[00:18] <turntogodnow> !ops
[01:19] <trhk> hi
[04:00] <valorie> !info testdrive
[07:40] <ali__> Hey all. I'm about to install Kubuntu next to UEFI Windows 8. Most likely after Kubuntu is finished installing, it won't load GRUB. Tutorials say to boot back into live linux and to use "boot-repair" from "repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair." My question is if this will work with Kubuntu? Is there a different rep for Kub?
[07:46] <ali__> useless
[10:25] <Guest451> hi
[11:15] <reb_> I'm currently trying out Plasma 5 Kubuntu, does it come with the newest version already? how can I update it? because currently is pretty much unusable, constantly freezing and such.
[11:16] <reb_> I mean plasma 5
[12:19] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[12:33] <andersl> Hi. I downloaded a kubuntu-ci live image to try plasma 5/kf5, but I can not log into it. What is the password again?
[12:40] <apparle> Guys how to set the preferences of what files are used by firefox on downloaded files?
[12:40] <BluesKaj_> andersl, there's no password, kubuntu-ci [ackages are very unstable , try the recovery kernel then update and upgrade
[12:41] <andersl> no
[12:41] <andersl> I try to find another image. Preferebly something semistable, just want to try out plasma 5, but I do not want to fight ghosts in order to achieve that
[12:42]  * BluesKaj_ shrugs , fine
[12:46] <andersl> thanks for your input anyway :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj_> apparle, in FF edit>preferences>general>downloads>save files to, then choose the folder you want
[12:54] <apparle> BluesKaj_: so the thing is, I've set PDF files to be opened inside firefox itself, if possible
[12:55] <apparle> BluesKaj_: Now this happens correctly if I click on pdf links. But if some link redirects to pdf, then it gets downloaded and then firefox is trying to open with Krita
[12:55] <BluesKaj_> that's a different thing altogether
[12:56] <apparle> I think I asked a wrong question. I meant how does firefox decide what application to use for different file types
[12:59] <BluesKaj_> apparle,  in FF edit>preferences>applications
[13:00] <apparle> so there I have set it to preview in firefox
[13:00] <apparle> but that works fine for links which I click.
[13:01] <apparle> now if I right click and save as... to download the file
[13:01] <apparle> the download completes, and I click to open it, then it opens outside firefox
[13:01] <apparle> and I've no idea how firefox decides which application to open it with
[13:06] <BluesKaj_> apparle, the pdf files will use the pdf app you have as default, FF doesn't save the pdf as a link, however other html files will ,open with FF of course if it;s the default browser
[13:06] <apparle> no, you are not getting my point
[13:07] <BluesKaj_> guess not
[13:07] <apparle> in KDE my default app is set to Okular
[13:07] <apparle> so dolphin opens a PDF file with okular
[13:07] <BluesKaj_> for pdf, ok
[13:08] <apparle> inside firefox I have set the PDF to "preview in firefox"
[13:08] <apparle> so if I click on somelike on internet which is a PDF file, it will open inside firefox itself, which is also fine.
[13:08] <apparle> some link*
[13:09] <apparle> I know I want to save this file, so instead of clicking I just right click and "save as" the file.
[13:09] <apparle> so it starts downloading in the download manager and eventually the download completes
[13:10] <apparle> I click on this completed download, it opens with "Krita"
[13:10] <apparle> it neither previews inside firefox, nor it opens through okular
[13:11] <BluesKaj_> apparle, just copy the file, rather than save as
[13:12] <artiomjar> when you do the debootstrap with package exclusion parameter, the excluded package is still installed. sudo debootstrap --arch=amd64 --exclude=hostname --components=main,universe --variant=minbase --print-debs utopic .kubuntu ftp://mirror.as43289.net/ubuntu/ is this a bug?
[13:13] <apparle> BluesKaj_: It's not a question of one file. I know workarounds like going to the location and opening it dolphin. I'm trying to figure out from where does firefox decide that Krita is the applicaiton to use for PDF files
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> apparle, try searching in about:config in FF, pdf and krita perhaps
[13:19] <apparle> didn't find anything. already tried that
[13:20] <apparle> although in the drop down menu in Preferences->Applications->PDF
[13:20] <apparle> I have "Use as default (Krita)"
[13:20] <apparle> I don't know why firefox things Krita is default
[13:21] <BluesKaj_> apparle, then edit the line to use pdf
[13:23] <apparle> I eidt and change to "preview in firefox"
[13:23] <apparle> that's why I'm stumped... I'm half in mind to actually open and start reading firefox source
[13:26] <apparle> btw, I'm sorry for all the typos. I don't know what's wrong. My english is not this bad also...
[13:30] <Avihay_work> apparle: run an experiment for me? what does "mimeopen -D /usr/share/cups/data/default-testpage.pdf" do for you (you may use any other pdf file name
[13:32] <apparle> it is asking me what to open the file with.
[13:33] <Avihay_work> so it displayes 1) other... ? apparle
[13:33] <apparle> yes
[13:34] <Avihay_work> how bout you look at: Not entirely sure - two places that might play a part in this:
[13:34] <Avihay_work> ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[13:34] <Avihay_work> /usr/share/applications/defaults.list (which points to /var/cache/gio-2.0/gnome-defaults.list)
[13:35] <apparle> first one does not have an entry for pdf. 2nd one has an entry for evince
[13:36] <BluesKaj_> apparle, what does file associations in system settings display as default if you type in pdf ?
[13:36] <apparle> It should be okular, but let me reconfirm
[13:37] <apparle> Okular it is
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> yeah m same
[13:37] <Avihay_work> then I guess you go to ff, turn preview pdf to download or ask or whatever, pick a pdf to download, thn tell it open with okular, and return ff to preview mode?
[13:38] <apparle> Avihay_work: I think I did try that, but let me try it once again
[13:39] <Avihay_work> sorry for the shoddy penmanship
[13:39] <BluesKaj_> Avihay_work, that seems like a good suggestion then you have a choice
[13:40] <BluesKaj_> being a home user , I don't run into these kinds of situations much
[13:48] <apparle> no
[13:48] <apparle> still Krita :(
[13:48] <apparle> Avihay_work: BluesKaj_ Any more ideas ?
[13:50] <Avihay_work> uninstall krita, open a pdf from downloads, tell it okular, reinstall krita, stopped working? reinstall okular, doesn't work? shoot computer
[13:50] <BluesKaj_> apparle, nope , I'm stumped too ...krita must see the pdf file as an image file ..it's the only thing that makes sense to me, but why?
[13:51] <apparle> firefox*
[13:51] <Avihay_work> or  install nautilus and change the GTK file associations with it
[13:51] <apparle> Avihay_work: I'm a student. Can't afford shooting the computer
[13:52] <Avihay_work> go to one of the tall buildings in your faculty and toss the computer over the ledge then
[13:52] <apparle> Avihay_work: Is there any other place I can modify GTK file associations ?
[13:52] <apparle> Why doesn't someone write firefox with Qt :(
[13:53] <Avihay_work> I don't GTK much, so ask in #ubuntu ? I tried google searching it for a bit for you, but came up a bit short
[13:53] <BluesKaj_> apparle, because mozilla is hypnotized by GTK :)
[13:53] <apparle> I heard Unity itself is considering moving to Qt
[13:54] <Avihay_work> firefox uses XUL wich is a meta toolkit that uses an existing toolkit to draw, for some reason, on linux, or on buntu, it choses GTK
[13:54] <Avihay_work> at compile time
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> yes , I heard that too ,aamof they already experiment with it , Qt
[13:55] <apparle> Avihay_work: so you are saying, technically someone can compile firefox with Qt as well ?
[14:08] <Avihay_work> apparle: why, yes, I guess I am.
[14:09] <apparle> Avihay_work: That obviously raises the question, why has no one attempted to do so till now !?
[14:09] <Avihay_work> unity is moveing to qt. ubontu movile is ising qt already
[14:09] <Avihay_work> I think there were attempts
[14:10] <apparle> I don't have the knowledge to do so, but if there is such an effort I'd love to contribute.
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> apparle, look here http://qt-project.org/wiki/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[14:13] <apparle> BluesKaj_: yeah I'm in process of learning Qt
[14:14] <Avihay_work> apparle:  http://chakraos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=12538 :-<
[14:15] <apparle> somehow I've always faced a lot of issues with KDE and firefox.
[14:15] <BluesKaj_> how to get FF to use Qt is the question though, and that sounds like a major project to me .. apparle have you considered a different browser that uses webkit
[14:16] <apparle> I am aware of rekonq but it is too slow
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> QupZilla ?
[14:16] <apparle> chromium seems to be crashign with any flash for last month
[14:16] <apparle> this one I did not know
[14:16] <apparle> what is QupZilla ?
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QupZilla
[14:17] <BluesKaj_> apparle, don't use chromium , use google-chrome , it has it's own builtin flash
[14:17] <Guest87553> great for Netflix :)
[14:18] <apparle> BluesKaj_: you can use the pepperflash with chromium as well. Irrespective of that, google chrome is also crashing
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> netflix...bah humbug :)
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> apparle, pepperflash isn't being updated/upgrade anymore afaik
[14:19] <apparle> BluesKaj_: but pepperflash is the name of flash which is inside chrome
[14:24] <BluesKaj_> apparle, it's not being maintained fopr chromium, linux users are being encouraged to switch to chrome for some reason
[14:25] <BluesKaj_> one chrome linux browser is enough I guess
[14:25] <apparle> The whole point why people use Chromium is because Google Chrome isn't completely open source
[14:26] <apparle> I have both of them installed and flash is crashing on both... so no difference for me
[14:27] <BluesKaj_> apparle, well I use what works for me, not going to let some philosophical argument get in the way of usability
[14:28] <Guest87553> The sooner HTML5 replaces Flash the better
[14:28] <BluesKaj_> odd, chrome is working fine here plasma4 kde 4.14.1 on kubuntu 14.10
[14:29] <apparle> I'm on 14.04 32bit
[14:29] <Guest87553> It will be environment specific, Chrome and Chromium with Flash both work fine for me across 3 machines, one on Mint, the others on Kubuntu 14.10 Plasma 5
[14:29] <apparle> Guest87553: I agree, but doesn't look like it will happen any time soon
[14:30] <apparle> BluesKaj_: QupZilla and Rekonq are almost same I'd say
[14:31] <Dave42> What's wrong with Firefox, by the way?
[14:31] <BluesKaj_> apparle, heh, ok , rekonq is a bust
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> Dave42, it uses gtk :)
[14:32] <Dave42> So?  I must have missed something
[14:33] <apparle> BluesKaj_: for both rekonq and qupzilla it can't play youtube videos.
[14:33] <apparle> Dave42: It is not so well integrated in KDE environment
[14:33] <apparle> that's where the discussion got started, now it is sort of offtopic
[14:33] <Dave42> heh
[14:34] <Dave42> in what way does it not integrate well with KDE?
[14:34] <apparle> :D :D
[14:34] <BluesKaj_> apparle, rekonq never worked for me on youtube, altho i seldom use youtube
[14:35] <apparle> Dave42: so firefox thinks that it should open PDF files with Krita. Rest of KDE thinks it should open with Okular. I can't fix it
[14:35] <Dave42> I see what you mean
[14:35] <Dave42> Save the PDF and open it manually?
[14:36] <apparle> yeah that is what I do everyday
[14:36] <apparle> BluesKaj_: btw, Chrome gets the file associations and everything just perfect. I don't get how firefox hasn't got it right in so many years
[14:37] <Dave42> I can feel the frustration :(
[14:38] <BluesKaj_> yeah, I used FF for yrs off and on , never consistently, I've been using chromium and now chrome as my default for over a yr now and have no desire or reason to change.
[14:39] <apparle> btw, any of you know what is kded ?
[14:39] <Dave42> kde daemon?
[14:41] <apparle> so I want to start development on an app. KDEConnect to be precise.
[14:41] <Dave42> Do you know what a daemon is?
[14:41] <apparle> not really, it's a background process is all I know
[14:41] <Dave42> pretty much, it's like a service in Windows
[14:41] <apparle> Dave42: no idea about Windows service either
[14:42] <BluesKaj_> yeah muon describes kded as "KDED runs in the background and performs a number of small tasks. Some of these tasks are built in, others are started on demand"
[14:42] <Dave42> just something that runs in the background to do things that don't require your attention/knowledge
[14:43] <apparle> hmm... so if something is a daemon, can we just kill it and launch it, or there is some process to start/stop it ?
[14:47] <Dave42> depends what it is
[14:48] <Dave42> you been using Linux long, apparle?
[14:49] <apparle> Dave42: on and off
[14:50] <apparle> Dave42: used linux as my main operating system from 2008-2011. Then used KDE3.5 and RHEL4 for some office work, but main desktop as Windows. Now back on Linux
[14:50] <Dave42> Ahh okay
[14:50] <apparle> so missed what all happened in the linux world during 2011 to 2014
[14:50] <Dave42> Do you work with Linux, still?
[14:50] <apparle> no, back to student life
[14:51] <Dave42> Hah :)
[14:51] <apparle> now a graduate student. so only machine I have is my laptop
[14:52] <apparle> Dave42: anyway... so I wanted to contribute to the KDEConnect project. Got started by building it. But I'm not sure how to launch it, since it is a daemon
[14:52] <Dave42> sec, phone
[14:52] <Dave42> telemarketers -- on a Sunday... :@
[14:54] <apparle> :D
[14:54] <Dave42> I'm not too sure, I've never touched KDE Connect
[14:55] <Dave42> they're usually controled using something like "sudo service daemon-name start/stop/restart
[14:55] <Dave42> "
[14:55] <Dave42> or /etc/init.d/daemonname start/stop/restart
[14:58] <Dave42> Maybe this mini 'how-to' can help?
[14:58] <Dave42> http://larsemil.se/small-howto-on-kde-connect-and-ubuntu/
[14:58] <apparle> kde daemons aren't listen in either place as far as I know
[14:59] <apparle> Dave42: I don't have any issues getting it up and running. I am not sure how to run my locally built version, so that I can make changes to it.
[15:00] <Dave42> apparle I'm gonna set it up now and see if I can shine some light on it
[15:00] <apparle> Dave42: sure. It is a really cool project.
[15:05] <Dave42> apparle difficulties compiling it at the moment
[15:05] <Dave42> nm, there's a package :D
[15:06] <apparle> package works like a charm
[15:07] <Dave42> run the following in the terminal
[15:07] <Dave42> ps -ef | grep kdeconnect
[15:07] <Dave42> what's the output
[15:09] <Dave42> apparle
[15:10] <apparle> it is showing the installed version of kdeconnectd running
[15:12] <Dave42> copy and paste the output
[15:12] <Dave42> if it's running, what's the problem? :P
[15:15] <apparle> Dave42: The package version is working fine. I setup up my own build environment, made a very very minor change to the source code and built it. Now I want to run this version. It starts running but is not pairing with my phone
[15:17] <Dave42> did you change the version number in your build?
[15:30] <apparle> version number of ?
[16:24] <Linusnewb> good evening everybody
[16:24] <Linusnewb> is the kubuntu muon server still offline?
[16:32] <ikonia> muon server ?
[16:53] <Linusnewb> ikonia i mean muon software too add new apps for kubuntu it's still blank
[16:53] <ikonia> doesn't that just read from the ubuntu sources ?
[16:53] <ikonia> eg: sourcs.list
[16:54] <Linusnewb> i think it's read by default but is still blank
[16:56] <Graf_Westerholt> Linusnewb, did you try apt-get?
[16:56] <Linusnewb> i can install via apt get normal
[16:56] <Graf_Westerholt> ok
[17:57] <artiomjar> when you do the debootstrap with package exclusion parameter, the excluded package is still installed. sudo debootstrap --arch=amd64 --exclude=hostname --components=main,universe --variant=minbase --print-debs utopic .kubuntu ftp://mirror.as43289.net/ubuntu/ is this a bug?
[21:34] <DIsh> Hi. I am looking for some help with a suspend issue.  I have a LUKS USB partition which I have configured to unlock at boot with a keyfile.  Since then I cannot suspend as screen goes black but fails to power down. Any ideas? Thanks
[21:44] <gnu_d> Hi, how do I reenable hibernate in KDE ? - pm-hibernate works?
[22:05] <AleksejsHome> Hi, after restart Konsole got some bug: now I cannot write in languages that use any character beyond ascii.
[22:06] <AleksejsHome> any other program doesn't have this problem
[22:28] <Walex> AleksejsHome: that's unlikely... what does "locale" say in Konsole?
[22:29] <Walex> AleksejsHome: also look at the menu "View->Set Encoding"
[22:40] <AleksejsHome> Walex: View->Enc is UTF-8