[00:08] spead teh word about Alpha 1 through social media [00:34] soee: It hit distrowatch:http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08742 [00:35] nice :) === rdieter_laptop is now known as rdieter [01:37] soee: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg2ODE === tazz_ is now known as tazz [05:59] ovidiu-florin: ping [06:19] yofel: ping [07:04] bukai_ pong [07:04] but bukai is not here.... [08:51] Riddell: hello, are you here? [08:54] * Mirv succesfully runs KDE5 with Qt 5.4.0 with vivid + https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-005 [08:54] seems alright [08:56] やった! [08:56] also [08:56] s/KDE/Plasma :P [08:56] sorry, I realized my mistake after writing it :) [08:56] ^^ [08:58] after all 5.5.0 packages migrated to release pocket, it was just a matter of updating those symbols in plasma-framework [08:58] I threw kdelibs4support into the mix too then [09:40] Good morning. [10:20] Hi guys, is there some guide/documentation on setting up a development environment for KDE projects ? The IDE, test environment etc ? [10:21] yes, the KDE developers guide is available [10:22] http://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/ [10:22] thanks! [10:22] there should be a button to download it as an ePub file too [10:24] As a general question, would need to move to latest and greatest version of KDE, or can I can still develop/test new things on old version of KDE ? [10:30] that depends on what you want to do [10:31] ok, let me go through the guide. I guess I'll get a rough idea by the end of it. [10:36] sure [10:36] mostly if you want to work on frameworks (libraries) you'll need the latest [10:36] if plasma, latest plasma [10:36] one of the applications, latest of that [10:37] which is easily built from git btw [10:37] hola [10:38] Riddell: hi :) [10:41] Riddell: hi) [10:56] EgorMatirov: oh I didn't assign your task, still wanting to fix icon sizes? [10:57] no 'appstream-util' available for 14.10 yet? *sniff* [10:57] Riddell: yep, I think I done it already [10:58] kfunk: appstream-index not good enough? [10:58] EgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 assigned [10:58] it's apparently giving less warnings when validating stuff with that one [11:00] Riddell: thanks, needs review [11:01] anyway, installed it from vivid [11:01] indeed. that one's more verbose [11:02] kranzer: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/1372920 --- no problem at all" why do you say no problem, when I look in vivid the problem is still there [11:02] Launchpad bug 1372920 in kipi-plugins (Ubuntu) "kipi-plugins should depend on libkqoauth" [Undecided,New] [11:03] Riddell: I couldn't reproduce that bug on my vivid [11:03] kranzer: what did you do to try? [11:04] ldd /usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_imgurexport.so | grep oa says not found [11:04] kranzer: what don't you understand with bug 940924 ? [11:04] bug 940924 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu) "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940924 [11:04] Riddell: in my case it shows nothing [11:04] oh probably you have it installed [11:05] <_Groo_> hi/2 all, kf5 is broken in this lovely morning [11:05] Riddell: what? kipi-plugins or keyboard layout? [11:05] <_Groo_> plasmashell doesnt start because of solid not being 5.4.0 ready [11:05] <_Groo_> and i cant do a clean ujpdate [11:05] <_Groo_> update [11:05] <_Groo_> https://billing.boacompra.com/checkout.php?confirm&sid=hhr9826jnum3bbmeeslb2rg5u2 [11:05] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NrnGsICO [11:05] <_Groo_> ignore the first url [11:05] <_Groo_> wrong window :P [11:06] <_Groo_> the second is correct though [11:06] Broken qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin:amd64 Depends on qtbase-abi-5-3-0 [ amd64 ] < none > ( none ) [11:06] not supported [11:07] kranzer: for kipi-plugins you probably already have libqoauth installed [11:07] kranzer: you say "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154535 --- it is already fixed" but three lines above you say "1154535 --- the same problem as described" [11:07] Launchpad bug 1154535 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Utopic) "Continue button needs an extra click during oem install" [Medium,New] [11:09] Riddell: sorry, it is my bad attention [11:09] Riddell: ignore it [11:10] Riddell: it is fixed [11:12] Riddell: ohhhh very confusing [11:13] Riddell: could you give me a link to bugs again? [11:13] kranzer: qa.kubuntu.co.uk [11:14] kranzer: what don't you understand about bug 1350855 ? [11:14] bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350855 [11:14] Riddell: everything [11:16] kranzer: in ubiquity change the language and go to manual partitioner, then quit and start it again, select a different language go to manual partitioner, what language does it use? [11:17] Riddell: ahh sorry, I did this, shows the same problem [11:17] kranzer: are you able to nominate it for vivid? [11:18] Riddell: nope. I don't know why [11:19] Riddell: I uploaded new version of file [11:19] kranzer: you miss bug 1316563 [11:19] bug 1316563 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu driver manager shows nothing, even after refreshing driver list" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316563 [11:20] Riddell: that's the one fixed [11:20] groovy, just sitter being slack with the bugs then [11:21] Riddell: I wrote 1154535 again instead of 1316563 [11:21] kranzer: so only bug 1350855 to triage, you can ask Mamarok for details on that [11:21] bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1350855 [11:21] "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" [11:22] Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1350855 this bug is written in my new version of file [11:22] Launchpad bug 1350855 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Vivid) "Manual Partitioner Does not Translate when Selecting a new Language" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:23] Riddell: "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" I don't really know what to do with this [11:24] kranzer: well open up the keyboard dialogue and check if it's there, ask Mamarok if you're unsure [11:24] EgorMatirov: what's your e-mail? [11:25] Riddell: ematirov@gmail.com [11:26] EgorMatirov: pushing http://commits.kde.org/bomber/b46b12f04cef627a26f36db5e4e01db347d35c89 [11:26] Riddell: I found that file in system [11:27] Riddell: ok, thank you [11:27] Riddell: is that bug about missing a file? [11:28] kranzer: no I think it's about missing an entry in a file [11:29] Riddel: what entry? [11:30] kranzer: "German (qwerty)" [11:31] Riddell: so, I need to find this in that file, don't I? [11:35] http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Alpha-1-Is-the-Biggest-Update-in-Years-Feature-Plasma-5-by-Default-467927.shtml [11:43] Riddell: I don't think they are fixed [11:43] mind the version [11:43] 15.04 is blocked on debconf and 14.04 probably didn't have the fixes [11:43] also in next ppa we have a snapshot [11:44] so as I said, they are probably not fixed [11:44] hmm fooey [11:45] "This major upgrade has just turned Kubuntu into something that you must try." :) === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch [11:45] soee: cool :) [11:50] EgorMatirov: commited! but there's a few that didn't look very neat and need tidied up listed at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 [11:52] sitter, kranzer: reopened bug 1316563 [11:53] bug 1316563 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu driver manager shows nothing, even after refreshing driver list" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1316563 [11:53] Riddell: I found "German (qwerty)" [11:55] Riddell: I submitted the third version of my file [11:58] Riddell: oh, thank you. My fault, I'll fix them now [11:58] hi Sergobot, how's calligra? [11:59] Hello, Riddell, I just came home :) [11:59] Riddell: can you review that file? [12:03] Riddell: ping [12:04] hi bukai [12:04] kranzer: what's new? [12:05] Riddell: as I said before: I found "German (qwerty)" [12:06] Riddell: I have set up my theme but the pages are missing so i guess i have to create them agaiin :( [12:06] kranzer: where did you find it? [12:07] Riddell: in the file it has to be [12:08] kranzer: great [12:09] Mamarok: bug 940924 closing [12:09] bug 940924 in xkeyboard-config (Debian) "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/940924 [12:09] kranzer: groovy, task closed! [12:10] Riddell: thank you very much [12:12] * Riddell opens http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5876831685181440 "Blog article for Kubuntu Wire" [12:14] hmm still there is a poblem - if i have some apps opened etc. i do logout, than after login plasmashell does not start [12:23] Riddell: what can I change the permission somehow to make changes from the browser? [12:24] bukai: I don't understand your question [12:25] Riddell: I have set up my wordpress theme and its active but If I want to make some changes I cannot do it from the browser which I was able to do when it was on my local machine [12:26] <_Groo_> ridell can i just throw away appmenu-qt5 checkbox-gui kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper liboxideqt-qmlplugin liboxideqtquick0 libqt5organizer5 libunity-webapps0 python3-pyqt5 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin [12:26] <_Groo_> qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-web-plugin ubuntu-desktop unity-webapps-common unity-webapps-qml unity-webapps-service webapp-container webbrowser-app xul-ext-unity xul-ext-websites-integration [12:26] <_Groo_> oops [12:26] <_Groo_> sorry about that [12:26] <_Groo_> anyway [12:27] <_Groo_> this qtdeclarative is glue for unity right? can i remove it with a dist-upgrade and wait for an update or will it break kf5? [12:27] bukai: presumably you need to log in [12:27] So now If i have to make a change i have to change the file from the server directly and not from the server [12:27] I am logged in [12:27] _Groo_: kubuntu doesn't need those qtdeclarative packages indeed [12:28] but still I cannot make a change ! In the dash board there is no option to update the file [12:30] I'm not sure what you mean, editing files usually isn't done through a web browser [12:30] you can use kate to edit files on the server using sftp:// [12:34] ok. but when i installed on a vps live server then that update option was coming! Anyway I will change it from the server :) [12:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: but it will break multi login with unity? [12:39] <_Groo_> Riddell: but you lose kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper , which are kubuntu only packages, correct? [12:46] Riddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 is updated. === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [12:52] _Groo_: they should probably be kept [12:55] EgorMatirov: kdepim ox22-actions-checkmark.png still looks a bit corrupted [12:56] EgorMatirov: there shouldn't be any need to edit the pixels there, just make the canvas larger [13:02] Riddell: I didn't edited pixels in checkmark.png (I have downloaded it right now from git again and have compared with my edited version) === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik [13:09] hmm [13:10] now this article has a classic photo http://www.itworld.com/article/2852324/ready-to-give-linux-a-try-these-are-the-5-distros-you-need-to-consider.html page 4 of 6 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/197548353/ [13:14] EgorMatirov: the version I have is definately slightly different and looks worse, can you send it again? [13:20] Riddell: oh, I got it. Looks like gimp has some problems with original image (there is not "a bit transparent" pixels). I'll try another editor then [13:21] krita or even kolourpaint should work [13:24] Hi all [13:26] kubotu: order cookies, xmas [13:26] * kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to sitter and shouts: Happy whatever -.- [13:26] how lude [13:31] <_Groo_> which group is responsible for kubuntu-driver-manager, etc? [13:36] _Groo_: kubuntu is :) [13:36] sitter: have some shortbread and irn bru [13:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: are those in main? universe? cause they will need to be recompiled and /or patched and sent to kubuntu-ci [13:38] <_Groo_> i want my kf5 back :( [13:39] Riddell: updated. (edited with krita) [13:41] Riddell: pft, I think I'll go to a sushi bar and get drunk on 清酒 instead [13:43] new wallpaper is a bit trippy https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/show/wallpapers/Next/contents/images [15:00] anyone working on this bug, http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml page failed, when trying to DL new schemes [15:00] ? [15:02] possibly not, opendesktop is unmaintained [15:02] bodega is expected to be the successsor if someone works on it [15:04] Riddell: just for case if you didn't saw that message: [17:39] Riddell: updated. (edited with krita) [15:05] ok thanks Riddell , bodega? [15:12] EgorMatirov: committed [15:13] EgorMatirov: groovy, added a comment with some which you may have missed [15:32] Riddell: can you halp me? [15:32] *help [15:32] Sergobot: yo what's up? [15:34] Riddell: most of them are already fixed. libkdepim4 (AFAIK) is kdepim which I fixed too. [15:35] Riddell: I commented on Melange [15:36] Riddell: no ackages are built [15:36] *packages [15:37] Sergobot: it doesn't finish the compile because the kritalutdocker.so file isn't made for some reason [15:37] Sergobot: kritalutdocker.so is only made on i386 and amd64 so it gets installed in special rules in debian/rules [15:37] Sergobot: I'm not sure why it's not being made on the server, comment out the lines in debian/rules and run debuild -nc [15:38] EgorMatirov: great, closed! well done [15:38] Riddell: thank you :) [15:55] Riddell: Could you help me? [15:56] Sergobot: yo what's up? [15:57] Sergobot: now you need to add new files to the .install files [15:58] Sergobot: you can list files which are not in .install files with dh_install --list-missing 2>&1 [15:58] Sergobot: but many are not installed for a reason, they are listed in debian/not-installed [15:58] Sergobot: you need to work out which ones are new and need installed and what .install file to add them to [15:58] Sergobot: some like libkoversion.so.14 will be just new version numbers on the old filename [16:21] Riddell: help me please [16:31] hi Sergobot [16:31] "couldn't find library libkoversion.so.14" [16:31] Sergobot: that needs added to a .install file [16:32] Sergobot: libkoversion.so.14 looks like it's a new library that's used by all of calligra, add it to calligra-libs.install [16:35] Sergobot: add the .so to not-installed [16:35] Sergobot: run dh_install --list-missing to see what's left [16:50] Riddell: It built! [16:50] Sergobot: awooga! [16:51] Sergobot: but are you sure there's no new files? [16:51] hi, I want to report a bug in 15.04, but I'm not sure against which package it should be reported. it is affecting one of the bundled Plasmoids (are they still called Plasmoids in Plasma Next?) [16:52] maybe plasmoids, maybe plasma widgets [16:52] joern: anyway what's up? [16:54] I got a new testing machine (2008ish notebook) and installed 15.04's alpha on it [16:54] I added that plasmoid "System load", but it didn't show anything but a generic icon [16:55] hovering with the mouse, there was a error message that org.kde.kio module was not installed [16:55] that could be fixed by installing qml-module-org-kde-kio [16:56] so I guess that package should be a dependency or at least in recommends of the desktop or something [16:57] that's part of plasma-widgets-addons [16:57] Riddell: why doesn't it install? [16:57] and it should depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio [16:57] Sergobot: try apt -f install (dpkg has no intelligence about order of installing) [16:58] sounds reasonable, thank you Riddell [16:59] joern: it does depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio, do you have that installed? [16:59] joern: pastebin apt-cache policy qml-module-org-kde-kio; apt-cache policy plasma-widgets-addons; apt-cache show plasma-widgets-addons === alket_ is now known as alket [17:06] according to this: [17:06] http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/plasma-widgets-addons [17:06] it's not a dependency [17:07] now, I have qml-module-org-kde-kio installed, but it was not after doing the installation [17:08] Riddell: hi [17:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/9571464/ [17:09] @ Riddell [17:09] hi kranzer [17:10] Riddell: are there any new tasks? [17:11] joern: spooky, there's no 5.1.2 version of kdeplasma-addons in the archive but there should be :( [17:11] kranzer: two just got published I think [17:11] Riddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5822613091778560 claimed [17:12] kranzer: but I'm going out in 30 mins for a few hours so I can't help too much [17:12] kranzer: you know how to update packages? [17:12] oh and maybe sitter will be around, or maybe he's getting drunk on saki [17:12] okay, I'll go watch TV now. have a nice day/evening/night! [17:13] Riddell: updating? [17:13] Riddell: can you give me some docs about it? [17:17] kranzer: you've done a .deb package with me before? [17:17] yep [17:19] kranzer: so grab the current package source from launchpad.net/ubuntu/ [17:19] and grab the new upstream tar [17:19] and dch to update the changelog [17:19] then build and see what breaks [17:20] shadeslayer: kcm-driver-manager doesn't want to build for me :( [17:20] :O [17:20] compile error? [17:20] sitter probably broke it :P [17:21] Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/meow/ its current, right? [17:22] kranzer: that's the new ones [17:23] Riddell: could you give me full links to current [17:23] ? [17:23] kranzer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/about-distro [17:23] copy the URL of the .dsc and run dget on it to download [17:24] you probably need to update all the build-depends to kf5 libraries and qt5 dev libraries [17:24] gpg: keyblock resource `/home/kranzer/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error gpg: Signature made пт, 28-лют-2014 12:56:44 +0200 EET using DSA key ID 72F23991 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!! [17:25] kranzer: that's good it means it compiled (but it can't find a matching gpg key which is fine no need to gpg sign it unless you're uploading) [17:26] Riddell: build failed :( [17:26] Riddell: where to find it on my hdd? [17:30] Sergobot: running debuild -nc doesn't make it rebuild the .debs if they are already made, for that you need to manually remove the foo.debhelper.log file and remove debian/packagename/ [17:32] kranzer: find what? [17:32] Riddell: that packages [17:32] kranzer: after the build the .deb files are in the directory above cd .. [17:32] Riddell: which I got by dget [17:33] kranzer: then that'll get the source files [17:33] into the current directory [17:36] Sergobot: looks like there's lots of new files that need to be added to .install files [17:36] Sergobot: and probably a new package needed for the calligragemini stuff [17:36] * Riddell out [18:21] Riddell: are you here? [18:31] Sergobot: он отошёл на несколько часов [18:31] kranzer: Please speak English here :) [18:32] Sergobot: oh, I think, it doesn't matter [18:32] Sergobot: you're russian, aren't you? [18:33] kranzer: Yes, I am [18:33] but for the rest of us who aren't... :P === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === soee_ is now known as soee [20:03] Riddell: could you help me?