[20:37] <wxl> stgraber: Riddell: are you the right folks to bug about our dailies not rebuilding?
[20:37] <wxl> also true for other alpha1 participants
[20:37] <stgraber> oh, yeah, I'll fix that
[20:37] <wxl> thx stgraber :)
[20:37] <wxl> ping me if you need anything else!
[20:39] <stgraber> cron fixed
[20:40] <wxl> stgraber: is there anything we can do to ensure things happen more smoothly in the future? i know it's hard to follow cjwatson's footsteps, but we've had a couple hiccups
[20:40] <wxl> maybe a better workflow document is necessary?
[20:41] <stgraber> it's all covered in the wiki document already
[20:42] <stgraber> people not blowing up the crontab in the middle of the week would help
[20:42] <stgraber> but not much we can do about that one
[20:42] <wxl> yep i doubt that can be fixed
[20:42] <wxl> well i'll keep bugging you as needed but perhaps this is something the release team should discuss
[20:42] <wxl> thanks for your hard work :)
[21:09] <infinity> wxl: This has nothing to do with cjwatson's team change, the milestones have been a rotating one-man show for a long time, sometimes things just go wrong.
[21:11] <wxl> infinity: okie dokie. well, it's been mostly without problems previous cycles. this cycle seems to be following a trend of having problems. an observation that causes some concern. i just want the best for the community as a whole, so that's why i bring it up. not pointing fingers at people so much as the issue.
[21:12] <infinity> wxl: This cycle has had one milestone, it's hard to determine trends from that.
[21:13] <infinity> wxl: Anyhow, may I just suggest that while it's quite flattering to Colin, it's somewhat insulting to the rest of us to imply that we're not capable of doing the things we've been doing for years without him babysitting us. :P
[21:15] <wxl> infinity: there have been three issues for that one milestone. at least where i work, three times is a trend.
[21:16] <wxl> infinity: my assumption (probably unfounded) is that colin has been kind of running the show mostly. i've seen a lot of similar situations where someone leaving leads to problems because it's not adequately documented or improper training has been the issue. again, i'm not concerned about people. i'm concerned about the system supporting those people. tl;dr i believe that the release team is entirely c
[21:16] <wxl> apable of taking care of what's necessary :)
[21:17] <stgraber> Colin hasn't been done milestone releases in quite a while actually, so no, completely unrelated
[21:19] <wxl> well, long story short, i didn't mean this to be a negative assessment of anyone involved
[21:19] <wxl> people are not the problem, systems are