| chas | Hi, I am lubuntu user myself for some years now. I want to install lxde into a frien's ubuntu 14.04LTS (sudo apt-get install lxde) but the environment is ugly compared to my beloved lubuntu | 00:59 |
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| chas | what other packages do I need? | 00:59 |
| wxl | chas: why not just install lubuntu? :) | 01:00 |
| chas | lubuntu-desktop seems to be a lot more than what I need | 01:00 |
| wxl | lxde is bloaty compared to lubuntu | 01:00 |
| chas | he is happy with unity | 01:00 |
| wxl | then what does he want? | 01:01 |
| chas | I want him to have both unity and lxde as dm options in lightdm | 01:02 |
| wxl | why? | 01:02 |
| chas | He does now, but the default lxde is no dissapointing as-is... | 01:02 |
| chas | I feel he might like it better | 01:03 |
| chas | but I don't want to change what he has, I just want to add something else | 01:03 |
| chas | so he can use it whenever he feels | 01:04 |
| wxl | why not give him a live cd? | 01:04 |
| wxl | tl;dr don't know how to help you in light of ubuntu | 01:05 |
| chas | thanks anyway :) | 01:06 |
| Kamilion | chas: it's 'lubuntu-core' or 'lubuntu-desktop' | 02:10 |
| Kamilion | chas: the trick to getting it to start up with the lubuntu LXDE theme is: | 02:11 |
| Kamilion | lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE | 02:11 |
| holstein | i think the issue is, that may ruin the unity install | 02:11 |
| holstein | just adding lxde would be easiest.. | 02:12 |
| Kamilion | holstein: just installing lxde gets you the default lxde theme, which is f-gly | 02:12 |
| holstein | i dont go to lxde for the whizz-bang | 02:12 |
| holstein | i think it looks "functional" and light.. | 02:13 |
| Kamilion | lubuntu-core will get you the 'proper' theme expected for lubuntu, versus the 'windows 95 without antialiasing' theme that lxde on it's own gives you | 02:13 |
| Kamilion | holstein: http://puu.sh/dAwjn/786ec154e7.png | 02:14 |
| Kamilion | this is what he is expecting | 02:14 |
| holstein | Kamilion: lol | 02:16 |
| holstein | Kamilion: yeah, im familiar, loosely, with lubuntu ;) | 02:16 |
| ianorlin | it gets wierd with the the themeing and lxqt | 02:16 |
| holstein | though, the issue is, when you install those meta's, it can really break the stock ubuntu setup | 02:16 |
| ianorlin | some theme conflicts but you can still install lxde | 02:16 |
| holstein | and the user doesnt want lxde or lubuntu at all.. | 02:16 |
| ianorlin | yes that is true | 02:16 |
| Kamilion | oh? that's news to me | 02:17 |
| holstein | i can understand not wanting to break the currently enjoyed unity setup | 02:17 |
| chas | Kamilion: so, I installed lxde so far, and I have to add lubuntu-core now | 02:17 |
| Kamilion | I've had unity, kde, and the lubuntu-themed lxde on the same machine | 02:17 |
| holstein | sure.. | 02:17 |
| Kamilion | but so far as I know 'lubuntu-core' should be safe enough to 'just add to the sessions list' | 02:17 |
| Kamilion | Oh | 02:17 |
| Kamilion | wait, I know what you mean now | 02:18 |
| JackFrost | !info lubuntu-artwork | 02:18 |
| ubottu | lubuntu-artwork (source: lubuntu-artwork): artwork for Lubuntu. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.49 (utopic), package size 149 kB, installed size 1048 kB | 02:18 |
| chas | Kamilion: what I want is just what you have mentioned, a nice unity running 100% trouble-free + a nice lxde-a-la-lubuntu running 100% trouble-free | 02:20 |
| Kamilion | holstein: Well, I've been working on a *buntu spin for a xen livecd, and I got myself into some trouble last year with trying to install the lxde stuff without 'the rest of lubuntu' | 02:20 |
| holstein | not me | 02:20 |
| Kamilion | chas: haha, I too would love 'trouble free', unfortunately I live in the real world | 02:20 |
| holstein | i just "sudo apt-get install lxde" and use... though, i personally end up with openbox or some other setup.. | 02:21 |
| Kamilion | holstein: the screenshot I posted is of said Xen LiveISO. :) | 02:21 |
| holstein | i like the live iso idea.. or vm.. i mean, "if it aint broke".. and if the user likes unity, let them use unity | 02:21 |
| Kamilion | https://github.com/kamilion/kamikazi-deploy <--- personally I'm going a step further... If you really want something like unity, stuff it in a VM. (imho) | 02:22 |
| Kamilion | I also tested windows 7, PCI passthroughing it a PCIE GPU. Couldn't tell the difference from a native win7 install for gaming, framerate benchmarks were within 1-2 FPS. | 02:24 |
| holstein | let us discuss in the ot channel.. | 02:25 |
| Kamilion | *shrug* I really have no more to say at the moment. | 02:26 |
| holstein | !ot | 02:26 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 02:26 |
| Kamilion | sorry, but I think "lubuntu-based liveISO" is on topic enough. | 02:26 |
| Kamilion | but I digress and return to silence and lurking. | 02:27 |
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| dyeomans | hello, could somebody here help me with crontab? | 04:51 |
| acecipher | I could maybe try? | 04:54 |
| ianorlin | !ask | 04:54 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 04:54 |
| dyeomans | okay, so im trying to run a bash script | 04:57 |
| ianorlin | you might want to give the script execute permission but make sure it isn't something malicious | 04:59 |
| dyeomans | there's two scripts: one opens firefox to a specific web page and starts audio-recorder, and the other stops audio-recorder and closes firefox | 04:59 |
| dyeomans | i gave both scripts execute permissions (sudo chmod u+x) | 05:00 |
| dyeomans | should they be placed in /bin ? | 05:00 |
| dyeomans_ | oops | 05:05 |
| dyeomans_ | browser closed by accident | 05:05 |
| ianorlin | you don't need them in /bin but use full paths | 05:11 |
| ianorlin | you will need to export environment variables to your display | 05:11 |
| dyeomans_ | how do i do that? | 05:12 |
| ianorlin | export DISPLAY =:0 if you only have one monitor | 05:13 |
| dyeomans_ | bash: export: `=:0': not a valid identifier | 05:13 |
| ianorlin | export $DISPLAY I mean | 05:14 |
| acecipher | SYSTEM VARIABLES! :P | 05:14 |
| dyeomans_ | uhh... | 05:14 |
| dyeomans_ | bash: export: `:0': not a valid identifier bash: export: `=:0': not a valid identifier | 05:14 |
| acecipher | Try it without the space? | 05:15 |
| ianorlin | export $DISPLAY=:0 | 05:15 |
| dyeomans_ | bash: export: `:0=:0': not a valid identifier | 05:15 |
| dyeomans_ | >//< | 05:15 |
| ianorlin | wait you might already be setting that | 05:15 |
| dyeomans_ | so do i just type export? | 05:16 |
| JackFrost | ianorlin: DISPLAY, not $DISPLAY. It expands that to 'export :0 =:0' as you see above. | 05:17 |
| acecipher | ...ahhhh | 05:18 |
| dyeomans_ | i typed in export DISPLAY and got nothing :S | 05:18 |
| acecipher | Try typing in DISPLAY=:0 | 05:18 |
| dyeomans_ | ...still nothing | 05:18 |
| ianorlin | it is hard to do this without seeing what you already have in the script | 05:19 |
| dyeomans_ | want me to paste bin those? | 05:19 |
| ianorlin | ok | 05:20 |
| dyeomans_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9566693/ | 05:21 |
| dyeomans_ | pretty simple | 05:21 |
| dyeomans_ | i've tested them on their own and they work, just not with crontab | 05:21 |
| dyeomans_ | i've tried both crontab -e and editing /etc/crontab | 05:21 |
| dyeomans_ | they are located in /home/dan/midnight-city | 05:24 |
| ianorlin | although the problem with this is with you killing firefox in this way is if you have another firefox open it would kill that | 05:25 |
| dyeomans_ | yeah... i dont know another way of doing that, but it shouldn't really be a problem since this linux machine is just pretty much running servers | 05:25 |
| ianorlin | then why do you have X on it? | 05:26 |
| dyeomans_ | X? | 05:26 |
| ianorlin | X11 for a GUI | 05:26 |
| dyeomans_ | no particular reason... i do occasionally use it to look up something if im too lazy to boot up my windows PC | 05:27 |
| dyeomans_ | i guess i'm not very clever would be the main reason :P | 05:28 |
| ianorlin | ah and you wouldn't be that comfortable administiring it over ssh | 05:29 |
| dyeomans_ | i am comfortable with SSH... but i'm uncomfortable with having a black box i can't interact with directly | 05:30 |
| dyeomans_ | anywho, X wouldn't interfere with cron right? :S | 05:32 |
| ianorlin | no it just makes it a bit more annoying | 05:32 |
| dyeomans_ | how so? | 05:33 |
| ianorlin | as you have to set the right environment variables otherwise it will say can't open display | 05:33 |
| ianorlin | it is not like launhcing from an xterm | 05:34 |
| dyeomans_ | ohh... | 05:34 |
| dyeomans_ | so what would you recommend? | 05:34 |
| ianorlin | ah you would need flash to record from that site | 05:35 |
| dyeomans_ | yes | 05:35 |
| ianorlin | ok that takes using a command line program out | 05:35 |
| wlxmhls | hello guys! how to remove 'character map' from lubuntu? | 05:48 |
| holstein | wlxmhls: you are trying to remove a character map? | 05:48 |
| ianorlin | sudo apt-get purge gucharmap from the command line or remove the gucharmap package in lubuntu-software-center or synaptic | 05:48 |
| ianorlin | I do like that though | 05:49 |
| ianorlin | get useful characters | 05:49 |
| holstein | and, its not saving much space to purge it.. | 05:49 |
| ianorlin | !info gucharmap | 05:49 |
| ubottu | gucharmap (source: gucharmap): Unicode character picker and font browser. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.14.0-1 (utopic), package size 43 kB, installed size 632 kB | 05:49 |
| ianorlin | yeah won't even get you much | 05:50 |
| wlxmhls | thank you all. i am a little squeamish. | 05:57 |
| holstein | squeamish about what? | 05:57 |
| wlxmhls | i want to remove all tools which I dont use. | 05:58 |
| holstein | wlxmhls: sure, i understand that, but, why? | 05:59 |
| holstein | wlxmhls: its not going to save you much space on the disk.. and they are not using resources in the background? so, why bother? | 05:59 |
| holstein | one might prefer starting with nothing and building up, with the mini iso.. | 05:59 |
| holstein | !mini | 05:59 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 05:59 |
| wlxmhls | i think it is my habbit problem. | 05:59 |
| wlxmhls | holstein: thanks! | 06:00 |
| chris349 | I commented out the taskbar in ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf but now the commented line is missing. How can I enable the taskbar again? | 06:20 |
| holstein | you can always generate a fresh config, and start there.. finding the "missing" line, and revert back to your old one | 06:21 |
| ianorlin | create a new user to get a copy of the desktop.conf | 06:22 |
| holstein | yup.. that will generate one | 06:22 |
| JackFrost | diff -u /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/desktop.conf | 06:23 |
| holstein | even better ^ :) | 06:23 |
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| therue | hello | 10:23 |
| silverlion | o/ therue | 10:26 |
| therue | just installed lubuntu on vmware :D | 10:26 |
| silverlion | therue : and? happy? | 10:26 |
| therue | ya i like it | 10:26 |
| therue | i have used linux mint before but had some problems with it | 10:27 |
| therue | like everytime i load a web page in browser, the browser's cpu usage jumps up to 40% cpu usage for some reason | 10:27 |
| therue | but lubuntu seems very light weight | 10:27 |
| therue | so liking it so far | 10:27 |
| therue | nice and clear | 10:27 |
| therue | and hopefully wont have the same problem | 10:27 |
| therue | :) | 10:27 |
| silverlion | try it out | 10:28 |
| silverlion | I | 10:28 |
| silverlion | 'm running my entire hardware with it | 10:28 |
| silverlion | even my home-office | 10:28 |
| therue | i should run software & updates in Preferences right? | 10:28 |
| * silverlion just uses the terminal but for starters the software centre is the right place to look | 10:29 | |
| therue | also, where can i see the drivers that are installed? i can't seem to select the right screen resolution. 1920x1080 isn't available so far | 10:30 |
| silverlion | vmware uses different resolutions if I recall correctly | 10:31 |
| silverlion | you should have a read on the internet about that | 10:31 |
| therue | ah ok | 10:31 |
| silverlion | sorry I'm currently working under windows so I've got no chance to check myself :D | 10:32 |
| silverlion | some things for work still need to be in windows :( | 10:32 |
| therue | :D | 11:47 |
| ignacio | Hi, I need help. The font size on my apps is too big D: is there any way to decrease it? | 12:56 |
| testdr | ignacio: did you controll the correct setting of the x11-server "dpi" value? What is it for what screen(you are using)? | 12:57 |
| ignacio | testdr, just for my laptop screen, its a VM | 12:58 |
| testdr | ignacio: you may need to setup the screen-hardware-emulation then -- inside linux, you can check the "dots per inch" settings in the output of "xdpyinfo" (run in a terminal) | 13:01 |
| ignacio | testdr, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9569624/ | 13:06 |
| testdr | ignacio: already said it - change your vm-settings or try to change the "dots-per-inch" (?to 92x92 instead of this large values) with tools like xrandr (there should be info available how to use it) | 13:11 |
| ignacio | testdr, thanks you for the help! :) | 13:12 |
| testdr | ignacio: if not already found, for example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi | 13:13 |
| teward | silverlion: (really old scrollback poke regarding the VMware issue) vmware allows any resolution that the system drivers can support - it's possible to restrict based on the VM environment settings but in a default VM setup it can go even beyond the screen res for the host system | 15:33 |
| silverlion | teward, thanks for the heads up | 15:43 |
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| yeehi | Is there an RSS feed for the images by which we may automatically download and seed new torrents? What is its URL? | 18:56 |
| ianorlin | yeehiL images for releases or what? | 19:15 |
| ianorlin | you mean the releases of like alpha and beta and final relaeses I am not sure there is | 19:16 |
| ianorlin | I think that would be a good idea to have an rss feed | 19:17 |
| ianorlin | I sadly think there isn't one | 19:21 |
| ianorlin | yeehi_: I don't think there is one but I am not quite sure where to put a feature request in for it | 19:24 |
| ianorlin | argh doesn't have a mailing list | 19:28 |
| yeehi_ | ianorlin, yes, RSS for ISO images of Lubuntu distro | 19:29 |
| yeehi_ | ianorlin, if you could request this RSS feature, that would be great. I don't think it would be hard to implement. | 19:30 |
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| jer_ | hi all ! | 20:24 |
| silverlion | o/ | 20:25 |
| Trickster1 | hello all | 23:20 |
| silverlion | o/ | 23:20 |
| Trickster1 | someone know why on lubuntu my /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart is totally empty ? ^^ | 23:21 |
| Trickster1 | because it is supposed to have my program when i start my pc | 23:22 |
| wxl | Trickster1: see ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart | 23:23 |
| Trickster1 | it is not for lubuntu 14.10 ? i have lubuntu 14.04 | 23:24 |
| Trickster1 | i will check it | 23:24 |
| wxl | anything outside of home is global, but most configs happen user-specific | 23:24 |
| Trickster1 | euh it is empty too :x | 23:25 |
| Trickster1 | i open the leafpad and for both it is empty | 23:26 |
| wxl | did your program open automatically? | 23:26 |
| Trickster1 | i have some programs since i install lubuntu last week like kvirc, chrome, and other stuff but i don't need to have program start actually | 23:27 |
| Trickster1 | but my file doesn't supposed to be empty ? right ? | 23:27 |
| wxl | unless you set it up otherwise | 23:28 |
| Trickster1 | because when i go in lxs session in the menu autostart i still have pulse audio, network and updater for the starter | 23:29 |
| Trickster1 | but in the file i have nothing | 23:29 |
| wxl | not strange | 23:29 |
| Trickster1 | LXsession configuration sorry | 23:29 |
| Trickster1 | that show the program graphically that supposed to be launch on the start | 23:30 |
| Trickster1 | and thoses programmes start well when i enter in my session but the file is empty ... | 23:30 |
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