| bluesabre | JackFrost: I might be able to attend on the 5th, assuming I have internet by then | 03:35 |
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| JackFrost | bluesabre: 5pm our time? | 03:37 |
| bluesabre | sure, I'll plan to take over the coffee shop | 03:38 |
| * elfy plans to turn up ... | 03:39 | |
| bluesabre | bah, shimmer-themes got pulled from our packageset upload rights it seems | 03:40 |
| JackFrost | Whaaaaat? | 03:40 |
| * bluesabre will fix | 03:40 | |
| * elfy lets bluesabre fix that | 03:42 | |
| JackFrost | Cool, so: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:00:00 +0000 it is. Dang, now I have to mail the list again, and I just did that... | 03:43 |
| bluesabre | sorry, often slow to respond these days | 03:43 |
| elfy | bluesabre: don't apologise | 03:45 |
| bluesabre | sorry elfy | 03:45 |
| bluesabre | :P | 03:45 |
| elfy | no setting precedents :) | 03:45 |
| bluesabre | also, you're online really late it seems | 03:45 |
| * elfy shudders while shuddering | 03:45 | |
| JackFrost | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-December/010513.html I broke it. :3 | 06:15 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: crap, how the hell did that happen? | 07:18 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: Laney fixed it, package uploaded | 11:47 |
| bluesabre | bbl | 11:48 |
| ochosi | cool thanks bluesabre | 11:48 |
| ochosi | that was a lot quicker than i had hoped | 11:48 |
| elfy | ochosi: so gtk3.14 updates turned up now | 12:43 |
| ochosi | elfy: and, total havoc on your screen? | 12:47 |
| elfy | nope :) | 12:47 |
| ochosi | phew :) | 12:47 |
| elfy | :) | 12:48 |
| ochosi | would you mind testing with the 15.04 greybird package too? | 12:49 |
| ochosi | just to be sure that bluesabre's upload had the desired result | 12:49 |
| elfy | assuming that it came through ppa then I am using it | 12:49 |
| ochosi | it *should* be based on the same commit | 12:50 |
| elfy | 201412190846~ubuntu15.04.1 | 12:51 |
| elfy | anything in particular to look out for - or just run with it and see :) | 12:52 |
| ochosi | that's the upload time though i think | 12:52 |
| ochosi | cause my commit was from yesterday | 12:53 |
| ochosi | well, the panel/indicators were broken | 12:53 |
| ochosi | so if that's not the case anymore, i guess we're good | 12:53 |
| elfy | I've not rebooted - but I would think that we're good | 12:53 |
| ochosi | right, well that you have to do | 12:54 |
| ochosi | or at least restart your session | 12:54 |
| elfy | k - I'll do that :) | 12:54 |
| ochosi | ty | 12:54 |
| elfy | ochosi: looks good to me currently :) | 12:57 |
| ochosi | ok, if you notice anything lemme know | 12:57 |
| ochosi | could be that the checkboxes still look weird | 12:57 |
| ochosi | not sure | 12:57 |
| elfy | yep will do | 12:58 |
| elfy | checkboxes look right now - you can see where to en/disable | 12:58 |
| ochosi | could you show me a screener? | 12:59 |
| elfy | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-125931.php | 12:59 |
| ochosi | looks a bit compressed, but okayish | 13:00 |
| ochosi | and that frame... fugly. | 13:00 |
| ochosi | but that's not a theme problem, but one of the app | 13:00 |
| elfy | synaptic looks odd now - big boxes round the options - http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130036.php | 13:00 |
| ochosi | yeah, i read that ubuntu were patching something wrt toolbars | 13:01 |
| ochosi | i think gtk3 changed some default setting there | 13:01 |
| elfy | ok | 13:01 |
| ochosi | so toolbar buttons look like buttons now | 13:01 |
| elfy | yep | 13:01 |
| ochosi | need to see whether that should be tackled in the theme or in gtk | 13:01 |
| elfy | catfish - http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130155.php | 13:02 |
| ochosi | yeah, bluesabre said he'd take care of that | 13:02 |
| elfy | I'd look at parole - but I'll forget to reset blanking :p | 13:03 |
| ochosi | as soon as light-locker 1.5.1 has landed in vivid, i'll try to fix xdg-screensaver | 13:03 |
| elfy | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130354.php | 13:04 |
| elfy | yep - I was pleased to find out what that was - that really drove me nuts :D | 13:04 |
| ochosi | weird, checkboxes in the menus | 13:06 |
| elfy | saw that - hence showing it for you :) | 13:07 |
| elfy | anyway - I'm using shimmer and staging and unit's ppa's - so as long as changes show there first - then I can check what I'm seeing here | 13:09 |
| ochosi | yup, i'll start with those buttons | 13:09 |
| elfy | :) | 13:10 |
| ochosi | elfy: just pushed several huge commits to greybird, that should fix most of the remaining gtk3.14 issues | 14:01 |
| ochosi | crap, our checkboxes are 17x15 instead of 16x16 | 14:10 |
| ochosi | that's why they look skewed | 14:10 |
| knome | oi :P | 14:10 |
| ochosi | sucks a bit cause that means they'll look off by 1px | 14:12 |
| ochosi | elfy: could you check whether radiobuttons are also skewed? | 14:14 |
| elfy | want to point me at something with radio buttons :p | 14:22 |
| ochosi | if you have propr drivers, the additional drivers tab in software and updates has them | 14:23 |
| ochosi | also, with the latest version of greybird, those nasty frames should be gone | 14:23 |
| elfy | well - they look ok to me - but I've got old eyes and most things do :) | 14:24 |
| ochosi | screenshot pls | 14:24 |
| elfy | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-142443.php | 14:24 |
| ochosi | also, i just triggered a rebuild, so hopefully you'll get a greybird-update in the afternoon | 14:24 |
| elfy | yep - was doing it :) | 14:25 |
| ochosi | crap, skewed | 14:25 |
| ochosi | ok, thanks | 14:25 |
| elfy | ok - I will check that later then | 14:25 |
| ochosi | ok, the fix the radios won't be in the build | 14:28 |
| ochosi | but it's in git already | 14:28 |
| elfy | what do you actually mean by skewed ? | 14:29 |
| elfy | ochosi: okey doke | 14:29 |
| ochosi | well it's not square | 14:31 |
| ochosi | the pixmap is 16x15 px and gtk3 used to just not care about that | 14:31 |
| ochosi | now i resized the canvas to 16x16 (without scaling the radios/checks) and now the circles should be circular again | 14:31 |
| ochosi | instead of slightly ellipse-like | 14:31 |
| elfy | oh right - so to you the circles aren't circles ? | 14:32 |
| ochosi | yup | 14:32 |
| ochosi | they arent | 14:33 |
| ochosi | objectively speaking, not just to me | 14:33 |
| * elfy points up logs a bit to where I've got old eyes :) | 14:33 | |
| elfy | I guess if I zoomed in I'd see it :) | 14:33 |
| elfy | thanks though :) | 14:34 |
| ochosi | i guess it'd annoy me more than you ;) | 14:35 |
| elfy | :) | 14:36 |
| elfy | especially if you know the code says 16x15 - even you couldn't actually see it you'd think you could :) | 14:37 |
| ochosi | elfy: new packages are built and published, so you should be able to update and test | 14:51 |
| elfy | aah - good must have just published them then - I checked 5 minutes ago :p | 14:55 |
| elfy | ochosi: all updated now | 15:00 |
| ochosi | mind to show me the same windows agai? | 15:01 |
| elfy | was just doing that :) | 15:01 |
| ochosi | oh good :) | 15:01 |
| elfy | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150209.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150235.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150404.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150504.php | 15:05 |
| elfy | same 4 | 15:05 |
| elfy | just realised the screenshot tool has host on imgur | 15:05 |
| elfy | testcase probably needs tweaking | 15:06 |
| ochosi | hm, that seems like it didn't pull from github | 15:08 |
| ochosi | hmpf, i triggered the rebuild too early | 15:12 |
| ochosi | bzr import from git wasn't complete yet... | 15:12 |
| ochosi | well, in that case let's just test it tomorrow then | 15:12 |
| elfy | ok :) | 15:12 |
| ochosi | if it's still not fixed with tomorrow's package, please ping me | 15:12 |
| elfy | I wasn't sure if anything had changed - but my eyes you know :p | 15:13 |
| slickymasterWork | elfy, re https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1404275, what version of xfce4-screenshooter are you using? | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1404275 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Imgur hosting option missing" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 15:54 |
| elfy | oh bah humbug - bet it came from unit's ppa ... | 15:56 |
| JackFrost | Was about to say.. :3 | 15:56 |
| elfy | lol | 15:56 |
| slickymasterWork | lol, funky nick you got for the holidays JackFrost | 15:56 |
| JackFrost | Thanks. | 15:57 |
| elfy | so we gonna get that at some point soonish (eg 15.04) or not | 15:57 |
| JackFrost | They've been working on it upstream a fair bit.. | 15:57 |
| slickymasterWork | thing is elfy, the one shipped with Vivid doesn't yet offers imgur as hosting option | 15:58 |
| elfy | yea - marked it invalid for the moment - when it does land - the fix is waiting :) | 15:58 |
| slickymasterWork | ok, you'll probably have to remind me then, to do the review :P | 15:59 |
| elfy | JackFrost: well it does work though :p | 16:01 |
| ali1234 | while people are about, just a reminder that i fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/1270090 | 16:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1270090 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "time-admin can not install ntp" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:02 |
| ali1234 | the debdiff needs redo-ing for vivid i guess, i'm still on 14.04 here | 16:03 |
| drc | Finally! :) | 16:04 |
| elfy | ochosi: is the fix for shaded windows and inteligent hide coming soon? | 16:37 |
| drc | pleia2: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-distro-2014.html | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | he sure likes us :) | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 18:18 |
| xuxuxu | whats going on in here | 18:45 |
| knome | development discussion. | 18:55 |
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| ochosi | bluesabre: meh, seems like we might have to add a "flat" class to the osd buttons to prevent them from having borders in gtk3.14 :( | 22:36 |
| ochosi | should be fairly friction-free in terms of backwards-compatability, but still, meh | 22:37 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i pushed several updates to greybird today after noticing that my previous patches weren't sufficient for the gtk3.14 switch *at all*. if you can push a new package for it, that'd be great. otherwise we can continue to test with the daily builds until i have something solid (should be a lot better now though). it's likely that we won't install bluebird, albatross and orion anymore by default, no time to update them properly... | 23:52 |
| knome | ochosi, if it would be just for a similar diff that you showed me earlier, i can run through those two/three themes and do that. | 23:52 |
| knome | i mean, if doing that was enough to convince you we can ship them.. | 23:53 |
| pleia2 | woohoo, just confirmed venue (San Francisco Gandi.net offices) for Ubuntu Global Jam, working on Xubuntu QA again :) | 23:53 |
| knome | yay | 23:53 |
| ochosi | knome: if you have time/energy for it, go for it | 23:54 |
| ochosi | i'm happy to ship them if they work, but i know i won't get to maintaining them anymore | 23:54 |
| knome | ochosi, would you need more than that to be willing to ship them? | 23:54 |
| knome | what we really should do... | 23:54 |
| ochosi | well generally i want them to work | 23:54 |
| knome | well maybe this is more for #shimmer, but anyway | 23:55 |
| ochosi | so if they look bad in other places even with those patches, i would say we'd have to fix it | 23:55 |
| ochosi | pleia2: cool! | 23:55 |
| knome | see the point where greybird started getting those gtk3 updates | 23:55 |
| knome | and try to port them to the other themes | 23:55 |
| ochosi | yeah | 23:56 |
| knome | converting to SASS might work good for that kind of things | 23:56 |
| ochosi | that's how we did it up to now | 23:56 |
| ochosi | but it's not getting easier | 23:56 |
| knome | so is that the only thing missing? | 23:56 |
| knome | or are we missing other things? | 23:56 |
| ochosi | gnome is using sass, so using sass as well makes it easier to remain in sync | 23:56 |
| ochosi | honestly, i can't tell yet | 23:56 |
| knome | but sass comes with some extra dependencies | 23:56 |
| ochosi | 3.14 has just landed and i have only just started to really explore it | 23:56 |
| knome | sure.. but regarding greybird vs. albatross/bluebird, is that the diff? | 23:57 |
| ochosi | sort of | 23:57 |
| ochosi | the themes aren't 100% the same | 23:58 |
| knome | of course | 23:58 |
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