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nooberiffic | So. On a lark I installed Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 7. Now, though it seems to be working, I can't figure out anything to actually do with it and can't seem to find any manuals. Any advice? | 06:32 |
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lotuspsychje | ubuntu-touch has an intro howto use it the first time | 06:38 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:13 |
lotuspsychje | morning | 07:14 |
Nirmik_Kale_RnD | eu na? | 08:02 |
Nirmik_Kale_RnD | 81,82 ghetlela ahe | 08:02 |
Nirmik_Kale_RnD | sorry | 08:02 |
Nirmik_Kale_RnD | wrong channel | 08:02 |
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JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Underdog Day! :-D | 09:53 |
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nandersson | Hi, is there some place where I can buy Ubuntu-tablets here in Europe? | 11:14 |
nandersson | none on Amazon? | 11:15 |
beuno | nandersson, there are none in the market at the moment | 11:17 |
nandersson | beuno, ah, a pity :) | 11:17 |
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mardy | what is the latest stable image? #12? | 13:31 |
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dobey | mardy: on mako? i think so | 14:51 |
mardy | dobey: thanks | 14:59 |
jcbjoe | im going to give ubuntu-touch a go again | 15:32 |
dobey | jcbjoe: are you using multirom or you just flashing between android and ubuntu as the only system on the phone? | 15:51 |
jcbjoe | ubuntu will be the only system on the phone | 15:52 |
jcbjoe | ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 < -- this command | 15:53 |
jcbjoe | i smell coffee | 15:55 |
jcbjoe | dobey: the actualy handsets with the finished models won't be out till like 2015 right ? | 15:55 |
dobey | jcbjoe: right | 15:56 |
jcbjoe | Q1 ? | 15:56 |
dobey | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february | 15:56 |
jcbjoe | but of course Europe! | 15:57 |
jcbjoe | everything is in europe! | 15:58 |
jcbjoe | dobey: this is r12 build or if im saying it right .. it feels snappy also scopes looks way diffrent from r10 and r11 | 16:00 |
dobey | eh? | 16:02 |
dobey | oh, the new scope management ui is in rtm now | 16:02 |
jcbjoe | the last time i was on ubuntu-touch in the about section it said r10 .. it says r12 now .. it feels very snappy/fast .. the scopes is diffrent and it feels very smooth just the whole thing | 16:03 |
dobey | the scopes themselves should be the same | 16:03 |
dobey | what changed is the ui for managing which scopes you have favorited and such | 16:03 |
jcbjoe | oh yea i can uncheck or check a start next to it | 16:04 |
jcbjoe | i got to read up on how to use scopes | 16:06 |
mardy | jdstrand: ping | 16:07 |
jdstrand | mardy: hey | 16:14 |
mardy | jdstrand: hi! I think I'm ready to test the plugin confinement branch, but I need the plugins to actually be confined :-) | 16:14 |
mardy | jdstrand: do you know when you'll be able to work on the apparmor side of the issue? | 16:15 |
jdstrand | mardy: not today, it will have to be after the holiday, but I can advise you on how to | 16:17 |
jdstrand | mardy: create a click that ships it, so that there is a label. don't mind that crt fails, just make sure the click is otherwise setup correctly | 16:18 |
mardy | jdstrand: well' I won't have time until after the holidays either, but if you think you'll be busy even after the holidays, then maybe you could send me an email with the infos | 16:18 |
jdstrand | mardy: then try running it. look for denials in /var/log/syslog | 16:18 |
jdstrand | mardy: then adjust /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_your_click_profile | 16:18 |
jdstrand | running "sudo apparmor_parser -r /var/lib/apparmor/profiles/click_your_click_profile' after each time you change it | 16:19 |
jdstrand | mardy: eventually you'll have a set of rules that we can add to a policy group | 16:19 |
jdstrand | (and you can add those to the bug) | 16:20 |
mardy | jdstrand: wait... AFAIK, it will have to be s/adjust/create/ | 16:20 |
jdstrand | I won't be able to spend a ton of time on it, cause I've got a lot of snappy stuff to do, so it would be helpful if you iterated and thought about the rules to make sure they were sane | 16:20 |
mardy | jdstrand: or are profiles already created even for account plugins? | 16:20 |
jdstrand | mardy: I'm saying just treat it like an app for the moment and you'll see all the denials as you try to use it | 16:21 |
mardy | jdstrand: OK, so I should also adjust the test so that we call aa_change_profile on an existing app profile | 16:23 |
jdstrand | do you have an example click already? | 16:23 |
mardy | jdstrand: reminders-app could be one | 16:25 |
jdstrand | let me look at it | 16:25 |
mardy | jdstrand: it comes with the evernote plugin | 16:25 |
jdstrand | mardy: ok | 16:33 |
jdstrand | mardy: this is the reminders manifest: | 16:33 |
jdstrand | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9571128/ | 16:34 |
jdstrand | mardy: notice how "evernote-account-plugin" doesn't specify "apparmor" in its list of hooks? | 16:34 |
mardy | jdstrand: yep | 16:36 |
mardy | jdstrand: do you think I can add it there? | 16:37 |
jdstrand | mardy: I know you can :) | 16:37 |
mardy | jdstrand: cool | 16:37 |
jdstrand | mardy: just do "apparmor": "evernote-account-plugin.apparmor" (or whatever) | 16:37 |
jdstrand | mardy: the question then becomes how much do you want to start with | 16:38 |
jdstrand | for the first pass, use: | 16:38 |
jdstrand | { | 16:38 |
jdstrand | "template": "unconfined", | 16:38 |
jdstrand | "policy_groups": [], | 16:38 |
jdstrand | "policy_version": 1.2 | 16:38 |
jdstrand | } | 16:38 |
mardy | jdstrand: ok | 16:39 |
jdstrand | mardy: that will give it the label you are looking for, but should allow everything through | 16:39 |
mardy | jdstrand: ah, and another easy :-) question: if aa_change_profile() fails, I guess I should exit the process, right? | 16:39 |
mardy | jdstrand: it would fail, if I specify an unexisting profile, right? | 16:40 |
jdstrand | mardy: once you are satisfied that is working, you might change the template to "ubuntu-push-helper" since it is more minimal that "ubuntu-sdk" and it might give you a better idea of the denial and what should be in the policy group | 16:41 |
jdstrand | aa_change_profile() should fail, yes, but I'm going to point you at tyhicks for that question | 16:42 |
jdstrand | tyhicks: can you advise mardy on aa_change_profile() and perhaps if he should use aa_change_onexec() instead? | 16:42 |
tyhicks | sure | 16:42 |
tyhicks | mardy: correct, those calls will fail if the profile doesn't exist | 16:43 |
jdstrand | mardy: (re ubuntu-push-helper-- do note there are explicit denials in there, so be sure to check the policy to make sure it will do what you want | 16:43 |
tyhicks | mardy: if you care about detecting that specific condition, -1 will be returned and errno will be set to ENOENT | 16:44 |
tyhicks | mardy: re aa_change_profile() vs aa_change_onexec(), I prefer to use aa_change_onexec() | 16:45 |
tyhicks | mardy: I like it a little better because you can call it in advance, do other things, and then you don't change into the new profile until the call to exec() | 16:45 |
tyhicks | mardy: if you use aa_change_profile(), it should be called exactly before the call to exec() | 16:46 |
tyhicks | mardy: otherwise, the profile that you're changing to will need to allow all of the things you do between the aa_change_profile() and the exec() since you've already changed into the new profile | 16:46 |
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mardy | tyhicks: I have one unconfined process which spawns several child processes via QProcess | 17:09 |
mardy | tyhicks: can I call aa_change_onexec() more than once, in that parent process? | 17:09 |
mardy | tyhicks: or do I have to call aa_change_onexec() after fork()? | 17:12 |
tyhicks | mardy: are they processes or threads? | 17:14 |
tyhicks | (I assume processes from the name "QProcess" but I'd like to be sure) | 17:14 |
mardy | tyhicks: processes | 17:15 |
tyhicks | mardy: you'd probably want to call aa_change_onexec() after fork() | 17:17 |
tyhicks | mardy: that way you don't have to worry about your parent process calling into a library that does who-knows-what and may end up spawning a process that's unexpectedly confined | 17:18 |
tyhicks | mardy: I'd recommend something like this: fork() -> aa_change_onexec() -> do other process initialization stuff -> exec() | 17:19 |
mardy | tyhicks: OK, thanks | 17:22 |
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dobey | whee splits | 19:08 |
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Zelenka | Hi :) | 19:26 |
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