[00:01] <Bleakwise> grr can't wait until my wife lets me get a WD Black this christmass
[00:01] <Bleakwise> tired of this recyled 4600 rpm drive
[00:02] <ouss> i ve been trying to install Adobe Flash Player, i unpacked it copyed to the personnal file tried the sudo make install, but does nt seem to be working. the only error msg i get is that no file of this type
[00:02] <bekks> !flash | ouss
[00:03] <ouss> thank you lots
[00:04] <BTJustice> ouss: Did you try installing Ubuntu Restricted Extras in the Software Center?
[00:06] <ouss> I tried, i receive a msg : no file found
[00:07] <BTJustice> ouss: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' in terminal.
[00:14] <brainacid> Hye yall
[00:15] <brainacid> Im having this really crazy problem while using midnight commander Internal edit. I cant use the 'n' key... it starts pgdn
[00:15] <brainacid> or deletes crazy
[00:15] <brainacid> im so frustrated
[00:16] <Chuck_Norris> brainacid: sudo apt-get install ranger
[00:17] <xamxam> Hi, I have a folder of fonts and i want to install them all at once, what should i do?
[00:17] <brainacid> Chuck_Norris, ?
[00:17] <Chuck_Norris> brainacid: aptitude show ranger
[00:18] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> xamxam: cp /fonts/folder/* /usr/share/fonts/
[00:18] <brainacid> hmm
[00:19] <xamxam> So, i should just copy paste entire folder into /usr/share/fonts directory?
[00:20] <brainacid> Chuck_Norris, this is a nice manager but .... oh well I guess I will use another editor i suppose...
[00:20] <brainacid> thanks Chuck_Norris
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> brainacid: np:  Description: File manager with an ncurses frontend written in Python Ranger is a free console file manager that gives you greater flexibility and a good overview of your files without having to leave your *nix console. It visualizes the directory tree in two dimensions: the directory hierarchy on one, lists of files on the other, with a preview to the right so you know where you'll be going.
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> The default keys are similar to those of Vim, Emacs and Midnight Commander, though Ranger is easily controllable with just the arrow keys or the mouse.
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> The program is written in Python and uses curses for the text-based user interface.
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> Homepage: http://ranger.nongnu.org/
[00:21] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry
[00:22] <xamxam> CRYy0OKmKpJgc: should i type that command in terminal?
[00:22] <brainacid> Chuck_Norris, its all good I like it but I spent a good time learning mc, but i can learn a new one now
[00:22] <brainacid> :)
[00:22] <brainacid> python very nice
[00:22] <Chuck_Norris> yep
[00:23] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> xamxam: yes, it is a terminal command
[00:24] <EriC^^> brainacid: scite is a cool editor
[00:24] <Chuck_Norris> it got good features like, for example if you do select a video then press <enter> it will call a video players for reprocude that video, in my case "rangers" calls "mplayer"
[00:24] <brainacid> hey EriC^^ yeah I checked it out a while back
[00:24] <brainacid> nice
[00:24] <EriC^^> brainacid: i've not tried it that much though but it has syntax highlighting and it installs with little dependencies, it's perfect for a minimal install or something
[00:25] <xamxam> CRYy0OKmKpJgc: permission denied, i dont think it executed successfully.
[00:26] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> xamxam: run it as root or put 'sudo' in front of it
[00:26] <brainacid> EriC^^, yeah thats what I try to have now, minimal... although I have 1/3 of a TB
[00:26] <kop> I need to run <pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover> just after boot but "conventional" means arn't working . Options please ?
[00:27] <xamxam> ok, it completed successfully, now if i want to use any of these fonts, would those be readily available or will i have to type something which will do this?
[00:28] <umarmukthar> Where to learn all techniques of becoming a pro in Linux
[00:29] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> read a lot of books. If you really want to push yourself, build your own linux
[00:30] <umarmukthar> Downloaded some books. But choosing the right one is a difficult task. !
[00:30] <xamxam> CRYy0OKmKpJgc: should i restart before i use these fonts?
[00:30] <pixelkat> ok so im trying to get minecraft working
[00:30] <pixelkat> any suggestions?
[00:30] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> No one book will make you a pro
[00:30] <slyrus> I'm trying and failing to get proper ownership/permissions when mounting an ext4 volume on a USB drive by UUID
[00:30] <umarmukthar> For Nw i'm reading LInux for dummies..
[00:30] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> xamxam: you can restart if you want, but you should only need to restart the particular application are trying to use.
[00:31] <slyrus> umask, gid, etc... appear to be "unrecognized mount point options"
[00:31] <xamxam> umarmukthar: you should try arch.
[00:32] <ikonia> pixelkat: yo've had suggestions 10 times now
[00:32] <EriC^^> slyrus: what are you trying to achieve?
[00:32] <ikonia> pixelkat: 1.) install a stable version 2.) use the jvm supplied by the distro
[00:32] <TomyLobo> how trustworthy is https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/trusty-server-cloudimg-i386-vagrant-disk1.box?
[00:32] <slyrus> EriC^^: I'm trying to have an external USB drive mount such that all users on the system can access it
[00:32] <TomyLobo> is it an official image or just hosted for a third party by the ubuntu project?
[00:33] <slyrus> I can plug it in and have it automount to /media/<user>/... but I'm trying to make an fstab entry such that it will automount on startup under, e.g., /mnt/stor1
[00:34] <pixelkat> ikonia i really want to keep using 15.04 though
[00:34] <ikonia> pixelkat: then learn how to use it, learn to use the correct channel (as you've been asked multiple times)
[00:35] <pixelkat> i thought this was the correct channel
[00:35] <pixelkat> ubuntu+1
[00:35] <ikonia> this is #ubuntu
[00:35] <pixelkat> whoops wrong channel
[00:36] <Crazy_Atheist> slyrus: /cs info #ubuntu+1
[00:36] <Crazy_Atheist> er
[00:36] <Crazy_Atheist> forgot i had stuff in my input
[00:37] <EriC^^> slyrus: not sure if you add users as an option if they can all read anything
[00:37] <EriC^^> slyrus: try the option "users"
[00:37] <EriC^^> they can all mount and unmount it, not sure about reading files they dont have permissions to though
[00:38] <gioans> #ubuntu
[00:38] <slyrus> I don't want them to mount it, I want it to be mounted at startup
[00:38] <xamxam> Why these persian fonts dont work on ubuntu? i have tried all means but these fonts just appear disconnected on facebook and other websites
[00:38] <slyrus> oh, nvm... it was the permission of the mounted dir...
[00:39] <CRYy0OKmKpJgc> xamxam: web sites are typically coded to use a specific font.
[00:39] <xamxam> they work fine on windows.
[00:40] <xamxam> CRYy0OKmKpJgc: I have no problems when i browse on windows. this problem is related to ubuntu i think.
[00:40] <gioans> #ubuntu
[00:40] <gioans> hello
[00:41] <xamxam> i have tried installing all windows fonts, but i think some of the messed up fonts are still there which is causing this issue. i have read somewhere that they just dont get rendered successfully in ubuntu.
[00:42] <gioans> i am new ubuntu
[00:45] <xamxam> also chrome is not using those fonts, why is that?
[00:46] <HerroWorlds> what kinda ide would popcorn-time use to dev their working guis that look near identical on mac, windows and linux?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> gioans: Welcome, you have a support question ?
[00:48] <HerroWorlds> ^^^^ i dooooooo
[00:49] <gioans> yes i am
[00:49] <gioans> i use ubuntu studio
[00:49] <gioans> i want everybody help me
[00:50] <HerroWorlds> was ur questioion
[00:51] <gioans> what are Academic Support Tools for my version ?
[00:53] <HerroWorlds> http://bit.ly/13thwT2
[00:53] <HerroWorlds> http://bit.ly/13thwT2
[00:53] <HerroWorlds> there is my answer to it
[00:54] <squinty> HerroWorlds:  not acceptable  please leave
[00:55] <HerroWorlds> lol
[00:55] <squinty> gioans:  there is a #ubuntu-studio channel here on freenode
[01:03] <UpTil4Music> BTJustice: Fingers crossed, here goes nothing...
[01:09] <pixelkat> is it safe to upgrade to 14.10?
[01:09] <pixelkat> or should i just go to 14.04
[01:10] <somsip> pixelkat: from what version?
[01:10] <pixelkat> 13.10
[01:10] <daftykins> you said you were running 15.04 a minute ago
[01:10] <daftykins> pixelkat: which is it?
[01:11] <somsip> pixelkat: if you're happy not being on LTS, then maybe you'll be okay with 14.10. If not, 14.04 is the better supported of the two
[01:11] <pixelkat> i had a 13.10 dvd lying around
[01:11] <pixelkat> so i installed that
[01:11] <pixelkat> getting the upgrades now
[01:11] <pixelkat> internet speed is fixed
[01:11] <pixelkat> ill probably be able to run minecraft now
[01:11] <pixelkat> is it safe to go to 14.04?
[01:12] <basichash> should i be able to access root_path from my controllers?
[01:12] <pixelkat> i dont want anything breaking
[01:12] <pixelkat> all i need to do is record video and play minecraft
[01:12] <somsip> pixelkat: 14.04 is safe. Upgrades cannot alway be guaranteed. If you've just installed 13.10 from scratch, maybe best if you format and reinstall
[01:12] <pixelkat> oh and record audio
[01:12] <pixelkat> format and reinstall 14.04?
[01:13] <pixelkat> can i just dist-upgrade?
[01:13] <somsip> pixelkat: yes, and yes.
[01:13] <pixelkat> i love the smell of sriracha
[01:13] <pixelkat> ok ill ust dist-upgrade if it only takes me to 14.04
[01:13] <EriC^^> pixelkat: you need to do-release-upgrade not dist-upgrade
[01:13] <pixelkat> since ubuntuone is no more
[01:13] <pixelkat> ok
[01:14] <pixelkat> sudo apt-get install release-upgrade?
[01:14] <EriC^^> pixelkat: sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:14] <pixelkat> k
[01:15] <daftykins> pixelkat: that was really daft, you should've burnt a DVD/written a flash drive of a supported release.
[01:17] <stale> herro
[01:17] <pixelkat> oh herro
[01:17] <stale> :D
[01:17] <pixelkat> :D
[01:17] <stale> wondering if you can point me to the right person
[01:17] <stale> ><
[01:17] <somsip> !ask | stale
[01:18] <daftykins> you have to ask a question first.
[01:18] <stale> hmm
[01:18] <stale> k
[01:18] <EriC^^> stale: ubottu is our tribe leader
[01:18] <stale> how can i install a graphics card right if my cpu is an apu?
[01:18] <stale> thats my Q
[01:19] <EriC^^> your cpu is an apu?
[01:19] <stale> yes
[01:19] <stale> basically already has a graphics chip in it. i think its crap and i wanna see if a graphics card from an older system is any better
[01:20] <EriC^^> just plug it in i guess
[01:20] <stale> lol
[01:21] <stale> who has experience w amd apu's and discrete gpus?
[01:22] <compdoc> you mean running both in a system?
[01:22] <daftykins> stale: plug a card in. done.
[01:23] <stale> having both. disabling the integrated graphics and using the disrete
[01:23] <daftykins> it's auto
[01:23] <daftykins> just do it.
[01:23] <daftykins> read your motherboard manual for more
[01:23] <daftykins> stale: this question would be better off in ##hardware
[01:23] <stale> after i restarted my system after installing drivers n whatnot, ununtu wanted to start in low graphics mode
[01:23] <stale> so i let it. it didnt get anywhere
[01:24] <stale> thanks dafty. ill head there
[01:24] <EriC^^> stale: lspci
[01:24] <stale> ?
[01:24] <EriC^^> type that and see if it mentions it
[01:24] <isene> Used privoxy for a while as adblocker. Removed it (apt-get remove --purge privoxy) but there seems to be some underlying setting that is not removed. Firefox is set to use "system proxy settings" and won't dispay any pages unless I teel it to use "no proxy". w3m won't display any pages at all. How do I remove this "system proxy settings" that seems to remain after privoxy?
[01:25] <daftykins> what's wrong with setting 'no proxy' ?
[01:26] <isene> In firefox; No problem - but for other browsers that insist on using "system proxy settings", it cripples the browsers  like w3m and luakit. So, I want to fix this underlying issue
[01:28] <pixelkat> minecraft woot
[01:28] <pixelkat> cant wait to get it up and running
[01:28] <isene> Where are these systemwide proxy settings hidden?
[01:28] <pixelkat> has anyone used that installer from webupd8?
[01:28] <pixelkat> i cant get it working. no where to download the file
[01:29] <pixelkat> let me show you what im talking about maybe someone can help
[01:29] <pixelkat> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052084
[01:29] <EriC^^> pixelkat: they are hidden in settings > network
[01:29] <ausjke> could not find uuid_clear, I did have util-linux on ubuntu 12.04 which is supposedly having uuid_clear?
[01:30] <EriC^^> sorry, isene ^^
[01:30] <upsell5> hi, i’m reading this tutorial and it say to save a file in my ~/bin
[01:30] <upsell5> but I don’t have a
[01:30] <stale> ##hardware wont let me talk in there
[01:30] <EriC^^> upsell5: mkdir ~/bin
[01:30] <upsell5> ~/bin
[01:31] <Nidhoggr> Hi, anyone interested in doing a translation from Vietnamese to English for me? Tried using google.translate, but that just got weird
[01:31] <upsell5> EriC^^: is that a convention that whatever is in ~/bin will be in my path?
[01:31] <isene> EriC^^: I don't use unity or gnome, where do I get hold of these settings from the terminal?
[01:31] <EriC^^> upsell5: yup
[01:31] <upsell5> EriC^^: so I don’t have to set any permissions on it?
[01:31] <upsell5> what is this convention   ./some-file arg1
[01:31] <upsell5> the dot
[01:31] <upsell5> it runs a sh file?
[01:32] <EriC^^> upsell5: the dir? nope .profile will handle adding it to the path
[01:32] <EriC^^> upsell5: that's to say look in the current directory for ....
[01:32] <k1mmyyy_> hi guys, i reset my MBR using boot-repair, so now the grub menu with my different OS choices doesn't appear at boot, how can i get it to again? if i look in gparted only my windows partition has the boot flag, do i just need to set my ubuntu boot partition to have the boot flag or do somethnig more?
[01:32] <daftykins> EriC^^: i took the Windows portion with k1mmyyy_ to PM and booted media to chkdsk the volumes, apparently it completed but it's still bust - so i gave up, i believe k1mmyyy_ wants to restore GRUB to still be able to boot Ubuntu now :)
[01:33] <upsell5> EriC^^: i see it online in tutorials, to run an .sh file
[01:33] <upsell5> ok
[01:33] <EriC^^> daftykins: oh ok :)
[01:33] <k1mmyyy_> haha thanks daftykins
[01:33] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: should be pretty simple right?
[01:33] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: yeah
[01:33] <k1mmyyy_> i'm in the liveUSB now
[01:33] <isene> EriC^^: I don't use unity or gnome, where do I get hold of these settings from the terminal?
[01:33] <EriC^^> ok sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[01:35] <isene> Seems installing privoxy has damaged my basic network settings somehow, somewhere
[01:35] <EriC^^> isene: not sure if you have this, try gsettings list-recursively | grep proxy
[01:36] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/9592765
[01:36] <isene> EriC^^: I do - many lines... what do I look for?
[01:37] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[01:37] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: yeah ok?
[01:37] <EriC^^> isene: ill try to modify mine and see which one changes
[01:38] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot
[01:38] <k1mmyyy_> yep
[01:38] <isene> EriC^^: wow, great Thanks.
[01:38] <EriC^^> isene: org.gnome.system.proxy.http host 'bla'
[01:39] <EriC^^> those ones change
[01:39] <isene> EriC^^: Mine says org.gnome.system.proxy.http host ''
[01:39] <EriC^^> isene: you also have to set this org.gnome.system.proxy mode 'manual'
[01:40] <EriC^^> isene: gsettings set org.gnome.system.proxy mode manual
[01:40] <EriC^^> isene: that's how you set it to manual, you can do the same for other ones to set the host and other stuff
[01:40] <isene> EriC^^: Mine: org.gnome.system.proxy mode 'none'
[01:41] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: what next?
[01:41] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:42] <pixelkat> ok so i clicked to make a program executable but it still opens with gedit
[01:42] <pixelkat> what do?
[01:43] <EriC^^> pixelkat: it's not really recommended
[01:43] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: yep, what next?
[01:43] <EriC^^> pixelkat: you can install something that opens a terminal with the directory you're in as the pwd
[01:43] <EriC^^> pixelkat: like right click open terminal here
[01:43] <isene> EriC^^: Ok, I set it to manual. Now as an interesting side note; I haven't used w3m since before I installed and unistalled privoxy. In the meantime, w3m has set "Use proxy" to 'yes' and "URL of http proxy host" to "127.0.0.1:8118" (the privoxy)
[01:44] <EriC^^> pixelkat: then ./script.sh
[01:44] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: sudo chroot /mnt
[01:44] <isene> EriC^^: After the setting to 'manual'... reboot?
[01:45] <EriC^^> *cwd
[01:45] <EriC^^> isene: no idea i've never used a proxy
[01:45] <EriC^^> :)
[01:45] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: okay, next?
[01:45] <isene> EriC^^: and you shouldn't ;-P
[01:45] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[01:46] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: installation finished, no error...anything else?
[01:47] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: yes, update-grub
[01:47] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: yay! anything else?
[01:48] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: was windows picked up?
[01:48] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: yep, it was
[01:48] <daftykins> it needed a reinstall
[01:48] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[01:48] <k1mmyyy_> "found windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1 and 2"
[01:48] <k1mmyyy_> daftykins: i haven't reinstalled it yet
[01:48] <daftykins> yeah i know
[01:48] <k1mmyyy_> sweet, reboot now?
[01:49] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: yeah
[01:49] <daftykins> dude i don't get how unable to follow convo you are XD
[01:49] <k1mmyyy_> EriC^^: i don't have to set any boot flags or anything?
[01:49] <EriC^^> k1mmyyy_: no grub is now in your mbr
[01:49] <EriC^^> lol
[01:49] <k1mmyyy_> sweeeeeeeeet
[01:49] <k1mmyyy_> thank you so much
[01:49] <EriC^^> no problem
[01:50] <TheBlackRussian> I got myself in a messy situation. I formatted my hard drives containing Ubuntu. When i boot up my computer instead of booting to Windows Vista it goes straight to Grub rescue. In order to bypass this i must diable my hard drive however that means i can delete ubuntu
[01:51] <BlueProtoman> Help!  I can't push to a remote git repo on Ubuntu 14.10!  I get this error: git-remote-https: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libhogweed.so.2: undefined symbol: __gmpn_cnd_add_n  I was referred to this Debian thread https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=753423 but I fear I may make things worse if I apply its advice.  What do I do?
[01:52] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: you lost me at however
[01:52] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: you have multiple hard drives?
[01:52] <TheBlackRussian> yes
[01:52] <EriC^^> ok the one with ubuntu was erased, and grub now shows?
[01:53] <TheBlackRussian> it says grub rescue
[01:53] <TheBlackRussian> when i turn my computer on
[01:53] <EriC^^> set the bios to boot the other one with windows
[01:54] <TheBlackRussian> i had to disable my hard drive in order to boot into windows vista because i couldnt bypass it
[01:54] <EriC^^> the mbr might still be in tact
[01:54] <isene> EriC^^: The proxy issue runs deeper yet - newsbeuter has stopped loading rss feeds since I removed privoxy :-(
[01:54] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: ok, so what's the problem?
[01:54] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: ah, no need to disable it, you can set it later in the boot order
[01:55] <TheBlackRussian> what do you mean eric
[01:55] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: press delete or esc when the pc boots, you'll get a bios screen, go to boot options, and change the boot order to have the drive with windows come before the other drive
[01:56] <TheBlackRussian> wouldnt that boot ubuntu as well?
[01:56] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: you might not get a bios screen with esc, if you get a menu try to see if theres bios setup or something and press that
[01:56] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: no, it will boot what it finds first and won't continue
[01:56] <TheBlackRussian> and from there on i can remove ubuntu without causing any problems?
[01:57] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: ubuntu is removed already, grub is still in the mbr
[01:57] <BTJustice> I seem to have lost sound in Ubuntu.  I have no audio icon and Sound Settings is missing.  What can I do to fix it?
[01:57] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: if you formatted the partitions ubuntu is gone
[01:57] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: but you need to delete the partitions and create ntfs partitions instead to use them with windows
[01:58] <TheBlackRussian> do i need to run easybcd?
[01:58] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: no, you can do this with diskpart in windows
[01:58] <EriC^^> not sure if disk management in the control panel can do it too, it might
[01:58] <TheBlackRussian> i already created a new hard drive however grub is still in it
[01:59] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: yes it's in the mbr ( the first 512 bytes )
[01:59] <EriC^^> it's what the bios looks at that's all, it wont affect anything else
[01:59] <TheBlackRussian> can i delete that mbr
[01:59] <basichash> If i have an articles model and a has_and_belongs_to_many relationship between the two models, how do I add a category to an article in a form?
[01:59] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: lol, ok
[02:00] <basichash> i.e. what name would the checkbox have?
[02:00] <TheBlackRussian> you know what, i just try what you said. If nothing works i will return
[02:00] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: boot a live usb and type dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1
[02:00] <EriC^^> TheBlackRussian: ok, good, nevermind the dd command
[02:01] <TheBlackRussian> be right back
[02:01] <EriC^^> ok
[02:02] <BTJustice> I seem to have lost sound in Ubuntu.  I have no audio icon and Sound Settings is missing.  What can I do to fix it?
[02:03] <OerHeks> BTJustice, start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[02:05] <BTJustice> OerHeks:  I am going through that now.  My sound card is present.
[02:06] <jdfskitz> Hello, is there anybody online here that may be able to assist me
[02:06] <somsip> !ask  | jdfskitz
[02:08] <djkalypso> im new to using byobu and for some reason vertical split doesn't work for me when i press ctrl f2 but horizontal split works fine when i press shift f2 can anyone help?
[02:09] <jdfskitz> I installed Xubuntu on my Lenovo Ideapad y500 and the only way I can get into the OS, the one I have set up is to A.) set my boot option to my Atheros Network, which doesn't bother me.. but gets me to the grub, B.) When I get to the grub menu I have to go through advanced options and choose the Repair option(I don't remember what it's called) and then choose Resume in order to make it to the OS | If I choose to boot the OS normally without
[02:09] <jdfskitz> doing these steps I get a blank screen as well as if I don't go through the repair option in the advanced options menu.
[02:10] <djkalypso> when i press ctrl f2 in byobu it splits the screen vertically but it blank and can't switch to it or type anything into it.
[02:11] <somsip> !nomodeset | jdfskitz
[02:12] <jdfskitz> so in other words, it's not the grub's fault?
[02:13] <somsip> jdfskitz: in other words, there is a very common fix which works often and is worth trying before you spend time looking for other sources for the problem
[02:17] <jdfskitz> Thank you, I will give it a shot
[02:18] <djkalypso> no one uses byobu terminal?
[02:18] <BTJustice> Damn.  The Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting page yielded no results.
[02:19] <redban> chrome keeps asking me to sign in with my account time after time
[02:19] <jdfskitz> just wanted to say that it worked miracles and I'm in, I just need to get my video drivers again, Thank you :)
[02:19] <somsip> jdfskitz: np
[02:20] <redban> i get this error: https://imgur.com/BJ1fYZq
[02:20] <daftykins> redban: yep so check profile permissions or create a new profile
[02:20] <daftykins> that error even tells you!
[02:21] <jdfskitz> maybe they need to know how :)
[02:21] <redban> I sign up with my correct email and password, but still get it
[02:21] <daftykins> yeah but the question would be phrase as such if so.
[02:21] <daftykins> jdfskitz: i've been here quite a few years, i get how it works :P
[02:22] <daftykins> redban: entering an account has nothing to do with your *chrome profile* being writable or not.
[02:23] <jdfskitz> well again! Thank you, made my life so much easier. I'm off. Goodbye :)
[02:23] <redban> I don't understand, googlr profile?
[02:23] <daftykins> redban: browsers use profiles to manage user's data.
[02:23] <daftykins> redban: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299089/profile-error-when-launching-google-chrome
[02:24] <redban> thanks daftykins
[02:27] <BTJustice> I seem to have lost sound in Ubuntu.  I have no audio icon and Sound Settings is missing.  What can I do to fix it?
[02:27] <daftykins> reboot and test the guest session
[02:28] <bazhang> check that nothing is muted in alsamixer, try pavucontrol/padevchooser BTJustice
[02:28] <BTJustice> alsamixer in terminal shows the card and volume sliders
[02:28] <bazhang> what is pcm set to
[02:29] <BTJustice> 99<>99
[02:29] <bazhang> dial it down to 80
[02:29] <BTJustice> ok
[02:29] <BTJustice> 80<>80
[02:30] <BTJustice> Still no sound :(
[02:31] <bazhang> what about using pavucontrol
[02:32] <BTJustice> bazhang:  It's not installed.
[02:33] <daftykins> install it...
[02:35] <bazhang> BTJustice, install it, also check padevchooser
[02:35] <kasad> guys, how ubuntu behaves with that option I remember, to install it in windows, for people who want to try it out
[02:35] <kasad> I am doing favour to friend, he wants to outfit his old laptop (core 2 duo, 2 gig ram) for his mother
[02:35] <bazhang> kasad avoid wubi
[02:35] <Darknet> kasad just put the dvd in, and reboot. then use the demo.
[02:35] <daftykins> kasad: never use WUBI, it's the devil incarnate in software.
[02:35] <kasad> she basically needs, skype/web surfing (fb and youtube specifically) and that's about it
[02:35] <bazhang> kasad either vm or dual boot, never wubi
[02:35] <Darknet> ^
[02:35] <Darknet> never wubi
[02:36] <kasad> yeah, I don't like the idea of wubi either
[02:36] <daftykins> flash with ubuntu will be a hassle if you provide that
[02:36] <bazhang> vbox it then kasad
[02:36] <daftykins> might want to put chrome on with pepperflash
[02:36] <kasad> but I am not sure if she will like it
[02:36] <kasad> what's the easiset way to virtualize their current machine?
[02:36] <bazhang> vbox
[02:36] <BTJustice> bazhang:  indicator-sound-gtk2 appears to be the culprit.
[02:37] <BTJustice> http://pastebin.com/ibvxwHRg
[02:37] <kasad> do I have to run it from other machine or make a boot cd, or it will behave nicely even tho it's virtualizing system drive?
[02:37] <bazhang> kasad point vbox to the iso, load it and go
[02:37] <kasad> wait, now you lost me
[02:38] <bazhang> kasad install virtualbox
[02:38] <kasad> I am talking about virtualizing their existing winxp
[02:38] <bazhang> kasad then get the ubuntu iso
[02:38] <daftykins> XP should not be used at all, let alone VM'd
[02:38] <daftykins> it is a dead OS, let it die.
[02:38] <bazhang> kasad or whatever iso
[02:38] <kasad> yeah  but they have some stuff on it
[02:38] <daftykins> so take the data off
[02:38] <kasad> and i'd hate to go trough everything
[02:38] <kasad> it's in total chaos
[02:38] <daftykins> oh come on, XP has my documents... back that up :)
[02:38] <bazhang> kasad try in #vbox
[02:39] <kasad> so virtualizing would be great option, now I did manage to virtualize win7 once without problems
[02:39] <BTJustice> kasad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcw25WleOs4
[02:39] <kasad> I can't remember the name of software I used, I think it was something like disk2vhd
[02:39] <bazhang> kasad yes that would do
[02:39] <kasad> then I converted vhd
[02:39] <kasad> but I can't remember the name of software for the life of me
[02:40] <kasad> anyhow, I'll figure it out
[02:40] <kasad> which flavour of ubuntu do you recommend
[02:40] <Darknet> latest
[02:40] <kasad> for core 2 duo with 2 gig of ram
[02:40] <kasad> so no lubuntu or similar
[02:40] <daftykins> xubuntu
[02:40] <Darknet> nah
[02:40] <kasad> idea is to run as fast as possible
[02:40] <Darknet> 12.04 maybe
[02:40] <Darknet> puppy linux is the smallest
[02:40] <daftykins> no, 14.04.1 xubuntu
[02:40] <kasad> that was the requirement from friend
[02:40] <Darknet> this is gonna be fast
[02:41] <BTJustice> kasad:  Ubuntu MATE 14.04.1 LTS
[02:41] <daftykins> ^ MATE is also a good idea
[02:41] <kasad> gotcha
[02:41] <daftykins> just see what your user finds easiest to work with
[02:42] <kasad> I remember trying xubuntu and it looked really poor, (it was fast tho) but that was like 7 years ago, maybe 6
[02:42] <BTJustice> https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[02:42] <BTJustice> But get 14.04.1 LTS not 14.10
[02:42] <kasad> well my user will be my friends mother who has no clue
[02:42] <kasad> she will literally have 3 icons on desktop
[02:42] <daftykins> then yeah you ought to try these things from a flash drive rather than commit to something ahead of time
[02:43] <daftykins> or you should provide a supported windows version so that they're not out of their depth
[02:43] <daftykins> forcing unknowning users to Linux is not always wise
[02:43] <fedorafan> BTJustice is it running fine now
[02:43] <kasad> skype, chromium shorctucts to youtube and facebook so she doesn't have to open chromium then type the address
[02:43] <fedorafan> audio
[02:43] <kasad> thing is her son (my friend) is kinda in a bind
[02:43] <daftykins> that's what bookmarks are for.
[02:43] <BTJustice> fedorafan:  I Y'd the selection I linked to pastebin earlier.  It's isntalling.
[02:43] <daftykins> kasad: how's that?
[02:43] <fedorafan> allright
[02:43] <kasad> he is great guy, and work(ed) as a cop, only guy in my country to complete FBI training
[02:43] <kasad> and he was invited by FBI
[02:44] <daftykins> kasad: ok but how does that possibly relate to running Linux...
[02:44] <kasad> not selected by officials in my country, but trough american embassy
[02:44] <BTJustice> fedorafan:  I'd love to try Fedora sometime, but I wish they did LTS versions like Ubuntu does.
[02:44] <fedorafan> hmm
[02:44] <fedorafan> what is LTS
[02:44] <kasad> and now, since he was meant to be advanced from his position as chief of police station in the city of Kotor to basicaly 2nd guy in hwole police (and fight corruption)
[02:44] <BTJustice> Long Term Support.
[02:44] <wafflej0ck> !lts | fedorafan
[02:44] <somsip> !lts | fedorafan
[02:44] <fedorafan> ahhh thanks
[02:45] <BTJustice> Current 14.04.1 LTS of Ubuntu is until 2019.
[02:45] <kasad> dirty politicans attacket him and currently are trying to smear his name in media
[02:45] <somsip> !ot | kasad (enough now)
[02:45] <fedorafan> wow thats cool
[02:45] <kasad> so whole setup is for his mother to be able to monitor what is going on
[02:45] <daftykins> kasad: sorry but this is completely irrelevant to this channel.
[02:45] <kasad> with false accusation against him
[02:45] <kasad> well it's not, I just said what is the purpose of build
[02:46] <BTJustice> Alright the sudo install is done.  Going to reboot.  I got my fingers crossed audio works again.  BRB.
[02:46] <somsip> kasad: off topic - stick to the subject or the ops will get involved
[02:46] <daftykins> we don't need their life history, kasad.
[02:46] <fedorafan> hope so too
[02:46] <kasad> I tend to get into details too much, I apologise
[02:46] <xamxam> I have figured out whats messing with my fonts, i have installed fonts but the permission it has is of root, which means i cant use them unless i am using an application as root
[02:47] <xamxam> how can i use them normally? please help
[02:47] <kasad> anyhow,  core 2 duo, 2 gig ram laptop, for worried non-tech-savvy mother so she can monitor few news sites, fb support site and yt (and use skype)
[02:47] <kasad> verdict is  https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[02:47] <daftykins> put a bunch of ISOs on a flash drive with YUMI on Windows, then you can try them all.
[02:47] <kasad> amirite?
[02:47] <daftykins> simple.
[02:47] <xamxam> i need to change rights of those fonts
[02:48] <SchrodingersScat> !permissions | xamxam
[02:48] <kasad> daftykins: was yumi suggestion ment for me?
[02:48] <daftykins> yes
[02:48] <daftykins> it allows a few different ISOs to be loaded up on the same flash drive
[02:49] <kasad> daftykins: I am also kinda in a hurry, I am going on a trip tomorrow, well already today, I have bus in the evening, so I need to finish this in say next 8-9 hours, so no time to experiment, I need to give him laptop today before I am gone (i will be back in 3-4 days but he needs it now)
[02:49] <BTJustice> That kind of worked.  I still have no audio, but hte icon is back.  It is grayed out with an X to the right of it.
[02:49] <kasad> that's why I came to ask, instead of testing distro by distro, and since I do use and love ubuntu (only I don't really use gui) thought you guys would give me best advice
[02:49] <daftykins> kasad: rushing a laptop reinstall doesn't seem wise.
[02:50] <BTJustice> kasad:  Ubuntu MATE is pretty damn good.  You'll like it.
[02:50] <kasad> agree, but I need to cook something for them, I can reinstall and try out different distros when I am back from hospital
[02:50] <kasad> ubuntu mate it is
[02:50] <kasad> thanks guys
[02:50] <xamxam> is there graphical method to do this thing? these file rights changing process seems rather complex
[02:51] <BTJustice> yw
[02:51] <kasad> <3
[02:51] <daftykins> xamxam: sure if you want to go one by one :P
[02:51] <daftykins> actually no that'd be too tedious to set up
[02:51] <daftykins> just run the commands.
[02:54] <xamxam> there is this sudo nautilus method, but its showing some error: " Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing."
[02:55] <OerHeks> xamxam, never run a gui-program with sudo, use gksudo
[02:56] <xamxam> ok. noted.
[02:59] <xamxam> well that worked :) Thank you!
[03:00] <OerHeks> xamxam, have fun
[03:04] <anonymousx> Anyone running ubuntu on an ssd?
[03:04] <tuxakadjseb> yes
[03:04] <nmatrix9> Yep
[03:04] <daftykins> yep
[03:04] <anonymousx> worth it?
[03:04] <cfhowlett> anonymousx, no polls please
[03:04] <nmatrix9> Though the display is fubar on my box
[03:04] <daftykins> SSDs are worth using everywhere, just know you'll never be able to go back after you've had a decent one
[03:05] <nmatrix9> Agreed
[03:05] <nmatrix9> Hell of lot lighter too
[03:05] <anonymousx> why do you guys run ubuntu? morality? free? customization?
[03:06]  * OerHeks can't afford windows 10
[03:06] <cfhowlett> anonymousx, this is a great topic .... for #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <daftykins> it's great for my HTPC. i don't believe in desktop Linux.
[03:07] <anonymousx> cfhowlett: then what is this for?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> !ot | anonymousx
[03:08] <nmatrix9> I just reinstalled ubuntu on a ssd, when I reboot half the monitor looks like scrambled static,  thats the best way I could describe it.  Anyone experience that before?
[03:09] <daftykins> over HDMI?
[03:09] <BTJustice> Anyone know how to reinstall sound settings?
[03:11] <Bashing-om> nmatrix9: If you boot "rcovery" from grub, is the display any better ? ( maybe it us a grahics driver issue ) .
[03:13] <nmatrix9> Bashing-om trying that now
[03:19] <t0ntin> Hi, all. My screen shuts off completely when I try to play a youtube video using Chrome. I just went to the chrome extensions page using firefox and it shut off again. Anybody know why this is happening?
[03:20] <daftykins> define "shut off"
[03:21] <t0ntin> the screen loses power
[03:22] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, get an external monitor and test the YT again.  I have difficulty believing a YT video triggers an actual shutdown ... but I could be wrong
[03:23] <OerHeks> videocard heat issue?
[03:23] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, could be ... but INSTANT off??
[03:23] <t0ntin> cfhowlett: I don't have one :( There is no shutdown. The computer still runs when it happens.
[03:24] <daftykins> could be a bad driver
[03:24] <daftykins> t0ntin: do you hear the audio?
[03:24] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, do you have any non-internet videos to test with?
[03:25] <t0ntin> daftykins: yes, let's say i'm listening to an mp3 and I go to youtube. The screen shuts off and I still hear the mp3.
[03:26] <t0ntin> It does not happen on youtube using firefox, but it has happened in other web sites.
[03:26] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, and ONLY on internet videos??
[03:28] <t0ntin> no, i think it has something to do with flash because I went into the chrome extensions page and it happened. I just went to the main tumblr page. I was scrolling down to see what tumblr was about and close to the end of their slide show, it happened.
[03:28] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, could very well be flash related.  adobe no longer supports linux flash so either use html5 or find a F/Loss replacement.  flash is on its way out.
[03:29] <daftykins> try a clean browser profile
[03:29] <t0ntin> cfhowlett: so how would I use html5?
[03:30] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, you can select html5 on YT videos ... see their site
[03:30] <t0ntin> daftykins, how do I do that?
[03:30] <t0ntin> cfhowlett: oh cool, thanks.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> t0ntin, happy2help
[03:32] <daftykins> t0ntin: pass.
[03:32] <daftykins> google will bring up chrome profile management i'm sure
[03:42] <Jackster> I have a MAAS server in a ESXi host. I am adding a node, in the power option what do I put? Ty
[03:44] <daftykins> #ubuntu-server might be best if you don't get an answer
[03:45] <Jackster> found #maas :)
[04:05] <lagbox> anything i can look into for why any time i change volume (media buttons or panel) my audio starts locking up and skipping for like 2 seconds ?
[04:06] <lagbox> just started today
[04:08] <ridwan__> haloo
[04:09] <daftykins> hi
[04:18] <EiEiOhh> can anyone offer a link for a noob to install a driver?
[04:18] <daftykins> driver for what?
[04:19] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, specify the question, Please.
[04:19] <Bashing-om> EiEiOhh: Is there an over-riding reason the drivers available in the repository are not suitable ?
[04:19] <EiEiOhh> Ceton InfiniTV 6 ETH its a TV Tuner
[04:20] <Aaron> lol,
[04:20] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, look for the driver in google, and see if they support Linux
[04:21] <EiEiOhh> I ran make  make install  modprobe but I get  Can't read private key
[04:22] <EiEiOhh> I found linux drivers on the Ceton website
[04:22] <Aaron> !tell EiEiOhh about pastebin
[04:22] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, pastebin the error and the dmesg
[04:23] <mreutman> Hey, so I'm just getting my feet wet with networking by running my own private home server, I have a quick security question though that my google-fu hasn't solved yet..
[04:23] <EiEiOhh> sorry 'bout that
[04:24] <mreutman> I generated a ssh key on my laptop, to securely  access my home server
[04:24] <Aaron> mreutman, just ask
[04:24] <mreutman> but what is to stop someone from generating their own key and then pushing it onto the server
[04:24] <mreutman> outside of the server's password?
[04:24] <mreutman> seems vulnerable to brute force attacks
[04:24] <daftykins> mreutman: are you saying you're disabling password auth and using key auth alone for SSH?
[04:25] <Aaron> mreutman, they won't crack it unless they know how to; and what are the odds that people are even interesting on your server?
[04:25] <Aaron> mreutman, then  test it your self;
[04:25] <mreutman> not likely, just curious however
[04:25] <daftykins> *interested in your server
[04:25] <mreutman> I'm firing up a vm now to test
[04:25] <Aaron> test ahead ;)
[04:25] <mreutman> but I thought I would ask and see if any of you gurus had some insight
[04:26] <Aaron> mreutman, try asking in #networking ;)
[04:26] <Aaron> mreutman, or google kali linux ;)
[04:26] <daftykins> mreutman: just follow standard sensible practices, don't use SSH on the default port... use strong passwords or key auth, don't allow root access (shouldn't be possible anyway since it's ubuntu with no root password) etc.
[04:26] <mreutman> ahhh, thanks for the direction Aaron
[04:26] <mreutman> I may poke my nose over there
[04:26] <mreutman> :^)
[04:26] <Aaron> that's for pen testers
[04:26] <Aaron> ;)
[04:27] <elc> Hi everyone
[04:27] <Aaron> hello elc
[04:28] <leonic> hello
[04:28] <leonic> i have problems whit flash  it work but crash every now and then
[04:29] <leonic> and it does not charges the vidoes tumbails
[04:29] <Aaron> leonic, open the firefox, in the terminal; and you'll see the Debug information when flash crashes and why it does
[04:30] <EiEiOhh> can I post a link to my form topic here? it has some details of what Ive tried
[04:30] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, just pastebin the output of dmesg
[04:30] <Aaron> and that yes you may paste the link for the pastebin
[04:30] <Aaron> *that's
[04:31] <gshmu> I think some Chinese mirror should me moved!!!  Under 14.10, using softwallCenter many softwale can't be install
[04:32] <leonic> process:9327): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed
[04:32] <leonic> ^C[Child 9365] WARNING: pipe error (3): Connection reset by peer: file /build/buildd/firefox-31.0+build1/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 450
[04:32] <leonic> ###!!! [Child][MessageChannel::SendAndWait] Error: Channel error: cannot send/recv
[04:32] <Aaron> !tell leonic about flood
[04:34] <Aaron> leonic, that might be a bug, so you have to pastebin the output from the terminal;
[04:34] <EiEiOhh> does dmsg keep a running log or does it clear itself out?
[04:34] <mreutman> circular buffer
[04:34] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, go to cd /var/log
[04:34] <mreutman> it overwrites itself after it hits the max log
[04:34] <Aaron> there are all the logs, from the System it self
[04:38] <EiEiOhh> yike.. Im not sure which of these I need to post
[04:40] <mac_> hy all
[04:40] <kostkon> mac_, hi
[04:40] <mac_> new 14.4 was sucsses!
[04:41] <Aaron> thanks mac_
[04:41] <Blackhornet> Hi all, it's good to see Ubuntu still likes me. I have a fresh install and have been trying to install ubuntu restricted extras but I am getting this error - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593562/
[04:41] <daftykins> thanks for what?
[04:41] <Aaron> for the success for, 14.4 ;)
[04:42] <daftykins> Blackhornet: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:42] <daftykins> it thinks you mean 3 different packages.
[04:42] <mac_> just a bit more tweaks.. and will be great os.. why does terminal window can't display (see through) is a mistery.. but this is not why i am here.. i am here because i installed Assault cube.. and.. no server list is updated.. impossible to play online?
[04:42] <daftykins> i don't know if that's even the current way for things.
[04:43] <Anoniem4l> greetings, i am trying to install a graphics driver (AMD) on a kubuntu. it can't find the kernel headers (specifically /usr/modules/3.13.0-43-generic/build/include/linux/version.h). I tried to find that file manually by executing: # locate version.h | grep 3.13.0; and i don't see anything related.
[04:44] <Anoniem4l> moreover, I searched for the kernel headers in the repo and it says i got it installed
[04:44] <Aaron> Anoniem4l, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:44] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Ah, silly me - Sure does make sense now :D
[04:44] <Aaron> and you'll be fine,
[04:44] <Anoniem4l> Aaron: done, 5 minutes ago.
[04:45] <Anoniem4l> It's fully up-to-date, both dist-upgrade and upgrade wise.
[04:45] <Aaron> Anoniem4l, try asking in #kubuntu
[04:45] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: are you sure you have the right amd driver?
[04:45] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: Yup.
[04:45] <Aaron> !kubuntu
[04:45] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: i doubt
[04:46] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: one moment, let me snapshot
[04:47] <Blackhornet> daftykins: But there still is a problem here, this is the output of: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras (http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593577/)
[04:47] <Aaron> Blackhornet, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <daftykins> Blackhornet: no you have a DNS issue :)
[04:47] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/N0UerEJ.png
[04:47] <Aaron> and put a # infront of rr http://zw.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe
[04:48] <kostkon> Blackhornet, you could also open your updater, click on Settings and then select a different server
[04:49] <Aaron> try also; apt-get update --fix-missing
[04:49] <daftykins> Aaron: with my respect it may be better to start simple. those mirrors are fine here
[04:49] <daftykins> Blackhornet: are you typing from the system you're running this on?
[04:49] <Aaron> daftykins, that's fine ;) boss no problem and thank you for the tip ;)
[04:50] <mac_> :-D
[04:50] <mac_> reading news.. hacker attacked again..
[04:50] <Blackhornet> daftykins: I'll be back, I'm going to restart my connection.
[04:50] <mac_> :-S
[04:50] <leonic> it not failinn right now is there  a place or a commant i can use
[04:50] <Aaron> mac_, is like saying a Programmer with out a Bug, is impossible ;)
[04:50] <daftykins> mac_: chat is ok in #ubuntu-offtopic but it's support only in here
[04:51] <leonic> to test flash _
[04:51] <mac_> lol.. hackers allways ataks.. why the news??
[04:51] <kostkon> leonic, youtube?
[04:51] <daftykins> mac_: take it to the other channel please.
[04:51] <mac_> sorry.. i am asking and waiting.. sorry..
[04:52] <mac_> didn't want to fall asleep
[04:52] <daftykins> you can keep the support here and chat the rubbish over there :)
[04:52] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: that's kind of old, i think it's at 14 right now
[04:52] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: try to download the latest one that supports your card
[04:52] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: I saw a 16 in the repo as well
[04:53] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: but, shouldn't there be a version.h kernel header?
[04:53] <Anoniem4l> for my own version, so be it?
[04:54] <EiEiOhh> is there an alternative to pastebin? I am getting "denies access"
[04:54] <Aaron> Anoniem4l, it should be you are just confused with the libraries linking
[04:54] <Aaron> !tell EiEiOhh about pastebin
[04:54] <Aaron> read the message EiEiOhh
[04:54] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: nah i dont think there is any build/linux/version.h in the newer kernel headers
[04:55] <Anoniem4l> EriC^^: so the version of the driver is outdated then? because it was the only one available
[04:55] <Anoniem4l> (for my GPU)
[04:55] <Aaron> Anoniem4l, which release are you using?
[04:55] <Anoniem4l> kubuntu 3.13.0.43-generic
[04:56] <installingubuntu> anybody know why the Encrypt ubuntu installation and the use LVM options might be grayed out in the installer?
[04:56] <EriC^^> Anoniem4l: sometimes you can patch it to work, there could be a better way or something else going on though
[04:56] <installingubuntu> I've got no clue, searched everywhere
[04:57] <daftykins> installingubuntu: install pastebinit and run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[04:57] <Aaron> installingubuntu, when you in the installation you always read the tty terminals for any errors
[04:57] <EiEiOhh> I think this is the log that you need http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593637/
[04:57] <installingubuntu> how do I get to them? dmesg?
[04:57] <EriC^^> installingubuntu: did you checksum the iso?
[04:58] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, omg,
[04:58] <Aaron> 7 commands for what?
[04:59] <installingubuntu> here's the paste
[04:59] <installingubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593641/
[04:59] <Aaron> and also EiEiOhh who's this client that keep on connecting zamily84?
[04:59] <Anoniem4l> I asked in #kubuntu but it's inactive...
[05:00] <Aaron> Anoniem4l, afraik you'll have to  be patient;
[05:00] <daftykins> installingubuntu: which Windows is that?
[05:00] <Aaron> !next
[05:00] <installingubuntu> windows 7
[05:00] <Aaron> !next <reply> next $user
[05:00] <EiEiOhh> thats me maybe mysql?
[05:00] <daftykins> installingubuntu: that 1572MB partition isn't normal at all, you've not really got space to squeeze in ubuntu
[05:01] <daftykins> installingubuntu: or did you make that 21GB partition #3 for ubuntu?
[05:01] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, negative,
[05:01] <installingubuntu> there's 102gb unallocated...
[05:01] <installingubuntu> Or at least that's what it says in gparted.
[05:02] <daftykins> installingubuntu: that's not what i'm reading :)
[05:02] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, that user might be a Hacker,
[05:02] <installingubuntu> daftykins: so that partition isn't showing up?
[05:02] <Aaron> or who ever is using your system
[05:03] <daftykins> installingubuntu: didn't you check out the paste i had you make?
[05:03] <daftykins> all 3 are NTFS
[05:03] <EiEiOhh> I think it might be a user I set up.. its defiantly mine
[05:03] <installingubuntu> yeah that's really weird
[05:03] <EriC^^> daftykins: the disk size is 240gb though
[05:04] <installingubuntu> it was previously a fedora install, removed the lvm partitions that were in an extended using lvremove
[05:04] <EriC^^> installingubuntu: the unallocated space is between sda2 and sda3 that could be why you can't use lvm
[05:04] <EriC^^> ( i'm not sure just guessing here )
[05:04] <daftykins> EriC^^: installingubuntu - ah, my bad it's my late night eyes again. i read partition 3 ending at 240 and didn't add them up
[05:05] <Aaron> installingubuntu, how do you get to tty terminals?
[05:06] <installingubuntu> gparted screenshot: http://imgur.com/zabBdUT
[05:06] <installingubuntu> what do you mean?
[05:06] <daftykins> hah yeah that's messy
[05:07] <installingubuntu> daftykins: and I have no control over it...
[05:07] <daftykins> installingubuntu: why not burn the discs or backup that recovery partition then kill it?
[05:07] <installingubuntu> daftykins: thought about it, never got around to it
[05:08] <daftykins> now's the time!
[05:08] <Aaron> lol
[05:08] <installingubuntu> how would that relate to the installer's problems
[05:08] <daftykins> because your disk wouldn't be a mess
[05:08] <Aaron> installingubuntu, install it with virtualbox and report it to the team,
[05:09] <installingubuntu> Aaron: you said something about tty terminals? would they have a log?
[05:09] <installingubuntu> Aaron: how would I see them?
[05:09] <Aaron> installingubuntu, yeah try pressing f1 to f7
[05:09] <Aaron> and see if there are any errors;
[05:10] <installingubuntu> Aaron: when should they be pressed?
[05:10] <Aaron> installingubuntu, ctrl + alt + f1
[05:11] <gshmu> ctrl + alt + f7
[05:11] <Aaron> the tty 7 is for X
[05:11] <Aaron> reserve for the X
[05:11] <Aaron> ;)
[05:11] <EiEiOhh> I think the COMMANDS are me installing what I thought I needed to install the drivres
[05:11] <Aaron> EiEiOhh, double check;
[05:11] <Aaron> if that's really you;
[05:12] <karstensrage> how do you get a newer version of apache to fit the way apt-get installs apache httpd
[05:12] <Aaron> karstensrage, you'll have to make apt-get dist-upgrade afraid;
[05:13] <daftykins> karstensrage: you want a newer version than is available in the repos?
[05:13] <Aaron> since if you install apache, new version might need lots of dependencies and that will brake your system
[05:13] <karstensrage> yeah i
[05:13] <daftykins> my bike has brakes.
[05:13] <karstensrage> do
[05:14] <EriC^^> Aaron: dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade the release.
[05:14] <Aaron> EriC^^, it will update the currently packages install on the system ;)
[05:14] <daftykins> Aaron: you've been giving some pretty questionable 'advice' since you joined.
[05:14] <installingubuntu> okay, went there, stupidly pressed startx instead of ctrl-alt-f7 and can't see the messages
[05:14] <Aaron> daftykins, /whois Aaron
[05:14] <Aaron> ;)
[05:15] <daftykins> Aaron: irrelevant.
[05:15] <Aaron> indeed ;)
[05:15] <installingubuntu> any way to get those same messages back?
[05:15] <EriC^^> Aaron: i thought you meant that cause that's what makes sense going by what you adviced
[05:15] <EiEiOhh> yes.. that's me. The manufacturers site said I needed build essential, GCC, PERL, kernal headers kernel pachage
[05:15] <EriC^^> *advised
[05:16] <Aaron> EriC^^, making senses is researching your error before asking ;)
[05:16] <installingubuntu> Aaron: what should I be looking for in the tty?
[05:17] <karstensrage> so nothing i can do
[05:17] <karstensrage> ?
[05:17] <Aaron> installingubuntu, what happen to your installation?
[05:17] <Aaron> did something when wrong?
[05:17] <EriC^^> Aaron: you leave me speechless, make sense of that as you wish ;)
[05:18] <installingubuntu> Aaron: what installation?
[05:18] <Aaron> installingubuntu, are you booting from the installation right now?
[05:18] <installingubuntu> Aaron: liveusb
[05:19] <Aaron> then recover the partition
[05:19] <Aaron> if you want to get back to fedora,
[05:19] <Aaron> or ask in #fedora
[05:19] <installingubuntu> Aaron: I nuked the fedora partition.
[05:19] <daftykins> karstensrage: what version are you on?
[05:20] <installingubuntu> Aaron: That's irrelevent too. Error happened before fedora
[05:20] <karstensrage> 12.04.5 LTS
[05:20] <installingubuntu> Aaron: screenshot of the installer http://imgur.com/9HVPDsz
[05:20] <Aaron> Okay so far so good,
[05:20] <karstensrage> will updating to 14.04 mess up anything i currently have
[05:21] <Aaron> installingubuntu, what's your error, or concern?
[05:21] <daftykins> karstensrage: you could mess with PPAs but you'd be better off running a newer version.
[05:21] <karstensrage> daftykins, ok
[05:21] <Aaron> and please be specific installingubuntu
[05:22] <installingubuntu> Aaron: if you look at the screenshot:http://i.imgur.com/9HVPDsz.png you'll see that there are two options that are grayed out.
[05:22] <Aaron> Yeah the encrypt, and the LVM,
[05:22] <installingubuntu> Aaron: I want to use them.
[05:23] <Aaron> first, you can either something else, and do it from scratch
[05:23] <installingubuntu> Aaron: that's my problem. What could cause this? what log should I look at?
[05:23] <Aaron> hit dmesg in any tty
[05:23] <Aaron> and you'll see any errors
[05:24] <installingubuntu> okay, grep *ERROR* on the dmesg?
[05:24] <Aaron> if you wish,
[05:24] <Aaron> or try dmesg -E  Enable printing messages to the console.
[05:26] <Spark> what software interprets the volume up/down multimedia keys?
[05:26] <Spark> is it some daemon running in X?
[05:26] <Spark> they don't appear to work from the console
[05:27] <Spark> however I'm not running gnome to my knowledge
[05:27] <Spark> just running .Xsession
[05:27] <Aaron> Spark, is because you'll need to configure the keyboard shortcuts
[05:28] <Aaron> System → Preferences → Keyboard Shortcuts. Find the "Volume up" and "Volume down" entries and click in the box to select the shortcut of your choosing.
[05:28] <Spark> Aaron: none of that exists if i'm not running a window manager though
[05:28] <Aaron> Spark, fresh install?
[05:28] <Spark> or are you saying do that just to configure whatever daemon is doing it
[05:28] <installingubuntu> these are the only two errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593764/
[05:29] <Spark> it's a very customised machine
[05:29] <installingubuntu> Aaron:
[05:29] <Aaron> Spark,         xmodmap -pke > xmodmap.conf
[05:29] <Aaron> try that ;)
[05:29] <Spark> that's just hte mapping to keysyms
[05:29] <Spark> is there some x client listening to them and modifying the alsa mixer
[05:29] <Spark> actually not sure if pulseaudio fits into this somehow
[05:29] <installingubuntu> Aaron: the only errors I get are irrelevant the the partioning. They are errors with the gpu
[05:30] <Aaron> installingubuntu, try deleting those partitions if you don't have nothing important,
[05:30] <phunyguy> keyboard shortcuts are controlled by a running settings daemon like gnome-settings-daemon, etc/
[05:30] <installingubuntu> which partitions?
[05:30] <phunyguy> vor volume that is
[05:30] <Aaron> Spark, try adding sudo adduser username audio
[05:30] <Aaron> just in case this might help
[05:30] <phunyguy> Aaron: that command doesn't look correct
[05:30] <phunyguy> not at all.
[05:31] <phunyguy> Aaron: if you are going to have users sudo things, you should probably get the commands right... or hush.
[05:31] <Spark> phunyguy: gnome-settings-daemon isn't running though, nothing with gnome in the name is
[05:31] <Spark> is it built into Xorg htese days?
[05:31] <Aaron> phunyguy, that's adding the $home$User to the audio group;
[05:31] <Spark> that would be weird
[05:31] <installingubuntu> this isn't worth it
[05:31] <installingubuntu> could this be a bug?
[05:32] <phunyguy> Aaron: except it's not.
[05:32] <phunyguy> oh, I was thinking of useradd.
[05:32] <phunyguy> old habits ;)
[05:32] <phunyguy> carry on,.
[05:33] <phunyguy> but with that said, the user should already be in that group by default.
[05:33] <Aaron> phunyguy, negative,
[05:33] <phunyguy> are we talking about ubuntu?
[05:34] <EiEiOhh> So do you think I didnt need to install all of that stuff
[05:34] <Aaron> perhaps we are,
[05:34] <Spark> basically what i want to achieve is that the volume keys increase the volume by "more than 100%"
[05:34] <Spark> which can be done via pacmd
[05:34] <phunyguy> Spark: which version of ubuntu
[05:34] <Spark> this is precise
[05:34] <phunyguy> which desktop, etc
[05:34] <Spark> X = notion via .Xsesion
[05:34] <Spark> X + notion rateher
[05:34] <Spark> after christmas i'll be on trusty
[05:34] <phunyguy> do volume keys work at all?
[05:35] <Spark> yeah they work as intended
[05:35] <Spark> i'm trying to change their behaviour
[05:35] <Spark> i'm not sure exactly what htey're doing or how they're doing it
[05:35] <Spark> they probably are changing the alsa mixer levels directly
[05:35] <Spark> that's my guess
[05:35] <Spark> but pulse audio is also capable of doing that
[05:35] <phunyguy> here is what I do on xfce... I set the volume up key shortcut to sh -c "pactl set-sink-mute 0 false ; pactl -- set-sink-volume 0 -5%"
[05:36] <phunyguy> and volume down to...sh -c "pactl set-sink-mute 0 false ; pactl set-sink-volume 0 +5%"
[05:36] <Spark> yeah i used to do that on a previous version
[05:36] <Spark> except i used alsactl :)
[05:36] <phunyguy> I had them backwards
[05:36] <phunyguy> but you get the idea
[05:36] <Spark> but now there is already some software doing it
[05:36] <phunyguy> oh... well.
[05:36] <phunyguy> bummer.
[05:36] <Spark> i need to either modify it or disable it
[05:36] <phunyguy> probably pulse, no?
[05:37] <Spark> i don't think so because pulse volume control affects the master, speaker, and pcm levels
[05:37] <Spark> whereas the volume buttons just affect master
[05:37] <Spark> but it could still be pulse
[05:37] <phunyguy> see if you have a pulseaudio process running
[05:37] <Spark> yeah i do
[05:37] <phunyguy> then it is pulse.
[05:37] <phunyguy> try those commands in a terminal over and over again to see if you get 100+%
[05:37] <phunyguy> the +5 one
[05:38] <Spark> i can use pactl to get them
[05:38] <Spark> but then if i hit the volume up key, it resets it
[05:38] <phunyguy> then map the keyboard shortcut to do it for you and profit.
[05:38] <Spark> so i guess it can't be pulse, or if it is, it's interfering with itself
[05:38] <phunyguy> no pulse doesn't control keyboard shortcuts... something else is.... whatever your desktop is most likely.
[05:39] <Spark> i have no desktop
[05:39] <phunyguy> o.O
[05:39] <Spark> i'm running notion
[05:39] <daftykins> installingubuntu: you could follow - http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/10/how-to-setup-encrypted-ubuntu-installation/
[05:39] <Spark> actually i better check i didn't implement it and just forget...
[05:39] <daftykins> actually that looks non-LVM
[05:39] <daftykins> ho-hum.
[05:39] <Spark> heh i did implement it, but now it's commented out :)
[05:40] <daftykins> i still think your recovery partition should be resolved.
[05:40] <Spark> i probably ocmmented out because of the other daemon watching those keys
[05:40] <phunyguy> Spark: very interesting.  Either way, you have something mapping the volume up and down keys... does notion come with a default config?
[05:40] <Spark> yeah i deleted it and wrote my own ;)
[05:40] <Spark> i grepped the whole lot, nothing binding those keys that isn't commented out
[05:41] <phunyguy> does it contain keybinding stuff for XF86VOL stuff or whatever it is called
[05:41] <Spark> oh but if i sigstop the wm the buttons stop working
[05:41] <phunyguy> XF86AUDIO is what it is
[05:41] <Spark> ah that sounds promising
[05:41] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Is this problem still something to do with DNS - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593814/
[05:41] <Blackhornet> I am guessing that something is not set right on this fresh install as my other machines around are working with out a problem with my connection?
[05:42] <daftykins> Blackhornet: do you have the universe repos enabled?
[05:42] <Spark> phunyguy: ah i found it, it is in fact some code that i wrote and forgot about
[05:42] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Not sure, where would I check?
[05:42] <Spark> i'm doing amixer sset Master 5%+;;
[05:42] <Spark> so i'll just change that to the pactl equivalents
[05:43] <daftykins> Blackhornet: hang on i think the package just got renamed, are you on 14.04 did you say?
[05:43] <phunyguy> Spark: good deal.
[05:43] <Spark> some of this notion config i wrote in 2002 ;)
[05:43] <Spark> back when it was called ion
[05:44] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Yes, Ubuntu Gnome 14.04.1
[05:45] <daftykins> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras trusty
[05:45] <daftykins> there we go, it's in multiverse
[05:45] <daftykins> Blackhornet: wherever your program hides the software and sources program, find the multiverse repo and tick it to enable it, then update and install again
[05:46] <phunyguy> I need to go to bed.  Thanks everyone.  Aaron, again, I apologize, yes we are all non-paid helpers, even the ops... we all make mistakes from time to time.  Have a good night.
[05:46] <Blackhornet> daftykins: In the software center?
[05:46] <Aaron> like wise phunyguy
[05:47] <daftykins> Blackhornet: pass.
[05:49] <gioans> #ubuntu
[05:50] <gioans> hello
[05:50] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Well it has a multiverse tick box, but ts under the heading: Installable from CD-ROM/DVD?
[05:51] <daftykins> Blackhornet: well you can uncomment the /etc/apt/sources.list multiverse section, for the alternative method
[05:53] <Blackhornet> daftykins: I would not have the faintest idea of doing so.
[05:54] <daftykins> how?
[05:54] <daftykins> open a terminal, "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:54] <daftykins> find the links under the 'multiverse' section and remove the # in front
[05:57] <lickalott> anyone ever have issues with copying larger files (7gb >) across a network to an NFS share?  It works fine out of the gate then slows to like 3mb/s at around 1.7 - 2.0 gb or so (copied).  Then it will just hang an become unresponsive.
[05:59] <Blackhornet> daftykins: This part? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593887/
[06:00] <daftykins> lickalott: anything wrong with source or destination disk?
[06:00] <daftykins> Blackhornet: yep
[06:00] <daftykins> already has no hashes there, hopefully you already removed them 0o
[06:00] <Blackhornet> daftykins: And you say I must remove the ## in that section at the beginning?
[06:01] <Blackhornet> I thought so, I did not see any or change them
[06:01] <daftykins> well there should've been one per line before the 'deb' so if that's how it looks now, then it's fine as-is
[06:01] <daftykins> in which case it's weird that it's not finding the above package as it exists
[06:01] <daftykins> are you sure a "sudo apt-get update" works ok right now?
[06:01] <Blackhornet> One moment
[06:04] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Here's the output, it does not make sense? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593913/
[06:04] <daftykins> Blackhornet: have you got the ubuntu disc in the drive still?
[06:05] <daftykins> you ought to disable the CD lines really
[06:05] <lickalott> daftykins, negative sir
[06:05] <daftykins> hmm no experience with NFS i'm afraid :(
[06:06] <Blackhornet> daftykins: I never installed with an ubuntu disk, I installed via USB. I will disable that in Software Center?
[06:08] <daftykins> Blackhornet: it doesn't mean a literal CD :) yeah, knock it out and re-run
[06:09] <sebastian> hi
[06:09] <daftykins> morning
[06:11] <sebastian> I'm new in ubuntu, how can I install java?
[06:12] <Blackhornet> daftykins: I don't get it, now it works and that unticked box was that way in the first place? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9593932/
[06:12] <Blackhornet> And down its downloading and installing Ubuntu Restricted Extras?
[06:12] <Blackhornet> *Now
[06:16] <daftykins> Blackhornet: *shrug* :)
[06:24] <Blackhornet> daftykins: Agreed! ;-)
[06:24] <Blackhornet> Anyway, thank you for your time and help, happy holidays..........
[06:25] <daftykins> Blackhornet: and to you :) my pleasure
[06:26] <Blackhornet> ;-)
[06:47] <Smedles> hi all - my system (Dell XPS13) running Ubuntu 14.10  on resuming from suspend seemingly randomly, doesn't produce a picture on the secondary monitor. The monitor does power up. Ctrl-Alt-F1 followed by Ctrl-Alt-F7 fixes the picture
[06:47] <Smedles> any suggestions on what logs to capture to raise a meaningful ticket?
[06:47] <daftykins> ask Dell what they want :)
[06:48] <daftykins> i'm not sure if Xorg.0.log will show anything other than initial launch
[06:51] <Smedles> daftykins: doesn't appear to show anything unusual...
[06:52] <daftykins> Smedles: well my uncertainty was my point, i don't know if it'd continue to add anything there after a resume
[06:52] <daftykins> it may only log initial-run of X
[06:53] <daftykins> is it intel graphics only?
[06:53] <Smedles> yeah, intel graphics
[06:54] <Smedles> and monitor is connected vis displayport
[06:56] <Smedles> it's not the end of the world, but it's annoying :)
[06:56] <daftykins> yeah
[06:56] <daftykins> well, ask Dell - see what they want
[06:57] <daftykins> maybe it's a DP quirk that'll get fixed in time
[07:06] <Domgreg> Hello folks. I am having trouble getting my scanner to work. Can anyone help? Please message me.
[07:07] <bazhang> Domgreg, with simplescan?
[07:07] <Domgreg> Xsane
[07:07] <bazhang> tried simplescan yet?
[07:08] <Domgreg> No. I will though.
[07:09] <Domgreg> software centre doesnt seem to have it.
[07:09] <daftykins> what version?
[07:10] <daftykins> !info simple-scan
[07:11] <Domgreg> Thanks checking.
[07:14] <Domgreg> Ok. Both simple-scan and xsane say same thing. No scanner detected. I have an Epsom 4180 photo.
[07:28] <drakedouay> how to I open up remote desktops gui via the command line
[07:28] <vnc786> has anybody join ubuntu machine to samba domain ?
[07:30] <drakedouay> nevermind
[07:51] <rzeka> I am using nscd on ubuntu server. How can I allow users defined in mysql to use shell?
[07:58] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594336/
[07:58] <PK2> Why?
[08:00] <PK2> I can't install Python anywhere
[08:00] <PK2> Debian can't
[08:00] <PK2> Ubuntu can't...
[08:00] <PK2> D:
[08:00] <daftykins> your mirror is dead, pick another one
[08:01] <PK2> in.archive.ubuntu.com?
[08:01] <PK2> OK
[08:06] <PK2> Is there some problem with the Python pkgs. ?
[08:07] <PK2> !ch
[08:07] <PK2> !LoCo
[08:08] <daftykins> PK2: i said change your mirror :)
[08:09] <PK2> OK
[08:09] <PK2> I'm checking
[08:09] <PK2> There was the same problem in Debian
[08:09] <PK2> Now trying ch.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:15] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594401/
[08:16] <PK2> :(
[08:16] <PK2> what the....
[08:18] <Darknet> PK2 apt-get upsate ?
[08:19] <Darknet> update *
[08:19] <Darknet> PK2: -> apt-get update ?
[08:19] <PK2> I did it
[08:20] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594425/
[08:21] <Ben64> PK2: might be a problem with your internet
[08:25] <PK2> It's no problem with my Internet
[08:25] <PK2> I can at least can 'ping' the server
[08:28] <bodasd> cprogramming.com
[08:28] <iptable> PK2: wget http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python3.4/libpython3.4_3.4.2-1_i386.deb
[08:28] <PK2> I try this ?
[08:29] <iptable> yes
[08:29] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594466/
[08:29] <iptable> checking here
[08:30] <bodasd> pls how do I connect to cplusplus channel?
[08:30] <iptable> PK2: works here. This excludes a failure in the repos
[08:30] <PK2> o.O
[08:30] <PK2> It doesn't here..
[08:30] <DJones> bodasd: I think its #c++ or could be ##c++
[08:30] <iptable> bodasd: try /join #c++
[08:30] <bodasd> thanks
[08:30] <iptable> actually ##c++
[08:30] <iptable> PK2: are you using a proxy?
[08:31] <PK2> No
[08:31] <PK2> No proxys
[08:32] <iptable> PK2: wget --server-response http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python3.4/libpython3.4_3.4.2-1_i386.deb
[08:32] <iptable> PK2: get me the headers it will print
[08:33] <PK2> OK
[08:33] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594488/
[08:33] <PK2> Am I blacklisted in the server?
[08:33] <PK2> le
[08:33] <iptable> PK2: also, give me the result of: wget www.google.co.uk
[08:33] <solars> hey, what's the easiest way to access a remote ubuntu desktop? I have ssh access.. had a vnc like tool but don't remember it's name
[08:34] <iptable> solars: vnc
[08:34] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594495/
[08:34] <ToshiBoy> VNC or Teamviewer
[08:34] <iptable> solars: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[08:34] <solars> can I also access the running X?
[08:34] <iptable> solars: you can using x11vnc
[08:35] <solars> iptable, perfect, thanks
[08:35] <PK2> So, what to do?
[08:35] <iptable> PK2: why ask if you have been blacklisted. what have you been doing?
[08:36] <iptable> PK2: so looks like you cannot access the repos but can access other sites. Now the question is whether your ISP is running a transparent proxy blocking those
[08:36] <PK2> I just use my PC as normal
[08:36] <PK2> Well, I dk
[08:36] <PK2> I'm using ABSPLL
[08:36] <cedvan> Hello
[08:36] <iptable> PK2: I would not know
[08:36] <PK2> Should I contact their support?
[08:37] <cedvan> I need solution for connect on VPN ipsec please ?
[08:37] <iptable> PK2: wget www.linuxtoolz.net/libpython3.4_3.4.2-1_i386.deb
[08:37] <iptable> cedvan: client solution?
[08:37] <cedvan> yes
[08:38] <iptable> cedvan: https://my.hostvpn.com/knowledgebase/11/L2TPorIPSec-Connection-from-Ubuntu-Desktop-1204.html
[08:38] <PK2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9594510/
[08:38] <iptable> cedvan: also http://askubuntu.com/questions/295208/how-do-i-connect-to-a-vpn-with-ipsec
[08:39] <iptable> PK2: this is MY webserver and the file is there and downloadable.
[08:40] <PK2> :O
[08:40] <iptable> PK2: and no, I did not blacklist you on my server. Looks like you cannot download DEB files for some weird reason. Either 1. you DO have a local proxy, or 2. you have a proxy on your router, or 3. your ISP has a proxy and is doing something naughty trying to force you onto windows
[08:40] <cedvan> http://ppa.launchpad.net/werner-jaeger/ppa-werner-vpn/ubuntu/dists/utopic/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[08:40] <PK2> ;o
[08:40] <iptable> cedvan: try the other link
[08:40] <PK2> 1) I don't have local proxy
[08:40] <cedvan> When apt update
[08:40] <PK2> 2) I don't
[08:40] <cedvan> ok
[08:40] <PK2> 3) I dk if he's trying to
[08:41] <iptable> PK2: in that case, your ISP most likely...
[08:41] <cedvan> Oh vpnc don't work, it demand a group name. I have only a key prepartage
[08:41] <iptable> PK2: contact their support, complain. get it escalated and good luck, sorry
[08:41] <PK2> Wait what
[08:41] <PK2> I can download it with my Win. 7 PC
[08:42] <PK2> Via Google Chrome
[08:42] <iptable> PK2: ? So it works on Win7 and doesn't work on Ubuntu? Is there some IP/IPv6/DNS differences between those?
[08:42] <PK2> IP diff. there is
[08:42] <PK2> The Ubuntu is 192.168.0.2
[08:42] <PK2> and the Win. 7 is 192.168.0.3
[08:43] <PK2> There's no DNS diffs.
[08:44] <PK2> And more weird, I can APT-GET INSTALL other pkgs.
[08:44] <PK2> It downloads correctly o.O
[08:44] <iptable> PK2: have you tried rebooting?
[08:45] <iptable> I find it odd that you cannot wget a file while others work...
[08:45] <PK2> OK I should try
[08:45] <solars> is it possible to create a vpn server through the network manager wizard?
[08:45] <PK2> Hmm
[08:45] <iptable> solars: ipsec? no.
[08:46] <solars> iptable, it can only be used as a client right? someone told me I can use it to set up a server as well
[08:46] <iptable> solars: not for ipsec from what I remember
[08:46] <solars> I just need a vpn that I can connect to remotely
[08:46] <iptable> well, not the GUI at least.
[08:46] <solars> to access servers at home
[08:46] <iptable> solars: how abotu ssh tunneling instead?
[08:47] <iptable> solars: more straight forward, save and works from more machines that are locked down.
[08:47] <MasterOfDisaster> solars: just NAT punching? what about IPv6?
[08:47] <iptable> as long as you can configure firefox socks5 proxy on your machine and run putty, you can tunnel via ssh
[08:47] <solars> it's different applications that have a lot of different connections (webservices) so ssh tunneling is a mess
[08:47] <solars> MasterOfDisaster, I don't know never tried
[08:48] <iptable> solars: IPv6 is not THAT wide yet, so you will find a lot of ISPs without support
[08:48] <solars> just need an easy setup so i can access these hosts as if they were here
[08:48] <iptable> solars: ssh tunnels though ... why a mess?
[08:48] <iptable> solars: you create a dynamic SSH tunnel and tell you firefox to use that tunnel. It's like being on the remote site for web and other TCP services
[08:48] <solars> iptable, because it's 10 different applications connecting to X different ports and I cannot always socksify the connection
[08:48] <solars> its not for browsing
[08:49] <MasterOfDisaster> solars: www.sixxs.net offers ipv6 connectivity. fast enough for a ssh connection, and many routers support their aiccu client.
[08:49] <iptable> solars: how about VNC over SSH tunnel?
[08:49] <iptable> solars: alternatively, install and use OpenVPN which is the easiest and safest solution
[08:50] <solars> I will use openvpn
[08:50] <iptable> solars: https://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html#quick
[08:50] <solars> iptable, thanks a lot
[08:50] <iptable> no probs
[08:50] <MasterOfDisaster> solars: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/539/Setting_up_a_Layer_3_tunneling_VPN_with_using_OpenSSH
[08:51] <PK2> After rebooting the same happens
[08:51] <solars> MasterOfDisaster, thanks
[08:52] <iptable> PK2: so other packages download but not this one, and this package works from Win7?
[08:52] <PK2> Yes.. :(
[08:52] <PK2> Win. 7 can download that DEB pkg.
[08:52] <PK2> but Ubuntu can't
[08:52] <PK2> Both are on the same LAN
[08:52] <iptable> um, omething is not right. Check your router configuration. properly.
[08:53] <solars> MasterOfDisaster, if it is used as an interface, does this tunnel all the connections?
[08:53] <iptable> looks like some kind of filtering is in place, surely...
[08:53] <PK2> Well, I can see that the router hasn't blocked the DEB files
[08:53] <PK2> Or the other DEBs wouldn't download
[08:53] <cedvan> I don't understand VPNC, Where configure key pre shared ?
[08:53] <PK2> and I can too see that the router isn't blocking *python*.deb
[08:53] <iptable> PK2: there is a filter somewhere ot some proxy blocking based on something. Let's try something else... hold on.
[08:54] <solars> iptable, MasterOfDisaster hm I forgot that I would like to connect to this network from phone/tablet (android) as well.. I assume openvpn is the best solution then?
[08:55] <iptable> solars: yes. OpenVPN works well on android
[08:55] <PK2> ok
[08:55] <solars> iptable, alright
[08:55] <iptable> PK2:  wget -d --header="User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/23.0.1271.97 Safari/537.11" www.linuxtoolz.net/libpython3.4_3.4.2-1_i386.deb
[08:57] <PK2> AAAND: IT'S DOWNLOAD -_-
[08:57] <cedvan> please ? What is group in VPNC ? My admin in my office have no informations of group for vpn ipsec
[08:57] <iptable> PK2: yup, it's a transparent proxy filter on your router and/or ISP which blocks certain user-agents (browsers) for some files
[08:57] <PK2> :O
[08:58] <iptable> PK2: that's is rude, naughty and should be made illegal. It's saying "you cannot download this debian package unless you are doing it from windows" ...
[08:58] <PK2> :(((
[08:58] <PK2> I'm sure Router isn't doing it
[08:58] <iptable> PK2: what we have done to prove it, is, we have modified the user-agent string on your wget command to pretend it's a windows chrome box.
[08:58] <PK2> At least, I only have access to Router and I haven't configured it to do so.
[08:58] <PK2> It must have been my ISP :(
[08:59] <iptable> PK2: so now that we know what the problem is, you have 2 options, and I suggest you execute them both.
[08:59] <PK2> what are 'em ?
[08:59] <iptable> PK2: 1. save the user-agent string form above which worked, then modify the apt-get user-agent in the config to pretend it is windows (workaround).
[08:59] <PK2> Where can I modify the apt-get user-agent ?
[09:00] <iptable> PK2: 2. contact your ISP, both support and complaints line and give them a right bollocking. Save the steps required for reproduction of the issue and email it to support and complaints too to prove it is them
[09:00] <PK2> OK
[09:00] <iptable> PK2: for workaround: http://samhassell.com/apt-cant-see-sources-try-changing-the-user-agent/
[09:00] <PK2> I should do both
[09:00] <iptable> PK2: yes, do both.
[09:01] <PK2> OK
[09:01] <iptable> PK2: see the link I just sent. you. follow it and just modify the user-agent tot he string that worked.
[09:01] <iptable> Ok, that issue was more entertaining than I have originally anticipated. I was of a "user error" mindset when we started. I feel quite happy now :)
[09:02] <PK2> hmm :(
[09:02] <PK2> It made me unhappy
[09:02] <iptable> PK2: knowing what the issue is, is more than 50% of resolution. You should be happy. We have the root cause and the workaround.
[09:02] <iptable> unhappy = no route cause found, give up, no workaround and no solution
[09:03] <iptable> root cause, not route... been configuring routers for the last 2 hours...
[09:03] <PK2> http://samhassell.com/apt-cant-see-sources-try-changing-the-user-agent/
[09:03] <PK2> none@userver:~/tmp$ sudo cp /etc/apt/apt.conf ./
[09:03] <PK2> cp: cannot stat ‘/etc/apt/apt.conf’: No such file or directory
[09:03] <PK2> Another problem arises
[09:03] <iptable> PK2: nope, as per the manual, point 1. "Create and edit@
[09:04] <PK2> OK
[09:04] <iptable> PK2: apt-get doesn't have a config file by default. it uses it's defaults for everything. you create a config and put overwrites in it.
[09:06] <PK2> Magically it works now
[09:06] <PK2> :o
[09:06] <PK2> After following this guide :O
[09:07] <PK2> The firewall will think it's a Windows trying to download stuff
[09:07] <iptable> PK2: there we go :) But please, DO follow point 2 - complaint to ISP on all fronts
[09:07] <iptable> PK2: don't just use the workaround and let them get away with it
[09:07] <iptable> justice!
[09:07] <PK2> I'd contact the support today!
[09:07] <PK2> And will reck 'em up
[09:07] <iptable> PK2: don't call
[09:07] <PK2> don't call?
[09:07] <iptable> PK2: email them. so you have proof of all communication
[09:08] <PK2> Okay
[09:08] <iptable> PK2: email complaints, customer service and support. Each email separate with full non-tech blurb of issue and full tech explanation of replicaiton and tests performed
[09:08] <PK2> OK
[09:09] <iptable> PK2: If they fail to resolve fast enough, you might (read your contract) have a right to ask for refund/discount or even complain to your Ofcom equivalent (gov communicaitons regulator) and get more.
[09:09] <PK2> ok
[09:09] <PK2> I'd try...
[09:10] <PK2> Thanks for all suppor
[09:10] <PK2> t
[09:10] <iptable> PK2: in UK, it's normally 30 days for broadband and 7 days for mobile communications. But read through and give it a shot. No worries, use Ubuntu, get great (free!) support from community
[09:10] <gdm85> hi there! I am having issues with the 'tar' command. Although the man page says that --ignored-failed-read shall not return a non-zero exit code, it does. any ideas?
[09:10] <PK2> Yea
[09:10] <josej> hola
[09:11] <iptable> gdm85: you just want it to return a 0 exit code?
[09:11] <gdm85> iptable: only in case of "file changed as we read it"
[09:11] <josej> alguien me puede decir como configurar amule  tiene la ID baja y tengo todos los puertos abiertos
[09:12] <PK2> Which language is this?
[09:12] <PK2> Spanish?
[09:12] <iptable> gdm85: the switch you mention is for unreadable files, not for "files changed during read"
[09:12] <iptable> gdm85: also, it's ignore-failed-read, not ignored-failed-read
[09:12] <josej> yes
[09:13] <iptable> !es |josej
[09:13] <gdm85> iptable: I mistyped, the command is specified correctly
[09:14] <iptable> gdm85 "don't exit with non-zero status on unreadable files" - that doesn't say "on file being written during read", but rather "on bad sectors and files locked form reading"
[09:14] <josej> join #ubuntu-es
[09:15] <iptable> josej: /join #ubuntu-es
[09:15] <iptable> the /
[09:16] <iptable> gdm85: what is the error message & code when tar reads files which are currently being written
[09:16] <iptable> oh. file changed as we read it. that one?
[09:17] <gdm85> iptable: yep. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=P1sjbpT8
[09:17] <gdm85> the second one I triggered it by moving around a file
[09:17] <gdm85> somebody advised me about this option, but I get it's not tailored for the file changed issue
[09:18] <gdm85> honestly I'd just switch to 7z if I could preserve all filesystem attributes, without tar in the middle
[09:18] <iptable> gdm85: try --warning=no-file-changed
[09:18] <gdm85> iptable: mh, that might work! thanks
[09:18] <iptable> gdm85: it will supress the warning about changed file, not sure, it might supress the error code too. haven't tested
[09:18] <phre4k> gdm85: tar.lzma is roughly the same as 7z, only the container is different.
[09:19] <phre4k> (joined 10:18 though, could've misunderstood the topic)
[09:19] <gdm85> phre4k: I am uncomfortable with tar's command line syntax (and I use CLIs all the day). I know there is an xckd about it, but really - I am ready to give it away any day :)
[09:19] <iptable> phre4k: to brief you in, question is: how to ignore tar's "file changed during read" message and make tar still return error code 0 on THAT message and only that message.
[09:19] <gdm85> phre4k: yes I usually go for xz
[09:20] <phre4k> gdm85: print a cheatsheet :D
[09:20] <gdm85> phre4k: it's the only command I fail at learning consistently :P
[09:20] <iptable> that's what the man pages are for
[09:20] <iptable> and man page search option using /term
[09:21] <gdm85> iptable: I know, but I don't like CLIs with specific parameter order requirements
[09:21] <gdm85> phre4k: by the way, instead of --ignore-failed-read I will go for --warning=no-file-changed as iptable suggested. the former was never what I wanted to use
[09:21] <phre4k> "I never remember whether tar xzvf or tar xzvf" :D
[09:22] <phre4k> gdm85: yeah, I think that's a good solution
[09:22] <iptable> without the -, it 'desn't matter
[09:22] <phre4k> ^ thatsthejoke.jpg
[09:23] <iptable> phre4k: gdm85 tar is trying to become sane nowadays. tar -zxvf for example is OLD and needs the correct order. tar zxvf and xzvf and vzxf will work as without - is the new way without syntax order. still, loads of syntax ordering for ignore dirs etc, but maybe one day...
[09:24] <phre4k> iptable: I know that ;) but yes, you're right. I think Linux CLI has come a great way in the past, I wish I could program reasonably well to help development.
[09:24] <phre4k> but I'm rather in IRC and supporting newbs than debugging that semicolon 3000 LOC ago
[09:24] <iptable> haha, yes
[09:25] <iptable> I like helping. We had a real good issue just before you joined. found that ISP was blocking certain files with deb extension (python*.deb) IF the user-agent is other than windows
[09:25] <iptable> phre4k: ^ makes me happy to find out and angry some ISP would even do that.
[09:25] <iptable> paid by Micro$oft?
[09:26] <iptable> workaround was changing user-agent in apt ;)
[09:26] <iptable> right, cofee time.
[09:32] <gdm85> iptable: or use SSL/TLS :P
[09:33] <iptable> gdm85: that will work if 1. your repo accepts ssl, 2. the ISP is not running a transparent SSL proxy which is possible nowadays
[09:33] <iptable> gdm85: all thanks to the SSL-SNI extension
[09:34] <gdm85> iptable: eh?
[09:34] <iptable> gdm85: ? the user had an ISP transparent proxy issue.
[09:35] <gdm85> iptable: so the client had installed custom CAs? that would make SSL not really mitm-proof
[09:36] <iptable> gdm85: no, the client did not have custom CAs
[09:37] <gdm85> iptable: your ISP cannot impersonate another website identity if you verify certificate chains and CAs
[09:37] <iptable> gdm85: besides, the repos did not serve https and the user would like a more permanent solution than hoping for SSL everywhere
[09:38] <iptable> gdm85: you ISP can do it if they enforce proxy use and push it's configs to you using 3rd party tools, the router that THEY own etc for example
[09:39] <iptable> gdm85: alternatively, a quiet redirect with passthrough using SNI would work, but you would notice that you get redirects to another URL. Like I said, lots of ways
[09:39] <iptable> gdm85: also, there is SSLsplit and SSLstrip. 2 more ways
[09:39] <gdm85> iptable: I am sorry but that's not how it works. if your client (wget, apt etc) verifies certificates you can't get a mitm on SSL
[09:39] <gdm85> we are talking here about apt or cli tools, no?
[09:39] <gdm85> it's != than browsers or mobile phones
[09:40] <iptable> gdm85: correct. read on sslsplit.
[09:40] <gdm85> iptable: you still need forged certificates. I am referring only to an (ideal) situation where you don't have a compromised set of CA certs, nor somebody can forge certs
[09:41] <iptable> gdm85: we are talking about an ISP who also happens to have a cert signing authority
[09:41] <iptable> besides, as stated, user-agent rewrite seems like a more permanent workaround for all possible software sources
[09:41] <gdm85> iptable: has the customer such CA in its /etc/ssl/certs (or equivalent)?
[09:42] <iptable> besides, as stated, user-agent rewrite seems like a more permanent workaround for all possible software sources
[09:42] <gdm85> I would prefer not allowing such ISP eyes pry
[09:42] <iptable> gdm85: ^ I'm not willing to entertain the issue any more forward with more information.
[09:43] <gdm85> it's not entertainment, I was reading misinformation. have a nice day! :)
[09:43] <iptable> gdm85: if an ISP blocks any part of my traffic, other than purely-illegal torrent sites (and that only by blacklisting IP access, not DNS/HTTP redirect voodoo), they are not worth my time.
[09:43] <gdm85> yeah I'd agree
[09:43] <iptable> I agree (while not happily) that blocking illegal movie downloads is OK, it is law.
[09:44] <Guest48279> bjr tt le monde
[09:44] <iptable> but python*.deb based on user-agent being other than windows? :D
[09:44] <Fuchs> Guest48279: English works better in here, and not abbreviated French probably in the French channels *nods*
[09:45] <theadmin> iptable: An ISP blocking a client simply because it's not Windows doesn't make any sense, to be honest.
[09:45] <gdm85> iptable: ^ see my previous question. if answer is no then ISP can't do nothing to mitm. and I am not a big fan of SSL/CAs, but at least let's not spoil it for what's working
[09:45] <theadmin> If they are, that's not a good ISP.
[09:45] <theadmin> Just get rid of them.
[09:45] <iptable> theadmin: I know!. But here we go: wget of all possible files works apart from some deb files. Tried everything, including putting those deb files on my own server. He get's 503 with those. WOrks from windows though. faking user-agent to widnows also starts to work :/
[09:46] <iptable> theadmin: not my ISP ;)
[09:46] <theadmin> iptable: Still get rid of them :P
[09:46] <iptable> theadmin: looks like python*.deb match for user-agent on a filter. If I could, I would fire all of them and hire someone with a brain :D
[09:46] <gdm85> yeah indeed. and use an SSL APT mirror. at least they can't check what you download
[09:47] <iptable> not that it matters if they know I downloaded apache :/
[09:47] <iptable> Not all mirrors of all packages have SSL, that's the point I was making. Besides, if machine is slow (or connection) SSL == overhead.
[09:48] <theadmin> ...not too much overhead.
[09:48] <iptable> *depends* ;)
[09:48] <iptable> anyways, points given and taken, boycott the ISP and move on :)
[09:49] <iptable> solution
[09:50] <iptable> oh ch.archive.ubuntu.com doesn't have HTTPS :/ Neither does gb.archive.ubuntu.com. So, user-agent is the only way.
[09:50] <Guest48279> hello
[09:50] <iptable> Hellol
[09:50] <Guest48279> how ar u
[09:51] <iptable> Querstion?
[09:51] <iptable> I'm ok
[09:52] <phre4k> iptable: blocking DEB files is horrible. I'd certainly quit this contract
[09:52] <Guest48279>  so  .  i   have each problem with my computer hp probook 4540 s
[09:53] <gdm85> it might also be a simple mistake in their smart firewall rules
[09:53] <iptable> phre4k: yes. So I advised the user to complain to support and complains line in email (proof of communication) and if they don't respond within contractual time, ask for refund/discount/cancellation
[09:53] <gdm85> that's why I wouldn't want to play whack-a-mole with them
[09:54] <iptable> gdm85: hard to misspell python*.deb && user-agent !~ ".*windows.*" :P But yes, it *could* be. hence I advised to complain first.
[09:55] <gdm85> iptable: I had once some hosts modifications that would block too much. it was a similar issue..
[09:55] <iptable> or they block it as python is a hacker tool :P Just like wget, dig and telnet :D
[09:55] <Guest48279>  inh .....
[09:55] <iptable> ah, good old time of silly corporate...
[09:55] <Guest48279> ssomeone can help me
[09:55] <Guest48279> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?,?,?,?
[09:56] <iptable> gdm85: could be. but why user-agent type block! that's wrong. It blocks wget and apt user agent. you make it windows and it works.
[09:56] <gdm85> iptable: because you hack0rz!!11!! :P
[09:56] <iptable> Guest48279: Well, you need to tell us what the problem is first. Saying "I have a problem" doesn't make us know how to help you.
[09:57] <iptable> gdm85: haha, yes. wind0ws corporate (IT) policies ... gotta hate 'em.
[09:57] <gdm85> iptable: have customer tweet publicly about it. see their reply
[09:57] <gdm85> (nowadays that's the fastest lane)
[09:57] <Guest48279>  okay .  fine  .    i can use my wirless network with  ubuntu 12.04
[09:58] <theadmin> gdm85: What ISP is that? Just so I'll know to stay away from them :P
[09:58] <iptable> gdm85: now THAT is a good point.
[09:58] <phre4k> iptable: proves again many ISPs are mismanaged shitholes of data destruction and politics
[09:58] <gdm85> theadmin: iptable knows, not mine :P
[09:58] <theadmin> Oh.
[09:58] <iptable> can't remember. PK2 what's you ISP?
[09:58] <phre4k> have to go to work, cu there :D
[09:58] <PK2> Mine is ABSPL
[09:58] <phre4k> ah, great. Nothing from Germany. :D
[09:58] <phre4k> cul8r
[09:59] <theadmin> Well... Never heard of that. So probably won't run into it :P
[09:59] <nagromlt> no sound off speakers
[09:59] <nagromlt> just headphones
[09:59] <iptable> PK2: what country isthat?
[10:00] <theadmin> nagromlt: Unplug headphones?
[10:00] <nagromlt> want to BUMP Natasha Bedingfield
[10:00] <iptable> Guest48279: so you can use your wireless network. and?
[10:00] <PK2> India
[10:00] <PK2> I'm in India
[10:00] <iptable> oh
[10:00] <iptable> that explains a lot. India ISP...
[10:00] <Guest48279>  io don't see wirless option
[10:01] <iptable> Guest48279: what is your wireless network card?
[10:01] <Guest48279> realink 3290
[10:02] <iptable> Guest48279: let me google that for you. http://askubuntu.com/questions/455030/ralink-rt3290-wifi-driver-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04
[10:06] <nagromlt> help with Ubuntu sound?
[10:06] <iptable> nagromlt: so you have sound in headphones but not via speakers?
[10:07] <nagromlt> yeah
[10:07] <iptable> nagromlt: is this a desktop or laptop? Are the speakers built-in?
[10:07] <nagromlt> iptable, yeah
[10:07] <iptable> nagromlt: yeah which one? desktop/laptop?
[10:07] <nagromlt> lap built in
[10:07] <nagromlt> hang on
[10:07] <iptable> ok. if you unplug headphones, do you get sound?
[10:08] <iptable> in speakers that is
[10:08] <iptable> nagromlt: ^
[10:08] <nagromlt> The program 'snd' can be found in the following packages:
[10:08] <nagromlt>  * snd-gtk-jack
[10:08] <nagromlt>  * snd-gtk-pulse
[10:08] <nagromlt>  * snd-nox
[10:08] <nagromlt> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[10:08] <iptable> nagromlt: do NOT install stuff just like that. You DO have sound in headphones, so obviously it works.
[10:09] <nagromlt> obv
[10:09] <iptable> nagromlt: so, if you unplug headphones, do you get sound in the speakers then?
[10:09] <nagromlt> just hard sound
[10:09] <nagromlt> no jinput
[10:09] <nagromlt> i guess
[10:09] <nagromlt> no jinput for 5sound
[10:09] <iptable> jinput?
[10:10] <iptable> wait, what's hard sound.
[10:10] <nagromlt> jscvksd?
[10:10] <nagromlt> jsnd?
[10:10] <nagromlt> wtvr it is
[10:10] <iptable> Can you please describe the issue EXACTLY?
[10:10] <nagromlt> how exactly
[10:10] <iptable> what's hard sound?
[10:10] <nagromlt> hardrvsnd
[10:10] <HP__> join #kiwiirc-default
[10:10] <nagromlt> wait
[10:10] <nagromlt> ytbesnd continuing...
[10:11] <nagromlt> fcktht
[10:11] <iptable> are you trolling or can't type?
[10:11] <nagromlt> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5RuGj0g1tk
[10:11] <nagromlt> iptable, drunk
[10:11] <iptable> nagromlt: then get sleep.
[10:11] <nagromlt> NO
[10:11] <iptable> and no, we will not be watching your youtube link
[10:11] <nagromlt> gud
[10:12] <nagromlt> I needz to play it loud now.
[10:12] <iptable> you needz to talk normal, respond to questions and behave. Trust me on this.
[10:13] <iptable> So, if you unplug the headphones, does sound come out of speakers at all or not?
[10:14] <nagromlt> yes, sound,  sorry
[10:14] <nagromlt> hard sound only
[10:14] <iptable> waht is hard sound?
[10:14] <iptable> can you define that please?
[10:15] <nagromlt> seems
[10:15] <nagromlt> just sound out of hard speaker
[10:15] <nagromlt> (built in)
[10:16] <iptable> wait, what's a soft speaker then?
[10:16] <nagromlt> laptop
[10:16] <Guest48279>  thank i will try
[10:16] <nagromlt> intal celeron
[10:16] <iptable> can you please tell me everything. what works and what doesn't? you have
[10:16] <iptable> you are not helping yourself
[10:16] <nagromlt> Im being fucked with
[10:16] <iptable> 1. headphones in jack works, right?
[10:16] <iptable> 2. laptop built-in speaker works?
[10:16] <iptable> 3. what doesn't work?
[10:16] <nagromlt> iptable,   yeah
[10:16] <iptable> answer all 3
[10:17] <nagromlt> dpeaker 5.1
[10:17] <zhanglf> hi
[10:17] <nagromlt> ok
[10:17] <nagromlt> hang on
[10:17] <zhanglf> anyone here?
[10:17] <nagromlt> snd c heack?
[10:17] <nagromlt> you want snd check?
[10:17] <iptable> so what doesn't work is some external speakers you are putting in the headphone jack while sound works from built-in speakers and when you plugin headphones to that jack it works too?
[10:17] <nagromlt> or LAN chk?
[10:18] <nagromlt> jsound-in not yet
[10:18] <iptable> nagromlt: fix your speakers then. if headphones works and built-in speakers work, ubuntu works. your external speakers have a fault, are unplugged from power or incompatible.
[10:19] <nagromlt> saschpe?
[10:19] <iptable> now please have a lie down as you are not making sense.
[10:19] <nagromlt> whats that?
[10:19] <iptable> last watning
[10:19] <iptable> warning
[10:19] <nagromlt> ?
[10:19] <OerHeks> iptable, let him go ( to sleep)
[10:19] <nagromlt> is there a terminal command i can typ?
[10:20] <iptable> I'm done responding OerHeks ;)
[10:20] <nagromlt> type?
[10:21] <nagromlt> what is  a good command to let you know what my sound drivers are doing?
[10:21] <nagromlt> really
[10:21] <nagromlt> :P
[10:22] <nagromlt> I though snd ls was good
[10:22] <nagromlt> Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
[10:22] <nagromlt> nagromlt@nagromlt-laptop:~$ drv
[10:22] <nagromlt> No command 'drv' found, did you mean:
[10:22] <nagromlt>  Command 'dav' from package 'dav-text' (universe)
[10:22] <nagromlt>  Command 'ddv' from package 'ncbi-tools-x11' (universe)
[10:22] <nagromlt>  Command 'drc' from package 'drc' (universe)
[10:22] <unopaste> nagromlt you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[10:23] <nagromlt> weak
[10:24] <nagromlt> old school had a left stop...
[10:24] <nagromlt> stoop left
[10:25] <OerHeks> nagromlt, easy on the enter, buddy, you are flooding the servers.
[10:25] <nagromlt> ok
[10:25] <nagromlt> not trying to
[10:25] <nagromlt> damn
[10:25] <nagromlt> sign of?
[10:25] <phre4k> I'm back and I have a question :D
[10:25] <betehess_> hi, I am currently trying to reinstall Ubuntu, but my /home was encrypted and I don't know how to avoid re-formatting it (the Format? box stays checked)
[10:26] <iptable> betehess_: double-click on the /home to edit it and uncheck FOrmat.
[10:26] <iptable> phre4k: choot
[10:26] <iptable> shoot
[10:26] <phre4k> debconf-get-selections --installer doesn't work, the corresponding /var/log/installer/... files are size 0. Why that? I want to install Ubuntu on a few Desktops and it's making my life harder than it should be
[10:26] <iptable> phre4k: you want to install same packages on all desktops?
[10:27] <phre4k> I don't want to do the preseed txt by hand, I hate that part. I have an existing Debian preseed file but I don't think it works
[10:27] <phre4k> iptable: yep, and I have modified some config files I may include in a .deb
[10:27] <betehess_> iptable: it stays grey even when I open the box. If I change to ext3, it's ungreyed, then I uncheck and validate, then it comes back checked and grey
[10:28] <phre4k> for now I'd package it and transfer via USB/rcp but in the future I want to to an apt-cache-ng server
[10:28] <Guest2> join #tps
[10:29] <iptable> betehess_: you are not supposed to change the filesystem. otherwise of course it will try to format
[10:29] <Fuchs> works a bit better with a / in front of it, Guest2
[10:30] <iptable> phre4k: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[10:30] <betehess_> iptable: I don't want to change it (I always go back to ext4, which I've always used), I am just trying to outsmart the UI...
[10:30] <betehess_> iptable: don't know why, but it seems ok with /
[10:31] <iptable> betehess_: so, when you start installer, what changes have you done in the partitioner altogether? at what point did it mark as "format"?
[10:31] <iptable> betehess_: also, make sure you got the right partition in question and you saved the encryption key for your /home
[10:31] <LinuxNewb> i accidentally deleted the start menu button, how do i put it back on my lubuntu?
[10:31] <iptable> betehess_: alternative would be to mark /home as "do not use" and manually enable it after install, incuding encryption
[10:32] <jost> Hi! I'd like to move / and /boot to a new harddrive. How do I do that? In which grub configuration file do I have to set the UUIDs of the new partitions?
[10:32] <topand> hello
[10:32] <betehess_> iptable: I don't do anything special. I want to re-used the same formatting, so I first have sda1 as non encrypted /boot, then have sda{2,3,4} as physical encyrpted volumes
[10:33] <iptable> phre4k: a better way would be to use aptitude with aptitude search '~i!~M'. It will least manually installed packages instead. which is great.
[10:33] <topand> anyone know how fix dpkg error ?
[10:33] <betehess_> iptable: then I try to configure /, swap and /home
[10:33] <iptable> jost: you have to chroot to new drive installation and update-grub2. you need to mount /proc /sys and /dev first for the chroot.
[10:34] <iptable> betehess_: how did you choose to have /home encrypted? tickbox or dmcrypt?
[10:34]  * iptable goes for a breakd
[10:35] <Guest2> hi
[10:35] <LinuxNewb> so does anyone know
[10:35] <betehess_> iptable: ok, will try something else, I hope it will work
[10:37] <alkisg> If I `dd` ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64+mac.iso to a USB stick, is it supposed to be bootable under UEFI?
[10:37] <alkisg> I'm not seeing the required "EFI" subdirectory anywhere...
[10:40] <jost__> Sorry for the repetition, I'm having connection problems... I'd like to move / and /boot to a new harddrive. How do I do that? In which grub configuration file do I have to set the UUIDs of the new partitions?
[10:41] <alkisg> jost__: don't have much time to help you, but one easy way would be to use tune2fs to set the same uuid to those partitions, and then just run grub-install
[10:41] <jost__> alkisg: ok, I'll look into that, thanks
[10:49] <marshal0505>  /window move 13
[10:50] <cfhowlett> command or tool to download files from the net.  need to be able to restart after interruptions because China
[10:51] <phre4k> iptable: will aptitude list uninstalled packages, too?
[10:52] <iptable> phre4k: no, the command I gave you will only list installed manually packages
[10:52] <nagromlt> why 4hreaking yung cmmnd?
[10:53] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, wget can, doesn't it? wget --continue url
[10:53] <nagromlt> tell
[10:53] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, wha ... really?!
[10:53] <nagromlt> --
[10:53] <nagromlt> oft aft
[10:53] <nagromlt> AF''T
[10:53] <nagromlt> ten
[10:53] <nagromlt> burn
[10:53] <phre4k> wtf?
[10:54] <nagromlt> fIgg
[10:54] <fidel__> nagromlt: do you expect help after such an input mess? ;)
[10:54] <Ben64> nagromlt: can you not
[10:54] <nagromlt> no
[10:54] <nagromlt> if ghtu
[10:54] <nagromlt> thuuu nuu nuu
[10:54] <nagromlt> w33r
[10:54] <DJones> nagromlt: Stop that, you're not making any sense, so people can't help you.
[10:55] <nagromlt> lertrewntwern
[10:55] <phre4k> iptable: could I do the following? 1. dpkg --get-selections > .txt, 2. create preseed file for installer, 3. install previously exported packages via preseed plus self-packaged .DEB?
[10:55] <Ben64> cfhowlett: look into aria2 , segmented downloader, continues, lots of other cool features
[10:55] <phre4k> cfhowlett: if you use BitTorrent it'd work too
[10:56] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, jups, i just tested it
[10:56] <iptable> phre4k: not really. you will mark all dependencies to manually install
[10:57] <OerHeks> phre4k, behind that great wall, torrent is not possible as far as i know
[10:58] <phre4k> OerHeks: rent a VPN?
[10:58] <phre4k> or are VPN connections also firewalled somehow?
[10:58] <phre4k> I'd love to see the Great Firewall config
[10:59] <OerHeks> phre4k, that should work, but wget -c or --continue works fine.
[10:59] <phre4k> OerHeks: I wouldn't use it though, because I'd fear the authorities coming down on me if I look at a web page with "compromising" stuff
[11:00] <phre4k> or was that North Korea?
[11:01] <leni1> hello all. I have a Debian installation that I have installed  several programs on. I want to make an image of the current  installation as it stands and be able to boot from it. Anyone  who can point me to any good tutorials and tools?
[11:01] <leni1> 14:00 -!- #debian Cannot send to channel
[11:02] <OerHeks> you might need to register with freenode, leni1
[11:02] <OerHeks> !register
[11:02] <Ben64> leni1: you may need to register to use that channel, this channel is ubuntu only
[11:02] <Ben64> bah, beaten by OerHeks
[11:03] <OerHeks> against spammers & funny people
[11:08] <LinuxNewb> should all windows program run on wine?
[11:09] <Ben64> !appdb | LinuxNewb
[11:09] <OerHeks> LinuxNewb, should, but they don't ( all)
[11:09] <OerHeks> see the wineHQ database.
[11:09] <LinuxNewb> i see. because i just downloaded a windows chess interface and it worked and i thought maybe everything else would work
[11:10] <Pricey> OerHeks: Ben64: lenil was registered & identified. Check out cap identify-msg, perhaps also bansearch.pl
[11:11] <Ben64> Pricey: huh?
[11:11] <OerHeks> Pricey, never knew about bansearch.pl
[11:12] <phre4k> LinuxNewb: you want to run as few Windows programs with WINE as possible, not only because of security risks
[11:12] <Pricey> Ben64: The user you were saying needed to be identified to speak in the other channel was already identified.
[11:12] <Pricey> Ben64: /whois first also works ;)
[11:12] <LinuxNewb> phre4k:  security risk??  why
[11:12] <Ben64> Pricey: not really our job to check all that
[11:13] <Pricey> Ben64: Really? You were trying to give advice and it was pretty useless advice...
[11:13] <iptable> LinuxNewb: it's windows applications, windows exploits etc on a linux-windows API translator to linux stack. It may pose security risks that you get in windows.
[11:14] <Ben64> Pricey: i did say "may" and OerHeks's bot trigger directed to #freenode, where they can help with issues like that. this channel is strictly Ubuntu support. thanks for your comments though, i'll take them under advisement (tossed in the bin)
[11:16] <LinuxNewb> iptable:  ok that convinces to delete all windows software i just downloaded
[11:16] <Pricey> Ben64: I'm struggling to see why this is an issue? It would've taken you 5s to check if they really were identified (e.g. with /whois) before giving them useless advice which didn't apply to them, wasting their time?
[11:16] <LinuxNewb> thanks for letting me know
[11:16] <Ben64> Pricey: i'm struggling to see why you need to even bring this up in this channel
[11:17] <Pricey> Ben64: Because we want to give good support? :(
[11:17] <Ben64> Pricey: in this channel, good Ubuntu support, #freenode is where good IRC support lives
[11:18] <iptable> LinuxNewb: you could instead install windows VM (virtual machine) under VirtualBox software for example and run your windows software there in isolation
[11:18] <iptable> LinuxNewb: that makes complete sense then ;)
[11:18] <LinuxNewb> do i need windows key to run that?
[11:18] <iptable> LinuxNewb: yes you do. You need a copy of windows
[11:18] <LinuxNewb> i need to do that now
[11:19] <Pricey> Ben64: Ugh, just... just be excellent to each other.
[11:19] <nilekada> how to image a current Linux installation so that I can boot from it and not have to reinstall my programs from scratch
[11:19] <LinuxNewb> can i find VM in software manager?
[11:19] <nilekada> Anyone know any good tutorials and tools
[11:20] <iptable> LinuxNewb: 1. install virtualbox (from software manager). It is a computer emulator. In the emulator, you create new virtual machine and install windows in it (you need a copy of windows install media CD or ISO, as said)
[11:21] <iptable> nilekada: what's the end goal? moving it to another machine or what?
[11:22] <phre4k> is there a way to only show manually changed package states? iptable?
[11:23] <nilekada> iptable: I simply don't want to do a fresh install on my computer
[11:24] <nilekada> I'm planning to wipe my disk and repartition it
[11:24] <nilekada> So I wanted to image my current installation as a bootable image, then wipe the disk and install the image
[11:24] <nilekada> So that I'm up and running
[11:36] <phre4k> hm, i just wanted to tell him about tar... :D
[11:38] <iptable> phre4k: no. this command (aptitude) will show manually installed packages. No command I am aware of for (manually uninstalled ones)
[11:39] <iptable> nilekada I have an answer but you left
[11:46] <phre4k> aptitude search '~i!~M' shows a looong list with unnecessary information, do I have to awk it out or does aptitude have a flag to only show package names for exporting?
[11:47] <phre4k> ah, got it, -F '%p'
[11:49] <iptable> ooh, nice. I normally awk it out. good to know.
[11:50]  * iptable goes for a lunch break
[11:50] <phre4k> sooo, if I do the aptitude search '~il~M' -f '%p' > selections.txt, then modify a preseed file to install the system, how do I install the packages again automatically? I know it's possible with aptitude install $(< selections.txt) but how do I put this in the preseed file?
[11:50] <phre4k> s/-f/-F/
[11:50] <betehess_> iptable: looks like there is a bug in the installer: I wasn't able to uncheck the Format? box for the *last* partition I was setting. So I configured /home before swap, and was able to uncheck it. I just hope it's really doing that right now
[11:50] <iptable> I believe you can ask preseed which packages to install
[11:51] <iptable> betehess_: cool
[11:51] <iptable> phre4k: I believe you can TELL preseed which packages to install
[11:52] <ikonia> phre4k: approach it as if you are doing a net install build
[11:52] <ikonia> you have to define the package manifest
[11:52] <phre4k> iptable: is there a preseed file generator somewhere? I just wasted 8 work hours on researching stuff for automatic deployment of Linux installation, no wonder it's so hard to find Linux admins :D
[11:53] <iptable> phre4k: see ikonia reply. and no, no generator I ever used. Just research preseed package installation
[11:53] <iptable> phre4k: d-i pkgsel/include string package1 package2
[11:53] <iptable> phre4k: that's how you list packages to install
[11:54] <phre4k> the Ubuntu docs are extremely shitty in this regard. I remember finding the 14.04 preseed.txt but it isn't linked in the wiki anywhere
[11:54] <iptable> phre4k: it's debian-installer preseed so check debian manuals. it all works on ubuntu
[11:54] <ikonia> phre4k: tone down the language
[11:54] <ikonia> the docs are pretty good
[11:55] <phre4k> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization → links to 10.04 guide and doesn't have current info
[11:55] <LinuxNewb> iptable:  your method will allow me to use lubuntu for the next 10 years.
[11:55] <phre4k> and yeah, I know that preseed doesn't change much, but it's still bad the file isn't easily available through the wiki
[11:56] <iptable> LinuxNewb: you are welcome ;)
[11:56] <phre4k> here's the file I'm talking about: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[11:56] <ikonia> phre4k: install CD
[11:56] <ikonia> phre4k: you're not doing an install CD
[11:57]  * iptable really goes for lunch now
[11:57] <phre4k> ikonia: I don't? I thought I run around installing computers with an USB drive
[11:57] <ikonia> phre4k: are you trying to build a custom CD or a preseed build ?
[11:58] <phre4k> I'm trying to install 3 PCs with the same config and don't want to use Ansible/Chef for reasons
[11:58] <ikonia> phre4k: are you trying to build a custom CD or a preseed build ?
[12:04] <phre4k> ikonia: custom ISO for USB needs a preseed file, doesn't it?
[12:05] <ikonia> depends what you're doing
[12:05] <phre4k> I don't want a live CD, I just want to have a CD/USB ISO which allows me to customize what's installed and how it's configured
[12:05] <ikonia> do you're trying to make a custom install cd
[12:05] <phre4k> for deploying a few computers now and a few dozens later
[12:06] <phre4k> ikonia: yes, and for that I need a preseed file, don't I?
[12:06] <ikonia> phre4k: thats certainly a good way of doing it yes
[12:07] <cfhowlett> !cookie | OerHeks, man that command was EXACTLY what I needed!  You just saved me multiple trips to the local Embassy for proxy'd internet.  cookies, beer, and a maple bacon flavored eggnog are yours!  Just meet me in Beijing.
[12:08] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, have fun
[12:09] <phre4k> is there a way to go through all questions asked by the installer, create a file and then use it? I only found debconf-get-selections --installer but that's empty
[12:09] <phre4k> the package list I have now, thanks to iptable's help
[12:09] <ikonia> phre4k: certainly not that I'm aware of
[12:09] <ikonia> I don't think it's interactive like that
[12:10] <phre4k> I did debconf-get-selections and piped it into a file but that file now contains a lot of bullshit, like setting a timezone which I never set, 3 times a different one
[12:12] <iptable> phre4k: timezone is being set during installation ;) so you could combine that and the aptitude result for package selection
[12:16] <BluesKaj_> hiyas all
[12:18] <nabn_> hi. i have virtualbox installed. but  i get /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[12:18] <lantizia> Any ideas how I get this not to alternate? (so it prints 24 spaces then 31 underscores?).....   printf '%.0s ''%.0s_' {1..24} {1..31}
[12:19]  * cfhowlett is amazed how much use and power can be gained by knowing the right command.  Hats off to Oerheks and wget -c FOO
[12:22] <phre4k> I think I will install the systems manually with the minimal install and just do aptitude install ($ < selections.txt)
[12:22] <phre4k> * aptitude install $(< selections.txt)
[12:22] <luca> hi
[12:23] <luca> hat jemand erfahrung mit wine?
[12:24] <fidel__> luckybunny: this is the english channel
[12:24] <Hercules> can I have a free disc of Ubuntu ? ( I live in India ) I am of 13 years and doesn't have fast internet or can get a CD from local store ( cause they got windows only none of them Ubuntu ) ?
[12:25] <fidel__> ups
[12:27] <fidel__> Hercules: the program shitit was stoped. see: http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit
[12:27] <fidel__> *shipIt*
[12:27] <Hercules> I know.
[12:27] <Hercules> Thats why requesting here.
[12:28] <Jesper--> It's not free but you can buy it here: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=1146
[12:28] <fidel__> Hercules: this is a support-channel - we dont ship marketing things on our costs for canonical ;)
[12:29] <Hercules> um.. someone said that ask here.
[12:29] <fidel__> as you have internet-access right now - considered using the minimal-cd?
[12:30] <Hercules> its dial-up internet.
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Hercules, best you buy it then
[12:32] <cfhowlett> Hercules, better idea: your India Ubuntu Group
[12:32] <OerHeks> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/indian-team/
[12:33] <Hercules> ok
[12:35] <ahmed__> Hello everybody, Kindly I would like to set multiple VLAN ids to one interface with one IP address of Ubuntu VM , Is that possible ? if yes, How to do it please ?
[12:42] <nabn> when i do 'lsmod | grep vbox' , it says 'vboxdrv 339502'. how can i find out where vobxdrv is located? i tried 'which vboxdrv', but it doesn't say anything..
[12:44] <Ben64> nabn: find /lib | grep vboxdrv
[12:44] <Ben64> nabn: why do you need to find it
[12:45] <Nedal> hi guys ! well I want to know what command should I do to find the files that exactly are made by 4 characters ( like for example I have ' file' , 'tata' 'toto' and 'tutu' in my directory , what command will print just those 3 files)
[12:46] <j4son> nabn: `modinfo vboxdrv`
[12:46] <nabn> Ben64, i am having trouble setting up genymotion (android emulator). It needs virtualbox. Though i have it installed, genymotion still fails to load, says i need to do etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. but i dont have vboxdrv under etc/init.d,
[12:46]  * rknk8 slapped zxc with a wet kipper!
[12:47] <ahmed__> Hello everybody, Kindly I would like to set multiple VLAN ids to one interface with one IP address of Ubuntu VM , Is that possible ? if yes, How to do it please ?
[12:47] <Ben64> nabn: you might want to contact the developer with that, they may have a solution already
[12:48] <nabn> Ben64, i am trying googling online since this morning. maybe i'll contact the devs now. thanks.
[13:00] <EriC^^> nabn: try to reinstall virtualbox
[13:02] <nabn> EriC^^, i did that. i purged vbox that i installed from ubuntu repos, installed again from deb file dwlded directly from virtualbox's website. i now have /etc/init.d/vboxdrv, but still genymotion fails to load. :( looking into it currently.
[13:08] <EriC^^> nabn: oh ok
[13:10] <iptable> nabn reboot
[13:10] <iptable> oh
[13:10] <iptable> dann, it's udev, reboot would solve it.
[13:12] <ahmed__> I would like to set multiple VLAN ids to one interface with one IP address of Ubuntu VM , Is that possible ? if yes, How to do it please ?
[13:16] <iptable> ahmed__: the othe way
[13:17] <phre4k> is there no alternate CD for 14.04+?
[13:17] <iptable> ahmed__: create multiple vlans for that interface (which create multiple "virtual" interfaces) and assign IPs to those
[13:17] <iptable> ahmed__: let me google that for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan
[13:17] <ahmed__> is it possible that those IPs are the same ?
[13:18] <iptable> ahmed__: theoretically yes
[13:18] <iptable> ahmed__: you need to configure your routing table very carefully though
[13:18] <ahmed__> OK I will need also to configure the same VLAN ids at the receiver node ?
[13:19] <ahmed__> not the sender only ?
[13:20] <ahmed__> see here please you will find what I am asking for but here the ips are different http://linux.cloudibee.com/2007/12/linux-vlan-configuration/
[13:20] <ahmed__> what I want to be the same
[13:20] <ahmed__> is that fine ?
[13:21] <DeeJayTwo> I noticed apt-get update now gives me this error:
[13:21] <DeeJayTwo> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3B22AB97AF1CDFA9
[13:21] <DeeJayTwo> can anybody tell me how to fix it?
[13:23] <rio_zenta> Hello
[13:24] <rio_zenta> I recently got a Lenovo machine and when I plug my earphones into the dual headphone/microphone jack, the sound coming out is very soft and the vocals aren't clear. Is there a way to fix this issue?
[13:25] <iptable> rio_zenta: change the speaker configuration to "headphones" maybe. sounds like it thinks it's a 5.1 system. try pavucontrol utility (install it).
[13:25] <iptable> rio_zenta: if not, then your headphone jack is very bad quality most likely.
[13:26] <rio_zenta> iptable, it works in windows 7, so I don't think the jack *is the issue*
[13:27] <iptable> rio_zenta: check pavucontrol speaker configuration. somwhere you will have the option to check if it's headphones, 5.1 or whatever else
[13:28] <sweta_rk> oc
[13:28] <rio_zenta> iptable, apart from that, is it possible that the firmware/drivers arent working properly on linux?
[13:30] <iptable> rio_zenta: not if soudn from speakers comes out right
[13:30] <iptable> rio_zenta: highly unlikely that is
[13:31] <rio_zenta> let me check that to confirm.
[13:33] <rio_zenta> iptable, The sound is also quite soft from the speakers. The volume is at +60% and it's "soft"
[13:33] <iptable> rio_zenta: install pavucontrol and check the configuration. also, is it still too low at 100%?
[13:34] <iptable> rio_zenta: my speakers dont' pickup properly until between 80% and 100% for some reason
[13:34] <phre4k> sorry, got disconnected. Is there still an alternate install CD for Ubuntu 14.04+ or did it get merged with the server ISO?
[13:35] <rio_zenta> iptable, It's audible at 81% now on the speakers, although for headphones the vocals are poor at most volumes.
[13:35] <phre4k> sry, found the answer already. There is no alternate install ISO anymore: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-August/035675.html
[13:35] <iptable> rio_zenta: did you look at all the configuration tabs in pavucontrol yet?
[13:36] <disturberoffiles> Hi! Suddenly Digikam shows no thumbnails or photos. I'm on version 3.3.0 . I tried reinstall digikam, remove my database, reinstall kipi-plugins but no change. Digikam lists the photos correctly as numbers in each folder, but does not make any thumbnails.
[13:38] <rio_zenta> iptable, It says I have pavucontrol installed but I can't find it in the application menu
[13:39] <rio_zenta> Unless Pavu is an acronym for Pulse Audio/
[13:39] <rio_zenta> *?
[13:42] <iptable> rio_zenta: open terminal and type in (surprise): pavucontrol
[13:42] <rio_zenta> iptable, I checked all the configurations. It is not Digital Stereo (HDMI) or Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI)
[13:44] <iptable> rio_zenta: so sound config is fine and sound is still too low? could be drivers then. if low in both speakers and headphones
[13:45] <iptable> rio_zenta: try loading windows, put sound on MAX and load linux. see if that helps. could be some silly hardwaer control for sound on top of software one
[13:45] <rio_zenta> iptable, With headphones, vocals are distorted
[13:46] <rio_zenta> iptable, i'll try that. Another question: Is a laptop supposed to get unusually hot on 1 side when using linux?
[13:48] <iptable> rio_zenta: yes and no. if it's getting hot, either 1. acpi is not working, or 2. the fans are not working, or 3. it's supposed to be this hot
[13:48] <iptable> rio_zenta: install lm-sensors and check temperature.
[13:48] <iptable> rio_zenta: you might have a windows-only laptop :P
[13:48] <rio_zenta> iptable, It says on the ubuntu site that this machine is linux-certified?
[13:50] <iptable> rio_zenta: in which case, you need to sort out the problem.
[13:50] <iptable> Is this a fresh isntall? new machine? have you tried 14.04 and 14.10 to see?
[13:50] <rio_zenta> iptable, I find PSensor in software centre but no lm-sensors (unless that is not a piece of software)
[13:51] <rio_zenta> iptable, yes, a fresh install of 14.04. I like staying on LTS, but do they backport upgrades to LTS?
[13:51] <iptable> rio_zenta: aptitude search lm-sensors
[13:51] <iptable> p   lm-sensors                      - utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan
[13:52] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[13:52] <OerHeks> including howto
[13:53] <rio_zenta> iptable, I am using PSensor, which provides a GUI
[13:54] <iptable> rio_zenta: ok
[14:01] <leni1> hello all. I'd like to make an image of my current Linux installation and all the programs I've installed on it. Any ideas/tutorials/tools I can use?
[14:01] <leni1> Most of what Google gives me is for a fresh install
[14:02] <rio_zenta> Use a burn utility leni1
[14:03] <iptable> leni1: image, as in, you want to image your installed OS on your HDD?
[14:03] <finn_> Hi guys. Any one have problem with wi fi mouse? my problem is when ill start ubuntu and my mouse's wireless adapter in usb, ubuntu didnt start, only black screen. If ill start without adapter its work fine. Anyone pls help
[14:04] <iptable> leni1: use clonezilla for example
[14:04] <iptable> finn_: so not wifi mouse. but a wireless mouse?
[14:04] <iptable> finn_: looks like a mouse issue. other USB devices in that slot plugged in and start fine?
[14:05] <finn_> iptable Yes. this trouble only with logitech perfomance mouse
[14:06] <iptable> finn_: guess what's wrong then? the mouse.
[14:06] <finn_> iptable If adapter of this mouse plugged ubunty didnt start. sry for bad english. ill hope u understand me
[14:06] <iptable> we can't help fix mice here
[14:06] <finn_> if i use none wireless mouse, ubuntu loading fine
[14:07] <iptable> finn_: your wireless mouse is at fault!
[14:07] <iptable> not ubuntu
[14:07] <finn_> iptable. but windows loading fine with this mouse
[14:08] <finn_> iptable. and if i plugged off the adapter ubuntu will start, after this i can plugged on adapter. and mouse work corectly
[14:08] <iptable> finn_: the mouse doesn't work with ubuntu properly. it's badly designed. 99.9% of wireless mice have not this issue. btw, if laptop is plugged into power, same problem?
[14:08] <iptable> or just on battery?
[14:09] <japro> so it seems i busted a linux install on a usb stick by pulling it to early when shutting down. now googling tells me i should try boot-repair. the thing is said tool gives me no indication what it is actually doing. i can run it from a working ubuntu laptop but i want to repair the plugged in usb stick not the laptops install
[14:09] <finn_> no cares battery or power
[14:09] <japro> and it doesn't show any indication which device it is operating on or any way to select or specify it is mentioned in the manpages
[14:10] <iptable> japro: data is already corrupt. copy again
[14:10] <iptable> japro: then, once you copy, run this in terminal: sync
[14:10] <iptable> that will ensure data is written
[14:11] <japro> copy again what? i'm not talking about a usb stick that was created by copying a iso onto it. i installed ubuntu on it via the installer
[14:11] <japro> also the device contains a encrypted volume so i hope whatever happened to the drive didn't obliterate that in some unrecoverable way
[14:11] <iptable> japro: do it again. and syc
[14:11] <umarmukthar> how to install latest gcc in Ubuntu14.04
[14:12]  * iptable goes for a break
[14:12] <japro> iptable, do what again?
[14:13] <elichai2> hey
[14:14] <elichai2> i have a problem
[14:14] <pbx> elichai2, jump right into the details, with plenty of context
[14:15] <elichai2> i rebooted my laptop and everything look weird
[14:15] <elichai2> like Unity changed it's style&fonts
[14:15] <elichai2> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-12-22_16_12_14-8GbB9Bmr.1419257607.png
[14:16] <jmacdonald> the service "procps" never actually starts or stops does it?
[14:16] <elichai2> sorry i left
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[14:16] <elichai2> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-12-22_16_13_37-CTPTNVMi.1419257638.png
[14:17] <elichai2> pbx,
[14:17] <_Trullo> is it possible to change google to not move up to the url bar when starting to type something (search)
[14:18] <_Trullo> I find it very annoying
[14:19] <elichai2> pbx, ?
[14:19] <elichai2> someone?
[14:23] <EriC^^> elichai2: what do you mean?
[14:23] <EriC^^> elichai2: that's chrome, the fonts are different than unity in it
[14:23] <elichai2> EriC^^, it's not just chrome
[14:23] <elichai2> everything is diffrent
[14:23] <elichai2> *different
[14:23] <elichai2> EriC^^, look: http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot_from_2014-12-22_16_13_37-CTPTNVMi.1419257638.png
[14:24] <elichai2> this is xchat-GNOME
[14:25] <Chuck_Norris> elichai2: seems like it is running under wine -.-
[14:25] <elichai2> it's not!
[14:26] <elichai2> i tired using unity-tweak-tool to reset the theme, fonts, etc. i'll now reboot and check if it worked
[14:29] <anonymous_> ahoj
[14:29] <elichai2> fixed :)
[14:29] <elichai2> Chuck_Norris, EriC^^, :)
[14:29] <anonymous_> eu
[14:29] <elichai2> thanks
[14:29] <anonymous_> cyech republik
[14:30] <anonymous_> help
[14:30] <anonymous_> pokec
[14:31] <hadifarn_> how can I copy a folder into /dir1/*/dir2 ?
[14:31] <Chuck_Norris> elichai2: xD i don't deserve any credit, it was EriC^^
[14:31] <hadifarn_> which means I want to copy to every folder that has dir2
[14:31] <elichai2> lol, he did nothing either but still thanks :)
[14:31] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: hmm? i didn't say anything either :D
[14:31] <elichai2> *neither
[14:31] <hadifarn_> e.g.  /dir1/12/dir2
[14:32] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: it's xmas time
[14:32] <EriC^^> thanks for everyoooooooooooneeeeeee
[14:32] <EriC^^> :P
[14:32] <Chuck_Norris> i know EriC^^ just saying :p happy chrismas to everyone :D
[14:34] <japro> sigh, so it finds he luks header thingy but when i try to open it it errors with "Requested offset is beyond real size of device /dev..."
[14:36] <japro> hrmf, this really makes me question the viability of having a encrypted setup on a usb drive if it's so easy to obliterate
[14:36] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: for i in /dir1/*/dir2; do cp -r c $i; done
[14:36] <EriC^^> ( replace c with the dir you want to copy )
[14:37] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: so I copy this exact command? even keep the * ?
[14:37] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: for i in /dir1/*/dir2; do cp -r /path/to/source $i; done
[14:37] <EriC^^> yes the * is needed
[14:37] <hadifarn_> cheers EriC^^
[14:43] <rubick> I'm trying to switch from using ntpd to openntpd. When I try to start openntpd I get a permissions issue. I'm guessing there's some residual files from ntpd causing conflict, but I'm not sure where.
[14:51] <rubick> I got it. it was apparmor causing havoc.
[14:53] <ararob> can i disable a repo temporarely without deleting it?
[14:55] <tekkbuzz> ararob: comment it out, or if it's in sources.list.d rename it somehthing.repo.bak
[14:55] <ararob> right thnx
[14:55] <dgelling> Hi, so I have some odd behaviour of tar under ubuntu 12.04 I don't quite understand. I've got a folder with symlinks, but want to include them as copies instead (for windows). When I provide the -h option however, it seems to include the files as hardlinks instead which shows up under windows as empty files. So it seems that the -h option doesn't do quite what it says in the man page, or what am I missing?
[14:55] <BluesKaj_> ararob, yes, open /etc/apt/sources.list with root permissions and place a # in front of the repos deb url , it's also aka "commenting a line"
[14:55] <hadifarn_> that didn't work EriC^^
[14:55] <Frank_Leach> Hola....
[14:55] <hadifarn_> https://gist.github.com/2f29e76f3ed74484e0da
[14:56] <Frank_Leach> Having trouble with my laptop...when it multitasks with too many things it shuts down. Is there a command to check what the problem is?
[14:56] <tekkbuzz> ararob: don't forget to run update after you change it.
[14:56] <ararob> tekkbuzz, ok
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> Frank_Leach, overheating perhaps?
[14:57] <Frank_Leach> Yes, perhaps..
[14:57] <Frank_Leach> My Ram is low, i ordered an upgrade set.
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> what do have now memorywise?
[14:58] <Frank_Leach> I use an old Dell Inspiron 1525, ram is only 2gb
[14:58] <Frank_Leach> upgrading to 4gb, sadly the maximum
[14:58] <BluesKaj_> that will help some, not a cure tho
[14:59] <Frank_Leach> any tips Blue?
[14:59] <Frank_Leach> Someone mentioned clean the fan out...never did it in 6 years I own it. That an option?
[15:00] <fedorafan> Frank_Leach sure
[15:01] <BluesKaj_> if you don't need fancy graphics then using the minimum desktop effects or none at all can help
[15:01] <ararob> tekkbuzz, it worked >)
[15:01] <BluesKaj_> Frank_Leach, yes , by all means if you can clean the cpu ..absolutely
[15:01] <hadifarn_> this script copies the actual 'builder' folder into /var/www/camva/public/upload/user/*/editor/  i.e. /var/www/camva/public/upload/user/82/editor/builder
[15:02] <hadifarn_> https://gist.github.com/2f29e76f3ed74484e0da
[15:02] <hadifarn_> I want to copy the files and folders from builder into /editor
[15:03] <Frank_Leach> minimum desktop effects...how do i go about doing that?
[15:03] <hadifarn_> should I change copy line to cp -r /var/www/camva/public/builder/* $i ?
[15:03] <phre4k> Frank_Leach: install XFCE
[15:04] <phre4k> Frank_Leach: and use memtest86 to check your RAM for errors, I think it's even included with Ubuntu on boot
[15:07] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: it should work i tested it here before
[15:07] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: what's the exact command you're typing
[15:08] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: I want to copy what's inside 'builder' into that destination. not the actual builder forlder.
[15:08] <hadifarn_> I changed it to this one EriC^^ https://gist.github.com/91ad64f0f3ffc6b6e9d1
[15:10] <phre4k> exit
[15:10] <phre4k> oh, sry :D lol
[15:10] <phre4k> terminal ftw
[15:10] <phre4k> cu guys, have a nice day
[15:11] <japro> oh well so since testdisk apparently can't detect the size of luks partitions it just guessed 2MB which then prompted that size error. so i sfdisked the partition size to the rest of the drive and now it works again
[15:11] <japro> now i only need to fix the mbr
[15:12] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: oh ok, well glad you figured out what your /path/to/source should be then
[15:12] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: is that rm -rf ok? don't want to cockup
[15:14] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: rmdir seems saner
[15:15] <EriC^^> hadifarn_: and use "$i" instead of $i
[15:15] <EriC^^> actually why remove -r in the first place?
[15:15] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: want to keep the actual editor folder though
[15:15] <EriC^^> you're only copying the files there that are showing anyways
[15:16] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: want to delete what's inside to be sure nothing left over from our previous version
[15:16] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: where do you mean I should use "$i"? in echo?
[15:17] <EriC^^> no, in the rm -rf "$i"
[15:17] <EriC^^> if a user has a space in the nick or something it wouldn't escape it
[15:18] <EriC^^> ( it's highly unlikely he would but who knows what could happen )
[15:18] <hadifarn_> EriC^^: ok then. that removes the whole editor folder. right? cp would work?
[15:18] <hadifarn_> since the /editor does not exist
[15:19] <EriC^^> yeah cp should create it
[15:19] <hadifarn_> cool
[15:19] <hadifarn_> will give this one a try now
[15:19] <EriC^^> also put cp -r .... "$i"
[15:20] <LNU> hello does anyone know if I wanted to change motd i just add a file /etc/motd.tail is that correct?
[15:21] <Teh_Bucket> i'm in 14.04, i think this is the unity interface, whenever i hit alt, just alt, a search bar comes up, there's no shortcut for just alt listed in the keybaord shortcuts settings, anyone know how to disable this feature?
[15:22] <EriC^^> Teh_Bucket: that's the hud
[15:22] <EriC^^> Teh_Bucket: it's program dependent
[15:22] <bunvita> hello, I'm sorry for my bad english speaking. would you mind helping me about SDD on ubuntu?
[15:22] <pbx> Teh_Bucket, Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Launchers > Key to show the HUD
[15:22] <compdoc> LNU, I think thats the right filename, but the wrong location
[15:23] <EriC^^> Teh_Bucket: you can disable it in settings > keyboard, i disabled to test something once and i can't get it to turn back on though, so just a heads up
[15:23] <Teh_Bucket> ah thanks pbx
[15:24] <bunvita> I don't know what FS should I use
[15:24] <Teh_Bucket> it said it was set to alt + L but was lying
[15:24] <EriC^^> bunvita: ext4
[15:24] <digitaljedi> hello everyone!!!
[15:24] <LNU> compdoc but according to the document http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/motd.tail.5.html
[15:24] <compdoc> its in /etc/update-motd.d
[15:25] <compdoc> might not be the right filename either - my bad
[15:25] <bunvita> EriC^^ : thanks for answering, I have alwais used ext4 on hdd but I have read that brtfs is better on SDD. But I'm not sure, then should I use ext4 on the SDD? thanks for the advice
[15:26] <blackangelpr> bunvita, i am using ext4 on my scandisk extreme ssd and my  laptop its quite old Asus G73jh-A1 and it works perfectly :)
[15:26] <compdoc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/105689/how-is-etc-motd-updated
[15:26] <EriC^^> bunvita: as far as ive heard brtfs isn't stable yet, i've seen some people use ssd with certain mounting options
[15:27] <bunvita> blackangelpr & EriC^^ thanks, I'll use ext4
[15:28] <EriC^^> bunvita: look into the discard or trim stuff for ssd, blackangelpr do you use these options in fstab?
[15:29] <EriC^^> bunvita: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives#TRIM
[15:30] <blackangelpr> EriC^^,  before i fresh installed i did verify but since i install 14.0.1 i did not do it :p but it workings like magic  i am not sure if in this ver they do it on the installation process automatically need to verify hold on XD
[15:31] <bunvita> EriC^^ thanks, I believe that discard is the better option
[15:31] <bunvita> blackangelpr how could you verify ?
[15:31] <EriC^^> bunvita: cat /etc/fstab
[15:32] <bunvita> EriC^^ thanks
[15:33] <c-moi> Hi there. I've installed a 14.04 LTS Ubuntu, I'd like to know what are the possibilities for someone who doesn't see very well. I'm currently trying Orca
[15:34] <c-moi> (well, I'm trying to make it work)
[15:34] <EriC^^> c-moi: ALT + SUPER + S TURNS ON THE SCREEN READER
[15:34] <EriC^^> ( i'm j/k :) )
[15:35] <juned> any ethical hacking channel for me
[15:36] <mbalmer> 2B || !2B
[15:36] <juned> we can run c programs  in Ubuntu
[15:36] <juned> how
[15:37] <c-moi> back... xchat just seg faulted
[15:37] <EriC^^> c-moi: wb
[15:37] <EriC^^> c-moi: alt+super+s turns the screen reader on
[15:38] <c-moi> yes, i'm trying this shortcut for some time, with no success. I've tested the speackers, they are working perfectly
[15:38] <c-moi> and alt+super+s just made xchat segfault :)
[15:38] <EriC^^> it s
[15:38] <EriC^^> same here
[15:39] <EriC^^> it almost crashed right now :)
[15:39] <EriC^^> c-moi: the shortcut seems
[15:39] <c-moi> ok, glad to know I'm not the only one
[15:39] <EriC^^> glitchy, ill brb it keeps hanging
[15:40] <c-moi> I tried insert + space, it lauches the Orca configurator
[15:40] <c-moi> wb
[15:40] <EriC^^> thx
[15:41] <EriC^^> c-moi: wow it's pretty annoying
[15:41] <EriC^^> cause it keeps saying whatever the mouse is on
[15:41] <c-moi> hum
[15:41] <c-moi> at least you have something
[15:41] <EriC^^> can you disable that
[15:41] <c-moi> I'll check the sound configuration
[15:42] <EriC^^> and have it only read what you highlight for instance?
[15:42] <c-moi> another alt+super+s I guess
[15:43] <lolloandmax> list
[15:43] <lolloandmax> l
[15:43] <lolloandmax> !l
[15:43] <lolloandmax> !list
[15:43] <EriC^^> c-moi: hold on
[15:44] <blackangelpr> EriC^^,  i think its not enable do you recommend this http://ivanblagojevic.com/2014/05/ubuntu-14-04-ssd-trim-see-my-settings-first-time-on-ssd/    ??
[15:45] <blackangelpr> :O
[15:45] <c-moi> no problem, I'm on this configuration since a few days :)
[15:47] <blackangelpr> http://pastebin.com/Wwwn84w7
[15:50] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I remove list of all old kernels from the boot list?
[15:50] <Petazz> Hi! Can I edit touchpad settings so that two finger scrolling is only enabled if both of the fingers are on the top 80% zone? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad)
[15:51] <Petazz> I'm used to keeping my finger on the primary click area and then moving the pointer, but the current setting makes it scroll
[15:51] <Aaron> Petazz, what are you using gnome?
[15:52] <Aaron> Petazz, xinput list
[15:52] <zykotick9> blackangelpr: fyi, it's better to run fstrim manually then have it constantly enabled (at least performance wise)
[15:53] <Petazz> Aaron: Not sure, probably gnome. The "basic" Ubuntu 14 install for desktop
[15:53] <Aaron> Petazz, okay, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[15:53] <Petazz> Aaron: Just read it
[15:53] <Petazz> Does not answer my problem
[15:53] <Aaron> it should;
[15:53] <blackangelpr> zykotick9,  XD how to enable it on the fstab then i forgot :( cant find a straight answer on internet
[15:53] <ikonia> 7/last blackangelpr
[15:53] <ikonia> oops
[15:54] <Aaron> Petazz, gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true
[15:54] <Aaron> This usually happens when you disable your touchpad and then suspend your computer. To fix this just run this command:
[15:54] <zykotick9> blackangelpr: not a good idea... but, i don't remember.
[15:54] <blackangelpr> zykotick9, ok :)
[15:55] <Petazz> Aaron: What exactly should that fix? Did you understand what I was after?
[15:55] <zykotick9> blackangelpr: it's discard in fstab
[15:55] <blackangelpr> zykotick9, appreciated
[15:56] <Aaron> Petazz, to enable the scrolls on your Mouse,
[15:56] <Petazz> Aaron: The scroll works, even too well
[15:56] <c-moi> mojtaba, I'd humbly recommend to uninstall these linux kernel package, as Grub automaticaly searches for boot devices at the configuration step
[15:56] <Petazz> But I want to tune it: I want to move the pointer when two fingers are touching the pad
[15:57] <Petazz> The problem is this setting HorizTwoFingerScroll - Enables=1/Disables=0 horizontal scrolling when using two fingers anywhere on the touchpad.
[15:57] <Petazz> I'd want to enable scrolling on the top 80% on the touchpad, not _anywhere_
[15:57] <EriC^^> c-moi: xsel gets whatever is selected
[15:57] <mojtaba> c-moi: I am using Ubuntu Tweak, but it just hangs and do not remove those old kernels
[15:57] <EriC^^> c-moi: espeak <text> reads the text
[15:58] <EriC^^> c-moi: but running espeak $(xsel) in a script.sh isn't working
[15:58] <c-moi> EriC^^, I selected espeak for the voice
[15:58] <EriC^^> c-moi: any idea why?
[15:58] <c-moi> oh, I see...
[15:59] <EriC^^> oh wait it's working, just not if i run it from a keyboard shortcut hmm
[15:59] <EriC^^> maybe launch it in gnome-terminal -e
[15:59] <EriC^^> c-moi: nope still wont work
[16:00] <c-moi> the application need to be provides the Assistive Technology Service Provider Interface : AT-SPI
[16:00] <EriC^^> ok i got it to work
[16:00] <EriC^^> by leaving gnome-terminal open after it exits
[16:01] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'bash ~/bla.sh; bash'"
[16:01] <c-moi> bingo, xsel is not installed
[16:01] <lolloandmax> join #RELOADED
[16:01] <EriC^^> i installed xsel first
[16:01] <EriC^^> but it needs gnome-terminal to stay open after it runs
[16:01] <c-moi> I thought orca would be "out of the box" ready
[16:01] <EriC^^> brb power outage i need to go to the circuit breaker box
[16:01] <c-moi> ok
[16:01] <EriC^^> brb
[16:02] <kikko> !list
[16:03] <EriC^^> c-moi: back
[16:03] <c-moi> mojtaba, I don't know Ubuntu tweak, do you have a apt-get / aptitude / synaptic interface ? You should be able to see the linux image and uninstall them
[16:04] <iamgodzilla> uit
[16:04] <c-moi> EriC^^, wb, just installed xsel but still alt + super +s does not read anything in my configuration
[16:04] <c-moi> I've checked the Orca conf
[16:05] <c-moi> alt + super + s is the default shortcut
[16:05] <c-moi> but in Unity (LTS 14.04), alt + (right)super + s shows all the virtual screen
[16:05] <c-moi> perhaps is the a shortcut conflict
[16:05] <EriC^^> c-moi: ok this is working gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'bash ~/bla.sh'"
[16:06] <c-moi> I'll try that
[16:06] <mojtaba> c-moi: I use apt-get normally
[16:06] <mojtaba> c-moi: Could you please tell me how can I do that? (I am newbie)
[16:07] <c-moi> EriC^^, do you have for about half a second, a new term which closes right away ?
[16:08] <EriC^^> c-moi: yeah, im reading the man page to see if the window geometry can be selected
[16:09] <japro> this is odd, so i have an usb stick install that was previously messed up but now both partitions (/boot and /) can be mounted again from a different install (ubuntu laptop)
[16:09] <c-moi> mojtaba, 'sudo apt-cache search linux-image-3' should show you every kernel package available
[16:09] <japro> anyway i wanted to reinstall grub on the usb stick again so i can boot the system on the stick
[16:10] <japro> i managed to install grub to the stick but it will only boot the laptops install
[16:10] <c-moi> mojtaba, I'm using 'sudo aptitude search linux-image' to see which one is installed, I don't remember the other way to see (perhaps with dpkg-query, really don't remember)
[16:10] <japro> it seems to see the stick but claims "unknown filesystem" (ext4)
[16:10] <blackangelpr> brb
[16:10] <japro> it should understand ext4 right?
[16:10] <c-moi> EriC^^, anyway, there is no sound reading any text on the screen.
[16:11] <EriC^^> c-moi: did you install xsel ?
[16:11] <c-moi> oh man
[16:11] <japro> what are the conditions for grub to consider something bootable?
[16:11] <c-moi> xsel is manually installed yes but...
[16:11] <EriC^^> c-moi: if you open a terminal and type espeak $(xsel) with something selected does it work?
[16:11] <c-moi> I do have espeak-data, but not the 'espeak' package itself !
[16:12] <EriC^^> c-moi: it's kind of odd, it wasn't working without keeping it open earlier, and i keep modifying it to make it better and it acts out
[16:12] <EriC^^> apparently when i add a ";" it is working
[16:12] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'bash ~/bla.sh';"
[16:12] <mojtaba> c-moi: The aptitude one, gave me a list with a row of (v,c,i,p and i A) What do they mean?
[16:12] <c-moi> mojtaba, 'i' means it's installed
[16:13] <EriC^^> my script is #!/bin/bash and espeak $(xsel) on the second line, and it's chmod'd +x
[16:13] <c-moi> EriC^^, ok, i'll try that
[16:13] <mojtaba> c-moi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9597016/
[16:14] <blackangelpr> zykotick9, /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /               ext4    errors=remount-ro,noatime,discard 0       1
[16:16] <c-moi> mojtaba, uninstall all linux-image with a "i" at the beggining, EXEPT for the one you're using ( uname -a )
[16:16] <c-moi> mojtaba,  I'd recommend to keep at least two kernel
[16:17] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, keep TWO kernels; current and immediate predecessor
[16:17] <c-moi> EriC^^, ok the script does not end
[16:17] <mojtaba> c-moi: Linux mojtaba-Studio-1555 3.13.0-43-generic #72-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 8 19:35:06 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linu
[16:17] <EriC^^> c-moi: what do you mean?
[16:17] <c-moi> and I have no error, and no sound
[16:17] <EriC^^> c-moi: if you open a terminal and type espeak $(xsel) with something selected does it work?
[16:17] <mojtaba> cfhowlett: thx
[16:18] <c-moi> EriC^^, it does not give the shell back (sorry for my english)
[16:18] <c-moi> i'll try
[16:18] <cfhowlett> mojtaba, happy2help
[16:18] <mojtaba> c-moi: how should I uninstall those with i? (What is i A?)
[16:19] <EriC^^> mojtaba: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.xx.x-xx-generic
[16:19] <c-moi> 'espeak $(xsel)' with a word selected on firefox says the word
[16:20] <EriC^^> c-moi: ok, in keyboard and shortcuts, make a shortcut with this command:
[16:20] <mojtaba> EriC^^: Will it remove also linux-imgae-extra and other related things?
[16:20] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal --geometry=0x0 -e "bash -c 'bash ~/reader.sh';"
[16:21] <c-moi> done
[16:21] <c-moi> should I hear something ?
[16:21] <EriC^^> c-moi: type gedit ~/reader.sh
[16:22] <EriC^^> and type on the first line #!/bin/bash
[16:22] <c-moi> #!/bin/bash
[16:22] <c-moi> espeak $(xsel)
[16:22] <EriC^^> on the second line type espeak $(xsel)
[16:22] <EriC^^> ok great,
[16:22] <c-moi> here is the exact content of the script
[16:22] <EriC^^> type chmod +x ~/reader.sh
[16:22] <c-moi> done
[16:22] <EriC^^> what keyboard shortcut did you use?
[16:23] <c-moi> alt+super+s
[16:23] <EriC^^> hmm
[16:23] <EriC^^> that might interfere or something i dont know
[16:23] <EriC^^> try ctrl+alt+e
[16:23] <c-moi> unity ?
[16:23] <EriC^^> that's what i used, try it for testing purposes
[16:24] <c-moi> when I type alt+(left)super+s I get the 4 virtual spaces
[16:24] <EriC^^> try alt+ctrl+e if you haven't assigned it to something else already
[16:24] <c-moi> crtl+alt+e gives nothingh
[16:24] <c-moi> I don't think so, this is a fresh install
[16:24] <EriC^^> do you get a tiny terminal that pops up for a second?
[16:24] <c-moi> nope
[16:25] <hariom> When I check my upstart script using init-checkconfig, I get this eror:   ERROR: failed to ask Upstart to check conf file
[16:25] <EriC^^> i get a tiny a terminal next the the dash about half the icon's size
[16:25] <c-moi> ps ux shows that the script is still running
[16:25] <hariom> Pls note that I don't have GUI, its only CLI
[16:25] <EriC^^> c-moi: it shouldn't keep running
[16:26] <EriC^^> c-moi: check the command of the keyboard shortcut
[16:26] <c-moi> ok
[16:27] <EriC^^> c-moi: you're adding it in custom shortcuts right?
[16:27] <c-moi> arf, no, I was executing it in a term ^^
[16:28] <c-moi> sorry for that
[16:33] <c-moi> EriC^^, ok, I made a custom shortcurts with gnome-terminal --geometry=0x0 -e "bash -c 'bash ~/read.sh';"
[16:33] <c-moi> and it reads a selected text
[16:34] <EriC^^> cool
[16:34] <c-moi> (I've binded it to ctrl+alt+e)
[16:36] <c-moi> in Unity 'Super+s' is binded to go from a working space to another
[16:36] <c-moi> just like ctrl+alt+direction
[16:37] <piotr_> hi
[16:37] <demahum12> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[16:37] <demahum12> I tried everything from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/403936/ssh-connect-to-host-localhost-port-22-connection-refused
[16:37] <demahum12> ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[16:38] <demahum12> Any help?
[16:38] <c-moi> so If I press "super+alt+s" it considers it's super+s. But alt+super+s doesn't trigger
[16:38] <c-moi> demahum12, do you have a openssh-server ?
[16:38] <c-moi> is it running ?
[16:38] <demahum12> c-moi Yes I have it, i installed, uninstalled, rebooted, twice, hundred times... everything...
[16:38] <c-moi> check any firewall and if the program is listening to port 22 (netstat -taupen)
[16:39] <c-moi> check if it's running
[16:39] <demahum12> c-moi:
[16:39] <demahum12> c-moi: It's running.
[16:39] <Pricey> demahum12: Can you pastebin the output of `netstat -tnlp`?
[16:39] <demahum12> Pricey: moment...
[16:40] <EriC^^> c-moi: xmag is pretty cool btw
[16:40] <c-moi> xmag ?
[16:41] <EriC^^> yeah type it in a terminal
[16:41] <demahum12> Pricey: http://pastebin.com/PrXaQshG
[16:41] <c-moi> I'll give it a look, I need something which speack what it sees, and a magnifying glass
[16:41] <Pricey> demahum12: Looks like you don't have anything listenning on port 22 :)
[16:41] <Pricey> demahum12: Do you definitely have an sshd installed and running?
[16:41] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, meh.  pastebinit is better
[16:42] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: ? what's xmag have to do with pastebinit?
[16:42] <EriC^^> it lets you magnify a box on the screen
[16:42] <Pricey> demahum12: `sudo service ssh (start|status)` etc.
[16:42] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, nicer display for one.  I gather xmag is a copy/paste solution.
[16:42] <c-moi> nope
[16:42] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: no, it's a magnifier, try xmag in the terminal
[16:42] <EriC^^> it's part of the X11-apps
[16:42] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, ah, it's a different type of tool!  got it.  sorry.
[16:42] <c-moi> xmag is a magni.. oh well :)
[16:43]  * cfhowlett facepalms keyboard and begs forgiveness
[16:43] <c-moi> ^^
[16:43] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: hehe
[16:43] <demahum12> Pricey: As you see... http://pastebin.com/eLWcp5ay
[16:43] <c-moi> I'll try to make it work "user-friendly-ly" :p
[16:44] <c-moi> demahum12, ps aux |grep ssh
[16:44] <c-moi> and see the openssh-server file config
[16:44] <c-moi> you should have a "Listen 22" at least
[16:44] <demahum12> c-moi: http://pastebin.com/qqmMbx1S
[16:45] <Pricey> demahum12: Sorry i meant 'status' or 'start', not both.
[16:45] <c-moi> demahum12, 'grep Port /etc/ssh/sshd_config'
[16:46] <Pricey> demahum12: But yes, seems like it's running but not configured to listen anywhere, c-moi's on the ball!
[16:46] <demahum12> Pricey: ssh start/running, process 1105
[16:46] <Finetundra> where would i go to ask questions about running something under wine in ubuntu?
[16:47] <demahum12> c-moi: Port 21 is the output
[16:47] <c-moi> \o/
[16:47] <squinty> !wine
[16:47] <c-moi> ftp is on its way
[16:47] <c-moi> seriously, try ssh -p 21 localhost
[16:47] <Finetundra> thanks
[16:48] <blackangelpr> Finetundra, https://forum.winehq.org/
[16:49] <demahum12> c-moi: I tried it before you even said it. It works!!!! :D :D :D
[16:49] <stoogenmeyer> Hi, I watned to ask.. where would be a good place to ask upstart related questions ?
[16:49] <demahum12> Pricey: Thanks a lot!!! :D
[16:49] <c-moi> nice
[16:49] <demahum12> c-moi: Thanks a looottttt!!! :D :D :D
[16:49] <c-moi> you can change the "Port" directive now
[16:49] <demahum12> c-moi: how?
[16:49] <c-moi> and restart the sshd daemon :)
[16:50] <c-moi> vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:50] <c-moi> vim/gedit/ your favorite editor
[16:50] <c-moi> (as sudo)
[16:50] <demahum12> c-moi: haha... I just wanted to say no to vim.. :D
[16:50] <c-moi> no troll for me ^^
[16:51] <c-moi> EriC^^, thanks for the espeak working, still have no clue why Orca is not working. I told it to use the espeak-fr (as I'm french) perhaps it has something to do with this
[16:51] <demahum12> c-moi: heh... both vim and emacs are to professional for me...
[16:52] <zykotick9> !gksudo
[16:52] <zykotick9> oh, i guess that doesn't apply anymore...
[16:52] <demahum12> c-moi: however, this command outputs: gdk_mir_display_open Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[16:52] <c-moi> demahum12, both are good, as soon as you know how to use them.
[16:52] <demahum12> c-moi: I believe they are.
[16:52] <c-moi> after what command ?
[16:53] <demahum12> c-moi: sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:53] <EriC^^> demahum12: you're using unity 8?
[16:53] <EriC^^> demahum12: gksu gedit
[16:53] <demahum12> EriC^^: haha... I would like if I know! :D
[16:53] <EriC^^> demahum12: desktop next?
[16:54] <EriC^^> cause it's saying Mir
[16:54] <demahum12> EriC^^: ??
[16:54] <demahum12> EriC^^: gksu edit output: (gksu:3389): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[16:54] <EriC^^> demahum12: try DISPLAY=:0 gksu gedit ...
[16:55] <zykotick9> EriC^^: i don't think gksu/gksudo are the "new way" anymore....
[16:55] <EriC^^> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/ , it's a replacement for X
[16:55] <EriC^^> zykotick9: yeah i heard sudo works without problems now.. dunno
[16:55] <demahum12> EriC^^: wow man... A lot of errrors after DISPLAY=:0 gksu gedit
[16:56] <zykotick9> EriC^^: ya, i don't know the details...
[16:56] <demahum12> EriC^^: GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-tMWeTMYKGa: Connection refused GConf Error: No D-BUS daemon running
[16:56] <EriC^^> demahum12: are you on a gui?
[16:56] <EriC^^> demahum12: or tty?
[16:56] <demahum12> EriC^^: How to know?
[16:57] <blackangelpr> damccull, you see only letters?
[16:57] <maddeh> hi
[16:57] <EriC^^> are there windows and a background and stuff? or just a huge terminal
[16:57] <demahum12> EriC^^: haha... I was thinking that you're thinking of something else... Yes. I'm on gui.
[17:01] <demahum12> EriC^^: Still here?
[17:02] <EriC^^> demahum12: sorry, im back
[17:03] <demahum12> EriC^^: As I said, I'm on gui.
[17:03] <EriC^^> demahum12: ok try ls -ld ~/.dbus
[17:04] <randomminds> is it safe/good to add ipv6 ips like that: post-up /sbin/ip -6 addr add [...] - I have a /64 subnet
[17:04] <randomminds> because some of my server don't add them, some do
[17:04] <demahum12> EriC^^: drwx------ 3 root root 4096 Dec 22 17:27 /home/hduser/.dbus
[17:04] <EriC^^> c-moi: it was working before setting it to espeak-fr ?
[17:05] <EriC^^> demahum12: ok, sudo chown -R hduser: ~/.dbus
[17:05] <demahum12> EriC^^: Done.
[17:05] <EriC^^> DISPLAY=:0 gksu gedit
[17:05] <EriC^^> usually it works without DISPLAY=:0 but you got a cant find display error earlier
[17:07] <EriC^^> demahum12: try gksu gedit see if it works
[17:07] <demahum12> (gksu:3503): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:07] <demahum12> EriC^^: (gksu:3503): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:09] <EriC^^> demahum12: add DISPLAY=:0
[17:10] <demahum12> EriC^^: Whouhaaaaaa!! :D It worked! :D Congrats! You know knowledge! :D
[17:11] <demahum12> c-moi: Still here?
[17:12] <c-moi> yes
[17:15] <madm1ke> I am looking for a device like the Asus Chrombox or Minix NEO X5 that will easily run the latest LTS of ubuntu. Can anyone recommend a device?
[17:15] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, the 2 you mentioned should be fine
[17:16] <demahum12> c-moi: I'm sorry. I missed your yes.
[17:16] <demahum12> Do you remember where we have been? To change this port, or something like this?
[17:16] <madm1ke> cfhowlett: i did not find reliable flashing/installation instructions for those devices, is there nothing better?
[17:16] <c-moi> yes, /etc/sshd/sshd_server
[17:16] <randomminds> Is there a fancy gui tool that's is showing me the load of my servers?
[17:16] <c-moi> vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:17] <randomminds> and other meta data as well
[17:17] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, best option: get an explicitly supported linux device.  next best option: get a linux-friendly device.
[17:17] <demahum12> c-moi: Ok, I have the same error again.
[17:17] <randomminds> juicessh (AndriodApp) for example has a plugin, but I'd like that on the desktop
[17:18] <demahum12> EriC^^: Failed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory  (gedit:3618): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[17:18] <c-moi> demahum12, what is the command you executed ?
[17:18] <demahum12> gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:18] <demahum12> c-moi: gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:18] <madm1ke> cfhowlett: well that's not good enough. there are boxes out there that run linux with minimal to no chance of ever installing ubuntu on them. I am looking for an actual well documented and supported device
[17:19] <jhutchins> madm1ke: I guess it's up to you to document it.
[17:19] <c-moi> demahum12, try another editor ?
[17:19] <demahum12> c-moi: I'm just doing it. :D
[17:20] <c-moi> the file is /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:20] <c-moi> (tab completion is your friend)
[17:20] <demahum12> c-moi: Ok, I opened it using nano (I hope so I'll know how to use it). :D
[17:20] <demahum12> c-moi: Now to change instead of 21 to put 22?
[17:21] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, wait 1
[17:21] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, xps 13 developer from dell comes to mind
[17:24] <demahum12> c-moi: ?
[17:26] <sophocles> so PBay has been taken down
[17:26] <sophocles> the end as we know it
[17:26] <ikonia> not really anything to do with #ubuntu
[17:27] <ikonia> so please keep it out of this channel
[17:27] <Sh3r1ff> demahum12: you are trying to open a file on a remote server with gedit, right?
[17:27] <Sh3r1ff> demahum12: use vi instead
[17:27] <sophocles> ok
[17:27] <ikonia> thanks
[17:28] <demahum12> Sh3r1ff: no no, it's fine now, I managed to open it... the thing is that c-moi (as I understood) wanted to change is that ssh is not listening to 21 (as it is now), but to 22...
[17:29] <Sh3r1ff> demahum12: by default ssh listens to 22 (21 is ftp)
[17:29] <demahum12> Sh3r1ff: Yes, but now it listens to 21... That's the thing...
[17:30] <c-moi> yep demahum12, that's it :)
[17:31] <demahum12> c-moi: Ok, I have changed it to 22, now what?
[17:31] <sophocles> how do i get a printout of all the channels from xchat to a text file?
[17:32] <sophocles> from command line if possible
[17:32] <LarsN> sophocles: if logging it turned on, likely they're already in text files.
[17:32] <cfhowlett> sophocles, yep.  check yer xchat logs.
[17:32] <LarsN> sophocles: I suspect under .xchat/logs
[17:33] <LarsN> or similar
[17:33] <sophocles> ic
[17:33] <EriC^^> sophocles: all the channels?
[17:33] <sophocles> thanks
[17:33] <sophocles> well yeah i have to load them up individually everytime i  logg in
[17:33] <squinty> sophocles:  xchat > server > list of channels  etc etc
[17:33] <blackangelpr> big brother monitoring ? XD
[17:33] <sophocles> new to irc
[17:33] <c-moi> oh, auto connect ?
[17:33] <c-moi> you can right click on the channel and set to favorite
[17:34] <LarsN> sophocles: in irssi, there's a global config to auto-log any open window.  I imagine xchat is similar.
[17:34] <c-moi> I confirm
[17:34] <EriC^^> sophocles: you can have them autojoin on login
[17:34] <EriC^^> sophocles: press ctrl+s, then edit, then favorites channels at the bottoms
[17:34] <EriC^^> *bottom
[17:34] <LarsN> blackangelpr: grep  on the logs is a fast way to find solutions to problems ;)
[17:34] <sophocles> nice
[17:34] <sophocles> thanks
[17:35] <c-moi> well, orca is definitely not working. And there is no log to look for. sometimes even inser+h does not show the config window
[17:35] <cfhowlett> sophocles, /home/acerimmer/.config/hexchat/scrollback/freenode/         seems to by my location
[17:35] <demahum12> c-moi: Now the output of grep Port /etc/ssh/sshd_config is Port 22
[17:35] <c-moi> perhaps it's a conflict with 14.04 unity.... I'll try xfce
[17:35] <demahum12> c-moi: but ssh localhost -p 22 does not work...
[17:35] <cfhowlett> sophocles, of course, those are ONLY logs of my discussions, not entire channel logs
[17:35] <c-moi> demahum12, you need to restart the service
[17:36] <sophocles> hmm
[17:36] <demahum12> c-moi: nor the ssh localhost
[17:36] <demahum12> c-moi: I'll try it now.
[17:37] <demahum12> c-moi: It worrrrkkssssssss!!!! :D
[17:37] <c-moi> nice :)
[17:38] <demahum12> c-moi: Congratsss!!! You know knowledge!!! D
[17:38] <demahum12> :D
[17:38] <c-moi> ^^
[17:47] <affy> Hi, I just bought a new nvidia card (750-ti), I had AMD. I uninstalled the AMD drivers and I'm about to install the proprietary nvidia ones. However, when I press ctrl+alt+f1 or f2 I get a black screen, so I can't proceed with installation. Any help would be appreciated. As far as how I uninstalled the AMD drivers, I did this: http://askubuntu.com/a/68312 Thanks in advance.
[17:47] <EriC^^> affy: boot with nomodeset
[17:48] <EriC^^> ( maybe )
[17:48] <EriC^^> affy: hold on, someone might know a better way or something
[17:51] <michagogo> Is this an okay place to ask about a problem with an Ubuntu VM? A couple weeks ago, I made an image of my (Windows laptop) HD onto an external drive and then wiped the laptop. Now, I reinstalled Virtualbox and copied the VM data from the image.
[17:51] <michagogo> I just tried to boot the VM for the first time since then, and I'm greeted with a black screen with this message:
[17:51] <michagogo> error: invalid arch independent ELF magic.
[17:51] <michagogo> grub rescue>
[17:52] <michagogo> What might be wrong, and how can I fix it?
[17:52] <EriC^^> michagogo: when you setup the vm, did you set the same arch ( 32 or 64 bit )
[17:53] <michagogo> EriC^^: I didn't setup the VM again, I copied the vbox file too
[17:53] <michagogo> So yes, the arch does match
[17:53] <EriC^^> michagogo: the error sounds like it has a wrong file, that's supposed to be arch independent
[17:53] <MrSavage> michagogo: I'm guessing you're using virtualbox?
[17:53] <MrSavage> ah you are
[17:53] <michagogo> MrSavage: yes, I think I said that
[17:53] <EriC^^> so nevermind
[17:54] <EriC^^> michagogo: load a live usb onto the vm, and chroot and reinstall grub maybe
[17:54] <MrSavage> michagogo: if you're having virtualbox issues -> #virtualbox
[17:54] <cfhowlett> !vbox | michagogo
[17:54] <squinty> vbox
[17:55] <michagogo> Okay, thanks anyway :-/
[17:55] <Aikilox> Hello. I can not install 64 bit version on my computer. It used to work! Do you have an idea why?
[17:56] <madm1ke> Aikilox: please be more precise with your problem
[17:56] <affy> EriC^^: Hi, boot with nomodset? How do I do that? I guess I'll try.
[17:56] <michagogo> !nomodset
[17:57] <Aikilox> madmlke,
[17:57] <affy> !nomodset
[17:57] <michagogo> !nomodeset
[17:57] <affy> ok thanks
[17:58] <Jesper--> affy, hold shift down while it boots
[17:58] <Aikilox> madmlke, what details should I give? Instalation process freezes at one point. I cannot use the mouse or keyboard.
[18:00] <madm1ke> Aikilox: and you suspect this has something to do with the 64bit version?
[18:01] <Aikilox> No, other distributions do not work also on this computer
[18:01] <Aikilox> on my laptop works ok
[18:01]  * affy reboots his system.
[18:01] <k0i9094> so how do you set a swap partition like how you can easily designate virtual memory on windows?
[18:02] <madm1ke> michagogo: did you create the vm from scratch and added the .vdi disk? if the architecture is the same, does (un)checking "Enable EFI" help?
, maybe something in the bios, but I can not figure out what
[18:03] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[18:03] <madm1ke> k0i9094: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/swap#Swap_file
[18:04] <squinty> k0i9094:  maybe google "ubuntu create swap file" for a non partition swap alternative
[18:04] <HikaruBG> any thoughts on "The best email client for Ubuntu"?   I need something that has the functionality of Outlook
[18:04] <madm1ke> HikaruBG: just try a lot and make an informed decision (evolution, thunderbird, claws, maybe even mutt..)
[18:05] <madm1ke> HikaruBG: the most similar to outlook is probably evolution
[18:05] <k0i9094> squinty, i made a partition for swap when i was first installing the distro but i guess i didn't do it properly, but i can see the unassigned partition from gparted still
[18:05] <madm1ke> Aikilox: sorry, I don't understand your problem. If you can run the 64bit installation on your machine then it's not an architecture problem
[18:06] <aya_> I am looking for a forum or something that can help me learn how to use my ubuntu 14.04lts system more efficiently, needless to say i am a total noob with it
[18:06] <HikaruBG> Thanks madm1ke
, maybe something in the bios, but I can not figure out what
, I saw on a forum about IOMMU in bios
[18:07] <Aikilox> let see what happens
[18:07] <madm1ke> k0i9094: well in that case just "sudo mkswap /dev/sdaX" and add "/dev/sdaX none swap defaults 0 0" to /etc/fstab
[18:07] <Aikilox> this is very strange for me also
[18:07] <Aikilox> and very annoying
[18:07] <k0i9094> madm1ke, ok i'll try that out
[18:08] <squinty> k0i9094:  maybe try the following and see if anything applicable  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:09] <affy> "nomodeset" works, thanks. I now did "sudo service lightdm stop", then ran the installer "sudo ./NVIDIA...sh" and it says "the distribution-provided pre-install script failed, continue installation anyway", shall I continue? What's this?
[18:10] <rio_zenta> Do windows drivers affect linux/ubuntu in any way?
[18:10] <aya_> I am looking for a forum or something that can help me learn how to use my ubuntu 14.04lts system more efficiently, needless to say i am a total noob with it
[18:10] <rio_zenta> aya_, what exactly do you want to learn?
[18:10] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[18:10] <rio_zenta> ubuntuforums.org will help
[18:10] <cfhowlett> aya_, www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[18:11] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: can you be more precise?
[18:12] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, my lenovo machine is having audio issues with the headphone jack. the sound is coming out where it is soft and vocals are inaudible. I postulated a theory by asking if it is possible that a windows driver is affecting the sound
[18:12] <cfhowlett> aya_, also, lots of free stuff for each issue:  http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Magazine/Archive
[18:12] <aya_> basics at first like I have read a few forums but they dont really give me much just stats about the os. this is the first thing ive been able to download sucessfully because i get alot of error codes im not sure about and have tried to get wine and such so i can run a few of the windows programs i prefer, -__- but between the utube vids and forums ive had no such luck getting it down
[18:13] <jhutchins> aya_: Wine should be in the software manager.
[18:13] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: in the sense that the windows driver persistently changed the hardware ?
[18:13] <rio_zenta> aya_, Ideally you'd want to avoid wine for now. most software you like in windows is available on nix
[18:13] <jhutchins> aya_: Generally you want to use official Ubuntu packages whenever possible.
[18:13] <squinty> !wine | aya_
[18:13] <cfhowlett> aya_, fullcirclemagazine.org Issue #0.  download/read/learn  then move on to #1, #2, you see the pattern here
[18:14] <aya_> yea i installed it and the config for it but i says error code programs not able to be installed blah blah blah
[18:14] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, Something like that. Possibly that the windows driver is the controlling force or that the ubuntu guys are using the same driver but didn't configure it 100%
[18:14] <rio_zenta> aya_, How are you installing programs?
[18:15] <jhutchins> aya_: https://ubuntu-manual.org/
[18:15] <jhutchins> !wine
[18:15] <jhutchins> aya_: There are lots of Windows programs that will never work in wine.
[18:16] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: windows and linux drivers are completely incompatible and it is unlikely that your windows reflashed some rom that changed your audio jack behaviour
[18:16] <aya_> through the terminal, I download the information package enter the suo code into the terminals and after that it wont let me put in my password to accept. I just wanted the utorrent because i know how to use and work that one and itunes for my ipod
[18:17] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, then it is likely that the issue lives in the Pulse Audio driver. I'm tempted to update it (ubuntu 14.04) but I've also heard that driver updates can break things
[18:17] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: maybe it's a pin-layout related problem? is it an intel audio controller with snd_hda_intel ?
[18:17] <squinty> aya_:  when entering passwords ina terminal the password is not displayed... just type your password and press the Enter key
[18:18] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, yes it is that audio controller. It seems this problem occurs a lot with Lenovo machines for some reason
[18:18] <aya_> it tells me password not accepted or entered i tried it a dozen times
[18:18] <madm1ke> have you played around with the model parameter of that module? https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
[18:19] <jhutchins> aya_: What is prompting you for your password?
[18:19] <rio_zenta> aya_, You need to use the "root" password to install software
[18:19] <squinty> aya_:  your best bet for wine related issues is to join (as the !wine info blurb suggests) is to join #wine channel here on freenode
[18:19] <jhutchins> squinty: No, this is Ubuntu.  You use sudo, which requires the user password.
[18:19] <squinty> jhutchins: no me you should be telling  ;-)
[18:20] <aya_> jhutchins: ?
[18:20] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: what lenovo notebook are you using?
[18:20] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, t430
[18:20] <jhutchins> squinty: I see that.
[18:20] <jhutchins> aya_: What is asking for your password?
[18:21] <rio_zenta> aya_, let me go find you a guide on how to install software. I understand where you're coming from and a guide will help
[18:21] <artiomjar> when you do the debootstrap with package exclusion parameter, the excluded package is still not excluded. sudo debootstrap --arch=amd64 --exclude=hostname --components=main,universe --variant=minbase --print-debs utopic .kubuntu ftp://mirror.as43289.net/ubuntu/ is this a bug?
[18:21] <aya_> o the terminal when im trying to use the extracted files to enter the codes
[18:22] <madm1ke> cfhowlett: uh thanks for that certified hardware link
[18:22] <cfhowlett> madm1ke, happy2help
[18:22] <jhutchins> aya_: I don't know what codes you're talking about, or what extracted files.
[18:23] <jhutchins> aya_: Are you trying to install wine or install software to wine?
[18:23] <rio_zenta> I hope aya_ is not trying to do compiles
[18:24] <jhutchins> aya_: I don't think anyone has gotten itunes to work on linux.  There are native linux programs that can manage your music and your ipod.
[18:24] <squinty> aya_:  might also want to check out the following which displays alternate linux software replacements for Windows apps    http://www.linuxalt.com/
[18:26] <aya_> ok so at first it said i didnt need wine to get utorrent or itunes it said i could simply exact the downloaded files put the apt sudo command in and lalala it would be nifty that didnt work so i found another that told me another way and it would use wine to download the files but i get error codes wine package is installed but will not worl
[18:26] <build> join #vagrant
[18:27] <aya_> rio_zenta: got my noob face on -_______-'
[18:27] <phre4k> aya_: what do you actually want to do?
[18:27] <jhutchins> aya_: For torrents you don't need windows software, torrents were invented on linux.  There are many different programs for dealing with them.
[18:27] <squinty> aya_:  utorrent only provides a web based interface for the server edition of utorrent.  however, it will work for everyday user downloading though
[18:27] <jhutchins> aya_: For itunes it's not gonna work no matter what you do.
[18:27] <phre4k> aya_: do you want a music player with a performant library? Do you want a Torrent downloader? I recommend clementine and deluge for that.
[18:27] <jhutchins> aya_: You want to use the software center within Ubuntu for installing new programs.
[18:28] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: can I get your output of "lspci -nn | grep Audio" ?
[18:28] <jhutchins> aya_: Downloading packages and installing them is a last resort for advanced users.
[18:29] <rio_zenta> aya_, !transmission
[18:29] <rio_zenta> aah nothing.
[18:29] <phre4k> Transmission <<< Deluge imho
[18:29] <aya_> not a music player i just wanted itunes so i can use it for my ipod updates and music n such i know u can sync them but idk how to do that with this os.
[18:29] <jhutchins> !transmission
[18:29] <phre4k> aya_: you can use clementine with your iPod, too.
[18:30] <jhutchins> rio_zenta: That's the format but it looks like there isn't a specific factoid.
[18:30] <jhutchins> !torrent
[18:30] <phre4k> aya_: or Rhythmbox or nearly any other "big" music management/player app on Linux
[18:31] <aya_> ummms is there a way for like a private chat so i can take this all in without all the other clutter q\
[18:31] <rio_zenta> aya_, Personally, if you want/need software that is specific to windows, you should probably dual-boot and keep a windows OS also
[18:31] <phre4k> aya_: I dearly recommend clementine, it's a native app and as such much faster and reliable than iTunes through WINE, also it's not iTunes. I can't even believe you put up with iTunes until this point. Did you use Windows or Mac before?
[18:32] <michagogo> madm1ke: No, I copied the vbox file along with the vdi
[18:32] <phre4k> aya_: what rio_zenta says btw, but I don't think that's really necessary since there are great alternatives which work even better than iTunes.
[18:33] <aya_> phre4k: ive only had windows my entire life ive trying to learn more about the ubuntu i have the 14.04lts and this is all very new all my computer classes ive had was all microsoft
[18:33] <jhutchins> aya_: You probably need to hide joins and parts in your irc client: https://smuxi.im/ezfaq/show/smuxi?faq_id=13
[18:34] <squinty> aya_: if using xchat or hexchat, you can disable all the join/leave messages by right clicking on the channel button and then selecting Setting > Hide
[18:34] <jhutchins> aya_: The handbook should be very helpful to a new user.
[18:34] <phre4k> aya_: do you like it so far? What don't you like?
[18:35] <phre4k> aya_: I think you have to part from the Windows mindset a little. You have a package manager on your hands now ;)
[18:36] <aya_> jhutchins: handbook??...
[18:36] <rio_zenta> I must tell all of you that it is very nice to see you all being so kind to the newbie. Not all channels are this friendly. so thanks for that guys :)
[18:36] <phre4k> aya_: with Windows you always have to research your software, download it from shady sites, install a lot of toolbars. With Linux (Ubuntu in this case) you have a package manager and can search a few thousands of programs within it. You shouldn't circumvent the package manager. And you should part from the idea to find a 1:1 replacement for your Windows apps.
[18:37] <phre4k> aya_: we can help you transition. Maybe tell us all your issues and we resolve them one by one. I recommend replacing iTunes with Clementine and ditching WINE for that particular problem.
[18:37] <aya_> phre4k: haha i like this program alot and im sure after getting my ps and qs in order i will like it alot more
[18:38] <aya_> rio_zenta: -______-' lol :)
[18:38] <KHendrik> hi folks
[18:39] <phre4k> aya_: which program? p's / q's? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker so that might be lost in translation.
[18:39] <phre4k> KHendrik: hi :)
[18:39] <rio_zenta> ps = playstation ?
[18:39] <KHendrik> can anyone tell me how to start the gtk inspector already googled a lot but that just made me angry cause i still can't figure it out
[18:40] <MrSavage> should i get this repo on my ubuntu 14.10? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg/7:2.5-1
[18:40] <MrSavage> I hear ffmpeg was reintroduced into ubuntu on version 15
[18:40] <phre4k> MrSavage: what do you expect from adding that PPA? Does your ffmpeg not work?
[18:40] <aya_> lol it kinda means the same as dotting ur I and crossing your T its a thing lol
[18:40] <squinty> aya_:   <jhutchins> aya_: https://ubuntu-manual.org/   (handbook)
[18:40] <MrSavage> phre4k: I don't have ffmpeg in my repo
[18:40] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, ffmpeg has been deprecated in favor of avconv.
[18:41] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: phre4k http://www.webupd8.org/2014/11/ffmpeg-returns-to-official-ubuntu.html
[18:41] <phre4k> oh, sry.
[18:41] <MrSavage> Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet currently has FFMpeg 2.4.3
[18:41] <phre4k> I'm not up2date with Ubuntu.
[18:41] <aya_> phre4k: ur all good
[18:41] <MrSavage> should i obtain this new repo? or will it not be compatible with ubuntu 14.10?
[18:41] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, I know.  we'll see.  meanwhile, avconv is available and supported.  choose wisely.
[18:41] <squinty> MrSavage:   http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[18:41] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: sudo apt-get install avconv gives nothing
[18:42] <jhutchins> !handbook
[18:42] <cfhowlett> !info libavtools | MrSavage,
[18:42] <phre4k> aya_: haha^^ sorry if I'm unnerving, but did you decide what you do with your iTunes yet?
[18:42] <phre4k> KHendrik: gnome wiki says "To enable the debugger, you can use the Control-Shift-I or Control-Shift-D keyboard shortcuts"
[18:42] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: what does it mean?
[18:42] <cfhowlett> !info libav-tools | MrSavage,
[18:43] <jhutchins> aya_: I thought I sent you the handbook link earlier.  This is not it, but looks interesting: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/
[18:43] <aya_> phre4k: i was looking for the clemintine u mentioned but i dont know what im looking for or what it looks likr yet
[18:43] <phre4k> aya_: go into the software center and search for it
[18:43] <aya_> jhutchins: THANK YOU uve been very kind and helpful ^_^
[18:43] <jhutchins> Ah, it's manual, not handbook.
[18:43] <jhutchins> !manual
[18:44] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: i got it but man libav-tools gives nothing
[18:44] <jhutchins> I should probably install ubuntu on something so I can test suggestions and walk people through stuff.
[18:45] <rio_zenta> jhutchins, virtual machine
[18:45] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, libav-tools is the metapackage.  man avconv will get you going
[18:46] <aya_> one last thing does any one know how to change my default downloader back to the archive manager i got my resume out of my email and now it want to put everything into my libre offive
[18:46] <phre4k> jhutchins: Virtualbox? :)
[18:46] <rio_zenta> aya_, I didn't quite understand what you mean there
[18:46] <phre4k> aya_: default downloader? Let me recap: You download a file in your web browser (Firefox?), then click on it and Libreoffice opens?
[18:47] <jhutchins> Anybody know offhand of a url for a VMware player compatible ubuntu image?
[18:48] <phre4k> aya_: you can change the default action for downloaded files in firefox with Menu → Preferences → Applications
[18:48] <KHendrik> phre4k, yeah i read the wiki but nothing i read works on my machine for whatever reason
[18:48] <jhutchins> aya_: In your file manager you can right-click a file and change the program associated with it.
[18:48] <phre4k> jhutchins: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[18:48] <phre4k> jhutchins: seems like any ISO is compatible
[18:49] <aya_> jhutchins: yea so i downloaded my resume from my email and had it open in libreoffice and now with like pictures and such it wants to open it in that i tried opening it in the archive manager which i can open manually but says file not found when trying to open it when changing the thing
[18:50] <rio_zenta> jhutchins, the normal ubuntu .iso should work in VMWare
[18:50] <phre4k> WTF NETWORK MANAGER 1.0 IS OUT; WHAT YEAR IS IT?
[18:50] <phre4k> sry for capslock, but I'm quite a bit excited :D
[18:51] <rio_zenta> aya_, When you click "Open with" the file is saved temporarily. Try looking below "Open with" to see an option called "Save ...". Use that to save files
[18:51] <aya_> ^^^^what is that
[18:51] <jhutchins> rio_zenta: There are pre-built images that you can just open in VMware.
[18:51] <phre4k> aya_: so you want to open pictures with the archive manager? You know the archive manager is for archives (ZIP, RAR, 7Z), right?
[18:51] <aya_> rio_zenta: trust me i dont always want to look at what i do twice lmao
[18:52] <phre4k> aya_: your browser is Firefox, right? Did you try my solution?
 aya_: you can change the default action for downloaded files in firefox with Menu → Preferences → Applications
[18:52] <phre4k> (menu = the hamburger in the top right corner of firefox)
[18:53] <jhutchins> rio_zenta: Although it would probably be useful for me to actually run the installer.
[18:53] <aya_> well like downloading them its nice when the go there so i dont have to dig through stuff
[18:53] <phre4k> jhutchins: installing Ubuntu takes 10 minutes, you will be searching longer for a VMWare image
[18:54] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, https://pastee.org/6brht . apologies for the delay, was doing a backup
[18:54] <aya_> phre4k: lol im not tthhhhhaaaat bad im an early 20 yr old
[18:54] <blackangelpr> for vmware its better to use x86  if not mistaken
[18:54] <phre4k> aya_: sorry :)
[18:55] <rio_zenta> no 64-bit support for vmware?
[18:55] <jhutchins> blackangelpr: Yeah, player is a 32b environment even on a 64b host.
[18:56] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: i would i find this package myself and find out myself what to man?
[18:56] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, apt-cache show libav-tools will give an extended description
[18:56] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: thanks for that
[18:56] <aya_> phre4k: ummm what do i do after i open the application thing
[18:56] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: I never know about apt-cache show
[18:56] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, happy2show
[18:57] <cfhowlett> *happy2help*
[18:57] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: how did you find that command?
[18:57] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: i mean learn
[18:57] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, man apt           will give you all kinds of tricks!
[18:58] <rio_zenta> MrSavage, those are CLI commands. quite powerful (used by server administrators)
[18:58] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: apt-cache show still doesn't show what commands come with libav-tools
[18:58] <phre4k> aya_: you scroll to the file type you want to not be associated with libreoffice and choose the action you want to do.
[18:58] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, now you know the package names.  man "packagename" for details
[18:58] <phre4k> aya_: if you want files to always download to the Downloads folder, you can set this in the tab "General"
[18:58] <phre4k> (just like with Windows btw)
[18:59] <MrSavage> cfhowlett: but apt-cache show doesn't show a field explaining that avconv is a command
[19:00] <MrSavage> it just says the package contains avconv
[19:00] <mgodzilla> i'm usin' lubuntu 14.04 radeon x600 video card.  anyone had success w/ fglrx config w/ these?
[19:00] <phre4k> MrSavage: https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
[19:00] <phre4k> MrSavage: for example: aptitude search avconf
[19:00] <MrSavage> phre4k: I don't have aptitude
[19:00] <phre4k> (or apt-cache search, but I've grown to like aptitude)
[19:01] <aya_> phre4k: ^^^^ what are these bout?? im intrigued lol
[19:01] <phre4k> MrSavage: apt-get install aptitude
[19:01] <jhutchins> MrSavage: dpkg -l <package> will show you what files are installed where.  Files in bin or sbin are executable.
[19:01] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, see https://libav.org/avconv.html
[19:02] <squinty> MrSavage:  Synaptic package manager will also display the various files installed, their paths etc too
[19:02] <phre4k> aya_: apt is the package managing application for Ubuntu. Apt does have a few frontends, both GUI (graphical) and CLI (command line). The software center for example is a GUI frontend, there's also Synaptic for example. CLI frontends are aptitude or apt-get/apt-cache.
[19:03] <eddy__> Hello
[19:03] <aya_> can i save this log?
[19:03] <MrSavage> jhutchins: dpkg -l libav-tools gives nothing of that
[19:03] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: what kind of headphones do you have? there are more than 2 types of 4-pin jacks and maybe that's why your sound is borked
[19:03] <phre4k> aya_: copy & paste? :D
[19:04] <phre4k> aya_: you mean what I just said?
[19:04] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, go to the source: https://www.libav.org/
[19:04] <MrSavage> i just find it strange how local tools can't really tell me what commands are installed
[19:04] <MrSavage> or what man to use
[19:04] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, I am currently using a normal pair of headphones that have worked properly in 12.04 . I also tested out ipod headphones and they didn't work as well. the sound is "low" and only becomes audible on the speakers above 80%
[19:05] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: so the internal speakers also produce the weird sound? not just the headphones?
[19:05] <cfhowlett> MrSavage, I agree ... documentation of this package is hardly intuitive.
[19:05] <rio_zenta> aya_, in your IRC chat application, look for something called "Window" and at the bottom (after clicking) it will say "Save text"
[19:05] <MrSavage> well i guess dpkg -L libav-tools does the job
[19:06] <rio_zenta> madm1ke, The vocals are more audible with the internal speakers, but it still requires me to increase the volume to +80%, which seems unusual as I previously used 15-20% comfortably on 12.04
[19:08] <madm1ke> rio_zenta: okay, then my thought was wrong, can't help you
[19:08] <pixelkat> can someone help me sign in to skype?
[19:08] <pixelkat> ubuntu 14.04
[19:09] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, ??? put in your name and password.  done.
[19:09] <pixelkat> skype runs super slow and tells me it cant connect when i enter my user name and password
[19:09] <blackangelpr> pixelkat, ? you have a .deb  on their site
[19:09] <pixelkat> thats what i used
[19:09] <pixelkat> the 64bit deb
[19:09] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, you didn't install from software center?
[19:10] <rio_zenta> cfhowlett, There is no skype in the software centre
[19:10] <pixelkat> i did sudo apt-get install skype
[19:10] <pixelkat> and it said i have the latest version already
[19:11] <cfhowlett> rio_zenta, false.  partner repos/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9598146/
[19:11] <squinty> rio_zenta:  shows up fine here with   aptitude search skype  :)
[19:11] <pixelkat> one time i tried to sign in and it said i was already signed in
[19:12] <pixelkat> how do i chek all running instances?
[19:12] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, so you installed properly.  ask microsoft why it's not functioning properly.
[19:12] <pixelkat> well i was able to sign in earlier when i ran through terminal sudo skype
[19:12] <ikonia> pixelkat: exactly how did you install it
[19:12] <phre4k> pixelkat: ps aux | grep [Ss]kype
[19:12] <blackangelpr> look for system monitor then  look for skype in the process
[19:12] <ikonia> and I do mean exactly - not sort of
[19:13] <LarsN> phre4k: could do:  ps aux  |grep -i skype
[19:13] <LarsN> sa well.
[19:13] <pixelkat> i downloaded the .deb from their site
[19:13] <pixelkat> and installed through software center
[19:13] <ikonia> pixelkat: right - a minute ago you said you did apt-get install
[19:13] <ikonia> now you are saying you downloaded a deb
[19:13] <pixelkat> ikonia
[19:13] <ikonia> and now your saying installed through software center
[19:13] <cfhowlett> pixelkat,  you done it wrong.
[19:13] <ikonia> thats 3 different things
[19:13] <pixelkat> the way i installed was through the .deb first
[19:13] <pixelkat> then i tried installing through terminal
[19:13] <ikonia> why ?#
[19:14] <pixelkat> and it said i already have the latest version
[19:14] <ikonia> why di dyou install it 2 times
[19:14] <pixelkat> it only installed once
[19:14] <ikonia> you didn't
[19:14] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, "only twice"?  well, then ...
[19:14] <ikonia> you just said you installed it first through the deb, then through the terminal
[19:14] <ikonia> and you also said you installed it through software center
[19:14] <ikonia> thats 3
[19:14] <pixelkat> sigh
[19:14] <pixelkat> let me clarify
[19:14] <ikonia> so why hve you tried to install it multiple times
[19:14] <pixelkat> i downloaded the .deb
[19:14] <pixelkat> double clicked it
[19:14] <pixelkat> and it installed through software center
[19:14] <ikonia> ok - so there is one
[19:15] <pixelkat> im installing through terminal now
[19:15] <ikonia> why ?
[19:15] <pixelkat> because i just did spt-get remove skype
[19:15] <pixelkat> and it said it waasnt installed
[19:15] <ikonia> you're just changing things every minute
[19:15] <ikonia> pixelkat: you said you did apt-get install skype and it said it was already at the latest version
[19:15] <ikonia> this is totally different to what you are saying now
[19:16] <pixelkat> well blame my computer
[19:16] <ikonia> no
[19:16] <ikonia> I'm blaming you
[19:16] <ikonia> what are you doing ?
[19:16] <ikonia> why are you giving bad information
[19:16] <ikonia> is this another one of your "jokes"
[19:16] <cfhowlett> !?
[19:16] <pixelkat> no
[19:16] <ikonia> then why are you giving different information every 30 seconds
[19:17] <pixelkat> im not!
[19:17] <ikonia> you are
[19:17] <pixelkat> here's what i did
[19:17] <pixelkat> downloaded the .deb
[19:17] <pixelkat> double clicked it
[19:17] <ikonia> 19:14 < pixelkat> and it said i already have the latest version
[19:17] <pixelkat> it pulled up softare center
[19:17] <ikonia> 19:15 < pixelkat> and it said it waasnt installed
[19:17] <pixelkat> i clicked install
[19:17] <pixelkat> then
[19:18] <ikonia> that is two totally differnet situations
[19:18] <pixelkat> when i checked it in terminal
[19:18] <pixelkat> said it wasnt installed
[19:18] <pixelkat> so i did apt-get install skype
[19:18] <pixelkat> now it installed through terminal
[19:18] <Buddyb> hi all, anyone can help me with ARandR settings?
[19:18] <pixelkat> and brought up a different version of skype
[19:18] <pixelkat> the welcome screen is different
[19:18] <ikonia> pixelkat: right you've installed it 2 times
[19:18] <ikonia> from different sources
[19:18] <ikonia> which is why I asked at the start "why are you installing it twice"
[19:19] <pixelkat> well what should i do
[19:19] <pixelkat> it worked earlier when i ran through terminal sudo skype
[19:19] <ikonia> right - so why di dyou then try to install it a second time ?
[19:19] <LarsN> Buddyb: I can't help, but thank you!  I didn't know ARandR was a thing.
[19:19] <pixelkat> does java have anything to do with it?
[19:19] <ikonia> pixelkat: you are causing problems
[19:19] <ikonia> no java is not the issue
[19:19] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, SUDO skype?!
[19:20] <pixelkat> is the service down/
[19:20] <ikonia> pixelkat: I suggest you re-install your machine and stop messing around blindly and try to actually work wiht people to help you
[19:20] <pixelkat> says i cant connect
[19:20] <ikonia> pixelkat: that is not the optimal solution, but it seems the only way you will stop your approach to managing your system
[19:20] <pixelkat> im tird of reinstalling ubuntu
[19:20] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, no one said install ubuntu.
[19:20] <ikonia> pixelkat: then stop just blindly doing things for no reason and work with people
[19:20] <LarsN> pixelkat: start with cding into the directory withnyour skype .deb
[19:20] <ikonia> cfhowlett: I did
[19:21] <LarsN> and use dpkg to remove it.
[19:21] <ikonia> cfhowlett: as it seems the only way he'll stop doing these sort of things if each time he needs to re-install
[19:21] <pixelkat> but it should work from the .deb
[19:21] <cfhowlett> ikonia, ouch.  that's a very ... windowsy ... method.
[19:21] <pixelkat> it has before
[19:21] <pixelkat> whats different this time?
[19:21] <ikonia> cfhowlett: its a user problem
[19:21] <ikonia> cfhowlett: not a technology
[19:21] <pixelkat> its not though
[19:21] <cfhowlett> ikonia, I was just thinking that.
[19:21] <ikonia> cfhowlett: it seems to me the only way the user will stop his current approach to using his system
[19:21] <pixelkat> i didnt do anything different this time than i have in times past
[19:21] <LarsN> pixelkat: I'm 99% sure installing the .deb actually tries to pull in additional resources, which fail.
[19:21] <elliotd123> pixelcat: when you installed from the repos, it probable screwed up your .deb install
[19:21] <ikonia> if each time it's a clean install
[19:21] <pixelkat> except this time its not working
[19:22] <pixelkat> kat
[19:22] <LarsN> pixelkat: usually requires me to do:  apt-get --fix-missing
[19:22] <pixelkat> ill try that
[19:22] <ikonia> pixelkat: http://heartbeat.skype.com/ skype status is good
[19:22] <LarsN> pixelkat: but since i've done apt-get install skype
[19:22] <LarsN> you now have two versions installed.
[19:22] <LarsN> which is the opposite of ideal.
[19:22] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, you have the file AVAILABLE in the ubuntu software center.  NO GOOD REASON to get it elsewhere.
[19:22] <LarsN> so, remove them both, and start clean.
[19:23] <pixelkat> it wasnt availble in the repos first time i tried
[19:23] <pixelkat> then i went into software sources
[19:23] <pixelkat> and clicked ubuntu partners
[19:23] <pixelkat> canonical partners i mean
[19:23] <pixelkat> and then it showed up
[19:23] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, and then you got the .deb.  Logic???
[19:23] <LarsN> pixelkat: you never removed the .deb though
[19:23] <pixelkat> so how do i remove them all and just install from repos
[19:23] <LarsN> pixelkat: cd to the directory with the .deb
[19:24] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, sudo dpkg -r foo.deb  will remove it ... but not the configurations/settings
[19:24] <LarsN> pixelkat: and dpkg -r skype-package-whatever-the-heck.deb
[19:24] <chreuben> Hi, all. I’m looking for information on tablets that run Ubuntu or at least *could* run Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet is helpful, but is there a list of supported (or unofficially supported) Ubuntu-friendly tablets?
[19:24] <cfhowlett> !touch | chreuben
[19:24] <chreuben> Thank you. :)
[19:24] <pixelkat> i just removed everything and now im installing from terminal
[19:24] <cfhowlett> chreuben, happy2help
[19:25] <LarsN> pixelkat: use the software center to install skype.
[19:25] <pixelkat> too late
[19:25] <LarsN> pixelkat: and delete the .deb from your Downloads, so you don't try to install it again later. :)
[19:25] <pixelkat> already done through terminal
[19:25] <LarsN> pixelkat: while you're at it, you might want to apt-get update
[19:25] <pixelkat> ive done that
[19:25] <LarsN> and autoremove and or fix-missing as required.
[19:26] <pixelkat> and apt-get upgrade
[19:26] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, You might want to clean up /etc/apt/sources.list       as well
[19:26] <pixelkat> ive done that too
[19:26] <pixelkat> it just says "skype can't connect"
[19:26] <ikonia> sooner you do a clean install and walk through it cleanly with us from the start, the easier you'll find it
[19:26] <ikonia> I'm not confident with your explination
[19:27] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, did you remove the old configurations/settings?  no?  so you have conflicting settings from 2 different versions of skype?
[19:27] <pixelkat> im installing java 6
[19:27] <elliotd123> afaik skype does not use java
[19:27]  * cfhowlett facepalms the keyboard and walks away
[19:27] <pixelkat> well it timed out earlier and said something about java
[19:27] <ikonia> pixelkat: we cannot help you with this random approach
[19:27] <ikonia> pixelkat: unless you are willing to work wiht people - please don't ask for help
[19:27] <pixelkat> im doing my best here.
[19:27] <pixelkat> i have been
[19:27] <ikonia> pixelkat: you're just doing random things that will cause a problem
[19:27] <LarsN> pixelkat: mv ~/.Skype ~/.dont-use-skype-old
[19:28] <LarsN> pixelkat: and try starting skype again.
[19:28] <pixelkat> flip it ill just reinstall ubuntu
[19:28] <ikonia> pixelkat: when you reinstall do nothing
[19:28] <ikonia> pixelkat: join this channel, and explain what you need
[19:29] <pixelkat> ok
[19:29] <ikonia> and people will help you get it setup correctly, providing you follow the info and do nothing else
[19:29] <lowang> can someone help me with getting back the wallpaper option in system settings ? It's not there anymore neither is it an option when you right click on the desktop
[19:31] <pixelkat> http://imgur.com/xfduqr3
[19:32] <pixelkat> i just reset my password too so i know thats not the problem
[19:33] <bekks> pixelkat: You did not reinstall yet.
[19:33] <pixelkat> i really don't want to reinstall
[19:33] <pixelkat> its supposed to work
[19:34] <pixelkat> did someone hack my computer?
[19:34] <pixelkat> and block skype?
[19:34] <pixelkat> everything else works
[19:34]  * blackangelpr is back (gone 00:01:25)
[19:34]  * blackangelpr is away: dizzy of reading (@_@) break time!
[19:34] <bekks> pixelkat: Well, since you dont want to reinstall as you agreed minutes ago, I am resting your case.
[19:35] <pixelkat> sigh
[19:35] <pixelkat> fine
[19:35] <pixelkat> ill reinstall
[19:35] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, no this is an operator headspace error.
[19:35] <pixelkat> lol no its not
[19:35] <pixelkat> i did things exactly how ive done in times past, (which all worked fine)
[19:36] <pixelkat> except this time its not working
[19:36] <bekks> And except you are using an unsupported release.
[19:36] <pixelkat> 14.04?
[19:36] <pixelkat> 14.04 is supported
[19:36] <bekks> Oh, you already reinstalled? Since yesterday you have been using 15.04
[19:36] <pixelkat> LTS as i recall
[19:36] <pixelkat> yes, i reinstalled 13.10
[19:36] <pixelkat> then did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:36] <bekks> 13.10 is unsupported.
[19:37] <cfhowlett> LOLOL
[19:37] <pixelkat> what
[19:37] <doug2> testing
[19:37] <bekks> !saucy | pixelkat
[19:37] <cfhowlett> !test | doug2,
[19:37] <pixelkat> bekks
[19:37] <pixelkat> im in 14.04
[19:37] <doug2> How would I write a custom 'hook' for upstart so that I can call a script when someoen does 'status foo' ?
[19:38] <cfhowlett> y
[19:38] <Guest26631> how do I change my name? (my first time using irc)
[19:38] <pixelkat> http://imgur.com/nYEMBCH
[19:38] <pixelkat> see?
[19:38] <cfhowlett> !nick | Guest26631
[19:39] <Guest26631> !nick Alanay
[19:39] <doug2> no upstart love eh
[19:39] <Guest26631> ugh
[19:39] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, I have NO idea what you've done but ... point of interest?  current SUPPORTED skype is 4.3 and 4.2 is UNSUPPORTED
[19:39] <Guest26631> my nick won't change
[19:39] <pixelkat> how do i check my skype version
[19:39] <pixelkat> the .deb said it was for 12.04
[19:39] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, errr, look at the pic you sent.
[19:39] <pixelkat> what about it?
[19:39] <pixelkat> i did
[19:40] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, so you installed a 12.04 version into 14.04 ... and you wonder why things do work?
[19:40] <pixelkat> i removed that
[19:40] <pixelkat> and installed from terminal
[19:40] <pixelkat> from the repos
[19:40] <pixelkat> which gave me the latest version
[19:40] <pixelkat> wait
[19:40] <nullbyte_> how can I use KDE5 with Ubuntu?
[19:41] <pixelkat> it says skype 4.2
[19:41] <pixelkat> how do i install 4.3?
[19:41] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, UNSUPPORTED!!!!!
[19:41] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, first, reinstall ubuntu.
[19:41] <pixelkat> GAH
[19:41] <pixelkat> fine.
[19:41] <pixelkat> ill dl 14.04 and burn it to dvd
[19:42] <doug2> How would I write a custom 'hook' for upstart so that I can call a script when someoen does 'status foo' ?
[19:42] <cfhowlett> pixelkat, you keep saying you will ... but you don't.
[19:42] <pixelkat> its downloading
[19:42] <pixelkat> how fast do you expect me to be?
[19:43] <pixelkat> im just tired of installing and reinstalling
[19:43] <jimmyWhisper> Hi guys, someone from Brazil?
[19:44] <pixelkat> also, this website is now beeping when someone types pixelkat
[19:44] <pixelkat> it wasnt doing that before
[19:44] <cfhowlett> !pt | jimmyWhisper
[19:44] <lowang> I'm missing "change my desktop background" option on my right click, with a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04.1
[19:45] <pixelkat> lol
[19:45] <pixelkat> see, im not the only one with problems
[19:45] <lowang> how do i get that back ? (no your not lol)
[19:45] <pa> how can i put a packet with unmet dependencies in ignore, so that it doesn't stop my apt-get every time i try to use it?
[19:45] <pixelkat> lowang, its because ubuntu sucks ever since 12.04
[19:45] <pixelkat> jk i still use it
[19:45] <cfhowlett> lowang, settings > desktop  ??? I'm on xubuntu, so it might be different
[19:45] <pixelkat> i normally use xubuntu
[19:45] <pixelkat> i think ill go back to that
[19:46] <pixelkat> except, with xubuntu its harder to install minecraft
[19:46] <lowang> .... lol, yea it use to be in the "system settings" as an option (icon) but its not there anymore either
[19:46] <pixelkat> with unity i just right click permissions and allow executing file
[19:46] <pixelkat> when i right click on the desktop i get an option to change background
[19:47] <pixelkat> brb
[19:47] <lowang> i dont anymore
[19:47] <iman> Hi, is that possible to close root user in ubuntu server, because every day i see a lot of logs hackers are trying to my server with root user and different password
[19:48] <cfhowlett> iman, best you ask #ubuntu-server    I think
[19:48] <zykotick9> iman: across ssh?  you might want to look into fail2ban.
[19:48] <phre4k> pixelkat: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:48] <iman> thanks
[19:48] <pixelkat> sage advice: reinstall ubuntu
[19:48] <pixelkat> for all problems
[19:49] <pixelkat> :D
[19:49] <phre4k> iman: set the SSH port to a different one to filter out the static noise, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin no or PermitRootLogin without-password
[19:49] <phre4k> iman: the "without-password" only allows root login with a private/public key pair
[19:50] <lowang> fantastic... can someone instead recommend me a more stable linux version ? (im new to linux and dont want any trouble right now)
[19:50] <cfhowlett> !lts | lowang,
[19:50] <pixelkat> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[19:50] <pixelkat> 4.3
[19:50] <phre4k> pixelkat: sorry, but re-installing is for newbies. You can almost always fix problems without reinstalling (unless you do something like chmod -R 777 /)
[19:50] <pixelkat> which one do i choose?
[19:50] <iman> phre4k: I have another username as root and i dont use root at all, can i do "sudo passwd -l root" ?
[19:51] <phre4k> lowang: Xubuntu 14.04 LTS is pretty stable.
[19:51] <phre4k> iman: you have "another username as root"?
[19:51] <LarsN> iman: breaking the root user is likely to have unintended negative effects on the system.
[19:51] <cfhowlett> lowang, not being able to find wallpaper = unstable ???
[19:51] <phre4k> iman: does that mean it is in the sudoers file or it's UID 0?
[19:52] <phre4k> iman: don't use passwd -l, rather use passwd -d
[19:52] <iman> phre4k: you are right, I mean i use another username to login in the server, there is not need to login in server with root user
[19:52] <lowang> cfhowlett, no I didn't mean it that way (ugh text...) there are other things happening that are throwing my experience off.
[19:52] <phre4k> iman: just disable root login via SSH, you might need that root login someday.
[19:53] <phre4k> set a different password and write it down in your password manager (http//keepassx.org) just in case
[19:53] <cfhowlett> lowang, got it.  well, LTS is not so bleeding/bloody edge, but it's built for distance and stabilty.  I've done LTS only since 10.04 without regret.
[19:54] <phre4k> lowang: please report the things that annoy you so we might be able to help you.
[19:54] <pixelkat> http://imgur.com/lO43VWn
[19:54] <phre4k> lowang: if your crash report program wants to report crashes of the crash report program you might want to uninstall Unity and use a real DE
[19:55] <ikonia> phre4k: that is not an acceptable answer
[19:55] <phre4k> pixelkat: run skype through the terminal and paste error messages to dpaste.net if any
[19:55] <ikonia> unity is a real desktop enviornment
[19:55] <phre4k> ikonia: okay, sorry. Then a desktop environment which is not exclusive to Ubuntu. inb4 Ubuntu forks.
[19:56] <ikonia> a crash report does not mean uninstall the desktop and install another one
[19:56] <Buddyb> can you guys help me with my audio? having issues when switching from speaker to headphones
[19:56] <ikonia> it means something has gone wrong - not remove your desktop enviornment
[19:56] <phre4k> ikonia: I'm just fed up with Ubuntu not contributing anything but "NIH syndrome" to upstream, other than that it's a great OS.
[19:56] <ikonia> phre4k: then don't use it
[19:56] <lowang> lol alright, aside from crash reports/errors, there are some visuals that are irking me, like windows becoming transparent except for the buttons. Multiple tabs (icons) of programs (2 printer icons in my system settings folder)
[19:56] <ikonia> phre4k: but don't give false advice to appease yourself
[19:56] <phre4k> Buddyb: do you use pavucontrol?
[19:57] <phre4k> lowang: which DE? Unity?
[19:57] <pixelkat> http://imgur.com/Bs1HZGE
[19:57] <phre4k> lowang: you might have installed multiple printer management utilities, that's not the OS's fault.
[19:58] <pixelkat> skype still ran even though i did apt-get remove skype
[19:58] <pixelkat> why
[19:58] <ikonia> phre4k: because you've installed it 2 times
[19:58] <ikonia> phre4k: sorry not you
[19:58] <ikonia> pixelkat: because you've installed it 2 times from different source packages
[19:58] <phre4k> pixelkat: the internet says Microsoft doesn't support Skype 4.2, dunno if that's true. http://askubuntu.com/questions/505810/ubuntu-14-04-1-lts-problem-with-skype
[19:59] <ikonia> pixelkat: you need to get to a known good state where you have not messed around
[19:59] <ikonia> pixelkat: I sugget you follow the earlier advice, - clean install then work wiht people to get the machine how you wwant it
[19:59] <pixelkat> humbug
[19:59] <pixelkat> bbl
[19:59] <LarsN> for what it's worth, I have skype 4.3.0.37 installed
[19:59] <pixelkat> how
[19:59] <pixelkat> did you download from website?
[20:00] <phre4k> pixelkat: you have to use this version: http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64 and uninstall everything before. Also, delete any Skype folder in your home folder (.Skype, .config/skype etc)
[20:00] <LarsN> I don't remember.  I suspect I grabbed the .deb and installed it with dpkg
[20:00] <pixelkat> which distro did you choose?
[20:00]  * cfhowlett he knows.  I advised him such 20 minutes ago .. the last time he stated he would reinstall.
[20:00] <phre4k> pixelkat: Skype 4.2 isn't supported anymore, use 4.3 as I said
[20:00] <LarsN> I'm technically on mint, which is just Ubuntu 14.04 LTS with a different default gui (which I'm not using anyway)
[20:00] <ikonia> the box (based on earlier comments and other "issues") is a mess with PPA's and version miss matches
[20:00] <ikonia> I suggest getting to a known good platform and moving forward with experienced people
[20:01] <pixelkat> fine fine
[20:01] <pixelkat> ill install and come back
[20:01] <phre4k> ikonia might actually have a point, pixelkat ;)
[20:01] <LarsN> I'm pretty sure my machine is a mess too.
[20:01] <lowang> Im using Unity and I'm sure I didn't purposefully install 2 printer utilities at any point
[20:01] <LarsN> if/when it breaks I'll just rebuild it, connect it to my salt server, and call highstate.
[20:02] <LarsN> about 40 minutes later it'll be exactly like it was before I did bad things to it. :)
[20:03] <doug2> What's the Ubuntu equiv of chkconfig?
[20:04] <pixelkat> just waiting on the dvd to burn
[20:04] <ikonia> how did you install it last time ?
[20:04] <pixelkat> me?
[20:04] <ikonia> yes
[20:04] <pixelkat> 13.10 dvd
[20:04] <ikonia> ??
[20:04] <pixelkat> apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:05] <ikonia> that won't upgrade you to 14.04
[20:05] <pixelkat> whats the other command?
[20:05] <LarsN> release-upgrade iirc.
[20:05] <pixelkat> did you not see the pic that says im running 14.04?
[20:05] <pixelkat> yes thats what i did
[20:05] <ikonia> yeah, that doesn't mean you upgraded correctly
[20:05] <pixelkat> release-upgrade
[20:05] <ikonia> thats not even a command
[20:05] <pixelkat> ........
[20:05] <ikonia> I know what you are trying to say, but this is just getting messier and messier as you share more info
[20:05] <phre4k> apt-get dist-upgrade is what I'd use
[20:06] <ikonia> that won't upgrade to a new distro
[20:06] <pixelkat> dist-upgrade im pretty sure is what i used
[20:06] <phre4k> but then, I'm an Arch user. I might not know better.
[20:06] <ikonia> that will not upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04
[20:06] <pixelkat> ok look
[20:06] <pixelkat> the dvd is burning
[20:06] <pixelkat> ill install from there
[20:06] <pixelkat> and come back here before i do anything else
[20:06] <ikonia> phre4k: what version of ubuntu are you going to install ?
[20:06] <phre4k> update-manager -d? ;)
[20:06] <ikonia> phre4k: no
[20:07] <ikonia> that will take you to a development release
[20:07] <pixelkat> creating image checksum
[20:07] <LarsN> it's do-release-upgrade
[20:07] <pixelkat> thats it
[20:07] <pixelkat> i did that
[20:07] <ikonia> pixelkat: what version of ubuntu are you burning
[20:07] <pixelkat> 14.04
[20:08] <pixelkat> straight from the website
[20:08] <ikonia> pixelkat: thats great,
[20:08] <squinty> .1
[20:08] <pixelkat> 987mb
[20:08] <pixelkat> yes .1
[20:08]  * LarsN makes a note to setup a MaaS server when he gets back from vacation.
[20:08] <pixelkat> 14.04.1
[20:09] <squinty> :)
[20:09] <pixelkat> should i download updates while installing?
[20:09] <pixelkat> install third party codecs?
[20:09] <LarsN> not going to live dangerously, and install 15.04 nightly?  (please don't listen to me.)
[20:09] <pixelkat> i already tried 15.04
[20:09] <pixelkat> and it capped my internet speed hardcore
[20:10] <ikonia> no it didn't
[20:10] <ikonia> you made a mess of it
[20:10] <pixelkat> went from 1mbs to 15kbps
[20:10] <ikonia> hence why I kept telling you to use 14.04
[20:10] <LarsN> I like the LTS builds.
[20:10] <ikonia> as you where not in a state to manage a development release.
[20:10] <pixelkat> well all i know, is that when i was on 15.04 my internet speed decreased dramatically
[20:10] <pixelkat> and when i came back to 14.04 it worked fine
[20:11] <phre4k> pixelkat: and why the hell did you use a release which isn't even half finished?
[20:11] <pixelkat> ok dvd has finished burning
[20:11] <pixelkat> because i like the latest version of things
[20:11] <pixelkat> maybe i should use arch
[20:11] <ikonia> that needs to change
[20:11] <LarsN> that's not the latest version though
[20:11] <phre4k> pixelkat: 14.10 is the latest version, 15.04 is the NEXT, unfinished, version
[20:11] <LarsN> it's not even a half baked development version.
[20:11] <ikonia> the latest version of things is not always a good things
[20:11] <pixelkat> heh
[20:11] <pixelkat> well anyhoo im gonna fresh install
[20:11] <pixelkat> be back in a few
[20:11] <ikonia> pixelkat: later version numbers are not always a good thing - you need to change your approach
[20:11] <ikonia> this is part of the reason you are having problems
[20:12] <phre4k> ^
[20:14] <aya__> any goof torrent downloaders for ubuntu 14.04lts?
[20:15] <popey> i use rtorrent
[20:15] <popey> works well for me
[20:15] <popey> they're all much of a muchness really.
[20:15] <aya__> any good torrent downloaders for ubuntu 14.04lts
[20:16] <DJones> aya__: Transmision works perfectly
[20:16] <popey> aya__: did you not see my reply?
[20:16] <aya__> utorrent?? i cant get it to downlaod
[20:16] <popey> wat?
[20:16] <LarsN> popey: said rtorrent.
[20:16] <popey> nobody said utorrent
[20:17] <LarsN> I typically use transmission, in part because it's installed by default, and I'm lazy
[20:17] <aya__> i thought it was a typo. where do i find it
[20:17] <popey> i do too on my desktop
[20:17] <DJones> aya__: Thats not a surpirse since it doesn't work on Ubuntu
[20:17] <popey> !info rtorrent
[20:17] <popey> its in the repo
[20:18] <DJones> !torrent | aya__
[20:18] <pixelkat> ok
[20:19] <phre4k> aya__: I recommend Deluge
[20:19] <pixelkat> so i have two things on my desktop
[20:19] <LarsN> DeLuge is my second choice.
[20:19] <pixelkat> examples and install ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[20:19] <LarsN> only because it requires I installit before I can use it.
[20:19] <LarsN> :)
[20:19] <phre4k> aya__: Transmission if you don't like huge downloads, which LarsN may recommend
[20:19] <aya__> phre4k: i didnt know lol
[20:19] <pixelkat> the only thing plugged in is a mouse
[20:19] <pixelkat> should i go ahead and install?
[20:19] <LarsN> phre4k: only because I'm lazy :)
[20:19] <popey> pixelkat: do you have a keyboard plugged in to?
[20:20] <pixelkat> no
[20:20] <pixelkat> laptop
[20:20] <phre4k> LarsN: do you use Transmission because it was preinstalled? :D noice
[20:20] <popey> pixelkat: does it have a keyboard?
[20:20] <pixelkat> yes.
[20:20] <LarsN> phre4k: that's the only reason I use transmission, yes.
[20:20] <popey> then you can go ahead and install pixelkat
[20:20] <phre4k> aya__: as I said, Transmission might be pre-installed.
[20:20] <squinty> aya__:  as mentioned before today... utorrent has a server version which works under linux; it can be use pretty much the same as regualr utorrent but is web based (you use your web browser to use it)
[20:20] <LarsN> phre4k: I like DeLuge, and rTorrent both quite a bit.
[20:20] <pixelkat> will it mess anything up
[20:20] <pixelkat> if i install
[20:21] <pixelkat> is utorrent available for ubuntu?
[20:21] <aya__> phre4k: 0_0
[20:21] <pixelkat> where is ikonia when i need him/her?
[20:21] <aya__> how do i do the most simple one lol
[20:21] <phre4k> pixelkat: utorrent is available.
[20:21] <pixelkat> sweet
[20:21] <phre4k> pixelkat: apt-cache search utorrent
[20:21] <popey> aya__: Transmission is pre-installed. no need to do anything
[20:22] <pixelkat> i have to install 14.04.1 first
[20:22] <phre4k> pixelkat: I'd still recommend Transmission or Deluge though ;)
[20:22] <pixelkat> i havent clicked the icon
[20:22] <popey> pixelkat: is it a clean machine or something you're installing over the top of?
[20:22] <popey> pixelkat: if you have data on the machine, backup first
[20:22] <phre4k> aya__: I think it can't get much more simple than Transmission
[20:22] <aya__> popey: that one guy said its pre installed
[20:22] <pixelkat> its clean. all info is on secondary HD
[20:22] <popey> aya__: yes, transmission is preinstalled
[20:22] <pixelkat> i usually use qbittorrent
[20:22] <phre4k> pixelkat: double check to not nuke the sdb
[20:22] <popey> pixelkat: so go for it
[20:22] <pixelkat> since it has search feature built in
[20:23] <squinty> phre4k:  have you actually tried looking for utorrent in the ubuntu repo's?
[20:23] <aya__> ok what is a good site since pirate bay is dead
[20:23] <popey> squinty: it isnt there
[20:23] <squinty> i know
[20:23] <pixelkat> btdigg
[20:23] <LarsN> I only ever torrent *nix isos
[20:23] <squinty> aya__:  definitely off topic
[20:23]  * LarsN is lame
[20:23] <pixelkat> i only torrent free stuff
[20:23] <popey> aya__: a torrent client isn't the same as a website listing torrents
[20:24] <popey> aya__: we can't help you find torrent sites, that's out of scope for this channel
[20:24] <pixelkat> ok im gonna click this install icon
[20:24] <popey> pixelkat: OK!
[20:24] <phre4k> squinty: aw, fuck, it's a server app. sorry pixelkat
[20:24] <pixelkat> its thinking
[20:24] <phre4k> pixelkat: use Deluge or Transmission
[20:24] <ikonia> phre4k: please, that language is not acceptable here
[20:24] <squinty> phre4k:  suggest you read the channel rules.. this is family channel
[20:24] <phre4k> *s/pixelcat/aya__
[20:24] <pixelkat> i dont care
[20:24] <pixelkat> language doesnt bother me
[20:25] <phre4k> ikonia: sorry, I swear accidentally.
[20:25] <ikonia> phre4k: no sweat
[20:25] <pixelkat> nothing is happening
[20:25] <pixelkat> i clicked install
[20:25] <popey> pixelkat: have you considered sacrificing a chicken in a pentagram, that helps.
[20:25] <pixelkat> double clicked, for that matter
[20:25] <pixelkat> i tried once
[20:25] <pixelkat> satan appeared
[20:25] <popey> \o/
[20:25] <pixelkat> i ran away
[20:25] <phre4k> oh my, I always confuse pixelkat and aya__ atm. They seem to have similar problems :) sry if I do that!
[20:25] <popey> so ubiquity sometimes takes a few seconds to start
[20:25] <popey> not usually that long though
[20:26] <pixelkat> still nothing
[20:26] <pixelkat> should i double click again?
[20:26] <pixelkat> right click open?
[20:26] <popey> this is a genuine 14.04 iso?
[20:26] <popey> you put on a usb stick or cdrom?
[20:26] <pixelkat> yes, straight from canonical
[20:26] <phre4k> this is the reason I always use the ncurses or cli installer if available.
[20:26] <aya__> phre4k: lol its  all good i confuse myself anyway
[20:26] <pixelkat> i downloaded from canonical website
[20:26] <popey> I have _never_ had ubiquity do this
[20:27] <pixelkat> burned to dvd with brasero
[20:27] <phre4k> aya__: haha^^ did you find Transmission yet? Also, you were the one who wanted iTunes, right? Did you try clementine yet?
[20:27] <popey> does your machine have less than 512MB ram?
[20:27] <pixelkat> 6gb
[20:27] <pixelkat> quad core i5
[20:27] <squinty> pixelkat:  burnt at a low speed?  high burns can cause burn errors
[20:27] <pixelkat> overclocked to 2.4 ghz
[20:27] <pixelkat> jk on the OC
[20:27] <pixelkat> but i want to
[20:28] <phre4k> pixelkat: don't do it, don't waste SpeedStep
[20:28] <aya__> phre4k: yea i just got it, i havent tried pluggin my ipod into it yet so idk if it works
[20:28] <pixelkat> im gonna right click open
[20:28] <ernetas> Hey guys.
[20:28] <ernetas> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent of numad?
[20:28] <popey> pixelkat: is the ubiquit process running?
[20:28] <pixelkat> how do i find out
[20:28] <popey> ernetas: what's numad? ☻
[20:28] <pixelkat> nothing popped up
[20:28] <phre4k> aya__: I _think_ it works out of the box and the iPod will appear on the left side under "devices"
[20:28] <popey> pixelkat: open a terminal, run "ps aux | grep ubiquity"
[20:29] <aya__> phre4k: out of thr box??
[20:29] <popey> pixelkat: pastebin the result
[20:29] <popey> phre4k: aya__ depends which generation ipod
[20:29] <popey> newer ones fail
[20:29] <phre4k> aya__: out of the box means that you don't have to take additional steps to make it work
[20:29] <phre4k> ^
[20:29] <pixelkat> ubuntu    6056  0.0  0.0  15940   928 pts/0    S+   20:29   0:00 grep --color=auto ubiquity
[20:30] <phre4k> pixelkat: start ubiquity from terminal, look what happens
[20:30] <pixelkat> how
[20:30] <phre4k> type in "ubiquity" and hit enter
[20:30] <pixelkat> just type ubiquity
[20:30] <pixelkat> ok
[20:31] <pixelkat> install window came up
[20:31] <phre4k> lol, just checked, it even works with the quotation marks.
[20:31] <pixelkat> english, continue
[20:31] <phre4k> good thing I double checked before :D
[20:31] <pixelkat> should i download updates and install third party codecs?
[20:31] <ikonia> no
[20:31] <ikonia> install nothing new
[20:31] <pixelkat> ok
[20:32] <ikonia> just complete the install
[20:32] <pixelkat> clicked nothing, continue
[20:32] <pixelkat> its thinking
[20:32] <mjayk> i hope its not :o
[20:32] <pixelkat> still thinking
[20:33] <pixelkat> ahem *processing*
[20:33] <pixelkat> nothing is happening
[20:34] <phre4k> pixelkat: please wait a little before posting "nothing is happening".
[20:34] <pixelkat> erase ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and reinstall?
[20:34] <pixelkat> or something else?
[20:34] <phre4k> pixelkat: yep.
[20:34] <pixelkat> what if i dont want a swap partition?
[20:35] <pixelkat> i havent clicked anything yey
[20:35] <pixelkat> yet
[20:35] <pixelkat> ikonia, where are you
[20:35] <ikonia> here
[20:35] <pixelkat> erase and reinstall?
[20:35] <ikonia> you've not installed anything
[20:35] <pixelkat> i know
[20:35] <ikonia> so why would you erase
[20:36] <ikonia> what are you talking about then
[20:36] <pixelkat> the other option is install ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS alongside Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[20:36] <pixelkat> which should i choose
[20:36] <ikonia> pixelkat: I see
[20:36] <pixelkat> im doing this step by step so nothing messes up
[20:36] <ikonia> so you're asking about a screen option
[20:36] <pixelkat> yes.
[20:36] <ikonia> pixelkat: clean install - remove and reinstall
[20:36] <pixelkat> ok
[20:37] <pixelkat> the entire disk will be used: 24.0gb /dev/sda (ext4)
[20:37] <pixelkat> click next?
[20:37] <ikonia> pixelkat: if you are happy with that, yes
[20:37] <pixelkat> do i NEED a swap?
[20:37] <ikonia> no harm in having it
[20:37] <ikonia> it won't use up much space
[20:37] <pixelkat> ill just leave the default options then
[20:38] <pixelkat> clicking continue
[20:38] <pixelkat> i mean "install now"
[20:38] <mjayk> bg
[20:38] <pixelkat> time zone screen
[20:38] <pixelkat> leave it on chicago?
[20:38] <pixelkat> or select new york?
[20:38] <ikonia> select your own time zone
[20:38] <ikonia> you don't need me to tell you that
[20:38] <EriC^^> pixelkat: where do you live?
[20:39] <pixelkat> eastern time zone
[20:39] <pixelkat> ikonia, im making sure NOTHING goes wrong.
[20:39] <ikonia> I understand
[20:39] <stoogenmeyer_> Hi, is there a way to start multiple services with one call to upstart? lets say I've got 2 .conf files in /etc/init/stoogenmeyer and I want to call 'start stoogenmeyer/*'. This doesn't work, any way to do this?
[20:39] <phre4k> pixelkat: please don't ask every single step, I bet you can answer SOME questions by yourself. Like your timezone.
[20:39] <pixelkat> well, should i click new york or "eastern"
[20:40] <ikonia> which ever you are most comfortable with
[20:40] <pixelkat> right now it says the time is 8:40
[20:40] <phre4k> stoogenmeyer_: service a start; service b start?
[20:40] <ikonia> it's your time zone
[20:40] <bonez2046> Is skype working on ubuntu? I ask as I had tried skype a year ago and it seemed kind of unstable
[20:40] <pixelkat> ok i selected eastern usa
[20:40] <pixelkat> english keyboard layout
[20:40] <mjayk> bonez2046: in 14.10 if you enable other software sources you can just apt-get install skype
[20:40] <jhutchins> bonez2046: I don't think Microsoft's released any updates in the past couple of years.
[20:41] <stoogenmeyer_> phre4k: thats not really one command (-: and I'd like to do something like start stoogenmeyer/* to start both a and b
[20:41] <pixelkat> username and password have been chosen
[20:41] <pixelkat> copying files
[20:41] <jhutchins> bonez2046: Problems are likely something other than skype, like video or audio problems.
[20:41] <jhutchins> bonez2046: Come to think of it though, I haven't fired it up on Debian in a while, I generally use an android tablet for it.
[20:42] <pixelkat> bonez2046: skype didnt work for me, that's why im reinstalling ubuntu
[20:42] <bonez2046> thanks
[20:42] <pixelkat> i will let you know how it goes after this install
[20:42] <bonez2046> ok
[20:42] <pixelkat> apparently 4.2 is not supported, but 4.3 is
[20:42] <pixelkat> so i will install 4.3 when I can
[20:42] <bekks> Which you were told hours ago already.
[20:43] <pixelkat> almost finished copying files
[20:43] <ernetas> popey: a daemon that keeps monitoring your /proc and makes appropriate numactl changes to keep your system resources utilized.
[20:43] <pixelkat> installing system
[20:43] <pixelkat> should i press skip at any point?
[20:44] <pixelkat> retrieving file 61 of 61
[20:44] <pixelkat> why? i didnt click install updates
[20:44] <pixelkat> configuring time zone
[20:44] <pixelkat> installing language packs
[20:45] <pixelkat> so far so good?
[20:45] <phre4k> stoogenmeyer_: two liner bash script? :D
[20:46] <pixelkat> configuring hardware
[20:46] <phre4k> bonez2046: download Skype 4.3 from the official website – skype.com –, the build meant for 12.04 works with 14.04+ too.
[20:46] <pixelkat> phre4k: thats what i did and it didnt work for me
[20:47] <phre4k> pixelkat: yes, because you might have had a borked system. After you do a clean reinstall (which you're doing right now), I bet it will just work™
[20:47] <ecem> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHoaeAWJy2s&feature=youtu.be
[20:47] <squinty> Version: 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1  is in repo's
[20:47] <bonez2046> hmmmm ok
[20:47] <pixelkat> lol at the tm
[20:48] <pixelkat> continue testing or restart now?
[20:48] <phre4k> squinty: rly? omg.
[20:48] <phre4k> pixelkat: restart -.-
[20:48] <pixelkat> ok
[20:48] <pixelkat> brb
[20:49] <stoogenmeyer_> phre4k: thats still two commands. I was looking for something like start stoogenemyer/* to start all services inside /etc/init/stoogenmeyer. Although now I realize thats not the way to do it. You can have one service start and all the other services start due to him starting
[20:50] <pixelkat_> ok
[20:50] <pixelkat_> restarted
[20:50] <phre4k> stoogenmeyer_: okay, now I think you should tell us what exactly you want to do.
[20:50] <phre4k> pixelkat_: wb
[20:50] <pixelkat_> ive done NOTHING except load firefox to get into this channel
[20:50] <pixelkat_> the welcome screen that displays keyboard shortcuts disappeared when i clicked firefox icon
[20:50] <pixelkat_> is it supposed to do that?
[20:51] <pixelkat_> i didnt click the x
[20:51] <pixelkat_> an icon popped up on the side panel "software updater"
[20:51] <phre4k> pixelkat_: apt-cache madison skype
[20:51] <pixelkat_> should i click it?
[20:51] <mjayk> pixelkat_: yes its ment to do that
[20:51] <pixelkat_> ok
[20:52] <pixelkat_> so ill open a terminal
[20:52] <pixelkat_> and type apt-cache madison skype?
[20:52] <squinty> eh???
[20:52] <ikonia> stop
[20:52] <ikonia> get your machine up to date
[20:52] <ikonia> reboot
[20:52] <ikonia> get it to a clean state please
[20:52] <pixelkat_> it is clean!
[20:52] <pixelkat_> i havent done anything
[20:53] <ikonia> pixelkat_: do you have ay pending updates ?
[20:53] <pixelkat_> except open firefox
[20:53] <pixelkat_> software updater icon popped up
[20:53] <pixelkat_> click it?
[20:53] <ikonia> right
[20:53] <ikonia> take the updates
[20:53] <ikonia> and reboot
[20:53] <ikonia> (there will be a kernel update in there)
[20:53] <pixelkat_> 225.4 MB will be downloaded
[20:53] <Toxmi> Hi, I want to remove texlive 2013 man path from $MANPATH but I couldn't find out where...I've checked $HOME/.bashrc, bashprofile .xinitrc and also /etc/profile /etc/mandb.config /etc/bash.bashrc but it isn't in these file
[20:53] <pixelkat_> clicking install now
[20:53] <phre4k> pixelkat_: open a terminal, type the following: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-cache madison skype → then tell us which skype version is the highest and we tell you how to proceed.
[20:53] <phre4k> no need to reboot just yet
[20:53] <EriC^^> Toxmi: check ~/.profile
[20:54] <ikonia> please - just apply the udpates and reboot
[20:54] <ikonia> get to the current version all clean
[20:54] <ikonia> then move forward
[20:54] <phre4k> *sigh* ok, do that.
[20:54] <pixelkat_> between ikonia and phre4k i dont know what to do
[20:54] <pixelkat_> ok
[20:54] <pixelkat_> clicking install no
[20:54] <pixelkat_> now
[20:54] <squinty> follow ikonia
[20:54] <phre4k> ikonia: sry
[20:54] <ikonia> phre4k: no need for sorry
[20:54] <pixelkat_> installing updates
[20:54] <pixelkat_> from software icon
[20:54] <Toxmi> EriC^^: I've check, there isn't :D
[20:54] <pixelkat_> not from terminal
[20:55] <EriC^^> Toxmi: you're not on ubuntu, are you?
[20:55] <pixelkat_> i have a terminal open but havent typed anything
[20:55] <pixelkat_> should i close it?
[20:55] <phre4k> ikonia: I'm an Arch user, I always just install everything and reboot after that. I'm giving advice on a distribution I don't even use right now.
[20:55] <ikonia> pixelkat_: it doesn't matter
[20:55] <phre4k> pixelkat_: you may close the terminal if you don't use it
[20:55] <Toxmi> not currently
[20:55] <squinty> phre4k: exactly  not the best thing to do imho
[20:55] <pixelkat_> closing terminal
[20:56] <pixelkat_> downloading linux image 3.13
[20:56] <pixelkat_> generic
[20:56] <ikonia> don't need a commentary
[20:56] <pixelkat_> well
[20:56] <ikonia> let it apply the updates, reboo
[20:56] <pixelkat_> im just sayin
[20:56] <ikonia> reboot
[20:56] <mjayk> no need to pixelkat_
[20:56] <pixelkat_> im clicking nothing
[20:56] <phre4k> squinty: why that? With Arch you don't install outdated software packages. You always do a netinstall. Ubuntu might be different, I've been in dependency hell with Ubuntu.
[20:56] <pixelkat_> just sitting here in this channel
[20:56] <pixelkat_> no terminals open
[20:56] <EriC^^> Toxmi: ok, cause ubuntu doesn't have .xinitrc or .bash_profile etc.
[20:57] <EriC^^> Toxmi: i don't have a $MANPATH
[20:57] <pixelkat_> just letting you know so later if something doesnt work
[20:57] <bekks> EriC^^: Since when exactly, there is no .bash_profile anymore for bash?
[20:57] <pixelkat_> you know its not because of me
[20:57] <pixelkat_> im following step by step directions
[20:57] <ikonia> ok - then please wait quietly
[20:57] <squinty> phre4k: this isn't arch.  get sick and tired of arch users thinking they know everything   sorry but I see it time after time.  support the system you are using.  :)
[20:57] <EriC^^> bekks: i don't have a .bash_profile , do you?
[20:57] <ikonia> please let us now when the updates have finished and you've rebooted
[20:57] <pixelkat_> ok
[20:58] <pixelkat_> in the meantime i wont do ANYTHING
[20:58] <phre4k> squinty: well, I use some Xubuntu at work, does that count?
[20:58] <pixelkat_> except read what pops up in this channel
[20:58] <ikonia> you don't need to commentate
[20:58] <pixelkat_> you should restart firefox to install updates
[20:58] <ikonia> please just confirm when the updates have finished and you have rebooted
[20:58] <phre4k> ^
[20:58] <pixelkat_> restart now?
[20:58] <mjayk> if the updates have finished
[20:58] <ikonia> pixelkat_: have the updates finished ?
[20:59] <squinty> phre4k:  I have no idea,... only you can answer that.  not up to date answers or answers that relate to non ubuntu issues are going to cause problems
[20:59] <pixelkat_> just firefox said that
[20:59] <ikonia> pixelkat_: have the updates finished ?
[20:59] <pixelkat_> not yet
[20:59] <ikonia> then no
[20:59] <pixelkat_> configuring
[20:59] <pixelkat_> ok
[20:59] <pixelkat_> waiting then
[20:59] <ikonia> pixelkat_: please sit quietly - stop talking and confirm when the updates have finished
[21:00] <pixelkat_> the computer needs to restart to finish installing updates
[21:00] <Toxmi> EriC^^: I've also checked bash_profile it's just refering to bashrc
[21:00] <Toxmi> EriC^^: you mean you don't have any output for "export $MANPATH"?
[21:00] <pixelkat_> clicking restart now
[21:00] <pixelkat_> brb
[21:00] <Toxmi> regarding .xinitrc it's bcz of xmonad...not unity
[21:01] <pixelkat_> shutdown or restart?
[21:01] <pixelkat_> when i clicked restart now
[21:01] <pixelkat_> it gave me the option
[21:01] <ikonia> restart
[21:01] <pixelkat_> ok
[21:01] <phre4k> squinty: I didn't know Ubuntu was so picky about updates, I never had any issue. I didn't ever hear that you have to reboot before installing some software, because if you upgraded and restarted the corresponding software the binary is current. So even if the Kernel or apt had an update, you're still able to install things. They might not work though, and that's the time you reboot. IF you installed a new kernel, else I honestly don't see a
[21:01] <phre4k> reason to reboot. But you're right if you say you can't expect new users to know whether they have to reboot or not.
[21:01] <EriC^^> Toxmi: echo $MANPATH returns nothing for me
[21:02] <phre4k> squinty: correct me if I'm wrong please :)
[21:02] <ikonia> phre4k: ubuntu is not picky about updates
[21:02] <EriC^^> Toxmi: that's odd, right?
[21:02] <pixelkat> ok i restarted. right clicked the amazon icon and removed from launcher
[21:02] <ikonia> phre4k: but you need to reboot to apply a kernel patch in any distro, so I'm not sure why you are surprised
[21:02] <ikonia> phre4k: why ?
[21:02] <EriC^^> bekks: i mean by default ubuntu doesn't have a .bash_profile
[21:02] <pixelkat> started firefox, joined this channel
[21:02] <ikonia> phre4k: oops
[21:02] <ikonia> pixelkat_: why di dyou do that
[21:02] <Buddyb> Hi everyone, can anyone help me out with pulse audio issues?
[21:02] <ikonia> pixelkat_: I told you to do nothing
[21:02] <squinty> phre4k:  not really interested in discussing it to be honest.
[21:03] <pixelkat> all i did was remove amazon icon
[21:03] <pixelkat> shouldnt harm anything
[21:03] <ikonia> pixelkat_: why ?
[21:03] <pixelkat> because i dont use it
[21:03] <ikonia> pixelkat_: I explicitly told you not to do anything
[21:03] <pixelkat> dont need it cluttering my side bar
[21:03] <pixelkat> well, moving on
[21:03] <pixelkat> thats all i did
[21:03] <pixelkat> sorry
[21:03] <ikonia> your on your own
[21:03] <fath05> hello
[21:03] <pixelkat> noooooooo
[21:03] <pixelkat> help
[21:03] <ikonia> I gave you explict instructions and told you not to do anything at all
[21:03] <ikonia> someone else can help you
[21:03] <pixelkat> i was jk
[21:03] <pixelkat> i didnt do anything
[21:04] <ikonia> pixelkat_: I told you not to joke in support conversation yesterday
[21:04] <pixelkat> but i do want that amazon icon gone
[21:04] <pixelkat> sorry
[21:04] <ikonia> please don't lie
[21:04] <ikonia> you removed it
[21:04] <pixelkat> ok
[21:04] <ikonia> someone else can pick up your problem
[21:04] <pixelkat> D:
[21:04] <pixelkat> come on dont be like that please
[21:05] <pixelkat> we're almost done!
[21:05] <pixelkat> all i need to do is install skype 4.3
[21:05] <phre4k> ikonia: yeah, that's what I said. I still don't get why you need to boot from the new Kernel before installing sk... nevermind.
[21:05] <pixelkat> but im not clicking or doing anyhthing
[21:05] <linuxlover> someone here last night told me about installing virtual machine
[21:05] <ikonia> phre4k: because it makes sure everything is current
[21:05] <linuxlover> but i Need help!
[21:05] <ikonia> phre4k: including dependencies that packages may need/want
[21:05] <mjayk> linuxlover: just ask the question :)
[21:05] <pixelkat> ok, everything is current
[21:05] <linuxlover> mjayk:  i dont know how to install it
[21:06] <pixelkat> clean install, fresh reboot
[21:06] <linuxlover> i cannot find it
[21:06] <mjayk> linuxlover: how to install what
[21:06] <pixelkat> now what
[21:06] <linuxlover> the VM
[21:06] <linuxlover> my goal is to install windows on my lubuntu
[21:06] <susl> Question: Why are CDs/DVDs bootable by default if you burn img-files on it? Why not USB-flash?
[21:06] <ikonia> linuxlover: boot from windows install media
[21:06] <theadmin> linuxlover: Get Virtualbox, get a Windows DVD or ISO
[21:06] <ikonia> linuxlover: job done
[21:06] <mjayk> linuxlover: what theadmin said
[21:06] <linuxlover> i cannot find virtualbox
[21:06] <pixelkat> can someone help me install skype 4.3 please?
[21:06] <ikonia> ahh virtual box
[21:06] <pixelkat> im on fresh install
[21:06] <theadmin> linuxlover: Eh? Just "sudo apt-get install virtualbox"
[21:07] <ikonia> sorry, missunderstood
[21:07] <pixelkat> ive done nothing, installed nothing
[21:07] <linuxlover> oh
[21:07] <pixelkat> CLEAN
[21:07] <theadmin> pixelkat: Please see the private message window, I'll try to help
[21:07] <mjayk> pixelkat: what version of ubuntu are you running
[21:07] <pixelkat> ok thanks
[21:07] <linuxlover> i entered the command theadmin  "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable"
[21:07] <linuxlover> :(
[21:07] <pixelkat> 14.04.1
[21:07] <EriC^^> linuxlover: is the software center open?
[21:07] <theadmin> linuxlover: Buh. Are you running a system update of some sort?
[21:08] <linuxlover> im not sure what you mean!
[21:08] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  you mean.. the synaptic package manager?
[21:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: are you usign the software center to install something else?
[21:08] <linuxlover> it's opened
[21:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no, but that too
[21:08] <squinty> linuxlover:  look in your software installer (or whatever) and notice that there are two versions of virtualbox available.... orcale or the open source one.   personally I prefer the orcale version.  both can be installed via the repo's though
[21:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: close all the package software you have open and try again
[21:08] <mjayk> pixelkat: go to software & upates
[21:09] <mjayk> pixelkat: click other software then click canonical partners
[21:09] <linuxlover> EriC^^: i closed it and now it gives me... "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[21:09] <EriC^^> linuxlover: type sudo apt-get -f install
[21:09] <mjayk> pixelkat: click ok t hen in a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[21:09] <mjayk> pixelkat: done
[21:09] <linuxlover> done EriC^^
[21:10] <EriC^^> linuxlover: did it give you any thing?
[21:10] <EriC^^> did it fix stuff?
[21:10] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded."
[21:10] <linuxlover> that's what your command gave me
[21:10] <pixelkat> ikonia
[21:10] <pixelkat> i still havent done anything, please help
[21:10] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, what's the error when you install virtualbox?
[21:10] <EriC^^> linuxlover: if you need to paste use paste.ubuntu.com
[21:10] <ikonia> pixelkat: no
[21:11] <linuxlover> oh hold on
[21:11] <EriC^^> linuxlover: paste the whole output
[21:11] <pixelkat> please?
[21:11] <pixelkat> we've come so far
[21:11] <pixelkat> ive done everything ive been asked
[21:11] <mjayk> pixelkat: ive told you how to complete your task please stop spamming
[21:11] <pixelkat> im trying to follow one voice
[21:11] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i'll paste two different one, one for the install and one for the command you gave me
[21:11] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599080/
[21:12] <pixelkat> i didnt see your advice
[21:12] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599089/ EriC^^
[21:12] <pixelkat> mjayk, how do i install skype 4.3
[21:12] <mjayk> scroll up and read pixelkat
[21:12] <pixelkat> ikonia was helping me, but chose not to since i removed the amazon icon
[21:13] <EriC^^> linuxlover: type sudo apt-get install libgsoap5
[21:13] <pixelkat> skype is not available
[21:13] <pixelkat> in the repos
[21:13] <bekks> pixelkat: He chose to not help you anymore because you lied and did not follow what you have been told to do.
[21:13] <mjayk> pixelkat: go to software & upates
[21:13] <mjayk> pixelkat: click other software then click canonical partners
[21:13] <mjayk> pixelkat: click ok t hen in a terminal sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[21:13] <pixelkat> no, even before i said i was jk about removing the icon
[21:13] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  done shoudl i paste that output ?
[21:13] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yes please
[21:14] <pixelkat> ok mjayk ill do it
[21:14] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599107/
[21:14] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[21:15] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  still gives me the same error as before
[21:15] <mjayk> does anyone know how to make alt tab show all windows from all virtual desktops in unity ?
[21:15] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599116/
[21:15] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it's odd that it installed it with no problems, and the i386
[21:15] <pixelkat> OK
[21:15] <pixelkat> i went to software sources
[21:15] <pixelkat> clicked on partners (not the source code one)
[21:16] <pixelkat> now im in terminal
[21:16] <pixelkat> did sudo apt-get update
[21:16] <EriC^^> linuxlover: you have 14.10?
[21:16] <EriC^^> 32 bit?
[21:16] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  you mean lubuntu version?
[21:16] <linuxlover> I'm on 64 bit machine
[21:16] <pixelkat> skype has shown itself in the software center
[21:16] <dgarstang> What's the ubuntu equiv of chkconfig to make an rc script start on boot?
[21:17] <pixelkat> skype 4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1
[21:17] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, that's odd it installed the i386 version
[21:17] <rberg-> update-rc.d
[21:17] <linuxlover> I found those files in synapatic manager but it says "fix broken packages first!"
[21:17] <dgarstang> rberg-: Did that. no effect
[21:17] <pixelkat> eric, when i tried sudo apt-get install skype from terminal it installed i386 version also
[21:17] <pixelkat> ok should i install skype from terminal or software center?
[21:17] <theadmin> pixelkat: That's normal, Microsoft was too lazy to make a 64-bit version
[21:17] <dgarstang> rberg-: sudo update-rc.d slice-dme defaults ... nada
[21:17] <pixelkat> oh ok
[21:17] <theadmin> pixelkat: So it just pulls in the 32-bit one.
[21:17] <mjayk> pixelkat: i said sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[21:18] <pixelkat> mjayk, just making sure.
[21:18] <Buddyb> Hi. I just did a fresh install of lubuntu (nobody in that channel) and I am having issues with my audio. I have pulseaudio and pavucontrol. Everything works fine with the speakers, internal laptop mic. When I plug in the headphone/microphone I have issues. The sounds continues to come out of the laptop speakers. Any help would be greatly appreciated
[21:18] <EriC^^> theadmin: ? i have a amd64 one
[21:18] <EriC^^> theadmin: pool/partner/s/skype/skype_4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[21:18] <theadmin> EriC^^: skype:amd64 just pulls in skype:i386 as a dependency as well as a ton of other weird stuff
[21:18] <pixelkat> closed software center. back in terminal, typing sudo apt-get install skype (already did apt-get update)
[21:18] <mjayk> Buddyb: usb headphone and mic or audio jack ?
[21:19] <pixelkat> 230mb of additional disk space will be used
[21:19] <pixelkat> clicking "y"
[21:19] <Buddyb> mjayk: headphone plugged to microphone, microphone plugged to laptop via usb
[21:19] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  so does this mean i have to reinstall lubuntu?
[21:19] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no
[21:20] <mjayk> Buddyb: just try pulseaudio -k in console after you plug them in
[21:20] <aya_>  (MPEG-4 AAC decoder plugin ) umm what don i need for ubuntu for these??
[21:20] <EriC^^> !info libgsoap5
[21:20] <pixelkat> skype is installing.
[21:20] <theadmin> pixelkat: Yay! Glad it worked
[21:21] <pixelkat> ok, install finished in terminal
[21:21] <pixelkat> should i open skype from terminal or through launcher?
[21:21] <mjayk> aya_: should be in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:21] <theadmin> pixelkat: Doesn't matter. Try terminal so that you can see the debug output though if any
[21:21] <aya_> mjayk: ` im new i have no idea
[21:21] <pixelkat> OK
[21:22] <pixelkat> sudo or no?
[21:22] <mjayk> aya_: ok open a terminal
[21:22] <mjayk> pixelkat: if sudo apt-get install skype has finished
[21:22] <aya_> k
[21:22] <theadmin> pixelkat: Just "skype"
[21:22] <pixelkat> ok
[21:22] <mjayk> pixelkat: just type skype into a terminal or dash
[21:22] <mjayk> aya_: type in sudo apt-get update
[21:22] <theadmin> pixelkat: "sudo" is for running stuff as administrator, that's dangerous to do with apps not designed for that
[21:22] <pixelkat> typed skype in terminal
[21:22] <mjayk> aya_:  then let me know when its finished
[21:22] <pixelkat> accepting terms of use
[21:22] <pixelkat> on skype
[21:23] <pixelkat> jesus
[21:23] <pixelkat> it worked
[21:23] <theadmin> Wooo!
[21:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:23] <linuxlover> that generated a big list
[21:23] <linuxlover> pastebin it?
[21:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: i'm out of ideas, i'm googling here.. re-ask your question and others might respond
[21:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah
[21:24] <aya_> mjayk: oktays it finshed
[21:24] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599158/
[21:24] <mjayk> aya_: now type in sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:24] <linuxlover> no problem EriC^^
[21:24] <linuxlover> I have all day to figure this out :)
[21:24] <mjayk> aya_: that is a package containing a number of non-free codecs
[21:24] <pixelkat> im installing restricted extras also.
[21:25] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: linuxlover I think yoiu are in the right path, a VM installed from PPA ?? look at sources ,, see what 'apt-cache policy virtualbox' relates ?
[21:25] <pixelkat> ikonia
[21:25] <pixelkat> skype is working.
[21:25] <aya_> mjayk: umm whats that...lol -______-' sorry for meh nooobness
[21:25] <pixelkat> not that you care, but i wanted to say it anyway
[21:26] <mjayk> aya_: its a package that contains a number of non free codecs etc, things that are not open source
[21:26] <aya_> mjayk: whats a codec
[21:27] <mjayk> aya_: a codec decodes media like it is a bit of software that enables a music player to "understand" what the data in a .mp3 for instance means
[21:27] <EriC^^> linuxlover: please can you pastebin apt-cache policy virtualbox ?
[21:27] <mjayk> i "think"
[21:28] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: good thinking
[21:28] <EriC^^> !info virtualbox
[21:28] <davidfetter_fbn> hello
[21:28] <linuxlover> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599181/
[21:28] <aya_> mjayk: oooo )_) thank you lol :)
[21:28] <EriC^^> linuxlover: can you pastebin cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ?
[21:29] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: ^^ bingo
[21:29] <linuxlover> with the asterisk?
[21:29] <linuxlover> *
[21:29] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yes
[21:29] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599191/
[21:29] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: : ) now the fun begins. Sometimnes easy, most times not to get rid of that 3rd party stuff .
[21:30] <EriC^^> hehe yeah it certainly looks like it
[21:30] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Might be easy with ppa-purge ??
[21:30] <Zeke> can you guys see this?
[21:30] <Zeke> hello?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Zeke: Yepper, you are on .
[21:31] <Zeke> I'm using irssi i can only see one line of chat text, lol
[21:31] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: linuxlover it looks like virtualbox is coming from the xorg-edgers ppa
[21:31] <EriC^^> isn't that needed for graphics drivers and such?
[21:31] <linuxlover> not sure what that means :X
[21:31] <pixelkat> would anyone care to help me get minecraft working on ubuntu 14.04.1?
[21:32] <Bashing-om> Zeke: Not good .. For irssi issues, /join #irssi .. good help/guidance there .
[21:32] <Zeke> wow thanks man
[21:32] <aya_> mjayk: how do i click ok at the end of it
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[21:32] <unopaste> Aol-Paperboy you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[21:33] <mjayk> aya_: use tab and enter
[21:33] <mjayk> pixelkat: http://www.howtogeek.com/198476/how-to-install-minecraft-on-ubuntu-or-any-other-linux-distribution/
[21:33] <EriC^^> linuxlover: do you need those ppa's ?
[21:33] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: linuxlover .. Yeah, " xorg-edgers ppa" is for a graphics driver. OH boy this may get funner .
[21:34] <linuxlover> is it graphics driver for my graphics card?
[21:34] <Zeke_> hmm
[21:34] <Zeke_> test
[21:35] <pixelkat> thanks!
[21:35] <pixelkat> i <3 webupd8
[21:36] <linuxlover> would removing those files render my graphics card unsable?
[21:36] <mjayk> appologies i closed my irssi by mistake
[21:36] <EriC^^> dpkg -l | awk '/ii/ {print$2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep xorg-edger
[21:37] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: EriC^^ :; slowly, a step at a time . linuxlover show us : cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list | pastebinit .
[21:37] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ^^ that should list any installed packages that are using the xorg-edger ppa
[21:38] <EriC^^> ( i think )
[21:38] <linuxlover> Bashing-om:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599230/
[21:38] <EriC^^> hold on
[21:38] <Zeke> solved my problem, just switched to weechat instead of irssi, lmao
[21:38] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599230/ .
[21:38] <EriC^^> linuxlover: dpkg -l | awk '/ii/ {print$2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 xorg-edger
[21:39] <aya__> mjayk:the audio plays but says im still missing codecs
[21:39] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i ran that
[21:39] <linuxlover> huge output
[21:39] <linuxlover> pastebin it?
[21:40] <mjayk> aya__: what codecs specifically do you know ?
[21:40] <EriC^^> linuxlover: why'd you install the ppa to begin with?
[21:40] <aya__> mjayk: none...
[21:40] <EriC^^> linuxlover: i think it would have updated many packages you had with a dist-upgrade
[21:40] <linuxlover> i am not sure EriC^^  , i was playing steam but uninstalled it
[21:40] <EriC^^> linuxlover: do you need it for graphics to work?
[21:40] <mjayk> aya__: it says you are missing no codecs? sorry I dont understand :)
[21:40] <linuxlover> no
[21:41] <aya__> mjayk: ummm im not sure which ones it just says u can get these codecs online. i have downloaded movied and thanks to u :) the audio plays through but no visual
[21:41] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: eric; steam is still active for "precise" !! We sure need to get rid of it .
[21:42] <linuxlover> ok lets get rid of steam
[21:42] <mjayk> aya__: what type of file is it ?
[21:43] <aya__> mjayk: mp4
[21:43] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: ppa-purge?
[21:43] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: EriC^^ :: stam removeal, never been there, No idea how it is done ( non native to ubuntu in 12.04 ?) .
[21:43] <EriC^^> no idea too... :)
[21:43] <linuxlover> Bashing-om:  i actually removed steam yesterday, i am not sure why it is leaving residue
[21:43] <mjayk> aya__: and what media player are you using ?
[21:44] <EriC^^> linuxlover: you can install ppa-purge
[21:44] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[21:44] <linuxlover> done EriC^^
[21:44] <aya__> mjayk: the one that came default fo linux 14.04 lts
[21:45] <aya__> mjayk: ubuntu**
[21:45] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: linuxlover ppa-purge miaght work as 'steam' is native in 14.04 .
[21:45] <Bashing-om> might*
[21:45] <mjayk> aya__: i thought the restricted extra's should have sorted that may I suggest you install vlc via sudo apt-get install vlc that should deffinatly play the video
[21:46] <jhutchins> Or mplayer.
[21:47] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam
[21:47] <EriC^^> i think it takes url's too
[21:47] <linuxlover> Bashing-om:  i am using 14.10 lubuntu
[21:47] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  done!
[21:48] <EriC^^> linuxlover: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[21:48] <EriC^^> linuxlover: is it still there/
[21:48] <neopsyche> hi all.. i upgraded kernel on 14.04 to 3.16~  i LOST my power icon and power management.. how to go back to 3.13?
[21:49] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599285/
[21:49] <ikonia> where did the 3.16 kernel come from ?
[21:49] <mjayk> neopsyche: in the grub boot screen you should beable to select the old kernel neopsyche
[21:49] <ikonia> the HWE stack takes it to 3.17 I thought
[21:49] <neopsyche> from the ubuntu mainline on canonical server mjayk
[21:49] <neopsyche> iknoia
[21:49] <ikonia> mainline doesn't contain all the patches
[21:49] <mjayk> neopsyche: boot into the old kernel then remove the new kernel and update grub
[21:49] <neopsyche> ikonia you have been here a lont time..
[21:50] <neopsyche> ikonia, mjayk the grub does not show up at boot.. rather it takes me straight in
[21:50] <ikonia> neopsyche: just remove the kernel and it will boot into the next available one on the system
[21:50] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it's still there
[21:50] <neopsyche> ikonia, mjayk i wish there were an easy graphical way to monitor kernels.. like in the software manager for ppas
[21:50] <neopsyche> ok. ikonia so i remove 3.16 .. how to?
[21:51] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  :(
[21:51] <neopsyche> ikonia.. sorry for lame but I dont know commands
[21:51] <ikonia> neopsyche: open the package manager, find the kernel, click remove
[21:51] <brothersome> neopsyche, there is
[21:51] <neopsyche> ok.. package manager? you mean ubuntu soft center?
[21:51] <ikonia> neopsyche: not sure why you think there is no way to monitor the packages - thats what software center does
[21:51] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: if a ppa updates a package, and you remove it from sources.list.d , run update, then dist-upgrade, will the packages it upgraded be downgraded?
[21:51] <neopsyche> ikonia.. what to type on soft search?
[21:51] <mjayk> ikonia: just for my own learning can you remove the kernel that you are currently booted into ? is it safe
[21:51] <ikonia> neopsyche: the soft search ?
[21:52] <neopsyche> ikonia .. searchin inside software center
[21:52] <ikonia> mjayk: yeah, it removes the package, your still running on the binary in ram
[21:52] <ikonia> neopsyche: just browser it
[21:52] <brothersome> neopsyche like: http://grafana.ayntest.net/#/dashboard/file/minetest.json
[21:52] <ikonia> neopsyche: find the kernel package and remove it
[21:52] <mjayk> ikonia: ok thanks I can save alot of time in the future :)
[21:52] <neopsyche> I wish software power management was better on ubuntu.. i get 5 hours or so on windoze (but not since i unsinstalled it .. at about 2 hours ubutnu)
[21:52] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: did the ppa-purge run and complete ? one has to manually remove the source now . IF steam is reverted to what is in the repository maybe now can be removed with the package manager ?
[21:52] <ikonia> neopsyche: it's not "poor" on linux, it depends on the hardware compatbility
[21:53] <neopsyche> ikonia: you are right.. it is SAMSUNG that SUCKS~!
[21:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: what did the ppa-purge command return?
[21:53] <linuxlover> Bashing-om:  yeah i ran that command sudo apt-get install ppa-purge EriC^^  gave me
[21:53] <neopsyche> THANKS FOR NOTHING SAMSUNG!!! FOR NOT WORKING WITH UBUNTU/CANONICAL... Like DELL! I will NEVER EVER EVER BUY SAMSUNG AGAIN!
[21:53] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599308/ EriC^^
[21:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: what about the sudo ppa-purge http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ precise steam ?
[21:54] <Pici> neopsyche: We could do without the caps and this commentary.
[21:54] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: I understand that ppa-purge reverts the installed package to what is in the repository, and one has to manually remove the PPA source .
[21:54] <neopsyche> sorry pici. i had a moment
[21:54] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599311/
[21:54] <Caleb--> h
[21:54] <Caleb--> hi
[21:55] <Caleb--> i've installed ubuntu using efi boot. how do i get into recovery mode?
[21:55] <Caleb--> i tried rebooting and holding the shift key, but it just boots into ubuntu
[21:55] <EriC^^> sudo ppa-purge -s http://repo.steampowered.com/steam/ -d precise -p steam
[21:55] <neopsyche> ikonia: i typed linux kernel.. and got a bunch of magazines for sale.
[21:55] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ^^
[21:55] <mjayk> Caleb--: wat do you mean recovery mode ?
[21:55] <ikonia> neopsyche: I didn't tell you to type linux kernel
[21:56] <ikonia> neopsyche: I told you to browse the package list fo rit
[21:56] <ikonia> for it
[21:56] <neopsyche> ikonia, apologies, what was i to look at?
[21:56] <ikonia> it's alphabetical
[21:56] <neopsyche> ok
[21:56] <neopsyche> sorry
[21:56] <neopsyche> its late
[21:56] <Caleb--> mjayk, i need a root shell before ubuntu starts
[21:56] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599332/
[21:57] <neopsyche> wiat should i be using synaptic?
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Caleb--: For UEFI boot you need to press escape within the first three seconds after grub starts to access the menu (by default).
[21:58] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: EriC^^ I have little experience with ppa-purge, however, the syntax is " sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> " . I must be away for a bit ,, be back soonest .
[21:58] <neopsyche> ikonia; would it be under uncatagorized?
[21:58] <linuxlover> thx Bashing-om
[21:59] <joshhartigan> Is there a distribution of Ubuntu that comes without GUI?
[21:59] <Caleb--> Jordan_U, thanks
[21:59] <ikonia> neopsyche: I have no idea without looking I don't have software center in front of me
[21:59] <welovfree> Hello, how many dependencies exist for emacs? I want to download it offline
[21:59] <joshhartigan> welovfree: see http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/emacs.html
[22:00] <brothersome> joshhartigan, perhaps use openbox as gui
[22:00] <ikonia> err no
[22:00] <ikonia> they are not the same dependencies for the packages
[22:00] <joshhartigan> brothersome: I'd like to use a terminal
[22:00] <ikonia> ubuntu builds against dependencies
[22:00] <ikonia> so quoting blfs is wrong
[22:00] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge -s repo.steampowered.com -p steam -d precise
[22:00] <mjayk> my keyboard stops working in gnome-terminal randomly anyone else had this
[22:00] <ikonia> query the emacs package for what dependencies it needs
[22:01] <ikonia> not some random other distro's info
[22:01] <neopsyche> ok ikonia.. i now see the kernel etc in synaptic
[22:01] <joshhartigan> ikonia: sorry
[22:01] <brothersome> joshhartigan, change the line in menu.lst (grub) with an option nogui
[22:01] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599370/
[22:01] <joshhartigan> brothersome: ok - and how will I be able to find (and uninstall) all the packages that give me a DE?
[22:03] <neopsyche> ikonia; i remove 3.16
[22:03] <neopsyche> ?
[22:03] <joshhartigan> What about Ubuntu Server? Is that the equivalent of Ubuntu minus a DE?
[22:03] <ikonia> if thats the one you don't want
[22:03] <brothersome> joshartigan like ... http://superuser.com/questions/310978/starting-ubuntu-without-the-gui
[22:03] <ikonia> joshhartigan: no thats targeted at server infrastructure
[22:04] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we can try to remove the ppa from the sources.list.d manually
[22:04] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  okay
[22:04] <EriC^^> linuxlover: i'm not sure if using ppa-purge would be better or what
[22:05] <neopsyche> I have never seen a better package manager than synaptic. thanks ikonia
[22:05] <neopsyche> ikonia, its removing now
[22:05] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge -p steam -d precise -s repo.steampowered.com
[22:06] <joshhartigan> neopsyche: Have you ever used pacman?
[22:06] <neopsyche> ikonia so now i reboot.. and it uses the old kernel?
[22:06] <neopsyche> josh i used pacman the SSH terminal yes
[22:06] <ikonia> neopsyche: it should fall back to the next kernel in your list if you have other kernels installed
[22:06] <EriC^^> anybody know what ppa-purge actually does?
[22:06] <neopsyche> joshharti if thats what you mean
[22:06] <neopsyche> eric ppa purge gets rid of old ppas
[22:06] <joshhartigan> neopsyche pacman is the Arch linux package manager, it's very good
[22:06] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599404/
[22:07] <neopsyche> ikonia is linux kernel independent.. in actual boot process. .but the additional features are kernel dependent?
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: sorry I don't understand your question ?
[22:07] <neopsyche> ie: remove all kernels, linux still boot/?
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: no
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: the kernel is what you boot
[22:07] <mjayk> no if u remove all it wont boot
[22:07] <ikonia> if you remove all kernels there is nothing to boot
[22:07] <neopsyche> lol ok
[22:07] <neopsyche> :-)
[22:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, apparently ppa-purge will attempt to downgrade packages after removing a ppa, which is more or less what we want
[22:08] <neopsyche> mjayk , ikonia how do i install default kernel for 14.04 now i removed the old one?
[22:08] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  wouldn't it be easy to just reinstall lubuntu lol
[22:08] <ikonia> neopsyche: it should still be there
[22:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: lol, nah
[22:09] <mjayk> neopsyche: unless you removed the default one it should still be there
[22:09] <ikonia> neopsyche: you will normally have 2 - 3 kernels on your machine
[22:09] <ikonia> neopsyche: hence why grub will make it default again
[22:09] <ikonia> check
[22:09] <neopsyche> ok ikonia i see 3.13 generic with ticks next to entries .. good sign?
[22:10] <ikonia> yes
[22:10] <neopsyche> ;-)
[22:10] <neopsyche> thx
[22:10] <neopsyche> see you guys on the other side. ;-)
[22:11] <neopsyche> ok
[22:11] <neopsyche> it seems to have booted ikoni
[22:11] <mjayk> lol
[22:11] <neopsyche> ikonia
[22:11] <mjayk> brilliant
[22:11] <neopsyche> :-)
[22:12] <neopsyche> lol.. darn it.. but mainline is now 3.15
[22:12] <neopsyche> is that right?
[22:12] <welovfree> how can I install emacs, I've downloaded "emacs-24.4.tar.xz"
[22:12] <neopsyche> AHA! 3.15 gave me my battery back
[22:12] <theadmin> welovfree: Remove that and just "sudo apt-get install emacs"
[22:12] <neopsyche> ACPI is a nightmare on my machine ikonia
[22:13] <neopsyche> ikonia i have been having epic battle with the kworker overload bugs
[22:13] <welovfree> theadmin: I wanna install it offline because I don't have an internet connexion right now
[22:13] <aya__> mjayk: i got the movies from yify
[22:13] <neopsyche> ikonia.. its like the os wants to commit suicide on my hardware
[22:14] <theadmin> welovfree: That would be problematic, since to build the source you downloaded you'll need to grab a compiler and stuff (also from the repos)...
[22:14] <mjayk> aya__: did vlc still not work ?
[22:14] <mjayk> maybe its a bad torrent
[22:14] <welovfree> theadmin: :(
[22:15] <theadmin> welovfree: Installing software while offline is a real problem on Ubuntu, I find. I don't even know how to help.
[22:15] <ikonia> use the sources on the DVD ?
[22:15] <ikonia> emacs is probably in main
[22:15] <welovfree> theadmin: in the archive I did download, exist all the dependencies of the emacs? right
[22:15] <ikonia> no
[22:15] <theadmin> welovfree: Likely not.
[22:16] <ikonia> %100 not
[22:16] <ikonia> more so as it has optional dependencies
[22:16] <welovfree> but aren't they enough for an offline installation?
[22:16] <ikonia> no
[22:16] <aya__> mjayk: no, it still plays audio but says i need visual codecs
[22:16] <neopsyche> ikonia i think there is a conspiracy between manufaturers and microshaft http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946373&page=2
[22:17] <ikonia> neopsyche: yeah, not really interested when you can't even call microsoft by it's proper name
[22:17] <welovfree> I downloaded the archive from here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/emacs.html
[22:17] <ikonia> welovfree: no
[22:17] <ikonia> welovfree: I told you not to use that
[22:17] <neopsyche> ikonia that was a play on words. :-)
[22:17] <ikonia> that is not for ubuntu
[22:17] <ikonia> neopsyche: no, it was just a stupid name calling of a vendor to make you look cool, I', not interested
[22:17] <neopsyche> ok ikonia no worries
[22:18] <neopsyche> ikonia my apologies
[22:18] <welovfree> ikonia: yeah I know but someone here linked me to that
[22:18] <welovfree> that's why
[22:18] <ikonia> welovfree: yes, and I told you not to use it
[22:18] <ikonia> it was wrong
[22:18] <welovfree> ok
[22:18] <neopsyche> ikonia are you secretly mshuttleworth?
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we can remove the other ppa's during this time
[22:18] <ikonia> the fact that you are asking this means you should not even consider compiling it
[22:18] <ikonia> neopsyche: please stop
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: xorg-edgers should be pretty easy to remove
[22:18] <neopsyche> ok
[22:18] <neopsyche> neo halts process
[22:18] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  ok :)
[22:18] <jhutchins> U14.04 is really slow on vmplayer.  I think it's the video.
[22:18] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i thought you've given up
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: nah
[22:18] <ikonia> jhutchins: a common issue on virtual guests
[22:19] <welovfree> ikonia: but is there is a way to install emacs offline or what?
[22:19] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  this will remove my graphics driver right
[22:19] <ikonia> welovfree: you can either a.) download all the packages/dependencies you need, b.) use an offline media repo, such as an install DVD
[22:19] <welovfree> ikonia: like a deb or someting
[22:19] <ikonia> as I said earlier
[22:19] <ikonia> welovfree: it is not 1 deb
[22:19] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it should revert to the standard repo drivers
[22:19] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it might break though who knows
[22:19] <linuxlover> can i reinstall the driver's after?
[22:20] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah you should be able to
[22:20] <linuxlover> ok
[22:20] <linuxlover> ill remove it now then
[22:20] <linuxlover> for the  sake of VM
[22:20] <welovfree> ikonia: how many debs?
[22:20] <EriC^^> ok
[22:20] <ikonia> you have to check
[22:20] <ikonia> as I advised you earlier
[22:20] <ikonia> welovfree: we are repeating the same conversation
[22:20] <aya__> mjayk: and the internet says that theres alot of fake malware codecs
[22:20] <welovfree> ikonia: :(, ok
[22:20] <ikonia> welovfree: why can this machine not go online ?
[22:21] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599515/ EriC^^
[22:21] <linuxlover> something went wrong at the bottom
[22:21] <welovfree> ikonia: problems with ISP
[22:21] <ikonia> welovfree: what problems
[22:22] <mjayk> aya__: that is very true for windows; you get a video torrent which tells you to install a codec from www.thisisacodecnotavirus.com
[22:23] <welovfree> ikonia: A got some problems in router maybe, but they say I have to wait till they send help, so I am waiting but I have to install emacs cause I need to work out my homeworks
[22:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[22:24] <EriC^^> linuxlover: is xorg-edgers still there?
[22:24] <linuxlover> yeah i think so
[22:24] <ikonia> welovfree: I'd suggest if your windows 8 machine you are using now is on the same network, your ubuntu machine should probably work fine on it
[22:25] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599551/ EriC^^
[22:25] <linuxlover> i didn't reboot though, should i?
[22:25] <dgarstang> Okiday... how do I control the init.d boot script order? Does ubuntu have numbers like redhat?
[22:25] <welovfree> ikonia: I am using I friends machine
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: nah, it's removed, those are comments
[22:25] <linuxlover> oh
[22:25] <welovfree> ikonia: to get help
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:25] <linuxlover> i dont need reboot?
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no
[22:26] <ikonia> welovfree: well, you have your options then
[22:26] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we'll give it a shot in a bit
[22:26] <Jordan_U> dgarstang: Ubuntu uses upstart, which is based on events, not static ordering. Red Hat used to use upstart also, but now uses systemd (which also doesn't have static ordering). What is your end goal?
[22:26] <welovfree> ikonia: what option?
[22:26] <EriC^^> linuxlover: in the off chance that it doesn't work, do you know how to get to a tty and come back here?
[22:26] <linuxlover> not sure what tty is
[22:26] <linuxlover> process is finished
[22:27] <ikonia> welovfree: download the deb and all the dependency packages, or use an offline repo, such as an install CD
[22:27] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ctrl+alt+f1 is tty1, alt+f7 will take you back to the gui, give it a shot
[22:27] <linuxlover> sounds scary
[22:27] <linuxlover> ok
[22:27] <linuxlover> waht do i do once i'm in tty?
[22:27] <linuxlover> just come back here?
[22:27] <EriC^^> linuxlover: if you reboot and you get a blank screen or something, go to tty1 and sudo apt-get install irssi
[22:27] <welovfree> ikonia: I can download the debs from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/emacs right?
[22:28] <ikonia> no
[22:28] <linuxlover> ok
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: that is just the emacs package
[22:28] <linuxlover> i need to write this down
[22:28] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah you can use irssi to chat, /server irc.freenode.net 8001
[22:28] <EriC^^> linuxlover: then /join #ubuntu
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: you also need the depends listed on the page
[22:28] <welovfree> ikonia: yeah I know, but they are on the same page right?
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: and the links
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: no, they are different packages
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: click the links
[22:29] <ikonia> and you'll see the depends, you need to click all the links to the point of no more links
[22:29] <welovfree> ikonia: this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/emacs24
[22:29] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i did crtl + alt + f1 , did not take me to ttyl
[22:30] <ikonia> welovfree: you need the package, and all the dependencies, and the dependencies dependencies, and their dependenices etc etc etc
[22:30] <EriC^^> linuxlover: hmm, try ctrl+alt+f2 , hold then together
[22:30] <EriC^^> *them
[22:30] <mjayk> linuxlover: if you are on a laptop make sure you dont need to press the fn key aswell to access f1 f2 etc
[22:30] <linuxlover> not on laptop
[22:30] <welovfree> ikonia: what!!!!!!! I got find out how to get the internet :) then hhhhhhhhh
[22:30] <linuxlover> ctrl+alt+f2 isn't working either
[22:31] <aya__> mjayk: im not sure what u meant lol
[22:31] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, well there's something else you can do
[22:31] <mjayk> aya__: it sounds to me like a bad torrent
[22:31] <EriC^^> linuxlover: have you ever booted with the nomodeset option in the kernel line?
[22:32] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i have no idea what that is =\
[22:32] <aya__> mjayk: sad panda lol ugg why did pirate bay have to die lol
[22:32] <mjayk> aya__: ikr :(
[22:32] <Jordan_U> welovfree: This may make the process a little more bearable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168352/how-do-i-generate-a-package-download-list
[22:33] <dnivra> Hello everyone! I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 64bit and trying to compile a program that requires binutils with multiarch support. I've installed the binutils-multiarch-dev package but the loader complains saying it can't find certain functions: print_insn_big_arm, print_insn_big_mips, print_insn_little_arm and print_insn_little_mips. I couldn't determine which files I'm missing so thought I'd ask if anyone here knew the package that provides the SO files
[22:33] <dnivra> which contain these functions.
[22:33] <welovfree> Jordan_U: ok let me check, thank you
[22:33] <Jordan_U> welovfree: You're welcome.
[22:34] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, when the pc boots, hold shift, you'll get grub, press 'e' over the ubuntu entry, then go down to the line that says Linux vmlinuz..... blablabla quiet splash, and add 'nomodeset' after quiet splash, then press ctrl+x to execute it
[22:34] <rio_zenta> Under alsamixer in the CLI, i have 2 "Headphone" options, with one of them being at zero. when trying to adjust the volume up, nothing happens. Does anybody else know to make "Headphone 1" 100% ?
[22:35] <welovfree> Jordan_U: but as I can notice they are using commands that need internet access.
[22:35] <welovfree> Jordan_U: or I am I mistaken?
[22:35] <EriC^^> linuxlover: if that doesn't work, then try to add 'text' instead of nomodeset, and it will take you straight to a tty
[22:35] <linuxlover> just type "text"?
[22:36] <EriC^^> linuxlover: after quiet splash
[22:36] <linuxlover> ok brb
[22:36] <EriC^^> ok
[22:36] <Jordan_U> welovfree: You are mistaken, the following command (from that page) does not require internet access: sudo apt-get install <package-name> --allow-unauthenticated -y --print-uris | grep -o '\'http.*\' | tr "\'" " " > download-list
[22:36] <linuxlover> wait
[22:37] <linuxlover> after i ctrl+x .. then what?
[22:37] <linuxlover> does it boot me back into GUI?
[22:37] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it boots, yeah
[22:37] <linuxlover> ok
[22:37] <linuxlover> brb
[22:38] <ararob> dnivra, don't know the functions off hand, but it sounds like the your application and the -dev package are not in sync, did you get the latest -dev package?
[22:38] <welovfree> Jordan_U: ahh right :) my bad hhhhh
[22:38] <mjayk> #
[22:39] <marianne> hi guys, running ubuntu 14.04... anyone know the file where I can put soundbites for system messages and screen unlocks and stuff? going to surprise my BF by making the box sound like jarvis
[22:39] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  shift did not take me to grub
[22:39] <EriC^^> linuxlover: did you hold it>
[22:39] <linuxlover> yeah
[22:39] <Merrill> Okay
[22:39] <linuxlover> but what reboot did was it deactivated my second monitor
[22:39] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok well at least you're here so that means everything's ok?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> linuxlover: If you're booting via UEFI you need to constantly press and release escape rather than holding shift.
[22:40] <linuxlover> ok ill try ESC
[22:40] <dnivra> ararob: binutils-multiarch-dev 2.24-5ubuntu3 is installed. The application recommends binutils 2.20(if not 2.20, 2.19.1 or later) so I asssumed 2.24 should work fine.
[22:40] <EriC^^> linuxlover:
[22:40] <EriC^^> wait
[22:40] <linuxlover> what
[22:40] <EriC^^> no need that was just in case it boots into a black screen and you cant get to a tty
[22:41] <linuxlover> oh so i dont need to get to TTY now since i'm here
[22:41] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah
[22:41] <linuxlover> did something go wrong then
[22:41] <linuxlover> if i'm here
[22:41] <aya__> mjayk: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2474022,00.asp
[22:42] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no it was just a precaution
[22:42] <linuxlover> ok
[22:42] <Jesper--> so what is this tty? What do you use them for and how many are there?
[22:42] <Merrill> linuxlover: EriC^^ plays it to safe
[22:43] <EriC^^> Merrill: he just removed his graphics drivers and doesnt have tty
[22:43] <nda_> I'm about to go nuts. I'm trying to rip an audio CD using a Live USB version of Ubuntu 14.04.1. To do that, I need to install a program from the "universe" source. I've enabled it, but I still am not allowed to install the program using Software Center. :(
[22:43] <Bud> Hello World, i'm new on this channel
[22:43] <rio_zenta> anybody have any response to 2 headphone options in alsamixer?
[22:43] <rio_zenta> nda_, Try sudo apt-get install
[22:44] <nda_> rio_zenta: Thank you. I will try that as soon as I figure out what the package name is.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> nda_: sudo apt-get update # (or click whatever update button you find in Software Center)
[22:44] <EriC^^> linuxlover: does lubuntu have the additional drivers package?
[22:44] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  yeah i think.. from synpatic manager?
[22:44] <rio_zenta> darn, why do updates of ubuntu break more things instead of keeping them fixed. sigh
[22:45] <EriC^^> rio_zenta: ppa much?
[22:45] <nda_> Jordan_U: Thank you. The GUI asked me to reload something, and I did. Can't find any update/reload button there.
[22:45] <Bud> Is there someone who could help me finding serial number from my lost video game ?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> nda_: Though I'm almost certain that Ubuntu comes with a program that can rip audio CDs by default.
[22:45] <Merrill> rio_zenta: because you have junk kernel modules.
[22:45] <mjayk> Bud: no
[22:45] <marianne> Bud: I think your in the wrong room
[22:46] <marianne> you're*
[22:46] <EriC^^> linuxlover: in unity it's called additional drivers, and it shows which drivers you can use
[22:46] <linuxlover> yeah i found that in "software & updates"
[22:46] <nda_> Jordan_U: The only thing I found was "Brasero Disc Burner", which somehow didn't let me create an image.
[22:46] <linuxlover> EriC^^:
[22:46] <rio_zenta> EriC^^, no ppa at all. this is a fresh install
[22:47] <linuxlover> I'm there now EriC^^  and i see 3 options for graphic drivers
[22:47] <Jordan_U> nda_: What do you mean by "create an image"?
[22:47] <kostkon> nda_: try with rhythm box
[22:47] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok which is selected right now?
[22:47] <EriC^^> linuxlover: what vga do you have? type lspci | grep VGA
[22:48] <ararob> dnivra, maybe try 2.20 then, if you can find it? if it still doesn't work, then something else is missing...
[22:48] <nda_> Jordan_U: Disc image, e.g. ISO or something. I don't mind if I rip the disc or get an image, as long as I get a digital copy of it.
[22:48] <linuxlover> right now it's selected as x.org.xserver -- nouveau display driver  and i have a gtx780
[22:48] <Jordan_U> nda_: If you want to rip the audio off the CD with absolutely no loss then choose "FLAC" as the audio format. It doesn't make much sense to make an "image" of an audio CD, and it's by definition impossible to create an iso image as an audio CD doesn't contain an iso9660, or any other, filesystem.
[22:49] <linuxlover> but i know for a fact that i don't select that one
[22:49] <Bud> Sorry i leave if i'm in the wrong room
[22:49] <linuxlover> because nouvea makes it impossible to load steam games.
[22:49] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok select the one you want
[22:49] <Jordan_U> nda_: OK. What problem are you having ripping the audio into audio files?
[22:49] <linuxlover> so it doesn't matter which one i choose?
[22:50] <Merrill> linuxlover: pick nvidia
[22:50] <nda_> Jordan_U: The problem now is just that I haven't even gotten to the part where I have a program to use. I'll however try Rythmbox as suggested by kostkon.
[22:50] <mjayk> linuxlover: there will be 2 nvidia ones just pick one of those; doesnt really matter which one
[22:50] <linuxlover> ok mjayk
[22:51] <dnivra> ararob: Yeah I guess that's probably the way to go. I'll probably have to compile binutils for that. I'll check it out. Thanks for helping out!
[22:51] <Merrill> mjayk: it matters. Don't pick the updated one.
[22:52] <linuxlover> ok EriC^^  done
[22:52] <mjayk> Merrill: if it does ive never experienced any difference
[22:52] <nda_> kostkon, Jordan_U: Rhytmbox has a feature to extract the tracks, and it seems to be doing something. :D Thank you!
[22:52] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, try the nvidia-settings or something
[22:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: or reboot
[22:53] <kostkon> nda_: :-)
[22:53] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i think i have to reboot to see the changes
[22:53] <Merrill> mjayk: the updated one is actually older.
[22:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:53] <linuxlover> brb
[22:53] <mdoge> Got some apt-get issues.. not sure where to start looking: http://pastebin.com/AiefrrNX
[22:54] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu 14.10 ... my system monitor has stopped showing network activity ... it still shows CPU & Memory activity though ... any ideas there ?
[22:54] <mdoge> can anyone give me a push in the right direction?
[22:54] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  ok, i'm back, strange, now i don't see my menu bar.
[22:54] <mjayk> Wow Merrill is a racist teenager
[22:56] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  nevermind fixed it. yeah im back on nvidia-settings
[22:56] <linuxlover> mjayk:  yeah he also did the same to me.
[22:56] <mjayk> linuxlover: people like that are just kids
[22:57] <Jordan_U> linuxlover: mjayk: If there is any PM abuse going on, please bring that up in #ubuntu-ops.
[22:57] <mjayk> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:57] <linuxlover> i'm not really  focused on the troll at the moment
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:57] <EriC^^> :D
[22:57] <Jordan_U> mjayk: You're welcome.
[22:57] <linuxlover> i hope it'll work this time EriC^^
[22:57] <linuxlover> :)
[22:57] <linuxlover> yes it's downloading
[22:57] <mjayk> Jordan_U: didnt know it existed
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yay
[22:58] <linuxlover> thank you EriC^^
[22:58] <linuxlover> you put in a lot of work on this.
[22:59] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no problem
[22:59] <linuxlover> yeah i have virtualbox :)
[22:59] <linuxlover> cool!
[22:59] <jdfskitz> so does anybody work on this irc and get paid, or are all of you just doing this for free to help people?
[22:59] <EriC^^> yeah, it is :)
[22:59] <Merrill> linuxlover: virtualbox has two versions. And the one installed with apt-get is the junk one. Also make sure kernel modules are built.
[23:00] <linuxlover> what are you trying to do Merrill ? you act serious here but troll in pm why
[23:00] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: EriC^^ I am back, looking good ? linuxlover ; there is still one other old PPA that needs to be dealt with " deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ trusty main " .
[23:00] <jdfskitz> I may want to just sit and read how you resolve other's issues so that I can be of use.
[23:00] <Jordan_U> Merrill: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[23:01] <rcampbel3> I want to use ssh-import-id, to get public ssh keys, but want to get them from my own keyserver - not launchpad or github. Anyone done something similar?
[23:01] <linuxlover> yes Bashing-om  virtualbox up and running now. Much thanks to EriC^^
[23:02] <nzca> hola alguien ayuda?
[23:02] <Bashing-om> linuxlover:   : ) , EriC^^ is of 'something else' . good .
[23:02] <nzca> por favor?
[23:03] <rio_zenta> jdfskitz, Most IRC channels are unsupported by their developers. They prefer writing code and leaving the actual work of dealing with users to us :)
[23:03] <linuxlover> wait Bashing-om  do i run that command?
[23:03] <linuxlover> "deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ trusty main "
[23:03] <linuxlover> or not a command it seems lol
[23:04] <james_ca> why I cannot use chown to change ownship?
[23:04] <letsgets> EriC^^: tell linuxlover about the different virtual boxes. Apt-get version is junk. And make sure kernel modules get built.
[23:04] <jatt> !es | nazca
[23:04] <letsgets> james_ca: You not putting sudo in front
[23:04] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: Naww, just agreeing that EriC^^ is of the best help here . _ don't forget to deal with that trusty repo. Else will get ya unto trouble later .
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # ls -l
[23:05] <james_ca> total 0
[23:05] <james_ca> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 448 Dec 22 15:37 james
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # chown james: james
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # chown -v james: james
[23:05] <james_ca> changed ownership of ‘james’ from root:root to james:james
[23:05] <unopaste> james_ca you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:05] <nzca> gracias ubottu!! :D
[23:05] <linuxlover> yeah i'm surprised how much patience he has Bashing-om!
[23:05] <linuxlover> well thanks im going to install windows 7 now
[23:06] <jdfskitz> this irc is very active right now..
[23:07] <letsgets> linuxlover: install Windows on that crippled version of virtualbox.
[23:08] <james_ca> sudo chown -v james: james
[23:08] <james_ca> changed ownership of ‘james’ from root:root to james:james
[23:08] <Charcoalcat> Hi! I can hear everything in my browser except Livestream. This happened after I was messing with the sound settings in Python. I don't remember what else I tried, but here's the program as it currently is: https://bpaste.net/show/54fce658d0a9 Help? I tried enabling load-module module-rtp-recv (in papref settings and the text file) already and rebooting.
[23:08] <Charcoalcat> It's an issue in Firefox and Chromium both.
[23:08] <james_ca> but I still get drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 448 Dec 22 16:01 james
[23:08] <james_ca> what's the problem?
[23:09] <jdfskitz> sounds like a sound driver problem to me.. or a config file
[23:09] <jdfskitz> let me see if I can find something
[23:09] <EriC^^> linuxlover: most stuff can be fixed in linux if you keep at it, i'd dare say all, anyways in life as well if you never quit, you're bound to make it, it's a cliche but never say never
[23:09] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: But I could play Livestream just the other day.
[23:09] <letsgets> james_ca: try sudo chmod 777. Then use the gui.
[23:10] <linuxlover> thanks EriC^^ I'll remember not to think reinstall is the only solution next time.
[23:10] <Charcoalcat> I think I last checked Livestream early Sunday morning.
[23:10] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: you may have had a recent update and it may have set your default sound driver to the incorrect one
[23:11] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: perhaps asoundconf list
[23:11] <jdfskitz> asoundconf set-default-card <one from the list>
[23:12] <letsgets> jdfskitz: wrong
[23:12] <james_ca> hi <letsgets>, in the gui, the owner or group always bounce back when I change it
[23:12] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I'm pretty sure I haven't updated since then.
[23:12] <theadmin> james_ca: Are you on a FAT32 or NTFS filesystem?
[23:12] <jdfskitz> letsgets: mind helping out :)
[23:13] <james_ca> NTFS
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: NTFS does not support UNIX permissions.
[23:13] <james_ca> ok, i SEE
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: Move the files to an ext2/3/4 drive and then mess with them.
[23:13] <letsgets> james_ca: impossible did you try chmod 777
[23:13] <james_ca> OK, thanks
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: Or, you can mount the whole filesystem with a certain permission set -- that way all the files will have the same permission
[23:13] <james_ca> yes I did
[23:14] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: have you modified anything?
[23:14] <pixelkat> yo!
[23:14] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Maybe? Like I said, I did some random stuff in Python trying to figure out how to change the volume. I can try and find the thing I used.
[23:15] <hedin> Hi, I'm playing around with btrfs on ubuntu and now I need to boot ubuntu with the degraded option set on my btrfs volume... how do I do that?
[23:15] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: maybe a description of what you did in python? also have you checked the alsa sound meter in the top
[23:15] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I tried things on here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10739390/how-to-programmatically-change-volume-in-ubuntu
[23:15] <phroggy> hi all, I'm kinda newish to Ubuntu, working on setting up a new server to be a VM host, running on new hardware.  Running into a bit of trouble.
[23:15] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No, how do I check the alsa sound meter?
[23:16] <letsgets> james_ca: maybe the files are owned by ntfs user and root can't change that.
[23:16] <phroggy> my current issue is that the system intermittently hangs on boot
[23:16] <theadmin> letsgets: NTFS simply doesn't support permissions.
[23:16] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: or it looks like you are using ubuntu, so pulse meter
[23:16] <phroggy> last line on the console says:  EXT4-fs (dm-0): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[23:16] <theadmin> letsgets: Well, it supports Windows ACL, but that's a different matter
[23:16] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: what OS are you in
[23:17] <theadmin> letsgets: The permissions are actually stored on the filesystem, not in the OS
[23:17] <james_ca> letsgets: thanks, I'll convert to ext and try
[23:17] <theadmin> So...
[23:17] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:17] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: How do I check the pulse meter? What is it?
[23:17] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: click on the unity panel and search pulse
[23:18] <letsgets> jamestunniclif
[23:18] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It just shows PulseAudio Preferences and PulseAudio Volume Control.
[23:19] <Marasgeon> In disks utility , I see disk is ok, one bad sector, am I going to have any problem ?
[23:19] <letsgets> theadmin: maybe he could make a copy of the file and try the file permissions on the copy.
[23:19] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: the end is imminent i'd think, i'd backup, ( no disk expert though )
[23:19] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: If you mean Volume Control then of course I checked that, master volume is at 100% and Firefox is at 100%.
[23:19] <theadmin> letsgets: As long as the copy is on a different filesystem, that would work
[23:20] <Charcoalcat> Plus other stuff plays fine like Totem sound or Youtube in Firefox. It's just Livestream.
[23:20] <EriC^^> *i'm no
[23:20] <Marasgeon> EriC^^: Should I replace the disk?
[23:20] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: check the preferences and go to the simultaneous output
[23:20] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: back up your important data to another disk
[23:20] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: is the tickbox checked?
[23:21] <Marasgeon> is there a way to check disk and fix bad sectors?
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: yeah, i think so
[23:21] <jdfskitz> yes, there is. I usually get to it through the grub menu
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: that should give a report of the disks health i think
[23:22] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: if it gets really bad you can use badblocks i think to get the bad sectors and use fsck to not use them or something
[23:22] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: but it's better to get another disk it will get worse i think
[23:23] <Marasgeon> thank you  Eric^^ and jdfskitz, have a good night!
[23:23] <droid909> if i have lubuntu i still can have remote desctop, right?
[23:23] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:23] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: you too!
[23:23] <neopsyche> ikonia: again, my apologies
[23:23] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It wasn't checked. I checked it. Do I need to reboot?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: Do you have backups of all of the important files on this disk?
[23:24] <Marasgeon> not yet Jordan_U
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: You need to do that, regardless of the health of the drive.
[23:25] <Marasgeon> yeah I know mate, just neglecting it
[23:25] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I'm unsure, can you do one more thing for me before that, in a terminal type alsamixer
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Marasgeon: Be aware, there is no perfect hard drive , have a bad sector in and of that is not a real bad thing, what is bad is if these bad sector(s) can not be reallocated .  smartmontools will tell ya .
[23:25] <Marasgeon> ok
[23:26] <Marasgeon> I'll check it
[23:26] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Everything looks okay? I'll try and put up a screenshot in a second.
[23:26] <Marasgeon> so bad blocks caused by physical damage only?
[23:26] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: use the arrowkeys to select speaker and hit enter
[23:26] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: that is if everything's volume is up of course
[23:27] <droid909> Marasgeon: there soft bad blocks too, but they are rare
[23:27] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: not enter -.- sorry, tired, f6
[23:27] <jdfskitz> Charcoatcat: choose the correct sound card
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: It's possible that the bad block was caused by a loss of power while writing to the block, if the block was half written to then it's corrupted.
[23:28] <Marasgeon> ok, guys thanks a lot for the information, have a good night everyone
[23:28] <nda_> I think I have a problem with ripping an audio CD using Rhythmbox. It seems to just stop while copying 15/74 tracks, and it never progresses. The CD doesn't stop spinning, and I keep hearing the laser head move every second. Any ideas?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> droid909: I can't imagine anything I would call a "soft bad block" that would show up via S.M.A.R.T. .
[23:28] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16623407/screenshots/alsamixer.png
[23:29] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: is the realtek ALC887-VD the correct sound card
[23:29] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I have default and HDA Intel PCH in the menu when I press F6.
[23:29] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It sounds right?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> nda_: Can you play the CD normally? Is it scratched. I assume that with 74 tracks, these are not all full songs. What is on this audio CD?
[23:30] <droid909> Jordan_U: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/bad-blocks-mean-hard-drive-failing-75578.html
[23:30] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: After restarting my browser after checking the box, I heard sound in Livestream for a second.
[23:31] <nda_> It's a brand new audio CD with voice clips (learning material). I've played some of the tracks just fine, but I can try track 15, 16 and later.
[23:31] <droid909> Jordan_U: Not all bad sectors are created equal, and there are two different types of sector errors: hard and soft. A hard bad sector has suffered physical damage to a certain block of space, such as from an impact, manufacturing defect or even a small speck of dust on the drive's internal disk. A soft bad sector is essentially a spot that the operating system finds a problem with. One way an OS finds a soft bad sector is if the sector's error-cor
[23:31] <nda_> Jordan_U
[23:31] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: after you selecct the HDA intel PCH are the volumes up
[23:31] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: it's possible that the browser might have just needed reset, and you may just need to clear the cache
[23:31] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: The volumes look exactly the same after selecting it.
[23:31] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: But it doesn't work in Chromium, either.
[23:32] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: the cache is usually shared
[23:32] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Huh. How do I clear it?
[23:33] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: under volume control and playback I would make sure that the sound is up specifically to your browsers as well..
[23:33] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: depends on the browser
[23:34] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I doubt it's the issue though..
[23:34] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Hm, Chromium was muted. Unmuting it didn't change anything, though.
[23:35] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: re open the browser again?
[23:35] <nda_> Jordan_U: I can apparently listen to the tracks without any issues. I listened to track 15, 16 and later ones.
[23:35] <nda_> Jordan_U: Still, the ripping process stops on or after track 15 :S
[23:36] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: also make sure flash isn't muted if there is an option
[23:36] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Restarted both browsers, no change. Also there's no flash option, but it can't be muted because Youtube works.
[23:36] <blackangelpr> i am also testing to rip my russian course cd on flac with just 3 tracks for the full cd and takes long so far but its working
[23:37] <jdfskitz> so it's just the livestream...
[23:37] <nda_> blackangelpr: Glad it works in your case, at least! No idea why it doesn't work with my course CD. :(
[23:37] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: can you link me the livesteam?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> droid909: Thanks, I wasn't familiar with that terminology. Learn something new every day :0
[23:37] <Jordan_U> s/:0/:)/
[23:37] <droid909> Jordan_U: np :)
[23:37] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: http://www.livestream.com/kyrtian
[23:38] <blackangelpr> nda_, might have protective codecs?  i will try with cd two so it might have protection i let you know in a few minutes
[23:38] <nda_> blackangelpr: Thanks! I can listen to the already-ripped tracks, which may be a bit strange?
[23:39] <nda_> I mean if that was the case
[23:39] <blackangelpr> nda_, the orange bar on the lower right still going?
[23:39] <nda_> blackangelpr: Nope
[23:39] <blackangelpr> :(
[23:40] <nda_> >.<
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: Try sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: then restart your browser.
[23:40] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: >.>
[23:41] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: just making sure, not trying to insult you. Is the audio up on the video itself?
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No problem, definitely not insulted, just trying to show what's going on.
[23:42] <Enissay> how to move a folder and all it's content to another place ?  "mv /a /b" will do ? (I forgot xD)
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> Oh, about the audio thing, but still not an insult.
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> Yep, I've checked it multiple times.
[23:42] <jdfskitz> Can somebody else assist charcoalcat with this issue?
[23:42] <Enissay> oh, the -R
[23:44] <nda_> Okay, I think I'll give up on ripping my CD using Ubuntu or any other Linux distro, and I'll see if I can do it on Windows instead. Tired of shaving the yak. :\
[23:44] <Charcoalcat> If it helps, I just tried this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/watch-live-streams-on-ubuntu-via-video-player/ with vlc and mplayer, and it doesn't have sound either.
[23:45] <blackangelpr> nda_,  can you tell me what course it is so i can look on the internet if you want you can page me private :p if you dont want anyone else to know :p just saying XD
[23:45] <EiEiOhh> 14.04- Can I increase my root partition size without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[23:45] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, many ways to do it depends how you installed ubuntu
[23:46] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Thanks for trying to help!
[23:46] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition
[23:46] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I need to go, so I apologize
[23:46] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: what I can say is you are probably missing a lib file.
[23:46] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No problem, and thanks for the tip!
[23:47] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: probably try and find out how to reinstall support for vlc or Mplayer.
[23:47] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I'll look into that!
[23:47] <nda_> blackangelpr: Oh that's nice of you. Not sure if it can be found though.. But this is the one: http://www.abookhouse.com/Bookhouse/BookDetail.aspx?Code=JA002834
[23:50] <pixelkat_> my sound settings are gone from my top bar
[23:51] <pixelkat_> what do
[23:51] <blackangelpr> nda_,  hard hard sorry i try but only other things are showing than that cd :(  my regards
[23:51] <ubuntu-studio> Hello everybody! I have a quick question. What is the name of the application that you can do video chat with? Is it called UNC Video? Or something? Lol
[23:51] <pixelkat_> skype
[23:51] <nda_> blackangelpr: It's cool. Thanks for trying. :D
[23:51] <subz3r0> pidgin xmpp
[23:52] <subz3r0> skype is propritary crap
[23:52] <ubuntu-studio> Lol!
[23:52] <pixelkat_> works fine for me
[23:53] <ubuntu-studio> I have seen people on YouTube use it whenever they shoot on line video tutorials.
[23:54] <Pupuser-1> Hi Guys, I have Ubuntu fully installed on a 16gb USB stick (not live). I am running out of space- is there anyway I can move the whole installation to a 64gb USB stick and keep all the addtional software that I have installed?
[23:55] <Dracus> Been using Ubuntu on a machine for about a year now, but suddenly the wireless connection is really iffy, and slow. Every other machine, be it a different format, or OS, is blazing fast in comparison
[23:55] <Dracus> what do?
[23:55] <daftykins> Dracus: a clue of the wireless adapter make and model in question would be a good starting point
[23:55] <EiEiOhh> blackangelpr, I created two partitions at install... root (slash) and a home partition
[23:56] <Dracus> Sure, sorry. I just ran lspci and a wall of text came up daftykins
[23:56] <daftykins> Dracus: should be pretty easy to pull out the relevant entry
[23:57] <Dracus> The laptop is an unknown year hp pavillion dv6, and the hardware is a Broadcom BCM4313 WNAdapter
[23:57] <Dracus> It's 802.11bgn if that helps
[23:57] <Dracus> Every other device is at our standard ~20mbps but using sudo-apt get yields results less than 1kbps sometimes
[23:57] <Dracus> and other times websites simply refuse to load
[23:58] <daftykins> i take it you're going by the same repo to base this comparison?
[23:58] <Dracus> Lamens terms, I'm a learner
[23:58] <Dracus> Repo?
[23:58] <daftykins> the other systems that are fast, are pulling packages and updates from the exact same package repositories?
[23:58] <daftykins> not a different 'mirror' ?
[23:59] <daftykins> so if you plug this HP in with wired, it's fine? (to prove the situation)
[23:59] <Dracus> the ethernet connection on this machine is borked
[23:59] <Dracus> children and their habit of plugging things in stupidly
[23:59] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, correct your home is where all your information are from the users and root is for the system  so do not worry about the example have a messy configuration the basic is the same select the partition you want to rezise  here you go :P might this help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgUwWkvuIY