[02:18] Morning [06:43] theblazehen, you were up early [06:43] captine: yeah :/ [06:43] same here. son woke me 4 times in the night.... [06:44] ouch. [08:10] Maaz: hi [08:10] Howzit Kilos [08:11] hi theblazehen and others [08:11] late nights kill me [08:11] Hi Kilos [08:12] Rynomster: you change name again? [08:13] haha hi Rynomster [08:13] you early captine [09:11] hey all [09:11] hi Squirm [09:11] Anyone here know of a Hack Space in Cape Town? [09:11] Maaz: google google [09:11] Kilos: "Google" http://www.google.com/ :: "Google Maps" https://maps.google.com/ :: "Gmail - Google" https://mail.google.com/ :: "Google Translate" http://translate.google.com/ :: "Google News" http://news.google.com/ :: "Google - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google :: "Google - Mountain View, CA - Website | Facebook" [09:11] https://www.facebook.com/Google :: "Google (@google) | Twitter" https://twitter.com/google [09:11] yoooohhoooooo who fixed it [09:11] Turns out I can't post to the list, for some reason I'm being marked as Spam [09:12] Squirm: code bridge? [09:12] is there a mail from you there Squirm ? [09:13] morning tumbleweed did you fix ibid? [09:13] Kilos: not i [09:14] oh my goodness, well i gotta find who to thank [09:14] maybe gremble [09:14] I'd guess if anyone it was google [09:14] can you trace who did it [09:15] you think they restored the api [09:15] nobody has submitted any patches, so most likely, yes [09:16] sjoe ty [09:16] hows life in the states [09:16] not bad. But right now, I'm in cape town :) [09:16] yay welcome home [09:17] tumbleweed: Like that. Just can't afford R300pm :/ [09:18] you can visit every now and then for free. you just can't work from there all the time for free [09:19] Yeah... It'll just be weekends [09:19] If that [09:20] I have a project I want to start. Don't know if I'll even be able to do it [09:21] Squirm: i dont see you in my spam folder [09:21] Kilos: you a part of the CT Mailing list too? [09:22] and no, it was rejected completely [09:22] bounced back to me [09:22] oh no, im on our list [09:22] eish [09:23] and today ive forgotten how to put in my launchpad id [09:23] sigh [09:24] ~msdomdonner then dunno what launchpad.net [09:24] dunno if its a . or / [09:24] grrrr [09:33] yay ive been a member for 4 years and 34 weeks [09:39] theblazehen: the ibids can google again [09:57] Kilos: nice [09:57] ya me happy [10:21] good morning [10:21] Maaz: coffee on [10:22] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [10:22] hi charl [10:22] Maaz: coffee please [10:22] Kilos: Yessir [10:22] hi Kilos [10:22] how are you this morning [10:23] good ty and you? was very tired early on [10:24] late nights in the big city not good for ballies [10:26] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [10:26] Maaz: gracias amigo [10:26] ¡de nada compadre [10:28] Maaz: danke [10:28] Bitteschön [10:29] lol i'm good thanks [11:01] o/ [11:05] Cheers all [11:05] Finished work [11:05] ^^ [11:05] hi gremble [11:06] yay Squirm [11:06] gremble: ibids can google again [11:19] oh nice [11:22] Did someone fix it, or did google just fix it? [11:25] the weed thinks google did [11:27] now we just gotta see if it has that 100 query limit in [11:33] oh and still make it work with python3 [11:46] bad news when snakes keep mutating [11:47] just now we have a venomous python that spits like a spitting cobra too [12:12] That would be pretty cool [12:24] good afternoon [12:24] magespawn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell magespawn http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za/+junk/ubuntuza-site/view/head:/README.rst" 1 day, 14 hours, 37 minutes and 4 seconds ago [12:24] Maaz thanks [12:24] magespawn: No problem [12:28] hi mage [12:28] oh [12:28] wb magespawn \ [12:31] well that was a quick in and out [12:31] how are you Kilos / [12:31] ? [12:31] im good ty magespawn and you [12:32] just need sleep i think [12:32] 2 late nights inna row are heavy [12:32] very good thanks, i have managed to sort a part of of one of the networks that has been giving me hassels for about a week [12:32] but that funny thing works [12:33] great [12:33] do you actually find the prob or just isolate sections [12:35] lightning or what [12:37] well the one mikrotik card is flaky but that might be the power on the site [12:37] sjoe [12:38] then a Ubiquiti Nanobridge M5 lost its lan port but was stil working through wireless [12:38] what power you got there? [12:38] and the router in the office has also been affected [12:38] wow whats causing all these things [12:38] at the mikrotik it is farm power but it charges a battery that runns the site [12:38] you got lightning protectors in and surge protectors? [12:39] eskom and lightening [12:39] eish [12:39] on all the external equipment [12:40] well lightning you can control [12:40] just have to hide sensitive stuff [12:40] cant sorry [12:42] many lightning rods all over higher than you equipment and earthed into damp soil [12:42] ai! [12:43] cannot control eskom either [12:43] cannot control eskom either [12:43] lo, ya man you can with major ups's and large batteriers [12:43] batteries [12:44] the thing is how good do you want to spend [12:44] that is about it, and they have to line interactive ups [12:45] i saw a link somewhere that supplies real big ones, but they cost a fortune [12:45] the link here is still not perfect, it still needs some work [12:46] well you the mechanic, just fix it [12:46] or ill set the pro on you [12:47] lol [12:48] i think town peeps dont understand the out in the sticks probs [12:55] back again [12:55] that was a power dip [12:56] so it looks like the batteries at the high site need to be replaced [12:58] aha [13:28] my ping times for the 5-8 km link for the headoffice insto empangeni are between 1.5ms - 3.5ms [13:28] from the headoffice into empangeni [13:29] What should it be? [13:30] that is what it was before all the problems [13:31] i think i can make the one section of the link much better [13:31] i am seeing a lot of noise on the one section of the link [13:35] there is a lot of other peoples link there that are all using channels that are very close together [13:35] magespawn: that would mainly only change speed, not latency, right? [13:40] speed and latency are almost the same think when it comes to the ptp links [13:41] all of our traffic goes from the router at the head office through the wireless links to emapangeni [13:41] empangeni [13:42] let me see if i have a map somewhere [13:44] if there is a lot of radio noise on the one link that will cause a lot of retransmissions increasing latency [13:45] what is the name of the picture paste bin service? [13:45] i can never remember [13:45] picpaste.com [13:45] ty [13:45] only one i can remember [13:47] http://picpaste.com/Felixton__Canefields__ECC_Wireless_Network-Cgg02ZUp.png [13:48] it is the link bewteen the first and second mikrotik that is the problem [13:48] i might also just need to adust the antennae alignment a bit [13:49] can you see the signal strenght between them magespawn ? [13:49] strength [13:49] strange they picpaste does not accept .odg files [13:49] ya maybe they not alighned properly [13:50] sjoe [13:50] aligned [13:50] yes on each piece of equipment to can see the signal strength, tx and rx and the amount of bandwidth you have bewteen your signal strength and the noise [13:51] alinged [13:51] that thing man [13:51] all look wrong [13:52] second one i think Kilos [13:52] maybe some bird bird use one antenna as a bounce off point [13:52] http://dl.ubnt.com/newsletters/0113/images/0113_a5.jpg [13:53] ^^ that is what one of the screens looks like when you log in [13:53] is there some way of watching the signal strength while aligning [13:54] like with a yagi on cell signels [13:54] yes [13:54] but you have to logged into the device [13:54] surely you need 2 peeps but [13:55] to do that for each one i will have to test between each link [13:55] one to align and other to watch other end' [13:55] well start with the ones you pinpoint as the worst [13:56] you can do it yourself it just means in the case of the high site ihave to take the laptop up on top of the roof with me [13:56] and if i connect my laptop i break the link because of using the network cable [13:58] from the adsl router to first mikrotik is a lan cable, then to second mikrotik wireless, then to first nanobeam cable, then wireless to second nanobeam then cable to the linksys [14:00] sjoe [14:01] fix it man dont swear at me [14:02] just gotta go quickly take all my tools etc down and then it is off home [14:02] if each wireless antenna has good line of site to the next one you should be ok [14:02] maybe new trees grew between them this summer [14:02] get chainsaws [14:02] yeah they do just the one link going into empangeni is a problem [14:03] i don't think it is that, lol, i just think that all the other networks are all using channels close to each other [14:03] someone built a shopping centre in between [14:03] you need to go higher then [14:04] or put a booster by the obstruction [14:06] if there are other networks using the same channel or ones close to it then it interupts your signal, so you just change your channel and all is good again [14:07] i got to go now, see you later [14:07] eish [14:07] so you move frequencies [14:08] your cell should be able to see what other wireless signals are working in the area wont it [14:08] yup anything between 5.0 Ghz and 5.8Ghz [14:08] no completly different frequencies [14:09] cell is between 800Mhz and 2.1 Ghz i think, if i recall correctly [14:09] find whose messing things up and shoot them [14:10] my wirelss card was 2.4g band [14:10] ja sorry it is 800 Mhz and 1900 MHz [14:11] is there no way to get a physical line to empangeni [14:11] there are two licence free bands 2Ghz - 2.8Ghz and 5Ghz to 5.8Ghz [14:11] Kilos that is 5km as the crow flies, so it would a tad expensive [14:11] ya but a bad link is useless even if its free [14:12] ya [14:12] the link is not bad just not optimal right now [14:12] kill the crow [14:12] its blocking the signal [14:12] gotta go now, home time for me [14:12] go safe [14:13] cheers [14:13] shame [14:58] hmm... [15:00] sjoe, kinda hot now [15:01] hows the mosquitoes gremble [15:01] I haven't slept at home for a week. So I am not bothered much [15:01] They aren't here where I am that much [15:01] it was you plagued by them wasnt it [15:01] aha [16:00] eish! another pest [16:00] http://donsmaps.com/goldenthread.html [16:03] Isn't that in the US Kilos ? [16:03] we have it in the garden between pecan nut trees [16:03] spreads over a meter in w week [16:04] sister says if it reaches the trees it will eventually kill them [16:04] she also says it can be used to cause abortion [16:05] sjoe [16:05] And a contraceptive [16:05] Can't you take it out? [16:06] i will see what can be done tomorrow [16:06] I bought a domain for my website yesterday [16:06] :P [16:07] http://grump.xyz [16:07] it sticks to all plant leaves it covers so i dont know if just pulling it off will remove it all [16:08] Just set everything on fire [16:08] :P [16:08] yeah im a great believer in fire but all the grass and weeds it covering now are green [16:08] so fire gonna be tough to make there [16:09] lekker that domain [16:09] where you bought it and how much [16:09] I got it from Namecheap. It was $10.88 [16:10] ian bought one and site host at hetzner [16:10] one time buy? [16:10] No, yearly subscription [16:12] i wish one could still get a free domain name [16:12] i save ever cent for data an pc stuff [16:13] saving for a i5 cpu for here [16:14] Do you have a board with appropriate chipset? [16:19] ya a 1155 with 4g ddr3 [16:19] i bought the board beginning of the year but didnt have enough for more than a dual core cpu [16:21] and with a 3g dual core its quite fast already so with i5 it should rock [16:21] Hmm I have to get a new laptop ;x [16:21] But they are so expensive [16:21] everything is. times are really tough [16:22] i dont mind second hand things but not sure about a lappy [16:22] ian got an i7 and an i5 for 7k [16:23] wb plustwo [16:23] wat breek julle nou weer [16:24] haha i like the grumbles part gremble [16:24] very fitting [16:24] dont grumble gremble [16:28] :P [16:34] theblazehen: I think everytime I DC, my name changes.. lol [18:16] good evening [18:16] hi inetpro [18:17] if my head pops its your fault [18:17] superfly: btw, we don't need to create soft links for the virtualenv stuff [18:17] a simple 'source bin/activate' will do [18:17] or even just '. bin/activate' [18:17] the flu not here yet man [18:18] he'll get it [18:18] doesnt quassel show you anything [18:19] hi Kilos, hoe gaan dit vandag? [18:19] why you popping the head? [18:19] ek gaan aan dankie en jy? [18:20] was too hot for me again today [18:21] ja tuday was heavy, i thought it was going to rain but no luck [18:21] sjoe typos [18:21] no worries [18:24] even now the heat is still heavy [18:47] inetpro: yeah, for the most part [18:47] inetpro: I've had some issues in the past, so I just go with direct links [18:59] good evening [19:00] Kilos must be tired two late nights in a row [19:00] hi magespawn superfly \\ [19:00] hehe [19:00] hey Kilos [19:00] i missed your nick on the list [19:00] Kilos: \\ ? [19:00] crooked fingers [19:00] ad eye [19:01] dunno [19:01] bad [19:01] must remove that \ key [19:01] i normally delete it [19:01] hi Kilos, magespawn [19:02] hi superfly inetpro [19:02] http://torcache.net/torrent/2D67AEA7D77E83E292726F4161D1F37B8952DD0E.torrent?title=[kickass.so]need.for.speed.most.wanted well, this is interesting.. [19:02] hi superfly [19:02] wrong link [19:02] http://uploads.ungrounded.net/556000/556644_YFYIAR.swf * [19:05] hmm theblazehen_, that might qualify as a freudian slip [19:06] magespawn: lol, for some reason link just didn't wanna copy [19:08] do you guyes prefer your text books as ebooks or real paper? [19:08] guys [19:09] magespawn: well you can't grep real paper.. [19:09] indeed [19:10] Technically I don't think you can grep a pdf either.. [19:10] i find it strange the the ebook is the same price as the hard copy [19:10] yeah [19:10] i would have thought it cost less to do an ebook [19:10] Well you can print the ebook [19:10] yeah. Be carefull of DRM [19:10] Might not work in linux [19:13] calibre seems to handle most formats well, but i was looking at google play, so it would be on the tablet and phone [19:15] You can break DRM easily enough with calibre [19:15] anybody want to voice an opinion as to what certifications would be a +? [19:15] I wouldn't get an ebook text book because you can only "rent" them [19:15] that is the ones from Cengage [19:15] I don't know if other publishers are as horrible as that [19:15] gremble even if you have bought them from google play? [19:16] Google Play I have no idea [19:16] I usually steal ebooks. I buy hardcopies of the really nice ones [19:16] i know amazon looks at it that way, they have a history of removing books from kindles [19:17] magespawn: not any more [19:17] there was some outrage, and they've stopped [19:17] that is a good thing then [19:20] You can't put a book that you've bought from Kalahari.com on a kindle [19:20] :P [19:21] I had to teach my mother how to remove the DRM so that she can read her books [19:21] they have their own device don't they? [19:22] i forget the name [19:24] I don't know [19:25] I read paper and write with pens like a lunatic from the middle ages [19:26] lol [19:26] i generally like to read paper too, but ireally like the idea of all the books in one place [19:26] That is called a bookcase [19:27] :P [19:27] Sometimes even a library [19:27] would clear the clutter out of my house for one [19:27] Shut your whore mouth D: Books are not clutter [19:27] i tend to leave books lying around to my wifes distraction [19:27] lol [19:28] indeed they just take up so much space [19:29] something that i am running out of [19:30] I repurposed the kitchen of the house that I am staying in as a work area [19:31] I just have to make sure I don't set my articles on fire when I use toe stove [19:31] :P [19:36] i often wonder which one of you all is the biggest nut [19:37] * theblazehen_ goes to bed [19:39] night theblazehen_ [19:44] Night theblazehen_ [19:44] Why do you wonder that Kilos ? [19:44] well its like a competition [19:45] just when i think i found him someone else comes up with something even more nuts [19:46] things like [19:46] Shut your whore mouth [19:46] hahaha [19:47] sis man [19:49] Haha [19:49] That is a horrible habit I picked up when trying to over-exaggerate a stance :P [19:49] why you dress up like a weed [19:50] with such a bright future you gotta wear shades [19:50] put your face there man, then you can wear shades [19:51] weeds like the sun [19:52] inetpro: how much time you got? [19:52] But...that is my face [19:53] no man [19:53] There was an accident at pelindaba [19:53] Kilos: why? [19:53] It left me lik that [19:53] if it is you need a shave worse than i do [19:53] i just want to know what this does inetpro [19:54] not end result , step by step [19:54] ../../venv/bin/nikola serve [19:54] the first bit [19:54] ../.. [19:54] is that cli cheats' [19:55] In the file system, . is "this directory" .. is "the directory just abover this directory" [19:55] so ../.. goes up two directories [19:55] then looks for the directory called venv, inside which is /bin/nikola, an executable [19:56] It is run with the argument serve [19:56] Kilos: what gremble said ^^ [19:56] whew [19:56] now the pro smiling again [19:56] ok so [19:56] to create a server on localhost:8000, and parse the reStructedText files to turn them into the website [19:57] that will only work when you are in the right folder to start with [19:57] Yes [19:57] aha [19:57] and if /venv/ exists [19:57] if I recall correctly, python virtual environments can have any name [19:58] i tried the nikola thing this morning and only got it going after cd blah blah a few times [19:58] Ah ok [19:59] i first tried going with my browser but only after that serv command did browser fing the page [19:59] this virtual thing is lots for me to savvy [19:59] Yes, because the page doesn't exist before you serv it [20:01] but he leaves me to battle first [20:05]