| JackFrost | bluesabre: Can you drop the ISO size ~60MBs? :) | 04:31 | 
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| skellat | 967 MiB for i386 and 962 MiB for amd64 | 04:36 | 
| skellat | Why do you need the drop? | 04:37 | 
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| knome | good morning elfy | 07:41 | 
| elfy | hi knome :) | 07:43 | 
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| ochosi | bluesabre: maybe we should add that as a feature in light-locker actually. something like "light-locker --quit" to make it shut down gracefully | 10:08 | 
| bluesabre | ochosi: that would certainly help | 10:09 | 
| ochosi | i mean for xubuntu i guess we can find a way to kill it more or less cleanly | 10:14 | 
| ochosi | but more generally, it'd probably be better if the switch were built-in | 10:15 | 
| bluesabre | yes | 10:22 | 
| bluesabre | as usual, easy for linux, hard for bsd's | 10:23 | 
| ochosi | yup | 10:23 | 
| ochosi | still not sure btw why parole's buttons look like they do. guess i'll have to work on the .osd class a bit more in greybird | 10:25 | 
| ochosi | (although i don't consider that a huge problem, in general gtk3.14 works ok with greybird and numix now) | 10:25 | 
| bluesabre | haven't had a chance to install vivid yet | 10:26 | 
| bluesabre | ideally will do so once I finish the xfpm patch | 10:26 | 
| bluesabre | ochosi: other than hiding the security frame and killing light-locker, any other complaints/concerns? | 10:29 | 
| ochosi | nope, other than that it seems all good | 10:29 | 
| bluesabre | awesome | 10:30 | 
| bluesabre | once I finish that (probably tonight), will go ahead and add the patch to -staging so folks can play with it then | 10:33 | 
| ochosi | sounds great | 10:35 | 
| ochosi | if we can also get the xdg-screensaver patch done soon, then we have a "complete" patch set for 15.04 in that respect | 10:36 | 
| bluesabre | yeah, tbh I forgot what needs to be done with that one | 10:45 | 
| knome | ochosi, you know which FAQ article we need? | 10:46 | 
| knome | "how to turn on 'no screen blanking' mode", per release | 10:46 | 
| ochosi | bluesabre: basically we need to add a case for light-locker (analogously to the gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver cases) | 10:48 | 
| ochosi | ll uses the fd.org dbus spec, so the inhibit/resume code should all be there already | 10:48 | 
| ochosi | knome: yeah, probably. hopefully it'll all be sorted in 15.04 though | 10:49 | 
| knome | ochosi, sure, though people will still continue to use 14.04 | 10:49 | 
| knome | so it would be nice to have a tutorial on how to do that | 10:49 | 
| ochosi | yeah, use xscreensaver is the only easy way though | 10:50 | 
| knome | i was thinking today i could write a script that moves the mouse back and forth every 9 minutes | 10:50 | 
| ochosi | any media player will likely reset the blank-time to the default of 600, no matter what you set it to | 10:50 | 
| knome | (1px right/left) | 10:50 | 
| knome | then simply run that script when you need to not blank | 10:51 | 
| ochosi | that is silly though, and basically what some mediaplayers (i think mplayer) have coded in already | 10:51 | 
| knome | sure... | 10:51 | 
| knome | but it's about two lines of bash code with xdotool, already figured it out :) | 10:51 | 
| knome | i'm not suggesting to ship that or anything :D | 10:51 | 
| knome | just for my personal use, because i'm lazy.. | 10:51 | 
| ochosi | sure | 10:51 | 
| ochosi | or use 15.04 when it's out ;) | 10:52 | 
| knome | i guess i should update to 14.10 first ;)) | 10:52 | 
| ochosi | or add one of our PPAs | 10:52 | 
| knome | well if that's an option... maybe tell people to do that | 10:52 | 
| knome | maybe we could even have a PPA including just that change | 10:53 | 
| knome | (least effect to packages, no daily updates) | 10:53 | 
| ochosi | yeah we could. would mean adding updated packages of xfpm, light-locker and xdg-utils | 10:53 | 
| knome | considering 14.04 is supported for a few years from now... | 10:53 | 
| knome | bluesabre, ^ | 10:54 | 
| knome | can help with stuff if there's something i can do | 10:54 | 
| ochosi | there are times when i'm wondering whether we should have our own PPA and add/enable it by default in any install | 10:54 | 
| knome | mhm | 10:54 | 
| ochosi | so we can backport fixes without all the lengthy SRU crap | 10:54 | 
| knome | isn't some flavor doing that already? | 10:54 | 
| knome | lubuntu or ubuntu gnome maybe | 10:54 | 
| ochosi | i think some do it yeah | 10:54 | 
| knome | but ultimately, i don't think that's the "right" solution | 10:55 | 
| ochosi | not really, yeah | 10:55 | 
| ochosi | anyway, for now you could help by finalising the dev-wallpaper | 10:55 | 
| ochosi | ;) | 10:55 | 
| knome | SRU crap is SRU crap, but it's there for a reason and protects as well | 10:55 | 
| knome | i'll do that, err, before the end of the year | 10:55 | 
| knome | can't promise to spend a lot of my time before christmas for obvious reasons :P | 10:55 | 
| ochosi | the thing is, the SRU crap is there for a reason if you are an ubuntu maintainer that is supposed to merge/upload changes of packages he/she doesn't use/know | 10:55 | 
| knome | tbh, you can go past that relatively quickly once you're "known" | 10:56 | 
| knome | i think there's one weeks wait for reasons (tm), but otherwise it should be swift | 10:57 | 
| ochosi | some of our SRUs are still pending though | 10:58 | 
| ochosi | anyway, gotta do some work now, bbl | 10:58 | 
| knome | and if the whole process takes less than, say, two weeks, it's not much considering LTS's are supported for three years | 10:58 | 
| knome | then we should poke people :) | 10:58 | 
| knome | let's get back on that after the worst holiday season (when nobody is around) and i can see what i can do | 10:59 | 
| knome | have fun with work | 10:59 | 
| knome | i guess i should do a little thing as well, then finish off things | 10:59 | 
| ochosi | thanks, you too! | 11:02 | 
| bluesabre | SRUs are painful because if we have an upload that fixes 30 bugs, and somebody stumbles across a new one then (even minor from my experience), the new upload is blocked | 11:34 | 
| bluesabre | anyway, gotta run, bbl | 11:34 | 
| andrzejr | guys, I've compiled xfce from scratch and now lightdm(?) doesn't load my session. Where is the session config stored? xubuntu-14.10 | 22:02 | 
| andrzejr | does xfce4-session need xubuntu-specific patches? | 22:08 | 
| JackFrost | Several packages have Xubuntu (and Debian) specific patches, yes. | 22:10 | 
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