[04:34] <Kilos> morning all of ya :)
[04:37] <Kilos> eish 231m upgrade
[04:37] <Kilos> thats gotta wait
[07:00] <Kilos> ai! me mortally wounded
[07:11] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[08:33] <Kilos> hi superfly Squirm inetpro theblazehen_ 
[08:55] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo :)
[09:05] <theblazehen_> Hi Kilos ThatGraemeGuy 
[09:36] <gremble> o/
[10:19] <Kilos> hi gremble 
[10:20] <charl> good morning
[10:20] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[10:20]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[10:20] <charl> hi Kilos 
[10:21] <Kilos> hi charl 
[10:21] <Kilos> Maaz: coffee please
[10:21] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[10:24] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[10:25] <Kilos> Maaz: ty
[10:25] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[10:26] <gremble> Good morning Kilos and charl 
[10:30] <Kilos> hehe you woke kinda late , its avy already
[10:30] <Kilos> comfy bed there
[10:31] <Kilos> not as bad as the pro though, he says morning at 6pm
[10:32] <gremble> I went to bed at 3:30 :P
[10:33] <gremble> The dogs had me up at 6 again
[10:33] <gremble> So I just went to bed and slept
[10:33] <Kilos> wow what were you doing till then?
[10:33] <gremble> writing
[10:33] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:41] <charl> Maaz: danke
[10:41] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[10:41] <charl> hi gremble 
[11:41] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:48] <charl> hi magespawn 
[11:48] <charl> how are you today
[11:48] <magespawn> hi charl
[11:48] <magespawn> good and you?
[11:48] <charl> good good
[11:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[11:59]  * Kilos pigged out on watermelon. almost look preggy
[12:01] <Kilos> hi SDCDev 
[12:03] <SDCDev> hey Kilos, how are you?
[12:03] <Kilos> good ty and you?
[12:11] <SDCDev> im good thanks :) just tired :<
[12:12] <Kilos> sjoe! at lunch time?
[12:28] <nlsthzn> o/
[12:33] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[12:33] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , alo :)
[12:33]  * nlsthzn is now not running Linux or Windows >.<
[12:34] <Kilos> lol what now?
[12:35] <Kilos> android
[12:36] <nlsthzn> osx
[12:36] <Kilos> mac?
[12:37] <nlsthzn> mackintosh running the latest and greatest from apple
[12:37] <nlsthzn> I have no idea why I did, I guess because I can 
[12:37] <Kilos> lol what bank did you rob?
[12:39] <nlsthzn> didn't buy it... I installed it on my PC
[12:39] <Kilos> aha
[12:40] <Kilos> well at least it can do irc
[12:40] <nlsthzn> I am using 99% of the same apps that I used in Windows and in Linux :p
[12:41] <nlsthzn> and it was about the same amount of googling and swearing as installing linux about five years ago
[12:42] <Kilos> hahahaha
[12:42] <superfly> nlsthzn: a hackintosh?
[12:43] <nlsthzn> yup... running yosemite all updates and everything working (thus far) superfly 
[12:43] <superfly> ah
[12:43] <superfly> I have a Mac Mini here. Still holding out on Yosemite
[12:43] <superfly> need to make sure OpenLP runs fine on it first (got someone else being the guineapig
[12:44] <nlsthzn> except I am getting a little bit of distortion on the sound (which may be because I have 5.1 connected but not set up properly I think)
[12:44] <nlsthzn> but it seems to be only in browser and not other apps
[12:45] <nlsthzn> first time on mac for me ... dabbled a bit in box but never on real hardware
[12:45] <nlsthzn> that worked well in any case
[12:45] <nlsthzn> even playing games
[12:50] <Kilos> enjoy it
[12:51] <nlsthzn> biggest issue is my normal screen doesn't identify itself properly so I have a work around in linux but nothing yet for OS X so I am using a 32" LCD TV for a screen >.< and it is slightly to close to my face for comfort :p
[12:51] <Kilos> hahaha
[12:51] <Kilos> take off your glasses
[12:56] <magespawn> it is a good way to get practice an os
[13:13] <magespawn> let me retype that
[13:14] <magespawn> it is a good way to get practice with an os
[13:14] <Kilos> we understand
[13:14] <Kilos> you hands go faster than your head at times
[13:15] <Kilos> have you thought about your wifi prob yet?
[13:15] <magespawn> nlsthzn: how close is it to BSD/OpenBSD/FreeBSD?
[13:16] <magespawn> yes Kilos i will just have to find an open channel
[13:16] <Kilos> oh you sure thats the prob?
[13:17] <Kilos> not some obstructions like trees
[13:17] <magespawn> i do not think so Kilos, trees grow but not that fast
[13:18] <magespawn> and when i scan from the sites it shows all the other networks in the area
[13:18] <Kilos> depends on the clearance you had before summer
[13:18] <Kilos> aha
[13:18] <nlsthzn> magespawn, I have no idea... I think they have wondered away far enough to only have bits and pieces 
[13:19] <nlsthzn> they also use the mach kernel afaik 
[13:23] <magespawn> Kilos there are at least two others that are on the same frequency
[13:26] <Kilos> thats good to know
[13:26] <Kilos> is it major work to change channels
[13:26] <Kilos> oh its just you main link to empangeni
[13:26] <Kilos> not all of the points surely
[13:27] <magespawn> no not major, and yes it is just the one link
[15:03] <superfly> Maaz: tell magespawn Darwin is the name of the kernel. It looks like BSD and smells like BSD, but it's far removed from BSD. Anyone who says OS X is just BSD is talking nonsense.
[15:03] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[15:59] <Squirm> Hello
[16:04] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[16:11] <superfly> hi Squirm. Gotta go to church now, but maybe coffee tomorrow? I presume you're working during the day, so maybe in the evening? Chat later.
[16:17] <Squirm> Hey superfly, would have been cool, but have work in the evening too..... Maybe Tuesday could work
[16:17] <Squirm> will let you know too
[17:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[17:24] <inetpro> oops... evening already?
[17:27] <Kilos> hahaha hiya inetpro 
[17:29] <Kilos> gremble: see ^^
[17:32] <inetpro> uh?
[17:33] <Kilos> i can laugh at twitter with their suggestions of who to follow
[17:33] <Kilos> hi SmilyBorg 
[17:33] <SmilyBorg> Hi Kilos
[17:33] <Kilos> they advise ubuntuza to follow KFC
[17:49] <Kilos> sjoe graphine i think it is called, a sheet as thin as paper can hold the weight of an elephant
[17:50] <Kilos> they wanna make roll up cell phones with it and paper thin tvs
[17:50] <Kilos> see more in fb 50 50
[18:40]  * Kilos watching the hobbit on mnet
[18:48] <magespawn> good evening
[18:48] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, superfly on freenode told me "tell magespawn Darwin is the name of the kernel. It looks like BSD and smells like BSD, but it's far removed from BSD. Anyone who says OS X is just BSD is talking nonsense." 3 hours, 45 minutes and 5 seconds ago
[18:48] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[18:52] <magespawn> hi
[18:53] <magespawn> Maaz tell superfly thanks for the heads up
[18:53] <Maaz> magespawn: Got it, I'll tell superfly on freenode
[18:57] <inetpro> so I ended up installing qemu-kvm late last night, or rather make that early this morning, even after I actually wanted to sleep early.... 
[18:57] <inetpro> be that as it may... I like it much more than virtualbox
[18:58] <inetpro> question, how do I convert the installed VM of Ubuntu Server 14.04 to KVM?
[18:58] <Kilos> virtualbox is slow i think is that thing leaner
[19:00] <magespawn> inetpro could you use something like clonezilla?
[19:01] <inetpro> actually looks like I should just clone it and them import or something like that... there are solutions for this
[19:01]  * inetpro busy reading
[19:02] <Kilos> google is your friend
[19:02] <Kilos> and man
[19:02] <Kilos> and you are my friend
[19:03] <inetpro> haha
[19:03] <Kilos> die engelse is slim ne
[19:04] <inetpro> just need to get over the error "VT-x is being used by another hypervisor" first in order to stop the paused host before I clone
[19:26] <Kilos> dwarves are like van der merwes, their ears dont listen good
[19:28] <magespawn> have you meet many dwarves Kilos ?
[19:28] <inetpro> nice!
[19:28]  * Kilos watching hobbit
[19:28] <inetpro> what I needed is:
[19:28] <inetpro> VBoxManage clonehd /path/to/hard_drive_image/guesthd.vdi /path/to/hard_drive_image.img --format raw
[19:28] <Kilos> fixed inetpro ?
[19:29] <inetpro> after doing tha, KVM can simply import
[19:29] <Kilos> well done
[19:29] <inetpro> Kilos: yep, now I can uninstall VBox
[19:29] <inetpro> or just not use it
[19:30] <Kilos> jy nogal slim vir n toppie ne
[19:35] <inetpro> moet wees
[19:35] <inetpro> as jy nie sterk is nie moet jy slim weed
[19:35] <inetpro> wees
[19:47] <inetpro> yikes!
[19:47] <inetpro> but I made one very silly mistake
[19:47] <inetpro> Kilos: gee my daai adres van jou man
[19:48]  * inetpro thought when importing the raw image that it had made another copy
[19:49] <inetpro> deleted the image and effectively killed the new machine
[19:49]  * inetpro shall take that as a lesson
[19:50] <Kilos> watter een inetpro ?
[19:50] <inetpro> first cleaned up the VBox image and then wiped the raw image as well, so can not even re-generate
[19:50] <Kilos> eish
[19:50] <inetpro> just have to stay late and re-install again
[19:51] <Kilos> watter adres soek jy
[19:51] <inetpro> :-)
[19:51] <Kilos> o lolol
[19:51] <Kilos> domdonner
[19:51] <inetpro> presies
[19:53] <Kilos> hahaha
[20:01] <inetpro> Kilos: gelukkig het ek nog my ISOs
[20:02] <inetpro> net die updates wat onnodig weer gedownload moet word
[20:02] <Kilos> sjoe ja baie gelukkig
[20:02] <Kilos> lol spaar jy nie jou archives nie?
[20:02] <inetpro> installasie is amper vinniger as om die cloning te doen
[20:03] <Kilos> ek doen dit gereeld vandat jy my geleer het van rsync
[20:12] <magespawn> cloning saves the data though, if you have beeni using the machine
[20:13] <Kilos> ja but he removed his cloned thing too
[20:13] <Kilos> always keep a copy of /var/cache/apt/archives somewhere else is you use 3g
[20:14] <Kilos> if*
[20:16] <magespawn> inetpro what was the vm for?
[20:17] <inetpro> magespawn: now just experimentations... started only last night... nothing set up yet, so not serious at all
[20:21] <magespawn> ahh right, cool beans
[20:21] <Kilos> you didnt say anything man
[20:21] <Kilos> ai!
[20:21] <Kilos> van der merwes
[20:21] <Kilos> what was the vm for
[20:22] <Kilos> experiment with what
[20:22] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel darem met my volk
[20:22] <inetpro> Kilos: just experimentations
[20:22] <magespawn> i wonder if it would be possible to run recovery programs on a deleted vm
[20:22] <Kilos> with what
[20:22] <inetpro> anything
[20:22] <Kilos> sigh
[20:23] <inetpro> always nice to have spares lying around
[20:23] <Kilos> spare what?
[20:23] <inetpro> spare machines
[20:23] <Kilos> aha'
[20:24] <Kilos> this is worse than pulling teeth
[20:24] <inetpro> ai!
[20:24] <inetpro> must I spell it out?
[20:24] <Kilos> always
[20:26] <magespawn> for testing different software, or setups or combinations of settings etc also allows you to specify the hardware like ram etc
[20:27] <inetpro> If I want to test server related stuff, I'll rather test in a VM locally before I try stuff in the real world out there
[20:27] <Kilos> ty for that knowlege
[20:27] <inetpro> the VM allows me to simulate a full production environment
[20:28] <magespawn> always best to have a test rig first in case something goes very wrong
[20:28] <inetpro> excatlky
[20:28] <magespawn> a safety net if you will
[20:31] <Kilos> aw now there gotta be another hobbit because this one ends where they release the dragon
[20:31] <Kilos> another year or 2 to wait
[20:32] <magespawn> i think they have already released it Kilos 
[20:32] <magespawn> but i am out of things a bit
[20:34] <Kilos> oh yay
[20:34] <Kilos> hopefully they show it soon then before i forget this one
[20:35] <Kilos> i had a good day today, didnt break anything
[20:36] <Kilos> inetpro: you trying the server with that static thing
[20:36] <Kilos> nikola
[20:36] <inetpro> Kilos: not yet
[20:37] <inetpro> don't really need the server for that
[20:37] <Kilos> oh
[20:38] <inetpro> nikola is simple enough on any desktop 
[20:39] <Kilos> glad you find it simple
[20:39] <inetpro> ai!
[20:40] <Kilos> i go crash now
[20:40] <Kilos> you all sleep tight
[20:41] <inetpro> good night oom
[20:41] <Kilos> and dont stay up too late
[20:41] <Kilos> night my peeps
[20:43] <magespawn> i am also out of here, good night
[22:11] <superfly> Squirm: Tuesday evening could work.
[22:11] <Maaz> superfly: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell superfly thanks for the heads up" 3 hours, 18 minutes and 3 seconds ago