[00:04] <skellat> wxl: If a person is a member of a LoCo group they are by reference members of pad.lv/~ubuntu-etherpad
[00:07] <skellat> s/a LoCo Group/Not Canonical/g
[00:07] <skellat> Actually it is right both ways
[00:08] <skellat> If you are part of a LoCo team on LP or part of Not Canonical on LP you're indirectly part of ~ubuntu-etherpad without further action
[00:08] <wxl> hahhaha
[00:08]  * wxl wonders if he should join not canonical or if that's a bad political move ;)
[00:08]  * wxl ducks
[00:09] <skellat> Meh: https://launchpad.net/~skellat/+participation
[00:09] <wxl> oh hey lyz is a member
[00:09] <wxl> if lyz is in, i'm all over it XD
[00:09] <popey> I think i made that team
[00:09] <popey> and was the first person to leave it ☻
[00:09] <wxl> hahahh
[00:11] <skellat> The amount of things I have indirect membership in these days by dint of LoCo Council membership is growing
[00:11] <skellat> And that is disturbing
[00:12]  * skellat goes to run listadmin
[00:12] <popey> launchpad just times out when I visit https://launchpad.net/~popey/+participation ☻
[00:12] <wxl> yiiikes
[00:12] <skellat> popey: It tells me I am forbidden from seeing that page
[00:12] <popey> interesting
[00:13] <popey> ah well
[01:09] <jose> well, lp may have its reasons ;)
[01:10] <elfy> jose: it will have :)
[01:10] <elfy> frankly  while it's not perfect - because nothing is - it works for me with the little bit I do
[01:11] <elfy> if people who use LP daily constantly see a need for change - then I would try and work with that - but I WOULD stand behind them
[01:12] <elfy> them being the ones who *really* need to use it
[01:12] <elfy> skellat: I just timeout trying to see popey ...
[01:12] <elfy> might be deliberate :D
[01:44] <pleia2> wxl: hah, popey gave the team to me when he joined Canonical, sneaky guy
[01:45] <pleia2> it's been kind of fun to see who has joined/left over the years, often times it's the way I learn that they've left
[01:46] <belkinsa> There was a point why I posted it as blog post, to get more readers outside the mailing-list.  I guess that was a bad move.
[01:46] <pleia2> belkinsa: I wouldn't call it "bad" - you can share as you like, it just isn't very helpful if you want discussion on the mailing list
[01:47] <belkinsa> Right, right.  I think I lost my train of thought there.
[01:47] <belkinsa> When posting the thread.
[01:48] <elfy> belkinsa: I think the thing from where I stand is - blog alone is bad :)
[01:48]  * belkinsa nods
[01:48] <elfy> and I'm reminded to mail you if nothing else :)
[01:49] <elfy> belkinsa: I very rarely even do more than skim read blog posts
[01:49] <elfy> of course I'm not all :)
[01:49] <elfy> if I read more than the headline you've won - or lost
[01:52] <pleia2> maybe if you title the blog post "Launchpad is terrible, you'll be a astonished when you find out how"
[01:52] <pleia2> :)
[01:53] <belkinsa> Lol.
[02:01] <benonsoftware> (Just read belkinsa's post about LP) Not sure if I imagine it or not but I thought LP was placed into "Maintaince Only" mode a while back? :)
[02:02] <pleia2> that's the other thing, discussion becomes fragmented between blog comments, mailing list, now IRC ;)
[02:02] <pleia2> benonsoftware: yep, afaik it still is
[02:03] <pleia2> it's been a discussion point on the ubuntu-community-team mailing list
[02:03] <benonsoftware> Ah, I'm glad I didn't imagine it then. :)
[02:04] <elfy> nope - no imaging benonsoftware :)
[02:04] <benonsoftware> heh
[02:04]  * pleia2 passes elfy some warm milk
[02:04] <pleia2> isn't it the middle of the night there?
[02:19] <elfy> O_O
[02:19] <elfy> milk !!!
[02:19] <elfy> oh wait ...
[02:19] <elfy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3gVzE2YxWw
[02:27] <benonsoftware> I've just been looking at the LeadershipActions pad and would be willing to help with the last set of work items. Is there anything stopping someone helping with those ones?
[02:27] <elfy> benonsoftware: the thing is what we need
[02:28] <elfy> is not people adding a name because no-one has - but adding a name because foo thinks it is important
[02:28] <benonsoftware> Ah, okay
[02:29] <elfy> I would rather have a bunch of blanks - and a bunch of names who'll follow through
[02:29] <pleia2> benonsoftware follows through \o/ add your name :D
[02:29] <elfy> benonsoftware: you know me - you know how I think :)
[02:29] <elfy> pleia2: yep :)
[02:30]  * benonsoftware nods
[02:30] <elfy> benonsoftware: I would love you to do so - I would just want you to to do so when you know what's needed and know you can help
[02:31] <elfy> and I know you CAN help :)
[02:31] <benonsoftware> Yep :)
[02:32] <elfy> :)
[02:34] <benonsoftware> I'll start to think about them and how I can help with them.
[02:36] <elfy> benonsoftware: that's cool :)
[02:36] <elfy> benonsoftware: UBT had a bunch of "I'll do that's" doesn't work unless you follow uo :)
[02:37] <benonsoftware> Yeah
[02:38] <elfy> that is something  that I really don't want now
[02:38] <elfy> so - if you see something you can do and will do - add your name :)
[02:38] <benonsoftware> Sure thing
[02:39] <elfy> it really is better to have 1 thing actually be looked at and dealt with than myths imho
[02:39] <benonsoftware> Certainly
[02:43] <elfy> you know how I look at things, if you can remember, nothing has changed ;)
[02:45] <benonsoftware> :)
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[08:18] <dholbach> hey dpm - how are you doing? can you take a look at lp:~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1403818? also, what's your opinion on bug 1404137?
[08:18] <ubot2`> bug 1404137 in Ubuntu App Developer site "Create stop-gap page for /zh-cn/community" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1404137
[08:18] <dpm> morning dholbach
[08:20] <dpm> dholbach, which pages are linking to the zh-cn/community page?
[08:20] <dholbach> loads
[08:20] <dholbach> wherever we say "if you have problems, get in touch with someone else"
[08:21] <dpm> dholbach, ok
[08:21] <dpm> dholbach, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/1403818/+merge/245121 approved
[08:21] <dholbach> thanks
[08:22] <dpm> dholbach, I think this week might be a bit challenging to find someone to write the page in Chinese, it seems XiaoGuo and some other folks are traveling
[08:23] <dholbach> dpm, that's why I made this bug just for a stop-gap measure - for now I think it'd be even OK to just drop the English page in there
[08:23] <dholbach> better than "add content here" :)
[08:31] <dholbach> dpm, it also looks like changing the /publish IA broke a couple of links from myapps
[08:31] <dholbach> I pinged the myapps team about it
[08:32] <dpm> dholbach, I think we can set up redirects for that in the meantime. I saw mhall119 was setting some up without IS intervention, but I don't know how to do it myself
[08:32] <dholbach> I don't know either
[08:36] <dpm> dholbach, sent e-mail about the community page
[08:37] <dholbach> thanks
[08:46]  * dholbach goes back to fixing links and 作用域 occurrences
[08:53] <dholbach> dpm, https://developer.ubuntu.com/zh-cn/apps/qml/tutorials/writing-qml-acceptance-tests/ also has no content - shall I put the English content in there as a placeholder?
[08:54] <dpm> dholbach, no, we decided to not translate that page for now, as it's not essential. I'd rather not have mixed content unless the page is essential. The only English content that we should put in there until the pages are translated is the HTML5 section
[08:54] <dholbach> ok
[08:54] <dholbach> shall I remove a link to it from elsewhere?
[08:55] <dholbach> it's linked to from https://developer.ubuntu.com/zh-cn/apps/qml/tutorials/
[08:55] <dpm> dholbach, good point, yes please
[08:55] <dholbach> I'll see if it's linked from elsewhere as well
[08:55] <dpm> thanks!
[08:56] <dpm> dholbach, here is an example of an essential page that could not be translated in time. I added a note in Chinese mentioning that it'll be translated soon: http://developer.ubuntu.com/zh-cn/publish/web/packaging/
[08:56] <dholbach> ah ok, yep I saw that earlier
[13:14] <mhall119> dpm: dholbach: to make a redirect create a new page with the original slug, then in advanced settings set the redirect URL
[13:14] <dpm> mhall119, ah, nice, thanks!
[13:14] <dholbach> ah ok
[13:14] <dholbach> good to know
[13:14] <mhall119> un-tick the "in menu" circle in the pages list
[13:24] <mhall119> dpm: FYI, picture uploading on the blog is fixed
[13:25] <dpm> mhall119, awesome, thanks! What was it in the end?
[13:52] <czajkowski> attempting to get to inbox 0 is proving very difficult today
[13:52] <mhall119> dpm: the ckeditor setup Zinnia used was trying to do some post-upload processing of the image and was corrupting it
[13:52] <czajkowski> last day of work and have a shiny new laptop I've yet to play with :(
[13:52] <mhall119> dpm: so there was a file in the right place in the Swift bucket, but it wasn't a valid image file
[13:53] <popey> czajkowski: close email client, that's equivalent to inbox 0 for me ㋛
[13:53] <popey> I can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist.
[13:53] <popey> This is why I like having two browser profiles, one for home, one for work. When I'm not at work I close the work tab and at that point work doesn't exist.
[13:53] <czajkowski> popey: oh how I wish :(
[13:54] <czajkowski> I have yet to download new Ubuntu to make usb for X1
[13:54] <czajkowski> need to get through as many requests for January done this week and off to mountain view 2nd week so trying to get as much done today so I'm not online over xmas
[13:54] <czajkowski> I can see me being online... :(
[15:35] <dpm> dholbach, mhall119, I've got a call that conflicts with the community team Q&A, so I can probably only join 20 or 30 minutes in. Would you mind starting the hangout?
[15:38] <dholbach> ugh
[15:38] <dholbach> I totally forgot about it
[15:39] <dholbach> sure, starting
[15:42] <dpm> thanks dholbach
[15:43] <dholbach> ubuntuonair.com is updated
[15:43] <dholbach> I'll inform Twitter and FB
[15:43] <dholbach> can somebody do G+?
[15:43]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[15:43] <dpm> I can
[15:43] <dholbach> great
[15:44] <silverlion> hey there
[15:45] <czajkowski> regarding UoA is the code for the page somewher on LP ?  like how you have the page and G+ just work so nicely plus the irc channel ?
[15:47] <dpm> czajkowski, jose might know
[15:48] <dpm> dholbach, g+ updated
[15:48] <dholbach> yeehaw
[15:49] <czajkowski> dpm: ty
[15:54]  * mhall119 also forgot about the Q&A, is that in 7 minutes?
[15:54] <mhall119> czajkowski: that's all done in HTML in a standard Wordpress page
[15:54] <czajkowski> mhall119: ahh right
[15:55] <czajkowski> so nothing too fancy
[15:55] <mhall119> czajkowski: nope
[15:55] <mhall119> just iframes and stuff
[15:56] <czajkowski> cool thanks
[16:56] <wxl> pleia2: :)
[16:58]  * dholbach hugs you all
[16:58]  * belkinsa hugs back
[16:59] <dholbach> have a great holidays/break/christmas/time!
[16:59] <dholbach> big big hugs to you all
[18:10] <jose> czajkowski: as mhall119 said, it's all html under wordpress, with an irc bot running here, and IFTTT for twitter with the calendar
[18:11] <czajkowski> jose: cool thanks
[21:53] <wxl> why can't i get to my pad? :( http://pad.ubuntu.com/O0j1wrmUcs
[21:53] <wxl> ooops
[21:53] <wxl> wrong one :)
[21:54] <wxl> http://pad.ubuntu.com/aRrdnolxlq
[21:54] <wxl> i assume this is not an etherpad problem so much as an ubuntu instance problem
[21:54] <wxl> sorry if this is the wrong place for this. i don't know what *IS* the right place. #canonical-sysadmin?
[21:55] <pleia2> yeah, #canonical-sysadmin and if they are asleep, ticket to rt@ubuntu.com (they may ask for a ticket anyway)
[21:55] <wxl> thx and sorry :)
[21:55] <pleia2> looks like that's the only pad that's gone sideways
[21:55] <wxl> thank god
[21:56] <pleia2> with etherpad sometimes the renderer on the back end gets stuck for just one pad, hopefully an easy fix
[22:20] <jose> wxl, pleia2: Canonical is on vacation until next year
[22:21] <pleia2> haha, what?
[22:21] <pleia2> ah europeans :)
[22:23] <jose> :P
[22:29] <czajkowski> pleia2: :p
[22:29] <czajkowski> not our fault we embrace holidays
[22:29] <czajkowski> some people are working on monday and maybe tuesday next week
[22:29] <czajkowski> but most are finishing today until January 5th
[22:29] <czajkowski> :D
[22:35] <jose> well, I'm on holidays until April
[22:36] <czajkowski> now that's just greedy :p
[22:37] <czajkowski> few more jira tickets and almost done..
[22:37] <jose> don't blame me! university put it that way :P
[22:38] <pleia2> lol
[23:21] <benonsoftware> Just a chart I made with the amount of new Ubuntu members for each cycle https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aBfjiPZOZy6jYsaUZvRbOy5nlhCZlvFkBhOJPLPPbPg/edit?usp=sharing
[23:21] <benonsoftware> It doesn't count people who've left or are members via different teams (dev, Kubuntu, etc.)