[03:35] JackFrost: I might be able to attend on the 5th, assuming I have internet by then [03:37] bluesabre: 5pm our time? [03:38] sure, I'll plan to take over the coffee shop [03:39] * elfy plans to turn up ... [03:40] bah, shimmer-themes got pulled from our packageset upload rights it seems [03:40] Whaaaaat? [03:40] * bluesabre will fix [03:42] * elfy lets bluesabre fix that [03:43] Cool, so: Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:00:00 +0000 it is. Dang, now I have to mail the list again, and I just did that... [03:43] sorry, often slow to respond these days [03:45] bluesabre: don't apologise [03:45] sorry elfy [03:45] :P [03:45] no setting precedents :) [03:45] also, you're online really late it seems [03:45] * elfy shudders while shuddering [06:15] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2014-December/010513.html I broke it. :3 [07:18] bluesabre: crap, how the hell did that happen? [11:47] ochosi: Laney fixed it, package uploaded [11:48] bbl [11:48] cool thanks bluesabre [11:48] that was a lot quicker than i had hoped [12:43] ochosi: so gtk3.14 updates turned up now [12:47] elfy: and, total havoc on your screen? [12:47] nope :) [12:47] phew :) [12:48] :) [12:49] would you mind testing with the 15.04 greybird package too? [12:49] just to be sure that bluesabre's upload had the desired result [12:49] assuming that it came through ppa then I am using it [12:50] it *should* be based on the same commit [12:51] 201412190846~ubuntu15.04.1 [12:52] anything in particular to look out for - or just run with it and see :) [12:52] that's the upload time though i think [12:53] cause my commit was from yesterday [12:53] well, the panel/indicators were broken [12:53] so if that's not the case anymore, i guess we're good [12:53] I've not rebooted - but I would think that we're good [12:54] right, well that you have to do [12:54] or at least restart your session [12:54] k - I'll do that :) [12:54] ty [12:57] ochosi: looks good to me currently :) [12:57] ok, if you notice anything lemme know [12:57] could be that the checkboxes still look weird [12:57] not sure [12:58] yep will do [12:58] checkboxes look right now - you can see where to en/disable [12:59] could you show me a screener? [12:59] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-125931.php [13:00] looks a bit compressed, but okayish [13:00] and that frame... fugly. [13:00] but that's not a theme problem, but one of the app [13:00] synaptic looks odd now - big boxes round the options - http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130036.php [13:01] yeah, i read that ubuntu were patching something wrt toolbars [13:01] i think gtk3 changed some default setting there [13:01] ok [13:01] so toolbar buttons look like buttons now [13:01] yep [13:01] need to see whether that should be tackled in the theme or in gtk [13:02] catfish - http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130155.php [13:02] yeah, bluesabre said he'd take care of that [13:03] I'd look at parole - but I'll forget to reset blanking :p [13:03] as soon as light-locker 1.5.1 has landed in vivid, i'll try to fix xdg-screensaver [13:04] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-130354.php [13:04] yep - I was pleased to find out what that was - that really drove me nuts :D [13:06] weird, checkboxes in the menus [13:07] saw that - hence showing it for you :) [13:09] anyway - I'm using shimmer and staging and unit's ppa's - so as long as changes show there first - then I can check what I'm seeing here [13:09] yup, i'll start with those buttons [13:10] :) [14:01] elfy: just pushed several huge commits to greybird, that should fix most of the remaining gtk3.14 issues [14:10] crap, our checkboxes are 17x15 instead of 16x16 [14:10] that's why they look skewed [14:10] oi :P [14:12] sucks a bit cause that means they'll look off by 1px [14:14] elfy: could you check whether radiobuttons are also skewed? [14:22] want to point me at something with radio buttons :p [14:23] if you have propr drivers, the additional drivers tab in software and updates has them [14:23] also, with the latest version of greybird, those nasty frames should be gone [14:24] well - they look ok to me - but I've got old eyes and most things do :) [14:24] screenshot pls [14:24] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-142443.php [14:24] also, i just triggered a rebuild, so hopefully you'll get a greybird-update in the afternoon [14:25] yep - was doing it :) [14:25] crap, skewed [14:25] ok, thanks [14:25] ok - I will check that later then [14:28] ok, the fix the radios won't be in the build [14:28] but it's in git already [14:29] what do you actually mean by skewed ? [14:29] ochosi: okey doke [14:31] well it's not square [14:31] the pixmap is 16x15 px and gtk3 used to just not care about that [14:31] now i resized the canvas to 16x16 (without scaling the radios/checks) and now the circles should be circular again [14:31] instead of slightly ellipse-like [14:32] oh right - so to you the circles aren't circles ? [14:32] yup [14:33] they arent [14:33] objectively speaking, not just to me [14:33] * elfy points up logs a bit to where I've got old eyes :) [14:33] I guess if I zoomed in I'd see it :) [14:34] thanks though :) [14:35] i guess it'd annoy me more than you ;) [14:36] :) [14:37] especially if you know the code says 16x15 - even you couldn't actually see it you'd think you could :) [14:51] elfy: new packages are built and published, so you should be able to update and test [14:55] aah - good must have just published them then - I checked 5 minutes ago :p [15:00] ochosi: all updated now [15:01] mind to show me the same windows agai? [15:01] was just doing that :) [15:01] oh good :) [15:05] http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150209.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150235.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150404.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-191214-150504.php [15:05] same 4 [15:05] just realised the screenshot tool has host on imgur [15:06] testcase probably needs tweaking [15:08] hm, that seems like it didn't pull from github [15:12] hmpf, i triggered the rebuild too early [15:12] bzr import from git wasn't complete yet... [15:12] well, in that case let's just test it tomorrow then [15:12] ok :) [15:12] if it's still not fixed with tomorrow's package, please ping me [15:13] I wasn't sure if anything had changed - but my eyes you know :p [15:54] elfy, re https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1404275, what version of xfce4-screenshooter are you using? [15:54] Launchpad bug 1404275 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Imgur hosting option missing" [Undecided,Fix committed] [15:56] oh bah humbug - bet it came from unit's ppa ... [15:56] Was about to say.. :3 [15:56] lol [15:56] lol, funky nick you got for the holidays JackFrost [15:57] Thanks. [15:57] so we gonna get that at some point soonish (eg 15.04) or not [15:57] They've been working on it upstream a fair bit.. [15:58] thing is elfy, the one shipped with Vivid doesn't yet offers imgur as hosting option [15:58] yea - marked it invalid for the moment - when it does land - the fix is waiting :) [15:59] ok, you'll probably have to remind me then, to do the review :P [16:01] JackFrost: well it does work though :p [16:02] while people are about, just a reminder that i fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools/+bug/1270090 [16:02] Launchpad bug 1270090 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "time-admin can not install ntp" [Medium,Confirmed] [16:03] the debdiff needs redo-ing for vivid i guess, i'm still on 14.04 here [16:04] Finally! :) [16:37] ochosi: is the fix for shaded windows and inteligent hide coming soon? [18:18] pleia2: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-distro-2014.html [18:18] he sure likes us :) [18:18] thanks [18:45] whats going on in here [18:55] development discussion. === meetingology` is now known as meetingology [22:36] bluesabre: meh, seems like we might have to add a "flat" class to the osd buttons to prevent them from having borders in gtk3.14 :( [22:37] should be fairly friction-free in terms of backwards-compatability, but still, meh [23:52] bluesabre: i pushed several updates to greybird today after noticing that my previous patches weren't sufficient for the gtk3.14 switch *at all*. if you can push a new package for it, that'd be great. otherwise we can continue to test with the daily builds until i have something solid (should be a lot better now though). it's likely that we won't install bluebird, albatross and orion anymore by default, no time to update them properly... [23:52] ochosi, if it would be just for a similar diff that you showed me earlier, i can run through those two/three themes and do that. [23:53] i mean, if doing that was enough to convince you we can ship them.. [23:53] woohoo, just confirmed venue (San Francisco Gandi.net offices) for Ubuntu Global Jam, working on Xubuntu QA again :) [23:53] yay [23:54] knome: if you have time/energy for it, go for it [23:54] i'm happy to ship them if they work, but i know i won't get to maintaining them anymore [23:54] ochosi, would you need more than that to be willing to ship them? [23:54] what we really should do... [23:54] well generally i want them to work [23:55] well maybe this is more for #shimmer, but anyway [23:55] so if they look bad in other places even with those patches, i would say we'd have to fix it [23:55] pleia2: cool! [23:55] see the point where greybird started getting those gtk3 updates [23:55] and try to port them to the other themes [23:56] yeah [23:56] converting to SASS might work good for that kind of things [23:56] that's how we did it up to now [23:56] but it's not getting easier [23:56] so is that the only thing missing? [23:56] or are we missing other things? [23:56] gnome is using sass, so using sass as well makes it easier to remain in sync [23:56] honestly, i can't tell yet [23:56] but sass comes with some extra dependencies [23:56] 3.14 has just landed and i have only just started to really explore it [23:57] sure.. but regarding greybird vs. albatross/bluebird, is that the diff? [23:57] sort of [23:58] the themes aren't 100% the same [23:58] of course