[04:28] <apparle> hi, does KDE not load KCM modules, services installed under /usr/local ? How do enable this?
[05:56] <valorie> oh very nice
[05:56] <valorie> happy Christmas to you, MerryChristmas
[05:58] <MerryChristmas> Heh, thank you valorie :)
[06:05]  * tazz hugs valorie 
[06:06] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to you as well, tazz
[06:06] <valorie> christmas cheer is welcome
[06:06] <valorie> I got bad news today: my cousin has cancer
[06:07] <valorie> everywhere: lung, brain, stomach, lymph
[06:07] <valorie> he's only 57
[06:28]  * tazz hugs valorie 
[06:28] <tazz> :(
[06:28] <valorie> ty
[09:16] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:16]  * Neo31 back to town Riddell 
[09:17] <Neo31> how did things go ?
[10:27] <sitter> does anyone want to review tarball of qapt3.0 before I release?
[10:28] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[10:29] <_Groo_> could someone take a look at this
[10:29] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ZpXc4bCk
[10:29] <_Groo_> utopic cant be upgraded anymore with kubuntu-ci because of the changes in qt
[10:30] <_Groo_> it breaks a lot of stuff like appmenu-qt5 checkbox-gui kubuntu-driver-manager kubuntu-notification-helper liboxideqt-qmlplugin liboxideqtquick0 libqt5organizer5 libunity-webapps0 python3-pyqt5 qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-extras-browser-plugin
[10:30] <_Groo_> sad face :(
[10:31] <sitter> all of which are not CI supported
[10:31] <_Groo_> sitter: hi sitter
[10:32] <_Groo_> sitter: so what can be done about it?
[10:32] <sitter> nothing
[10:32] <sitter> py-qt5 needs CIing
[10:32] <sitter> everything else needs to wait for 5.4.0 to be completely landed
[10:32] <sitter> and even then stuff is going to be not installable
[10:33] <_Groo_> if i opt to remove it as per apt-get, what will it break? will i be able to still use unity + kf5?
[10:33] <sitter> probably not
[10:34] <sitter> unity things heavily insist on linking against private API from what I have seen
[10:34] <_Groo_> well im gonna test and revert (thank you apt-btrfs) if all breaks
[10:36] <_Groo_> do you know if btrfs will be the default for 15.04? because if it is it would be nice to ship apt-brtfs by default
[10:48] <_Groo_> well it worked, so im happy :D
[10:48] <_Groo_> i just need some unity has a fallback when kf5 is broken
[10:53] <sitter> I keep telling you not to use landing
[10:55] <_Groo_> sitter: i eat our own dog food
[10:55] <_Groo_> sitter: im the one always reporting stuff thats broken :) pitty i dont have more time to be more active doing packages
[10:55] <_Groo_> sitter: at least i maintain the graphics ppa https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/
[10:56] <_Groo_> phoronix users use it a lot
[10:57] <sitter> you report things we know
[10:57] <sitter> things turn red when something is astray
[10:59] <_Groo_> sitter: not really, most of the stuff i report are errors in the packages themselves, but if you think im not being useful, ill just crawl to my corner :)
[11:00] <sitter> _Groo_: errors in the packages apply to snapshots as well
[11:01] <sitter> I am not saying you are not being useful I am saying you are making your life harder by not using the daily snapshot because the landing ppa is breaking a lot by design
[11:01] <_Groo_> sitter: noted, ill stay quiet
[11:09] <Sergobot> Riddell: are you here?
[11:33] <sitter> yofel: what's the plan for tagging and debcommit? I seem to have forgotten :O
[11:58] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[12:16] <BluesKaj_> hiyas all
[12:17] <soee> hiho BluesKaj_
[12:17] <BluesKaj_> hey soee
[12:18] <Riddell> hi Sergobot, bukai 
[12:18] <Riddell> I'm mostly not here today
[12:19] <bukai> Riddell: Hi, Christmas celebrations?
[12:20] <bukai> Riddell: I have tested the theme properly but the pages were not a part of the theme , any Idea how to import the pages created on the local machine?
[12:21] <bukai> or else I have to redo the entire news page :(
[12:22] <Riddell> bukai: no I don't know, you'd need to ask someone who knows more about wordpress like ovidiu-florin or soee 
[12:23] <bukai> Riddell: ok
[12:23] <bukai> soee: ping
[12:28] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: how did you make the pages?
[12:28] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I went to pages and then add page
[12:29] <ovidiu-florin> and what's the problem?
[12:29] <bukai> for the news it was posts.
[12:30] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: to me the homepage still look's not finished: http://test2.kubuntu.co.uk/wordpress/
[12:30] <ovidiu-florin> and there's no link to go to the news page
[12:32] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: yes the news page is not done! it is done on my local system . is there any way to put it on the remote system?
[12:34] <ovidiu-florin> I think easiest would be to replicate the settings
[12:34] <ovidiu-florin> and safest
[12:34] <ovidiu-florin> so that you don't break some DB settings
[12:35] <ovidiu-florin> can you give me an admin user on that WP instance?
[12:35] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: ^
[12:38] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: i removed the widgets but it seems i put an extra s somewhere :(
[12:38] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: first of all, let me get this WP instance up to date
[12:41]  * sitter wonders
[12:41] <sitter> shadeslayer: piiiiing
[12:42] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: what about?
[12:42] <sitter> if we should put energy into the ubiquity UI or just wait for calamares
[12:42] <sitter> perhaps we should wire up calamares UI to ubiquity :O
[12:43] <shadeslayer> sitter: huh?
[12:44] <sitter> shadeslayer: how feasable would it be to make calamares a UbiquityUI instance?
[12:46] <shadeslayer> Errr
[12:47] <shadeslayer> Not sure tbh, dont think its structured that way
[12:48] <sitter> kubotu: order cookies, xmas
[12:48]  * kubotu slides a whole bunch of last year's, now all dry cookies, down the crappy decorated and totally falling apart bar to sitter and shouts: Happy whatever -.-
[12:48] <sitter> kubotu: u really should get newar cookies
[12:48] <sitter> shadeslayer: anyone ever tossed the idea of adopting calmares as debian-kde?
[12:48] <sitter> s/as/at
[12:49] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: you mentioned some images that need to be uploaded
[12:49] <shadeslayer> Nope, though it needs d-i support before it gets adopted probably
[12:50] <shadeslayer> Since it has 0 d-i support you cant do preseeding and other fancy thinga
[12:50] <shadeslayer> *Things
[12:50] <sitter> I experience a pain in my bum brought on by lack of longterm planning!
[12:51] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: yes
[12:51] <BluesKaj_> get out of the chair once in a while
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: can you please upload them?
[12:52] <bukai> but I am unable to upload it from the browser, should I directly put in on the server?
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> you can upload them from the browser now
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> I
[12:52] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ^
[12:52] <ovidiu-florin> I've fixed that
[12:53] <shadeslayer> sitter: the long term plan is to get d-i support somehow
[12:54] <sitter> shadeslayer: kindly talk to people about these matters please ... if debian doesn't want to adopt calamares then we'd have to maintain a replicate of ubiquity-core on our own which won't end well, or we'd have to wire up ubuqity-core to calamares ui, or we'd have to cleanup ubiquity-kde code and possibly adopt general calamares UI design as to have at least some uniformity which would require dev resources in 15.04+
[12:55] <bukai> Thanks, ovidiu-florin , what was the problem?
[12:55] <ovidiu-florin> no problem, just a default setting
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> News should not be a page, it should be a Category feed, IMO
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: do you have a different suggestion?
[12:58] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: I was thinking of making a page called news and there all the news will be posted in different catagory
[13:00] <Sergobot> Riddell: what's about my task? 
[13:05] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: and how do you provide the feed on that page? using Javascript?
[13:10] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: just using http://test.kubuntu.co.uk/category/news will just post the news without any design. Will it look good?
[13:16] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: no, but you can change that
[13:17] <ovidiu-florin> that's what a theme is
[13:19] <bukai> ovidiu-florin: ok, will do it. Btw thanks for making it editable from the browser, it is finally easy to work with.
[13:22] <ovidiu-florin> I fixed the permissions to 664 for all files and 666 to wp-content and this: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/update-wordpress-without-ftp/
[13:23] <ovidiu-florin> and updated plugins, themes and WP itself to latest
[13:24] <ovidiu-florin> bukai: also
[13:24] <ovidiu-florin> please keep all the theme changes in the github repo
[13:24] <ovidiu-florin> and keep a history of the changes
[15:19] <kranzer> Riddell: hello, are you here?
[15:41] <yofel> sitter: errr, good question. IIRC debcommit is unfeasable because nobody non-hardcodes "debian/" as tag prefix, so gbp would be the way to go
[15:41] <yofel> something like...
[15:41] <yofel> git-buildpackage --git-ignore-branch --git-tag-only --git-sign-tags --git-debian-tag='ubuntu/%(version)s' --git-keyid=$GPGKEY
[16:34] <sitter> mh
[16:34] <sitter> might as well use git directly then :P
[17:41] <Riddell> Sergobot: how's the task going?
[17:42] <Sergobot> Riddell: I finished it
[17:42] <Riddell> Sergobot: ooh? even those gemini files in a .deb ?
[17:43] <Sergobot> Riddell: I didn't do anything with gemini. Debs are built and I'm happy :)
[17:44] <Riddell> Sergobot: well the new files need to go somewhere
[17:44] <Riddell> else calligrra devs won't be happy
[17:44] <Sergobot> Riddell: okay :(
[17:45] <Sergobot> Riddell: so, what should I do?
[17:46] <Riddell> Sergobot: make a new calligragemini package and put all the gemini files in it
[17:46] <Riddell> and for all the other files in dh_install --list-missing work out what .install file they need to go into 
[17:47] <Riddell> (many need not go anywhere as listed in not-installed but many do need to be installed)
[17:48] <Sergobot> Riddell: could you give me ec2 server's IP adress?
[17:49] <Riddell> Sergobot: ec2-54-92-241-134.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[17:56] <Riddell> Sergobot: --list-missing is on stderr not stdout so you need to do some weird bash redirect thing 2>&1
[17:56] <Riddell> Sergobot: .so files in /usr/lib/libfoo.so are developer files that we don't want installed
[17:57] <Riddell> Sergobot: .so files in /usr/lib/kde4/foo.so are plugins that do want to be instaled
[18:01] <Sergobot> Riddell: I can't see all the output
[18:02] <Riddell> Sergobot: F12 then page up/down to scroll within byobu
[18:02] <Riddell> or pipe to less should work
[18:04] <Sergobot> Riddell: no effect with F12
[18:05] <Riddell> Sergobot: voila,  |less
[18:07] <Sergobot> Riddell: no effect :( Now it shows only .so files byt I can't scroll up
[18:07] <Sergobot> \*but
[18:08] <Riddell> Sergobot: it's at the top
[18:08] <Riddell> you can scroll down
[18:08] <Riddell> with arrow or page down
[18:09] <Sergobot> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/Gn7LubJ.png
[18:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: yeah that's what I see, press down arrow to scroll down
[18:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: and q to quit
[18:12] <Sergobot> Riddell: how to resize orange frame?
[18:13] <Riddell> Sergobot: it uses the smaller size of our two screens
[18:13] <Riddell> I detached
[18:14] <Riddell> I'm on my laptop which has a small screen rather than the large on in our office
[18:16] <Riddell> nice e-mail du jour https://paste.kde.org/ptgdjusz1
[18:16]  * Riddell out
[20:23] <soee> hiho, im back @ home
[20:57] <Buddyb> Hi all
[21:02] <soee> hiho Buddyb
[21:04] <Buddyb> hi soee, having issues with audio in a fresh lubuntu install
[21:04] <soee> Buddyb: try at #lubuntu
[21:04] <soee> this is kubuntu developers channel
[21:04] <soee> !lubuntu
[21:05] <Buddyb> ok thanks
[21:05] <Buddyb> no one there in lubuntu
[21:05] <Buddyb> so i thought i'd try
[21:06] <soee> Buddyb: you can always try @ #ubuntu as it is global *ubuntu channel
[21:08] <Buddyb> yea not very responsive ther
[21:08] <Buddyb> nobody responds to me
[21:08] <soee> did you described the issue, symptoms etc
[21:10] <Buddyb> yes, i guess i can go into further detail. should i specifiy i'm on lubuntu or will they not help
[21:12] <soee> yuo can try
[21:18] <Buddyb> will do
[21:18] <Buddyb> thanks again, have a good one