/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/12/22/#ubuntu-za.txt

Squirmmorning05:44
SquirmI'm so tired05:44
Squirmand so over waking up this early05:45
nuvolario/05:57
nuvolarimorning05:57
nuvolariSquirm: are you working?05:57
Squirmnuvolari: I am05:57
Squirmnuvolari: yourself?05:57
nuvolariyep05:58
nuvolarishould've taken that leave05:58
nuvolariwe'll be like 4 people in the office05:58
SquirmHaha. yeah... We're not allowed to take leave until Christmas, I'm taking the 30th-2nd05:59
SquirmBut there is a ton of people taking leave from the 25th06:00
bduk1Morning everyone06:06
Kiloshi bduk1 and others06:06
Kilosmorning ThatGraemeGuy 06:06
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:10
Kiloshi user____ 06:37
Kilosyou a bot06:37
Kilos!help06:37
Kilosohi gremble 06:38
Kilosand Squirm yy06:39
Kiloshmm...06:48
SquirmHey07:04
ThatGraemeGuy'lo07:27
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy08:05
ThatGraemeGuyg'day08:06
Kiloslo nuvolari gaanit seun?08:09
Kilosmorning magespawn 08:11
magespawngood morning Kilos08:13
grembleGood morning Kilos 08:33
grembleand all the rest08:33
magespawnhi gremble08:45
nuvolarihi oom, dit gaan okei, by die werk08:47
nuvolaridalk moes ek maar verlof gevat het08:47
nuvolarioh hi magespawn, gremble 08:47
Kiloshaha nuvolari spaar jou verlof vir n beter tyd08:49
Kilosof vat net hier en daar n dag om laang naweke te maak08:50
magespawnhi nuvolari 08:53
magespawnyou need a brek every now and then08:53
magespawna break even08:53
Kiloslol08:54
Kilosi have an ugly problem today08:57
Kilosstupid windows08:57
ThatGraemeGuyyes that is an ugly problem08:58
ThatGraemeGuygood luck with that08:58
Kilosyou know ho i use it to use up the beginning of a drive thats not good enough for linux magespawn 08:58
Kiloswell xp is under 2g in size and even though i dont use it it has filled up the 10g partition so boot-repair even complains08:59
Kilosand i have elementary on the rest of the 80g08:59
ThatGraemeGuyyou have a 10GB partition for windows xp?09:00
Kilosya just to use up the start of the drive thats not linux friendly09:00
ThatGraemeGuythat entire statement makes no sense at all, sorry09:00
Kilosi dont understand how it could have filled up the 10g09:01
Kiloshmm...09:01
ThatGraemeGuyi don't understand how a specific part of a hard disk can be unfriendly to linux09:01
Kilosoh easy09:01
Kiloslinux is very sensitive to drives that arent in good nick09:02
ThatGraemeGuyoh my09:02
Kilosas in i cant install only linux09:02
ThatGraemeGuythis looks like one of those conversations i need to step away from before i say something offensive and get a lecture from someone who almost never says a word09:02
Kiloshahaha no man you can tune me09:03
Kilosi have my duck suit on09:03
Kilosthe answer ThatGraemeGuy is to buy a new drive. then there are no probs, but i get a kick out of playing with other peeps discarded drives09:05
Kilosfor years i used a bad 500g with windows on the first 50g then only my ubuntu09:06
ThatGraemeGuyyes I realise that, which is why I said time for me to go silent09:06
Kilosbut this is missing the point09:06
ThatGraemeGuylol09:07
Kilosthe point is how can it fill up 10g if there is only the basic install there originally09:07
Kilosit was under 2g when installed09:07
ThatGraemeGuybecause 10GB is woefully inadequate for a windows xp install09:07
ThatGraemeGuy20 minumum but 40 is probably better for long term09:07
Kilosya for one that gets used yes09:08
ThatGraemeGuywell actually deleting it is better for long term, because windows xp is dead09:08
ThatGraemeGuyyou are like someone that wants to keep playing with fire, then everyone around you says "no, don't do that"09:08
grembleKilos: can't you just leave the bad part empty?09:08
Kilosthis install was only to get drive booting so linux could run on the good 60g09:08
ThatGraemeGuythen you go "it ok i know the risks i like playing with fire"09:08
ThatGraemeGuyand then when your hand is burning up, you start going "ow ow, what can i do to make the pain less?"09:09
ThatGraemeGuyand everyone goes "TAKE YOUR HAND OUT OF THE FIRE!"09:09
Kiloshahaha09:09
gremblerofl09:09
Kilosi love this channel09:10
ThatGraemeGuybut you say "well yes, obviously, but i like playing with fire so i won't do that, what else can make the pain less?"09:10
grembleIs that relating to useing XP or broken HDD's? :P09:10
grembleusing* wow09:10
gremblethat enlgihs09:10
gremble-_-09:10
ThatGraemeGuynothing. nothing can make the pain less. take. your. hand. out. of. the. fire.09:10
ThatGraemeGuyits both09:10
ThatGraemeGuybroken HDDs is the fire09:10
ThatGraemeGuywindows xp is the 25 gallon drum of petrol tossed on top if it09:11
grembleI like the mixig of gallon and petrol in one sentence. Truly a multi-cultural statement :P09:11
Kilosmagespawn: help09:11
Kilosat least we have had a good chuckle for the day09:12
Kilosso everything else will be good too09:12
grembleI have to clean house. I'm not sure about the good09:13
ThatGraemeGuyshould i call it a 94.6353l drum instead?09:13
Kiloslol09:13
grembleYou can call it anything you like09:13
grembleEven samantha09:14
ThatGraemeGuya whole samantha of fire juice09:15
Kiloshurry with the cleanup op gremble 09:15
Kilosclean up09:15
Kilosstill lotsa python to be done09:15
gremblePsh :P09:16
Kilosmake a nice christmas present a working ibid09:16
grembleThat will probably not happen :P09:16
KilosMaaz: coffee on09:16
* Maaz washes some mugs09:16
Kilossigh09:16
grembleMaaz: coffee please09:16
Maazgremble: Alrighty09:16
KilosMaaz: coffee for all09:16
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already09:16
grembleThat one is not in the ibid that I have09:17
Kilosno it is an old release09:17
Kilosnote when it googles it only gives 3 lines then adds another09:18
KilosMaaz: google coffee09:18
MaazKilos: "Coffee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee :: "Coffee Review - The World's Leading Coffee Guide" http://www.coffeereview.com/ :: "Coffee | Starbucks Coffee Company" http://www.starbucks.com/coffee :: "Starbucks Coffee Company" http://www.starbucks.com/ :: "Stumptown Coffee Roasters" http://stumptowncoffee.com/ :: "Blue09:18
MaazBottle Coffee" https://bluebottlecoffee.com/ :: "Light Roast Flavored Coffee - Maple Bacon …09:18
grembleThe results probably have a newline in them09:18
Kilosthe later ones have that fixed09:18
grembleor a CR09:18
Kilosno wait man09:18
grembleHmm?09:19
KilosQA: hi09:19
QAhi there09:19
KilosQA: google coffee09:19
QAKilos: "Coffee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coffee :: "Coffee Review - The World's Leading Coffee Guide" http://www.coffeereview.com/ :: "Coffee | Starbucks Coffee Company" http://www.starbucks.com/coffee :: "Stumptown Coffee Roasters" http://stumptowncoffee.com/ :: "Blue Bottle Coffee" https://bluebottlecoffee.com/ :: "Light Roast Flavored Coffee - Maple Bacon Morning Coffee" http://www.bocajava.com/fresh-roas…09:19
Kilossee09:19
grembleOh ok09:19
Kilosn ow you are working on the same version as QA 09:20
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos and gremble!09:20
KilosMaaz: thanks man09:20
MaazKilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)09:20
KilosQA: leave #ubuntu-za09:21
Kilosnot_found: greetings, didnt see you here, you becoming a major lurker hey10:22
Kiloshi psyatw hows things10:59
psyatwhi Kilos11:00
psyatwit's been a long time, yes11:00
psyatwI've been working here in Dublin, Ireland for a month now11:00
Kiloswhy you took so long to remember us11:00
psyatwI am doing fine now, but I've been sick for most of the time I've been here11:00
psyatwthe thing is I can't really join irc from work11:01
Kilosaw sorry to hear that lad11:01
psyatwbut not my manager is on holidays and there are few people in the office11:01
psyatwnow*11:01
Kilosaha11:01
psyatwhow have you been doing?11:01
Kilosive been good ty11:01
psyatwyeah, I don't even have my own place yet11:01
psyatwit's hard to find any accommodation at all here11:02
Kilosgood luck with everything11:02
psyatwthere is a huge shortage11:02
psyatwthanks11:02
Kilosai! thats not good11:02
psyatwyes11:02
Kiloscharm some pretty irish chick11:02
psyatwyou would think with all the big companies here, that they would build more houses11:02
psyatwbut that isn't really the case11:02
psyatwso people come to work for google, facebook, linkedin, oracle, dropbox etc.11:03
Kiloswhat do the peeps at work say11:03
psyatwbut they have to rent really small and expensive places for them to stay at11:03
Kiloseish11:03
psyatwthe people at work also tell me it's very hard to find anything and a few have offered me help11:03
psyatwbut I am going back to the netherlands for holidays and I'll be back in the new year11:04
psyatwthen I will continue looking for places to stay11:04
psyatwI think I'm charming more foreign chicks11:04
Kiloswell have a good holiday then, will you be online from home?11:04
psyatwyesterday I went out for dinner with a ukrainian friend of mine11:04
psyatwyes, I will be online from home11:04
psyatwthanks11:05
Kilosfind a rich irish chick, there must be some11:05
psyatwif I had my own place here I would stay connected from home too, but that will hopefully happen soon11:05
psyatwbut this ukrainian one works at google, she has the potential to be rich too11:05
psyatwI will follow your advice, though11:06
Kiloswell at least you didnt forget us so keep trying11:06
psyatwthere must be rich irish ones too, I just need to find them11:06
psyatwyeah11:06
Kilosgoogle is your friend11:06
Kiloshehe11:06
psyatwhaha11:06
Kilosare there lost of foreighers there?11:07
Kiloslots11:07
psyatwyes, really a lot11:08
Kiloswow11:08
psyatwat my company maybe 60% of employees11:08
Kiloswow11:08
psyatwand the same is the case at google11:08
psyatwall engineers are foreigners11:09
psyatwit seems that irish people are managers or have other administrative positions11:09
Kilosso what do the irish do then, just employ foreigners?11:10
Kilosdont they work as well11:10
Kilosaha11:10
psyatwyes, they do mostly that11:10
psyatwa lot of irish people leave the country every year because they don't have jobs here11:10
psyatwfor places like canada, the US or australia11:11
Kiloswe are loosing peeps as well11:11
psyatwor they just live off benefits11:11
Kilos2 of our boffs are at silicon valley11:11
psyatwpeople from this channel?11:11
Kilosya11:11
psyatwI might end up there in the future too11:12
psyatwbut who knows11:12
psyatwI'm in the european silicon valley now, so maybe I will get the opportunity to move there in the future11:12
Kiloslol11:13
Kiloshi rio_zenta 13:49
Kiloshometime guys13:52
Kilosor still another hour13:53
Kilos?13:53
grembleWow13:54
grembleIt is so late already13:54
Kilosya today flew13:57
Kilosyou been working too hard13:57
Kilosoh gremble i got one for you to work out13:58
Kilosis true morth still true north same as always or have the poles moved a bit13:58
Kilosmaybe 2 or 3°13:59
Kilosi think 1 is too little13:59
rio_zentaHello14:00
rio_zentaLinux audio issues, sigh14:00
grembleMagnetic north and true north have never been the same14:01
grembleThe earth is tilted 23°14:01
gremblewell twenty three point something14:01
Kilosya but im sure when this house was built 50+ years ago, one side faced north14:03
Kilosso opposite side never saw the sun14:03
grembleI stand corrected, it changes14:03
gremblehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_declination14:03
Kilosnow the sun just creeps into the edge of those windows14:03
Kilosi think all the nuke testing has moved it14:04
Kiloshence the global warming thing14:04
theblazehen_Kilos: nukes don't give off that much power..14:04
Kilossjoe14:04
theblazehen_http://www.livescience.com/32120-can-a-nuclear-blast-alter-earths-rotation.html14:05
grembleI'm not much of a geophysicist, but one hypothesis would be that *never saw the sun* may be incorrect  or that the position of orbit and angle of dip now allows some of the sun to peek through those windows14:06
Kilosty for that info guys14:08
Kiloswb magespawn all fixed now?14:09
Kilostheoretically gremble it shouldnt happen. but late avy sun now gets in here14:10
Kilosmid summer only though14:11
grembleThen your house probably doesn't face directly north14:11
Kilosya, maybe we just have taken notice before14:15
Kilosis magnetic north to the left or right of true north]14:15
Kilos?14:16
grembleI have no idea14:17
theblazehen_Kilos: left IIRC14:17
Kilosty14:17
Kilosafternoon superfly 14:21
superflyhi Kilos14:23
superflyKilos: meeting tonight?14:23
Kilosnope not that i know of14:23
Kilosnext meet 4th tuesday in january14:23
Kilosbut we can have one if you like14:24
Kiloshehe14:24
magespawnKilos i not physically at work today14:28
magespawnam14:29
magespawnworking from home. it version of a holiday14:29
Kilosaha14:34
Kilosoh my is today the 16th14:35
Kilosoh no14:35
Kiloswhat version of holiday magespawn ? private one?14:36
Kilosonly used 10mB data so far today14:38
magespawnas in annual holiday14:40
magespawnfrom work14:40
magespawnas in christmas week, so i took some time off14:41
charlgood afternoon14:42
charlMaaz: coffee on14:42
* Maaz washes some mugs14:42
Kiloshi charl 14:42
charlhi Kilos 14:42
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!14:46
charlMaaz: thanks14:53
Maazcharl: Sure14:53
magespawnhi charl14:59
rio_zentaI think we burn through 1-2GB a day now15:05
Kilossjoe15:08
Kilosrio_zenta: what is your other nick15:08
Kilosthe one i know15:08
Kilosyou arent new here are you?15:08
rio_zentanope15:12
rio_zentaIm trying to fix my audio issues 15:12
rio_zentahardware vendors have no love for linux15:13
Kiloseish15:23
Kilosrio_zenta: explain your prob, maybe someone else has already sorted itr15:26
Kilosit15:26
rio_zentaKilos, The audio is coming out quite soft. And when I plug the headphones into the dual-jack, I can't hear the vocals15:27
Kilosmusic comes through but no vocals?15:27
charlaargh no now there's an ntpd problem15:36
charland you know how many servers run that by default15:36
charlhalf the world's linux boxes getting pwned again15:36
Kilosrio_zenta: you looked at the volume thing in 2 places15:38
Kiloson hides in an equalizer somewhere15:38
rio_zentaI checked Pulse Audio and I checked ALSA mixer15:38
rio_zentaIt's definitely a driver issue, but let me confirm by testing vocals on win715:38
charlhmmm read through the vulnerability docs, doesn't sound *too* serious at least15:39
Kiloshmm...16:26
Kiloswb magespawn 16:51
magespawnty Kilos, i think this laptop is getting to its used up date16:52
Kilosoh my another one16:53
Kiloswhat do you guys do to them things16:54
rio_zentamagespawn, specs?16:57
theblazehen_hi rio_zenta! You new?16:57
rio_zentatheblazehen_, nope, different machine. 16:57
theblazehen_rio_zenta: alright. Normal username?16:57
rio_zentatheblazehen_, guess? :P16:58
Kiloshehe16:58
theblazehen_lemme check your history so far..16:58
theblazehen_superfly?16:58
superfly?16:58
Kilosna16:58
theblazehen_superfly: guessing names16:59
theblazehen_rio_zenta: SDCDev?16:59
rio_zentaI'm in between letters g and Maaz17:00
Kilossomeone with more than one machine there17:00
Kilosgrumbler17:00
theblazehen_inetpro: ?17:00
theblazehen_kbmonkey: ?17:01
rio_zentamy username isnt showing, otherwise I wouldnt have given such a clue :O17:02
rio_zentaoom Kilos how did the loco thing go?17:02
Kilosvery good ty rio_zenta 17:04
Kilossomething with a j17:04
Kilosum17:04
theblazehen_rio_zenta: I give up..17:04
Kiloser17:04
Kiloswe leagal again for 2 years17:04
Kiloslegal as well17:05
rio_zentaSomething with a J is warmer17:05
rio_zentaa capital "J"17:05
Kilosim just trying to remember it17:05
rio_zentaI wonder what happened to that European guy in Namibia17:05
Kilosi dunno17:06
Kilosand bushtech17:06
Kilosjp17:06
Kilosde lange17:06
magespawnrio_zenta: stone age17:07
Kilostheblazehen_: what nicks started with J17:07
theblazehen_Kilos: dunno, I will grep the logs later17:07
Kiloshehe17:07
theblazehen_I don't like regex :(17:07
magespawnrio_zenta: orginally came with win xp 1.7Ghz with 512 ram17:08
Kilosthis is hard work you know17:08
rio_zentaeven older than my old machine. I had 1GB ram, 1.8Ghz17:09
rio_zentaDon't be grepping any logs theblazehen_ . It's Joe_knock17:09
Kilosthere you go17:09
magespawnworks fine most of the time, just has a problem with lots of open browser tabs17:09
Kiloswell done magespawn 17:10
Kilosnow he is Joe_donner17:10
Kilosmagespawn: more ram will help17:10
rio_zentawith 1GB ram not even linux can handle firefox and libreoffice open at the same time17:11
theblazehen_rio_zenta: Ah.. 17:11
magespawnyup that is what i have noticed too17:11
Kiloslinux loves lotsa ram17:11
theblazehen_rio_zenta: swap on PCIe SSD...17:11
rio_zentaheh? theblazehen_ 17:12
rio_zentaoh17:12
theblazehen_rio_zenta: yeah.. Will run them then17:12
rio_zentaI understood that after reading twice17:12
theblazehen_lol17:12
rio_zentaim currently in windows mode, doing backups. forgive my ignorance17:12
Kiloshehe17:12
rio_zentamagespawn, there was a lekker special on i5 laptops recently. a t-series lenovo. I picked 1 up17:13
magespawnKilos runs xubuntu fine, must just contain my tab browsing urges17:13
magespawnrio_zenta: at the moment the budget is too tight to mention17:13
rio_zentaxubuntu 14.04 is kinda crap compared to 12.0417:13
Kiloslighter browser dont help?17:13
rio_zentamagespawn, what is your budget?17:14
magespawnR0.0017:14
magespawnlol17:14
rio_zenta:O17:14
Kilosoi17:14
Kilosworse than me17:14
magespawnthat will change17:14
rio_zentahulle se geld is tight vir everyone, maar as jy gaan by die malls dis weekend, wil almal daar wees17:15
magespawnit is better than a while ago when is was -R some arb amount17:15
Kilosoh my magespawn and new years school costs coming too17:16
Kiloseish17:16
Kilosat times im glad im a ballie17:16
magespawni have those sorts of things covered, that is why 'luxuries' must wait a bit17:17
Kilosaha17:17
rio_zentacant have kids without budgeting for 25 years it seems17:18
Kilosmagespawn: you didnt try opera did you?17:18
magespawni have but not on the laptop17:19
magespawni enjoy firefox sync17:19
Kilosits way lighter than the fox17:19
Kilossjoe remember when we used those cli browasers17:20
Kilosbrowsers17:20
magespawni still do on occasion17:20
Kilossjoe17:20
Kilosive been spoiled17:20
magespawni like the idea of being able to accomplish every thing from a cli17:21
Kilosi still think apt-get and aptitude miss updates17:22
magespawnwhat sort of updates?17:22
Kilosall updates upgrades17:23
Kilosopen synaptic and go through the list and right click reinstall them all and see how much more it downloads17:23
Kilosso somewhere apt-get is missing stuff17:24
magespawndoes that not download the whole program, updates are updates to the installed programs?17:24
Kilosi have everything saved in archives but even kde got another 400m the other day17:25
magespawnby running reinstall, i think, it redownloads the whole program up to date17:25
Kilosi dont know, no one has ever told me what actually happens17:26
Kilosbut if packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ it shouldnt fetch anything more17:27
magespawni am pretty certain about that, but we can check 17:27
Kilosyou will see some fetch nothing17:27
magespawnthere must be a reason17:27
Kilosand especially with unity it works better after doing reinstalls from synaptic17:28
magespawnsuperfly will probably know17:28
superflyme?17:28
Kilosrofl17:28
superflyI know nothing! I'm innocent, I tell you!17:28
Kilosthe dev guys should check it out17:29
magespawnit is all you superfly 17:32
Kiloshahaha17:32
Kilosi wish we had a doctor here17:33
magespawni thought that was superfly?17:34
Kilosn o man medical oke17:35
Kilosthe fly is a pc doc17:35
magespawni see17:35
magespawnwhat other kind do we need here?17:35
Kilosonly for me, i wanna know where to get blood base17:36
Kilosremember ians lund capacity was down to 16% i think it was17:39
Kilosafter a year of monthly innoculation with his own blood his lungs are at 60%17:39
Kilosbut you need blood base to mix with the blood you draw before you can put it back in17:40
Kilosoh my17:43
magespawnlike a cold18:11
Kiloshuh?18:12
magespawni am back like a cold18:12
Kiloslol18:14
Kilosi wish you would apply for ubuntu membership with me magespawn 18:16
Kilosoi that chased him18:17
rio_zentado we get free tshirts as members?18:18
Kiloslol18:19
Kilosi dunno what you get18:19
Kilosi think you get the satisfaction of being e recognised member18:20
rio_zentafree freenode username/affiliation ?18:21
Kilosi have no idea at all. dont know even how many members there  are18:21
Kiloswe have 3 here18:22
Kiloswb magespaw1 18:24
Kiloscell phone now?18:25
Kilosnot_found: has osx got you tied up tight?18:29
rio_zentaeeew OSX18:32
Kiloshehehe18:32
Kiloshe has broken everything else18:32
magespawnright now lets see how long this lasts18:55
Kiloswhat did you do?18:59
magespawnnot really sure, i had mutiple windows open in irssi, i closed the wrong one i think19:04
Kiloslol19:05
Kilosyou getting worse than me19:05
Kiloshey you okes are clever, how do you find advertisements online19:08
Kilosi want to share one with tara19:09
Kilosthe ucounts one with camping gear19:09
magespawnwhat is ucounts?19:14
magespawnoh right the standard bank one about the camping/19:14
Kilosits some stb bank thing19:14
Kiloslike bonus stuff i think19:15
Kiloslike a points system and when you saved enough you buy stuff with them19:15
Kilosbut the advert is hilarious19:15
magespawnwww.youtube.com/watch?v=l-NfmeKkbC8 here is one19:16
Kiloslemme see19:16
magespawnfound it with this search standard bank ucounts advert youtube19:16
Kiloshmm...19:17
Kilosall i need is to have the right name for that one then i think19:18
Kilosi googled lots but they all for other stuff19:18
Kiloshave you noticed magespawn no one needs help anymore19:19
Kiloswhat went wrong19:19
Kilosrio_zenta: did the audio work on win7?19:20
rio_zentaKilos, No. It seems it is crap there as well,  but only when using youtube. on media player the audio seems okay.19:20
Kilosaha19:20
magespawnrio_zenta: bit strange19:21
magespawnnothing Kilos thats one no one needs help19:21
Kilossome gstreamer stuff not installed19:21
rio_zentathe sound is like: You can hear the instruments but the voice is someone singing 10 miles away19:25
Kilosyou have an equaliser installed then you can move things19:25
Kilosand how many songs did you try it with19:26
Kilossometimes audio isnt loud enough anyway19:26
rio_zentaI'm trying it with parole, gmusic and VLC and a variety of music19:26
Kilosor something missing in your browser19:28
Kilosplugins or addons or something19:28
Kilosoh rio_zenta try downloading a song and playing it locally19:34
rio_zentaI'm updating my audio driver19:34
rio_zenta*fingers crossed19:34
superflyucounts is yet another scam19:34
Kilosgood luck19:34
superfly"pay RX per month and save!"19:35
superflyyeah right, pay to save?19:35
Kiloslol, i just like the add superfly 19:35
rio_zentaI did a calculation on all that ebucks/ucounts stuff. technically, the bank is milking people for those ebucks rewards19:35
Kilosof course19:38
Kilosits all about making more money19:39
theblazehen_Truck simulator is fun...19:41
Kiloslol19:45
superflyKilos: have you heard of perceived saving?19:51
Kilosnope superfly 19:51
Kilosvirtual saving hehe19:51
superflyKilos: "Normal price R200, now R150, you save R50!"19:51
Kilosimaginary19:51
superflyKilos: no, you actually spent R150.19:51
Kilosya19:52
Kilosmaking money is serious business19:52
magespawnwhich means you are out R150 and did not save diddly20:02
magespawnand the free saving20:03
magespawnas in buy x and get x free20:03
magespawnnot free but included20:03
Kilosya i see that but didnt know it actually had a name20:04
Kilosperceived saving20:05
Kilosim sure that catches 95 % of peeps20:05
rio_zentasaving is basically a way for you to gauge how big their markups are. clothing stores are great for this20:06
magespawnyup Edgars works on about 400%20:10
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Kilosnight all. sleep tight20:25

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