[00:08] <soee> spead teh word about Alpha 1 through social media
[00:34] <mparillo> soee: It hit distrowatch:http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08742
[00:35] <soee> nice :)
[01:37] <mparillo> soee: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTg2ODE
[05:59] <bukai_> ovidiu-florin: ping
[06:19] <bukai_> yofel: ping
[07:04] <ovidiu-florin> bukai_ pong
[07:04] <ovidiu-florin> but bukai is not here....
[08:51] <kranzer> Riddell: hello, are you here?
[08:54]  * Mirv succesfully runs KDE5 with Qt 5.4.0 with vivid + https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-005
[08:54] <Mirv> seems alright
[08:56] <sitter> やった!
[08:56] <sitter> also
[08:56] <sitter> s/KDE/Plasma :P
[08:56] <Mirv> sorry, I realized my mistake after writing it :)
[08:56] <sitter> ^^
[08:58] <Mirv> after all 5.5.0 packages migrated to release pocket, it was just a matter of updating those symbols in plasma-framework
[08:58] <Mirv> I threw kdelibs4support into the mix too then
[09:40] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:20] <apparle> Hi guys, is there some guide/documentation on setting up a development environment for KDE projects ? The IDE, test environment etc ?
[10:21] <valorie> yes, the KDE developers guide is available
[10:22] <valorie> http://flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/
[10:22] <apparle> thanks!
[10:22] <valorie> there should be a button to download it as an ePub file too
[10:24] <apparle> As a general question, would need to move to latest and greatest version of KDE, or can I can still develop/test new things on old version of KDE ?
[10:30] <valorie> that depends on what you want to do
[10:31] <apparle> ok, let me go through the guide. I guess I'll get a rough idea by the end of it.
[10:36] <valorie> sure
[10:36] <valorie> mostly if you want to work on frameworks (libraries) you'll need the latest
[10:36] <valorie> if plasma, latest plasma
[10:36] <valorie> one of the applications, latest of that
[10:37] <valorie> which is easily built from git btw
[10:37] <Riddell> hola
[10:38] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: hi :)
[10:41] <kranzer> Riddell: hi)
[10:56] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: oh I didn't assign your task, still wanting to fix icon sizes?
[10:57] <kfunk> no 'appstream-util' available for 14.10 yet? *sniff*
[10:57] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: yep, I think I done it already
[10:58] <Riddell> kfunk: appstream-index not good enough?
[10:58] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 assigned
[10:58] <kfunk> it's apparently giving less warnings when validating stuff with that one
[11:00] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  thanks, needs review
[11:01] <kfunk> anyway, installed it from vivid
[11:01] <kfunk> indeed. that one's more verbose
[11:02] <Riddell> kranzer: "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kipi-plugins/+bug/1372920 --- no problem at all" why do you say no problem, when I look in vivid the problem is still there
[11:03] <kranzer> Riddell: I couldn't reproduce that bug on my vivid
[11:03] <Riddell> kranzer: what did you do to try?
[11:04] <Riddell> ldd /usr/lib/kde4/kipiplugin_imgurexport.so | grep oa   says not found
[11:04] <Riddell> kranzer: what don't you understand with bug 940924 ?
[11:04] <kranzer> Riddell: in my case it shows nothing
[11:04] <Riddell> oh probably you have it installed
[11:05] <_Groo_> hi/2 all, kf5 is broken in this lovely morning
[11:05] <kranzer> Riddell: what? kipi-plugins or keyboard layout?
[11:05] <_Groo_> plasmashell doesnt start because of solid not being 5.4.0 ready
[11:05] <_Groo_> and i cant do a clean ujpdate
[11:05] <_Groo_> update
[11:05] <_Groo_> https://billing.boacompra.com/checkout.php?confirm&sid=hhr9826jnum3bbmeeslb2rg5u2
[11:05] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NrnGsICO
[11:05] <_Groo_> ignore the first url
[11:05] <_Groo_> wrong window :P
[11:06] <_Groo_> the second is correct though
[11:06] <sitter> Broken qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin:amd64 Depends on qtbase-abi-5-3-0 [ amd64 ] < none > ( none )
[11:06] <sitter> not supported
[11:07] <Riddell> kranzer: for kipi-plugins you probably already have libqoauth installed
[11:07] <Riddell> kranzer: you say "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1154535 --- it is already fixed" but three lines above you say "1154535 --- the same problem as described"
[11:09] <kranzer> Riddell: sorry, it is my bad attention
[11:09] <kranzer> Riddell: ignore it
[11:10] <kranzer> Riddell: it is fixed
[11:12] <kranzer> Riddell: ohhhh very confusing
[11:13] <kranzer> Riddell: could you give me a link to bugs again?
[11:13] <Riddell> kranzer: qa.kubuntu.co.uk
[11:14] <Riddell> kranzer: what don't you understand about bug 1350855 ?
[11:14] <kranzer> Riddell: everything
[11:16] <Riddell> kranzer: in ubiquity change the language and go to manual partitioner, then quit and start it again, select a different language go to manual partitioner, what language does it use?
[11:17] <kranzer> Riddell: ahh sorry, I did this, shows the same problem
[11:17] <Riddell> kranzer: are you able to nominate it for vivid?
[11:18] <kranzer> Riddell: nope. I don't know why
[11:19] <kranzer> Riddell: I uploaded new version of file
[11:19] <Riddell> kranzer: you miss bug 1316563
[11:20] <kranzer> Riddell: that's the one fixed
[11:20] <Riddell> groovy, just sitter being slack with the bugs then
[11:21] <kranzer> Riddell: I wrote 1154535 again instead of 1316563
[11:21] <Riddell> kranzer: so only bug 1350855 to triage, you can ask Mamarok for details on that
[11:21] <Riddell> "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04"
[11:22] <kranzer> Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1350855 this bug is written in my new version of file
[11:23] <kranzer> Riddell: "Keyboard Layout "German (qwerty)" missing since 12.04" I don't really know what to do with this
[11:24] <Riddell> kranzer: well open up the keyboard dialogue and check if it's there, ask Mamarok if you're unsure
[11:24] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: what's your e-mail?
[11:25] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  ematirov@gmail.com
[11:26] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: pushing http://commits.kde.org/bomber/b46b12f04cef627a26f36db5e4e01db347d35c89
[11:26] <kranzer> Riddell: I found that file in system
[11:27] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: ok, thank you
[11:27] <kranzer> Riddell: is that bug about missing a file?
[11:28] <Riddell> kranzer: no I think it's about missing an entry in a file
[11:29] <kranzer> Riddel: what entry?
[11:30] <Riddell> kranzer: "German (qwerty)"
[11:31] <kranzer> Riddell: so, I need to find this in that file, don't I?
[11:35] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kubuntu-15-04-Alpha-1-Is-the-Biggest-Update-in-Years-Feature-Plasma-5-by-Default-467927.shtml
[11:43] <sitter> Riddell: I don't think they are fixed
[11:43] <sitter> mind the version
[11:43] <sitter> 15.04 is blocked on debconf and 14.04 probably didn't have the fixes
[11:43] <sitter> also in next ppa we have a snapshot
[11:44] <sitter> so as I said, they are probably not fixed
[11:44] <Riddell> hmm fooey
[11:45] <Riddell> "This major upgrade has just turned Kubuntu into something that you must try." :)
[11:45] <Riddell> soee: cool :)
[11:50] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: commited! but there's a few that didn't look very neat and need tidied up listed at http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600
[11:52] <Riddell> sitter, kranzer: reopened bug 1316563
[11:53] <kranzer> Riddell: I found "German (qwerty)"
[11:55] <kranzer> Riddell: I submitted the third version of my file
[11:58] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: oh, thank you. My fault, I'll fix them now
[11:58] <Riddell> hi Sergobot, how's calligra?
[11:59] <Sergobot> Hello, Riddell, I just came home :)
[11:59] <kranzer> Riddell: can you review that file?
[12:03] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[12:04] <Riddell> hi bukai 
[12:04] <Riddell> kranzer: what's new?
[12:05] <kranzer> Riddell: as I said before: I found "German (qwerty)"
[12:06] <bukai> Riddell: I have set up my theme but the pages are missing so i guess i have to create them agaiin :(
[12:06] <Riddell> kranzer: where did you find it?
[12:07] <kranzer> Riddell: in the file it has to be
[12:08] <Riddell> kranzer: great
[12:09] <Riddell> Mamarok: bug 940924 closing
[12:09] <Riddell> kranzer: groovy, task closed!
[12:10] <kranzer> Riddell: thank you very much
[12:12]  * Riddell opens http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5876831685181440 "Blog article for Kubuntu Wire"
[12:14] <soee> hmm still there is a poblem - if i have some apps opened etc. i do logout, than after login plasmashell does not start
[12:23] <bukai> Riddell: what can I change the permission somehow to make changes from the browser?
[12:24] <Riddell> bukai: I don't understand your question
[12:25] <bukai> Riddell: I have set up my wordpress theme and its active but If I want to make some changes I cannot do it from the browser which I was able to do when it was on my local machine
[12:26] <_Groo_> ridell can i just throw away appmenu-qt5 checkbox-gui kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper liboxideqt-qmlplugin liboxideqtquick0 libqt5organizer5 libunity-webapps0 python3-pyqt5 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin
[12:26] <_Groo_>   qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-web-plugin ubuntu-desktop unity-webapps-common unity-webapps-qml unity-webapps-service webapp-container webbrowser-app xul-ext-unity xul-ext-websites-integration
[12:26] <_Groo_> oops
[12:26] <_Groo_> sorry about that
[12:26] <_Groo_> anyway
[12:27] <_Groo_> this qtdeclarative is glue for unity right? can i remove it with a dist-upgrade and wait for an update or will it break kf5?
[12:27] <Riddell> bukai: presumably you need to log in
[12:27] <bukai> So now If i have to make a change i have to change the file from the server directly and not from the server
[12:27] <bukai> I am logged in
[12:27] <Riddell> _Groo_: kubuntu doesn't need those qtdeclarative packages indeed
[12:28] <bukai> but still I cannot make a change ! In the dash board there is no option to update the file
[12:30] <Riddell> I'm not sure what you mean, editing files usually isn't done through a web browser
[12:30] <Riddell> you can use kate to edit files on the server using sftp://
[12:34] <bukai> ok. but when i installed on a vps live server then that update option was coming! Anyway I will change it from the server :)
[12:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: but it will break multi login with unity?
[12:39] <_Groo_> Riddell: but you lose kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper , which are kubuntu only packages, correct?
[12:46] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5818543610265600 is updated.
[12:52] <Riddell> _Groo_: they should probably be kept
[12:55] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: kdepim ox22-actions-checkmark.png still looks a bit corrupted
[12:56] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: there shouldn't be any need to edit the pixels there, just make the canvas larger
[13:02] <EgorMatirov> Riddell:  I didn't edited pixels in checkmark.png (I have downloaded it right now from git again and have compared with my edited version)
[13:09] <Riddell> hmm
[13:10] <Riddell> now this article has a classic photo http://www.itworld.com/article/2852324/ready-to-give-linux-a-try-these-are-the-5-distros-you-need-to-consider.html page 4 of 6 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jriddell/197548353/
[13:14] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: the version I have is definately slightly different and looks worse, can you send it again?
[13:20] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: oh, I got it. Looks like gimp has some problems with original image (there is not "a bit transparent" pixels). I'll try another editor then
[13:21] <Riddell> krita or even kolourpaint should work
[13:24] <BluesKaj_> Hi all
[13:26] <sitter> kubotu: order cookies, xmas
[13:26]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to sitter and shouts: Happy whatever -.-
[13:26] <sitter> how lude
[13:31] <_Groo_> which group is responsible for kubuntu-driver-manager, etc?
[13:36] <Riddell> _Groo_: kubuntu is :)
[13:36] <Riddell> sitter: have some shortbread and irn bru
[13:38] <_Groo_> Riddell: are those in main? universe? cause they will need to be recompiled and /or patched and sent to kubuntu-ci
[13:38] <_Groo_> i want my kf5 back :(
[13:39] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: updated. (edited with krita)
[13:41] <sitter> Riddell: pft, I think I'll go to a sushi bar and get drunk on 清酒 instead
[13:43] <Riddell> new wallpaper is a bit trippy https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/workspace/breeze/repository/revisions/master/show/wallpapers/Next/contents/images
[15:00] <BluesKaj> anyone working on this bug, http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml page failed, when trying to DL new schemes 
[15:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:02] <Riddell> possibly not, opendesktop is unmaintained
[15:02] <Riddell> bodega is expected to be the successsor if someone works on it
[15:04] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: just for case if you didn't saw that message: [17:39] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: updated. (edited with krita)
[15:05] <BluesKaj> ok thanks Riddell , bodega?
[15:12] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: committed
[15:13] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: groovy, added a comment with some which you may have missed
[15:32] <Sergobot> Riddell: can you halp me?
[15:32] <Sergobot> *help
[15:32] <Riddell> Sergobot: yo what's up?
[15:34] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: most of them are already fixed. libkdepim4 (AFAIK) is kdepim which I fixed too.
[15:35] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: I commented on Melange
[15:36] <Sergobot> Riddell: no ackages are built
[15:36] <Sergobot> *packages
[15:37] <Riddell> Sergobot: it doesn't finish the compile because the kritalutdocker.so file isn't made for some reason
[15:37] <Riddell> Sergobot: kritalutdocker.so is only made on i386 and amd64 so it gets installed in special rules in debian/rules
[15:37] <Riddell> Sergobot: I'm not sure why it's not being made on the server, comment out the lines in debian/rules and run  debuild -nc
[15:38] <Riddell> EgorMatirov: great, closed!  well done
[15:38] <EgorMatirov> Riddell: thank you :)
[15:55] <Sergobot> Riddell: Could you help me?
[15:56] <Riddell> Sergobot: yo what's up?
[15:57] <Riddell> Sergobot: now you need to add new files to the .install files
[15:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: you can list files which are not in .install files with  dh_install --list-missing 2>&1
[15:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: but many are not installed for a reason, they are listed in debian/not-installed
[15:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: you need to work out which ones are new and need installed and what .install file to add them to
[15:58] <Riddell> Sergobot: some like libkoversion.so.14 will be just new version numbers on the old filename
[16:21] <Sergobot> Riddell: help me please
[16:31] <Riddell> hi Sergobot 
[16:31] <Riddell> "couldn't find library libkoversion.so.14"
[16:31] <Riddell> Sergobot: that needs added to a .install file
[16:32] <Riddell> Sergobot: libkoversion.so.14 looks like it's a new library that's used by all of calligra, add it to calligra-libs.install
[16:35] <Riddell> Sergobot: add the .so to not-installed
[16:35] <Riddell> Sergobot: run dh_install --list-missing  to see what's left
[16:50] <Sergobot> Riddell: It built!
[16:50] <Riddell> Sergobot: awooga!
[16:51] <Riddell> Sergobot: but are you sure there's no new files?
[16:51] <joern> hi, I want to report a bug in 15.04, but I'm not sure against which package it should be reported. it is affecting one of the bundled Plasmoids (are they still called Plasmoids in Plasma Next?)
[16:52] <Riddell> maybe plasmoids, maybe plasma widgets
[16:52] <Riddell> joern: anyway what's up?
[16:54] <joern> I got a new testing machine (2008ish notebook) and installed 15.04's alpha on it
[16:54] <joern> I added that plasmoid "System load", but it didn't show anything but a generic icon
[16:55] <joern> hovering with the mouse, there was a error message that org.kde.kio module was not installed
[16:55] <joern> that could be fixed by installing qml-module-org-kde-kio
[16:56] <joern> so I guess that package should be a dependency or at least in recommends of the desktop or something
[16:57] <Riddell> that's part of plasma-widgets-addons
[16:57] <Sergobot> Riddell: why doesn't it install?
[16:57] <Riddell> and it should depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio
[16:57] <Riddell> Sergobot: try   apt -f install  (dpkg has no intelligence about order of installing)
[16:58] <joern> sounds reasonable, thank you Riddell
[16:59] <Riddell> joern: it does depend on qml-module-org-kde-kio, do you have that installed?
[16:59] <Riddell> joern: pastebin  apt-cache policy qml-module-org-kde-kio; apt-cache policy plasma-widgets-addons; apt-cache show plasma-widgets-addons
[17:06] <joern> according to this:
[17:06] <joern> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/plasma-widgets-addons
[17:06] <joern> it's not a dependency
[17:07] <joern> now, I have qml-module-org-kde-kio installed, but it was not after doing the installation
[17:08] <kranzer> Riddell: hi
[17:09] <joern> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9571464/
[17:09] <joern> @ Riddell
[17:09] <Riddell> hi kranzer 
[17:10] <kranzer> Riddell: are there any new tasks?
[17:11] <Riddell> joern: spooky, there's no 5.1.2 version of kdeplasma-addons in the archive but there should be  :(
[17:11] <Riddell> kranzer: two just got published I think
[17:11] <kranzer> Riddell: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5822613091778560 claimed
[17:12] <Riddell> kranzer: but I'm going out in 30 mins for a few hours so I can't help too much
[17:12] <Riddell> kranzer: you know how to update packages?
[17:12] <Riddell> oh and maybe sitter will be around, or maybe he's getting drunk on saki
[17:12] <joern> okay, I'll go watch TV now. have a nice day/evening/night!
[17:13] <kranzer> Riddell: updating?
[17:13] <kranzer> Riddell: can you give me some docs about it?
[17:17] <Riddell> kranzer: you've done a .deb package with me before?
[17:17] <kranzer> yep
[17:19] <Riddell> kranzer: so grab the current package source from launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[17:19] <Riddell> and grab the new upstream tar
[17:19] <Riddell> and  dch  to update the changelog
[17:19] <Riddell> then build and see what breaks
[17:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: kcm-driver-manager doesn't want to build for me :(
[17:20] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:20] <shadeslayer> compile error?
[17:20] <shadeslayer> sitter probably broke it :P
[17:21] <kranzer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/tmp/meow/ its current, right?
[17:22] <Riddell> kranzer: that's the new ones
[17:23] <kranzer> Riddell: could you give me full links to current
[17:23] <kranzer> ?
[17:23] <Riddell> kranzer: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/about-distro
[17:23] <Riddell> copy the URL of the .dsc and run dget on it to download
[17:24] <Riddell> you probably need to update all the build-depends to kf5 libraries and qt5 dev libraries
[17:24] <kranzer> gpg: keyblock resource `/home/kranzer/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error gpg: Signature made пт, 28-лют-2014 12:56:44 +0200 EET using DSA key ID 72F23991 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!!
[17:25] <Riddell> kranzer: that's good it means it compiled (but it can't find a matching gpg key which is fine no need to gpg sign it unless you're uploading)
[17:26] <Sergobot> Riddell: build failed :(
[17:26] <kranzer> Riddell: where to find it on my hdd?
[17:30] <Riddell> Sergobot: running debuild -nc doesn't make it rebuild the .debs if they are already made, for that you need to manually remove the foo.debhelper.log file and remove debian/packagename/
[17:32] <Riddell> kranzer: find what?
[17:32] <kranzer> Riddell: that packages
[17:32] <Riddell> kranzer: after the build the .deb files are in the directory above  cd ..
[17:32] <kranzer> Riddell: which I got by dget
[17:33] <Riddell> kranzer: then that'll get the source files
[17:33] <Riddell> into the current directory
[17:36] <Riddell> Sergobot: looks like there's lots of new files that need to be added to .install files
[17:36] <Riddell> Sergobot: and probably a new package needed for the calligragemini stuff
[17:36]  * Riddell out
[18:21] <Sergobot> Riddell: are you here?
[18:31] <kranzer> Sergobot: он отошёл на несколько часов
[18:31] <Sergobot> kranzer: Please speak English here :)
[18:32] <kranzer> Sergobot: oh, I think, it doesn't matter
[18:32] <kranzer> Sergobot: you're russian, aren't you?
[18:33] <Sergobot> kranzer: Yes, I am
[18:33] <teward> but for the rest of us who aren't... :P
[20:03] <Sergobot> Riddell: could you help me?