[06:03] <bduk1> More almal
[06:08] <Kilos> hi bduk1 and others
[06:08] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:29] <theblazehen> Hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:29] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[06:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: since you a DIY guy you may like this idea: 
[06:30] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/a/CGEY7
[06:30] <Kilos> lemme see
[06:30] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:33] <Kilos> one doesnt do much solder anymore nowadays, not much you can change on motherboards anymore with modern pc boards
[06:33] <theblazehen> I fixed PC :)
[06:33] <theblazehen> Ya
[06:33] <Kilos> soldering
[06:33] <Kilos> what did you find?
[06:33] <theblazehen> I think of got a bit hot or something
[06:33] <theblazehen> I turned it on this morning and it worked
[06:34] <Kilos> maybe a good spring clean
[06:34] <Kilos> check where air comes out and look for dust
[06:34] <theblazehen> Ya
[06:34] <theblazehen> I'm just leaving case off for now
[06:35] <theblazehen> Case was hot yesterday...
[06:35] <Kilos> ah
[06:35] <Kilos> that other okey had that prob
[06:35] <Kilos> um
[06:35] <Kilos> the one in ceres
[06:36] <theblazehen> Ah. Don't remember him
[06:36] <Kilos> golynx
[06:37] <theblazehen> Ah
[06:41] <Kilos> was a major job with him
[06:41] <Kilos> he wanted ubuntu because windows over heated the lappy\
[06:42] <Kilos> sent him a dvd and ubuntu made it worse
[06:42] <Kilos> hehe
[06:53] <nuvolari> o/ oh hi
[06:53] <nuvolari> morning oom Kilos, theblazehen 
[06:53] <theblazehen> Hi nuvolari 
[06:53] <theblazehen> Ah yeah, I remember
[06:55] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[06:55] <Kilos> gaanit seun?
[06:58]  * superfly lurks
[07:00] <theblazehen> Hi superfly 
[07:00] <superfly> hi theblazehen
[07:00]  * superfly is installing KDE 5
[07:01] <superfly> although, they've made KDE much more modular, so now you don't have "KDE 5" you have "Frameworks 5 plus Plasma 5"
[07:01] <theblazehen> superfly: looks real good with the breeze dark theme, but too buggy for me
[07:01] <theblazehen> Yeah
[07:01] <superfly> theblazehen: haven't tried it in a while
[07:01] <theblazehen> I tried it a month or so ago
[07:01] <theblazehen> Back to awesome for me
[07:01] <theblazehen> And hopefully to i3 soon
[07:02] <superfly> awesome and i3 are just too nerdy for me
[07:02] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[07:02] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:21]  * superfly logs out to try KDE 5
[07:21] <Kilos> sjoe
[07:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> I considered awesome and i3 but it turns out I'm too lazy to be bothered :-D
[07:47] <Kilos> lol
[07:47] <Kilos> old age catching up
[07:51] <superfly> not bad, not bad
[07:51] <superfly> needs some tweaking, but not unusable
[08:04] <Kilos> lol
[08:45] <charl> good morning
[08:45] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:45]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:45] <charl> hi Kilos, superfly, theblazehen 
[08:45] <Kilos> hi charl 
[08:46] <charl> hi Kilos 
[08:46] <charl> how are you this morning
[08:46] <charl> last werk day of the week, tomorrow holiday!
[08:47] <Kilos> good ty, cant have cyber coffee and ricoffy they will resonate in my inners
[08:47] <Kilos> how are you
[08:47] <charl> good good
[08:47] <Kilos> is good good better than good
[08:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:48] <charl> yes :)
[08:48] <charl> especially because it is friday
[08:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:49] <charl> Maaz: danke
[08:49] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:49] <charl> sehr gut, sehr gut
[08:50] <charl> ich mag diese kaffee
[08:58] <Kilos> lol
[09:00] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee on
[09:00]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:00] <nuvolari> \o/
[09:01] <Kilos> lol
[09:01] <Kilos> ok ok Maaz coffee please
[09:01] <Kilos> ai!
[09:01] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[09:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:03] <Kilos> dont geek type jobs calm down around this time like everything else
[09:03] <Kilos> except dairy farming of course
[09:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for nuvolari and Kilos!
[09:04] <Kilos> Maaz: dankie man
[09:04] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[09:08] <Kilos> haha i beat them
[09:08] <Kilos> http://businesstech.co.za/news/general/76322/sa-life-expectancy-declines/
[09:11] <Kilos> the big boss said i could have 3 score and ten, plus some for good behaviour
[09:19] <nuvolari> thank you Maaz 
[09:19] <nuvolari> Maaz: thank you
[09:19] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay :-)
[09:20] <nuvolari> oom Kilos, no, it doesn't calm down, and then some companies wants to attempt Friday-before-everyone-is-on-leave-launches
[09:20] <Kilos> eish
[09:20] <nuvolari> in the online world, that's a horror-story
[09:21] <Kilos> looks like they all crazy
[09:21] <Kilos> only we are the sane ones
[09:21] <inetpro> story of my life
[09:21] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:21] <Kilos> hi there inetpro 
[09:23] <inetpro> the only way too calm things down is to shut down 
[09:29] <Kilos> yourself?
[09:29] <Kilos> or the equipment
[09:36] <Squirm> morning people
[09:37] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:30] <theblazehen> Hi charl 
[10:31] <theblazehen> Hi Squirm 
[10:31] <Squirm> going to find some lunch
[11:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> byeee
[11:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> time for burgers and beer
[11:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> not in that order
[13:01] <inetpro> Kilos: the equipment
[13:01] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:01] <inetpro> unfortunately in this modern world of ours, that is not going to happen
[13:01] <Kilos> oh ya
[13:20] <Squirm> Kilos: we're flat out
[13:21] <Squirm> Working 10-12 hours
[13:21] <Kilos> eish Squirm 
[13:21] <Squirm> Not really in IT though, just shipping our stock
[13:21] <Squirm> for Christmas
[13:21] <Kilos> oh ya
[13:22] <Squirm> we finish 2pm on Wednesday and back at work on Saturday(Though I have the day off)
[13:22] <Kilos> sjoe
[13:23] <Kilos> even the dairy farmer milks morning and evening but5 the has rest of day off
[13:23] <Kilos> only the cows wont allow a day off
[13:59] <Kilos> hmm... banana sandwich be lekker
[14:36] <inetpro> wb theblazehen
[14:41] <theblazehen> ty inetpro
[14:41] <theblazehen> was rebooting the bouncer
[14:42] <charl> banana and peanut butter milkshake
[14:42] <charl> that stuff is criminal
[14:42] <charl> i make it a couple of times every week
[14:42] <charl> use peanut butter and other nut butters with no additives
[14:43] <charl> Kilos ^^
[14:43] <inetpro> charl: how do you make it?
[14:43] <Kilos> lol
[14:43] <charl> inetpro: i just put peanut butter (etc) together with various bananas and some tap water in the blender and blend it
[14:43] <charl> really simple :)
[14:44] <charl> if you like milk you can add that too, but i don't
[14:44] <Kilos> milkshake must have milf
[14:44] <Kilos> milk
[14:44] <charl> milf... no i think not :P
[14:44] <charl> milk yes
[14:44] <Kilos> flavours are your choice
[14:44] <charl> smoothie is a better name
[14:44] <charl> not milkshake
[14:44] <Kilos> hehe you getting cheeky again
[14:44] <charl> :D
[14:45] <Kilos> ive never had a smothie
[14:45] <Kilos> but many milkshakes
[14:45]  * inetpro wonders about the taste 
[14:45] <Kilos> favourite is raspberry
[14:45] <charl> banana and blueberry is also very nice
[14:45] <charl> we buy blueberries here imported from south africa
[14:45] <inetpro> should actually try it, but rather with milk not with water
[14:46] <charl> do it inetpro ! it's really nice but don't use peanut butter with salt in otherwise the taste can becoe overpowering
[14:46] <charl> unless you like that of course
[14:46] <Kilos> just blend banana in milk and taste inetpro 
[14:46] <Kilos> then add other stuff and tatse all the time
[14:47] <inetpro> banana in milk I know, but with peanut butter!? Hmm...
[14:47] <inetpro> don't know
[14:47] <Kilos> when i starts tasting not lekker you are either full or you added something not lekker
[14:47] <Kilos> it
[14:47] <inetpro> unfortunately no bananas and no unsalted peanut butter in available at the moment
[14:47] <Kilos> peanut butter be lekker stuff man
[14:48] <Kilos> hehe
[14:49]  * inetpro shall try it asap
[14:49] <charl> inetpro: if you can buy unsalted grilled peanuts it is easy to make your own in a food processor
[14:50] <inetpro> oh, so you take even crunchy peanuts as well?
[14:50] <charl> yes just chop them up really finely
[14:50] <inetpro> interesting
[14:50] <charl> it becomes almost like peanut butter
[14:50] <charl> when it turns buttery you just scoop it out and straight onto bread or into the blender
[14:51] <charl> but for good result they will need to be at least lightly grilled
[14:51] <charl> if they are raw you can also do stuff with it but it's a bit different
[14:51] <charl> the taste is different i mean
[14:51] <inetpro> and with a bit of honey, sounds lovely
[14:52] <charl> yes ! honey and peanut butter go really well together
[14:52] <charl> but with bananas too it becomes too sweet for me
[14:52] <charl> depends on personal taste of course, and on how ripe the bananas are
[14:52] <Kilos> only prob is peanut butter doesnt last as long once family tastes how lekker it can be
[14:52] <charl> true Kilos :D
[14:53] <Kilos> haha
[14:53] <charl> problem with most commercial peanut butters are that they contain hydrogenated fats, additives, sugar and salt
[14:53] <Kilos> its something for single peeps methinks
[14:53] <Kilos> that dont matter man
[14:54] <charl> it's like margarine - it's essentially plastic
[14:54] <Kilos> lol
[14:54] <charl> they use the same process to make plastic (hydrogenation)
[14:55] <charl> turning a liquid into a solid by modifying the chemical structure so the molecules stick together
[14:56] <charl> well i mean they stick together in any case, but not in fixed form i mean
[14:56] <theblazehen> Finally my organic chemistry stuff is coming in handy...
[14:56] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:00] <Kilos> inetpro: try tropica peach from supermarkets
[15:00] <Kilos> blenned fruit milk drink
[15:00] <Kilos> blended
[15:00] <Kilos> very lekker
[15:04]  * inetpro hates how the price of fruit juices in the shops has gone berserk
[15:05] <inetpro> even coca-cola is cheaper than fruit juice these days
[15:10] <Kilos> yeah
[16:04]  * theblazehen is starting to like i3
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:14]  * theblazehen is liking i3 with awesome keybinds
[16:14] <Kilos> human beings are funny animals, they get accustomed to anything sooner or later
[16:14] <Kilos> screenshot?
[16:16] <theblazehen> screenshit: http://imgur.com/5gjb0Ok
[16:16] <theblazehen> shot* -_-
[16:17] <theblazehen> basically the default config
[16:20] <Kilos> ai! you peeps and your funny stuff
[16:23] <theblazehen> haha, it's fun
[16:23] <theblazehen> And upgrades only a few KB for it :)
[16:25] <Kilos> but so ugly and hards to use
[16:26] <Kilos> look at this
[16:26] <Kilos> http://picpaste.com/pretty-qjF9fd4r.png
[16:26] <Kilos> see top panel on left
[16:26] <Squirm> Home time
[16:26] <Squirm> finally
[16:27] <Kilos> workspace switcher
[16:27] <Squirm> been here since 7
[16:27] <theblazehen> hard to use? Me and charl (IIRC) would disagree.
[16:27] <theblazehen> hi Squirm
[16:27] <Kilos> go safe Squirm 
[16:27] <Squirm> and yesterday was 7-19h30
[16:27] <theblazehen> but ya, looks nice
[16:27] <Squirm> Well - Sushi time
[16:27] <Kilos> 10 workspaces
[16:27] <Kilos> you choose on by clicking on it
[16:28] <Kilos> so certain well used things like email pidgin and konversation ahd opera etc have their own workspace
[16:28] <theblazehen> 10 here too :)
[16:29] <Kilos> not as well organized man
[16:29] <Kilos> you need good eyes to run that
[16:29] <theblazehen> heh, I like it
[16:30] <Kilos> well enjoy 
[16:30] <Kilos> charl likes it too ya
[16:30] <Kilos> im sure i heard today its too nerdy
[16:31] <Kilos> took me a lifetime to get a bit geeky. cant live long enough to become nerdy too
[17:03] <Kilos> Maaz: seen bushteck
[17:03] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who bushteck is
[17:03] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:04] <Kilos> Maaz: seen bushtec
[17:04] <Maaz> Kilos: I don't know who bushtec is
[17:04] <Kilos> oi!
[17:04] <Kilos> Maaz: seen bushtech
[17:04] <Maaz> Kilos: bushtech was last seen 27 days, 4 hours, 4 minutes and 57 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-22 04:59:30 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-22 21:07:02 PST
[17:04] <Kilos> whew
[17:22] <theblazehen> Kilos: you got some nice rain now?
[17:25] <Kilos> nothing
[17:27] <theblazehen> Ai. Lots in pta now
[17:27] <Kilos> wow
[17:28] <theblazehen> Maybe you get lucky still
[17:31] <Kilos> ya we hope so
[17:43] <Kilos> hi deegee  hows davey doing
[17:43] <Kilos> drussel died
[18:18] <captine> evening all
[18:19] <inetpro> hello captine
[18:23] <Kilos> hi captine 
[18:23]  * Kilos watching some skifi thing
[18:23] <Kilos> agents of sheild
[18:25] <captine> Kilos, sounds like fun
[18:25] <Kilos> yeah lekker series
[18:27]  * theblazehen is watching the dictator (again)
[18:27] <Kilos> lol
[18:29] <superfly> everyone in my company waltzed off to the local bar for drinks at 3:30 this afternoon
[18:29] <superfly> not much work happening here
[18:29] <superfly> inetpro: did you see my README?
[18:29] <charl> nice i3 setup theblazehen 
[18:30] <charl> i have been using it for 18 months now
[18:30] <theblazehen> charl: ty :) Basically the default still
[18:30] <charl> and have never looked back
[18:30] <charl> mine is totally default too :P
[18:30] <theblazehen> lemme see if I have a scrot of my awesomeWM still, unless you remember how it looks? I wanna theme it to look similar if it's possible..
[18:31] <charl> on ubuntu i just install the i3 package and then add exec --no-startup-id xsetroot -solid "#000000" to the i3 config
[18:31] <charl> oh and i have bindsym $mod+p exec "i3lock -c 000000"
[18:31] <charl> the rest i leave as is
[18:31] <theblazehen> ah, I use $mod+p for dmenu, like in awesome
[18:31] <theblazehen> I use $mod+{Left,Right} for next/previous workspace
[18:32] <charl> i might add a few extra key bindings for some stuff i use regularly but i try to keep it to a minimum
[18:32] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:32] <theblazehen> I have might map my power keys on keyboard to something
[18:33] <theblazehen> I wonder if it's possible to map something to last used workspace?
[18:33] <inetpro> superfly: you changed again?
[18:34] <inetpro> ok, see no further updates... yes that README is cool
[18:35] <inetpro> now we just need to go full circle
[18:35] <Kilos> theblazehen: you supposed to be fixing ibid not watching dictator again
[18:36] <inetpro> superfly: now what would be the recommended way for me to contribute to this, do I start my own branch or do I just have upload rights to the same repo?
[18:36] <theblazehen> Kilos: I'm also installing a ROM on my phone..
[18:36] <theblazehen> inetpro: ibid?
[18:36] <inetpro> theblazehen: no, the new site
[18:36] <theblazehen> inetpro: ah, kk
[18:36] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel darem
[18:36] <inetpro> we're doing it as if it's a development project
[18:37] <Kilos> how do i see what you doing inetpro ?
[18:37] <inetpro> nice to learn the devlopment cycle
[18:38] <Kilos> make it nice and fast
[18:38] <Kilos> no bloat
[18:38] <inetpro> theblazehen: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+junk/ubuntuza-site
[18:38] <theblazehen> inetpro: ty
[18:39] <superfly> inetpro: you already have a branch, it's on your computer
[18:40] <superfly> inetpro: make a change, build it, see that it works.
[18:40] <Kilos> julle slim ne
[18:40] <superfly> inetpro: bzr commit -m "Made a really cool about us page"
[18:41] <inetpro> superfly: sure, but do I push back to your branch?
[18:41] <superfly> inetpro: no... there are a few ways of going about this
[18:42] <inetpro> see, that's what I thought as well
[18:42] <superfly> you can push up to your own remote branch (bzr push lp:~inetpro/+junk/ubuntuza-site) and then propose a merge into the main branch
[18:42] <Kilos> my browser logs in there np
[18:42] <Kilos> must i still get the ssh key
[18:43] <superfly> inetpro: or you can make sure you have the latest code merged into your branch, and then just push directly up to the main branch
[18:43] <superfly> if we have enough people, we could make the site an official project
[18:44] <Kilos> how many is enough
[18:44] <inetpro> that is what I was thinking... could be a nice simple way to introduce the development cycle to newcomers 
[18:44] <superfly> OK, I'll set that up then
[18:45] <inetpro> may be best if the main branch is read only for most peeps
[18:45] <superfly> kk, will do
[18:46] <inetpro> superfly: but only if it makes practical sense, not sure whether it's worth it
[18:46] <inetpro> don't want to waste your precious time 
[18:46] <superfly> inetpro: well, I can make it a project, which will make things easier in the long run
[18:47] <superfly> and we can sort out the access control later
[18:47] <inetpro> cool
[18:51] <inetpro> some nice examples of distributed workflows: http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Distributed-Git-Distributed-Workflows
[18:51] <superfly> inetpro: license?  Apache Licence, GNU Affero GPL v3, GNU LGPL v2.1, Simplified BSD Licence, GNU GPL v2, GNU LGPL v3, Creative Commons - No Rights Reserved, GNU GPL v3, MIT / X / Expat Licence
[18:52] <inetpro> oh goodness
[18:54] <inetpro> hmm... either, GPL v2, or v3, or Creative Commons... or what do you think?
[18:55] <superfly> I'm tending to lean towards BSD and MIT style licenses these days
[18:55] <inetpro> why?
[18:56] <captine> i have been trying to get GIT to be used for our Cognos Budgetting tools rules.  thanks for that link...
[18:57] <superfly> by the way, a nice comparison of git and bzr merging: http://toykeeper.net/tutorials/bzr-vs-git/
[18:57] <inetpro> captine: you're welcome
[18:58] <superfly> inetpro: freer
[18:58] <superfly> the GPL is actually not that free 
[18:59] <inetpro> obviously we still prefer bzr but git has really become pervasive these day
[18:59] <superfly> inetpro, captine: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.6/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html
[18:59] <superfly> inetpro: mostly due to github.
[19:00] <inetpro> superfly: BSD or MIT is fine by me as well
[19:01] <inetpro> thanks for the links superfly
[19:07] <Kilos> so lekker to see you two active here agin
[19:08] <inetpro> Kilos: don't just sit there, you need to follow and take part also
[19:08] <inetpro> we're in this together
[19:08] <Kilos> i was at the page
[19:08] <inetpro> have you installed bzr yet?
[19:09] <Kilos> nope
[19:09] <inetpro> ai!
[19:09] <Kilos> from repos
[19:09] <inetpro> and nikola?
[19:09] <superfly> inetpro: I think Kilos needs some money for data first...
[19:09] <inetpro> yes from repos
[19:09] <Kilos> i have the wrong nikola
[19:09] <inetpro> superfly: oops, ok
[19:09] <Kilos> the fly was gonna write down the how to'\
[19:10] <theblazehen> superfly: you see that new python compiler?
[19:10] <superfly> theblazehen: which one?
[19:10] <Kilos> how much data will it use?
[19:10] <superfly> Kilos: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.6/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html
[19:10] <theblazehen> superfly: http://nuitka.net/pages/overview.html
[19:10] <superfly> Kilos: it depends on what you have installed, but probably about 300 megs
[19:11] <Kilos> lemme check vouchers
[19:11] <superfly> inetpro: I'll be honest, I prefer http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.2.6/en/user-guide/bazaar_workflows.html#decentralized-with-human-gatekeeper
[19:12] <inetpro> superfly: yes, that is what we need indeed
[19:13] <inetpro> somebody has to make sure that all is fine
[19:13] <theblazehen> Yes! i3 config perfect! keybinds anyway
[19:14] <Kilos> ok i have airtime and still 700m data
[19:15] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice
[19:15] <Kilos> i will need to go the route the pro went last night
[19:15] <Kilos> i also got the repo nikola
[19:15] <Kilos> and some of those funny files
[19:16] <inetpro> install bzr from repo
[19:17] <inetpro> sudo aptitude install bzr
[19:17] <Kilos> done
[19:17] <Kilos> quite a few dependancies too
[19:18] <inetpro> introduce yourself to bzr
[19:18] <Kilos> lol
[19:18] <inetpro> bzr whoami 'Joe Doe <joe.doe@gmail.com>'
[19:20] <Kilos> so is my new nick Joe Doe?
[19:20] <inetpro> ai!
[19:20] <Kilos> rofl
[19:20] <Kilos> got you
[19:21] <Kilos> whew that was a lekker laugh\
[19:21] <inetpro> Then show or set your Launchpad user ID
[19:21] <inetpro> bzr launchpad-login [NAME]
[19:21] <Kilos> first name or full name
[19:21] <inetpro> if you login to launchpad as bob then it would be
[19:21] <inetpro> bzr launchpad-login bob
[19:22] <Kilos> ai!
[19:22] <Kilos> you mean that ~msdomdonner
[19:22] <superfly> yes, but without the ~
[19:22] <Kilos> ok
[19:23] <Kilos> ai!
[19:23] <Kilos> bzr: ERROR: The user name [msdomdonner] is not registered on Launchpad. 
[19:26] <Kilos> must it have the @gmail.com bit in?
[19:27] <inetpro> Kilos: hang on, you need to do the ssh-keygen thing if you haven't done that, I think
[19:27] <inetpro> do you have a file ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub ?
[19:28] <inetpro> ls -l ~/.ssh/*.pub
[19:28] <inetpro> Kilos: ^^
[19:28] <Kilos> ls: cannot access /home/miles/.ssh/*.pub: No such file or directory
[19:28] <inetpro> ok
[19:28] <inetpro> ssh-keygen -t rsa
[19:29] <inetpro> When prompted, press Enter to accept the default file name for your key
[19:29] <inetpro> Next, enter then confirm a password to protect your SSH key. Your key pair is stored in ~/.ssh/ as id_rsa.pub (public key) and id_rsa (private key)
[19:29] <inetpro> I think most people just press ENTER without a password
[19:30] <inetpro> Now you need to upload the public portion of your SSH key to Launchpad
[19:30] <Kilos> funny thing came there
[19:31] <Kilos> RSA 2048 and stuff under it
[19:31] <Kilos> tell how to do that inetpro 
[19:32] <inetpro> that's all perfect
[19:32] <theblazehen> Question: Am I the only one here who battles to understand elliptic curve diffie hellman?
[19:32] <Kilos> how do i upload the public portion
[19:33] <Kilos> and what is the public portion
[19:33] <Kilos> starts with a long fingerprint
[19:33] <Kilos> then prompt
[19:34] <Kilos> oh that thing is a random art image
[19:36] <inetpro> Kilos: go to https://launchpad.net/~msdomdonner/+editsshkeys
[19:36] <superfly> Kilos: there'll be a ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub file. You need to open that in gedit, and then copy the contents and paste it on Launchpad
[19:37] <Kilos> no gedit is nano good?
[19:37] <inetpro> cat is good as well
[19:37] <Kilos> or kate
[19:37] <inetpro> cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[19:38] <inetpro> highlight, copy and paste 
[19:38] <superfly> Kilos: oh, you on KDE?
[19:38] <superfly> Kate is AWESOME
[19:38]  * superfly loves Kate
[19:38] <superfly> she's so pretty
[19:39] <Kilos> ya but sec i gotta reset password
[19:40] <inetpro> superfly: don't let your wife see that
[19:40] <superfly> inetpro: the wife knows about all of my girlfriends, don't you worry
[19:40] <Kilos> Invalid OpenID transaction
[19:41] <Kilos> why it tells me that when i reset password
[19:41] <inetpro> ai!
[19:41] <inetpro> Kilos: don't you member your password?
[19:42] <Kilos> but here it shows me as logged in
[19:42] <Kilos> https://login.ubuntu.com/+bad-token
[19:42] <Kilos> nope not sure anymore
[19:42] <superfly> Kilos: go to launchpad.net and see if you're logged in there
[19:43] <inetpro> Ubuntu One died long ago
[19:43] <Kilos> it went there https://launchpad.net/~stefanor
[19:43] <Kilos> but ill try login from there
[19:44] <inetpro> uh
[19:44] <inetpro> he's spying on the weed?
[19:47] <Kilos> lol i was looking ibid stuff man 2 weeks ago
[19:47] <Kilos> now i reset password so will try again
[19:49] <inetpro> :-)
[19:49] <inetpro> superfly: anything I can do yet?
[19:49] <Kilos> do i paste that funny image there now
[19:49] <superfly> inetpro: bzr pull lp:ubuntu-za --remember
[19:49] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[19:50] <Kilos> key fingerprint?
[19:50] <inetpro> the contents of the file ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pu
[19:50] <Kilos> ai!
[19:50] <inetpro> b
[19:51] <inetpro> that one long line 
[19:51] <inetpro> looks like three lines on my screen
[19:51] <superfly> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-za
[19:51] <Kilos> mine has 10
[19:52] <inetpro> starts with ssh-rsa
[19:54] <inetpro> superfly: No revisions or tags to pull.
[19:54] <superfly> I have a DSA key, so mine starts with "ssh-dss ..."
[19:54] <superfly> inetpro: perfect
[19:58] <Kilos> must i now add an ssh key  to https://launchpad.net/~msdomdonner/+editsshkeys
[19:58] <inetpro> Kilos: I can see your new key
[19:59] <Kilos> yay
[19:59] <inetpro> now check the cli again
[19:59] <Kilos> nothing changed
[19:59] <inetpro> bzr launchpad-login 
[19:59] <inetpro> bzr launchpad-login msdomdonner
[20:00] <Kilos> it did something and went back to prompt
[20:01] <inetpro> bzr launchpad-login 
[20:01] <inetpro> it should now return with your login name if you don't specify it
[20:01] <Kilos> ya showed msdomdonner this time
[20:01] <inetpro> cool
[20:02] <inetpro> now go create a new folder to start bzr projects from 
[20:02] <inetpro> mkdir Projects
[20:03] <inetpro> or ~/projects
[20:03] <inetpro> or ~/bzr
[20:03] <Kilos> first one done
[20:03] <inetpro> then cd ~/projects
[20:04] <inetpro> now pull this new website project 
[20:04] <inetpro> bzr pull lp:ubuntu-za --remember
[20:04] <Kilos> you mustnt change fro P to p in Projects
[20:04] <inetpro> sorry
[20:04] <Kilos> you will be
[20:05] <Kilos> ill have a heart attack
[20:05] <inetpro> doing it to confuse you on purpose
[20:05] <Kilos> ai!
[20:05] <inetpro> :-)
[20:05] <Kilos> who needs friends
[20:05] <Kilos> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/miles/Projects/".
[20:07] <Kilos> im in miles@P64:~/Projects$ 
[20:07] <inetpro> superfly: what's that first pull command?
[20:08] <superfly> Kilos: in Projects, "mkdir UbuntuZA"
[20:08] <superfly> Kilos: then, "cd UbuntuZA"
[20:08] <superfly> Kilos: then "bzr branch lp:ubuntu-za"
[20:08] <inetpro> ahh
[20:10] <Kilos> done
[20:10] <superfly> inetpro: you should actually do a checkout
[20:11] <Kilos> inetpro: dont go ahh write all this down
[20:11] <superfly> Kilos: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za-dev/ubuntu-za/website/view/head:/README.rst
[20:11] <inetpro> Kilos: see ^^ it's all there
[20:12] <Kilos> lol
[20:13] <inetpro> superfly: now please explain the checkout for me so I can understand where you're going with this
[20:13] <Kilos> ok must i first cd out again before all the installs and updates
[20:13] <superfly> Kilos: now you must cd into that directory that bzr created
[20:14] <superfly> inetpro: "branch" creates an isolated local branch. "checkout" creates a local branch connected to the remote branch, so that when you do a commit locally, it is automatically pushed up to the remote branch.
[20:14] <Kilos> miles@P64:~/Projects/UbuntuZA$ //
[20:15] <Kilos> im on 14.04 remember
[20:15] <inetpro> Kilos: that was written for 14.04
[20:16] <Kilos> so which is the directory bzr created
[20:16] <Kilos> is that where i am now
[20:16] <inetpro> Kilos: ls -l
[20:17] <inetpro> superfly: but then why let kilos run branch?
[20:17] <Kilos> drwxrwxr-x 9 miles miles 4096 Dec 19 22:10 ubuntu-za
[20:17] <Kilos> that?
[20:17] <inetpro> yes
[20:18] <inetpro> superfly: I'm trying to go slow together with Kilos again as if starting afresh
[20:18] <Kilos> cd /ubuntu-za
[20:18] <Kilos> is that the command or must i add the ~
[20:18] <superfly> inetpro: because he's not part of the core team, it's just you and i for the moment
[20:18] <inetpro> ahh
[20:19] <superfly> Kilos: cd ubuntu-za
[20:19] <superfly> Kilos: there's no such directory as /ubuntu-za
[20:19] <Kilos> bash: cd: /ubuntu-za: No such file or directory
[20:19] <Kilos> hehe
[20:19] <superfly> gee, isn't that what I just said?
[20:20] <Kilos> ya i was copy/pasting
[20:20] <Kilos> you too fast
[20:20] <Kilos> miles@P64:~/Projects/UbuntuZA/ubuntu-za$
[20:20] <Kilos> whew getting long now
[20:23] <superfly> Kilos: now follow the instructions for 14.04
[20:24] <Kilos> i am superfly done second install
[20:27] <inetpro> superfly: I made a simple change as proof of concept
[20:29] <Kilos> ln: failed to create symbolic link ‘/path/to/ubuntuza-site/nikola’: No such file or directory
[20:29] <inetpro> simply did a commit and it was automagically pushed
[20:29] <superfly> inetpro: that's OK for now, but please don't do that in future
[20:29] <superfly> let's use the workflow
[20:29] <inetpro> ok
[20:29] <superfly> Kilos: ai
[20:30] <Kilos> why did it do that after running ln -s /path/to/venv/bin/nikola /path/to/ubuntuza-site/nikola
[20:30] <Kilos> ive done all the installs and commands up to there
[20:32] <inetpro> Kilos: when someone writes /path/to/somefile you have to start adding one plus one
[20:32] <Kilos> ai!
[20:33] <inetpro> some little bit of attention and thinking is still required 
[20:33] <Kilos> so path to will be /home/miles right
[20:34] <Kilos> dunno what somefile must be
[20:35] <inetpro> venv/bin/nikola
[20:35]  * inetpro lagging
[20:35] <inetpro> lemme try rebooting my router
[20:38] <Kilos> hmm...
[20:38]  * inetpro is back
[20:38] <Kilos> wb
[20:38] <Kilos> just in time
[20:38] <inetpro> why?
[20:38] <superfly> inetpro: bzr up
[20:38] <Kilos> whats the rest of that command now
[20:39] <Kilos> ln -s /home/miles/venv/bin/nikola /
[20:39] <superfly> Kilos: I don't know, you did all the work
[20:39] <Kilos> ai!
[20:40] <Kilos> sjoe
[20:40] <Kilos> ok this is the command from the readme
[20:40] <inetpro> Kilos: you are in the folder ~/Projects ?
[20:40] <Kilos> ln -s /path/to/venv/bin/nikola /path/to/ubuntuza-site/nikola
[20:41] <Kilos> ya
[20:41] <Kilos> so that now becomes 
[20:41] <inetpro> instructions say "You may want to create a symlink for ease-of-use"
[20:41] <inetpro> not completely necessary 
[20:41] <Kilos>  ln -s /home/miles/venv/bin/nikola /path/to/ubuntuza-site/nikola
[20:42] <Kilos> where is that site
[20:42] <Kilos> also here?
[20:42] <inetpro> cd UbuntuZA/ubuntu-za
[20:42] <superfly> Kilos: where is your "venv" directory?
[20:43] <Kilos> who knows
[20:43] <superfly> Kilos: only you do, you made it
[20:43] <Kilos> oh that ls -l
[20:43] <inetpro> ../../venv/bin/nikola build
[20:43] <superfly> Kilos: it's on your computer, find it
[20:43] <inetpro> :-)
[20:44] <Kilos> the ubuntu-site is here now?
[20:45] <Kilos> ai!
[20:45] <inetpro> and then if the above was successful, which it should do:
[20:45] <inetpro> ../../venv/bin/nikola serve
[20:47] <inetpro> ai!
[20:48] <Kilos> it shows 
[20:48] <Kilos> [2014-12-19T20:46:57Z] INFO: serve: Serving HTTP on 0.0.0.0 port 8000...
[20:48] <Kilos> and standing there
[20:49] <inetpro> uh
[20:49] <inetpro> Kilos: see http://127.0.0.1:8000/ in your browser
[20:50] <Kilos> thats the hello world page
[20:53] <Kilos> now i ended up at http://ubuntu-za.org
[20:55] <inetpro> Kilos: now that is as simple as it get's
[20:55] <inetpro> gets
[20:55] <Kilos> oh
[20:57] <Kilos> ok so then ive done what needs to be done to get there
[20:57] <inetpro> now we have slowed down the fly in his effort to start building this new site of ours
[20:57] <inetpro> but hopefully if we can all help out and contribute together we can speed up to get a final product asap
[20:57] <Kilos> but whats with the cli stuff
[20:57] <Kilos> what do you want me to do
[20:57] <Kilos> i should just be a name there
[20:58] <inetpro> look at the files inside that folder and read the nikola handbook
[20:58] <inetpro> it's actually very very simple
[20:58] <inetpro> see http://getnikola.com/handbook.html
[20:58] <Kilos> i think i got that yesterday
[21:00] <Kilos> the site is already generated right?
[21:01] <Kilos> or must i make one here too
[21:04] <Kilos> and what is this pip thing, like apt-get?
[21:05] <inetpro> man pip
[21:06] <Kilos> lol
[21:06] <inetpro> ai!
[21:06] <inetpro> man can tell you more than I will ever know about it
[21:06] <superfly> Kilos: pip is like apt-get for Python modules
[21:07] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[21:12] <Kilos> i only used about 50m data
[21:12] <Kilos> so all good
[21:13] <Kilos> ty for the help inetpro and superfly 
[21:13] <inetpro> you are welcome, good night Kilos
[21:13]  * inetpro also tired now
[21:14] <Kilos> oh that konsole is watching where i go with the browser
[21:14] <Kilos> night inetpro superfly 
[21:14] <Kilos> sleep tight
[21:14] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, just press Ctrl+C to cancel that
[21:14] <Kilos> ty
[21:14] <Kilos> why is it doing that if i may ask
[21:15] <Kilos> what do the 2 do together
[21:15] <Kilos> as in cli and browser
[21:15] <inetpro> Kilos: you have yourself a simple and small little web server right there
[21:15] <Kilos> similar to ibid and irc?
[21:16] <Kilos> so do you do all the work on the site from cli?
[21:16] <inetpro> and when superfly or any other contributor for that matter has gone and updated pages etc... all you do is pull from the bzr project again and you can test again
[21:16] <Kilos> ai!
[21:17] <superfly> ibid is an IRC bot
[21:17] <Kilos> i dont need to test him man, he knows what he is doing
[21:17] <inetpro> ai!
[21:17] <Kilos> i mean it runs from cli and then joins the channels
[21:18] <inetpro> Nikola  is  a  tool  to  create  static websites and blogs
[21:19] <superfly> Kilos: that's about as close as to "similar" as you are going to get
[21:19] <Kilos> haha
[21:19] <superfly> "they both run from the command line"
[21:19] <Kilos> ya
[21:19] <superfly> Kilos: use Kate to edit the pages. the pages are stored in "stories"
[21:19] <superfly> actually, maybe I should change that.
[21:20] <Kilos> when im awake you can explain what the cli part does
[21:20] <Kilos> i dont see stories anywhere
[21:21] <inetpro> Kilos: look at the files in the folders with dolphin
[21:22] <Kilos> is that thing running in virtual here
[21:23] <Kilos> ah i see stories when i ls 
[21:23] <inetpro> virtualenv is just for python to run different versions 
[21:24] <inetpro> virtualenv creates virtual Python executables, each of which can have its own set of installed modules
[21:24] <Kilos> slim ding ne
[21:24] <Kilos> ek gaan dooi nou
[21:24] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[21:24] <charl> have a good one Kilos 
[21:24] <inetpro> good night
[21:24] <Kilos> ty charl you too
[21:24] <charl> thanks :)
[21:24]  * inetpro going to crash also
[21:25] <charl> same here
[21:25] <charl> good night all
[21:25] <Kilos> if you okes break my kde im gonna cry