or at least in recommends of the desktop or something16:56
Riddellthat's part of plasma-widgets-addons16:57
SergobotRiddell: why doesn't it install?16:57
Riddelland it should depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio16:57
RiddellSergobot: try   apt -f install  (dpkg has no intelligence about order of installing)16:57
joernsounds reasonable, thank you Riddell16:58
Riddelljoern: it does depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio, do you have that installed?16:59
Riddelljoern: pastebin  apt-cache policy qml-module-org-kde-kio; apt-cache policy plasma-widgets-addons; apt-cache show plasma-widgets-addons16:59
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joernaccording to this:17:06
joernit's not a dependency17:06
joernnow, I have qml-module-org-kde-kio installed, but it was not after doing the installation17:07
kranzerRiddell: hi17:08
joern@ Riddell17:09
Riddellhi kranzer 17:09
kranzerRiddell: are there any new tasks?17:10
Riddelljoern: spooky, there's no 5.1.2 version of kdeplasma-addons in the archive but there should be  :(17:11
Riddellkranzer: two just got published I think17:11
kranzerRiddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5822613091778560 claimed17:11
Riddellkranzer: but I'm going out in 30 mins for a few hours so I can't help too much17:12
Riddellkranzer: you know how to update packages?17:12
Riddelloh and maybe sitter will be around, or maybe he's getting drunk on saki17:12
joernokay, I'll go watch TV now. have a nice day/evening/night!17:12
kranzerRiddell: updating?17:13
kranzerRiddell: can you give me some docs about it?17:13
Riddellkranzer: you've done a .deb package with me before?17:17
Riddellkranzer: so grab the current package source from launchpad.net/ubuntu/17:19
Riddelland grab the new upstream tar17:19
Riddelland  dch  to update the changelog17:19
Riddellthen build and see what breaks17:19
Riddellshadeslayer: kcm-driver-manager doesn't want to build for me :(17:20
shadeslayercompile error?17:20
shadeslayersitter probably broke it :P17:20
kranzerRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/meow/ its current, right?17:21
Riddellkranzer: that's the new ones17:22
kranzerRiddell: could you give me full links to current17:23
Riddellkranzer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/about-distro17:23
Riddellcopy the URL of the .dsc and run dget on it to download17:23
Riddellyou probably need to update all the build-depends to kf5 libraries and qt5 dev libraries17:24
kranzergpg: keyblock resource `/home/kranzer/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error gpg: Signature made пт, 28-лют-2014 12:56:44 +0200 EET using DSA key ID 72F23991 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!!17:24
Riddellkranzer: that's good it means it compiled (but it can't find a matching gpg key which is fine no need to gpg sign it unless you're uploading)17:25
SergobotRiddell: build failed :(17:26
kranzerRiddell: where to find it on my hdd?17:26
RiddellSergobot: running debuild -nc doesn't make it rebuild the .debs if they are already made, for that you need to manually remove the foo.debhelper.log file and remove debian/packagename/17:30
Riddellkranzer: find what?17:32
kranzerRiddell: that packages17:32
Riddellkranzer: after the build the .deb files are in the directory above  cd ..17:32
kranzerRiddell: which I got by dget17:32
Riddellkranzer: then that'll get the source files17:33
Riddellinto the current directory17:33
RiddellSergobot: looks like there's lots of new files that need to be added to .install files17:36
RiddellSergobot: and probably a new package needed for the calligragemini stuff17:36
* Riddell out17:36
SergobotRiddell: are you here?18:21
kranzerSergobot: он отошёл на несколько часов18:31
Sergobotkranzer: Please speak English here :)18:31
kranzerSergobot: oh, I think, it doesn't matter18:32
kranzerSergobot: you're russian, aren't you?18:32
Sergobotkranzer: Yes, I am18:33
tewardbut for the rest of us who aren't... :P18:33
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SergobotRiddell: could you help me?20:03

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