[04:31] <JackFrost> bluesabre: Can you drop the ISO size ~60MBs? :)
[04:36] <skellat> 967 MiB for i386 and 962 MiB for amd64
[04:37] <skellat> Why do you need the drop?
[07:41] <knome> good morning elfy
[07:43] <elfy> hi knome :)
[10:08] <ochosi> bluesabre: maybe we should add that as a feature in light-locker actually. something like "light-locker --quit" to make it shut down gracefully
[10:09] <bluesabre> ochosi: that would certainly help
[10:14] <ochosi> i mean for xubuntu i guess we can find a way to kill it more or less cleanly
[10:15] <ochosi> but more generally, it'd probably be better if the switch were built-in
[10:22] <bluesabre> yes
[10:23] <bluesabre> as usual, easy for linux, hard for bsd's
[10:23] <ochosi> yup
[10:25] <ochosi> still not sure btw why parole's buttons look like they do. guess i'll have to work on the .osd class a bit more in greybird
[10:25] <ochosi> (although i don't consider that a huge problem, in general gtk3.14 works ok with greybird and numix now)
[10:26] <bluesabre> haven't had a chance to install vivid yet
[10:26] <bluesabre> ideally will do so once I finish the xfpm patch
[10:29] <bluesabre> ochosi: other than hiding the security frame and killing light-locker, any other complaints/concerns?
[10:29] <ochosi> nope, other than that it seems all good
[10:30] <bluesabre> awesome
[10:33] <bluesabre> once I finish that (probably tonight), will go ahead and add the patch to -staging so folks can play with it then
[10:35] <ochosi> sounds great
[10:36] <ochosi> if we can also get the xdg-screensaver patch done soon, then we have a "complete" patch set for 15.04 in that respect
[10:45] <bluesabre> yeah, tbh I forgot what needs to be done with that one
[10:46] <knome> ochosi, you know which FAQ article we need?
[10:46] <knome> "how to turn on 'no screen blanking' mode", per release
[10:48] <ochosi> bluesabre: basically we need to add a case for light-locker (analogously to the gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver cases)
[10:48] <ochosi> ll uses the fd.org dbus spec, so the inhibit/resume code should all be there already
[10:49] <ochosi> knome: yeah, probably. hopefully it'll all be sorted in 15.04 though
[10:49] <knome> ochosi, sure, though people will still continue to use 14.04
[10:49] <knome> so it would be nice to have a tutorial on how to do that
[10:50] <ochosi> yeah, use xscreensaver is the only easy way though
[10:50] <knome> i was thinking today i could write a script that moves the mouse back and forth every 9 minutes
[10:50] <ochosi> any media player will likely reset the blank-time to the default of 600, no matter what you set it to
[10:50] <knome> (1px right/left)
[10:51] <knome> then simply run that script when you need to not blank
[10:51] <ochosi> that is silly though, and basically what some mediaplayers (i think mplayer) have coded in already
[10:51] <knome> sure...
[10:51] <knome> but it's about two lines of bash code with xdotool, already figured it out :)
[10:51] <knome> i'm not suggesting to ship that or anything :D
[10:51] <knome> just for my personal use, because i'm lazy..
[10:51] <ochosi> sure
[10:52] <ochosi> or use 15.04 when it's out ;)
[10:52] <knome> i guess i should update to 14.10 first ;))
[10:52] <ochosi> or add one of our PPAs
[10:52] <knome> well if that's an option... maybe tell people to do that
[10:53] <knome> maybe we could even have a PPA including just that change
[10:53] <knome> (least effect to packages, no daily updates)
[10:53] <ochosi> yeah we could. would mean adding updated packages of xfpm, light-locker and xdg-utils
[10:53] <knome> considering 14.04 is supported for a few years from now...
[10:54] <knome> bluesabre, ^
[10:54] <knome> can help with stuff if there's something i can do
[10:54] <ochosi> there are times when i'm wondering whether we should have our own PPA and add/enable it by default in any install
[10:54] <knome> mhm
[10:54] <ochosi> so we can backport fixes without all the lengthy SRU crap
[10:54] <knome> isn't some flavor doing that already?
[10:54] <knome> lubuntu or ubuntu gnome maybe
[10:54] <ochosi> i think some do it yeah
[10:55] <knome> but ultimately, i don't think that's the "right" solution
[10:55] <ochosi> not really, yeah
[10:55] <ochosi> anyway, for now you could help by finalising the dev-wallpaper
[10:55] <ochosi> ;)
[10:55] <knome> SRU crap is SRU crap, but it's there for a reason and protects as well
[10:55] <knome> i'll do that, err, before the end of the year
[10:55] <knome> can't promise to spend a lot of my time before christmas for obvious reasons :P
[10:55] <ochosi> the thing is, the SRU crap is there for a reason if you are an ubuntu maintainer that is supposed to merge/upload changes of packages he/she doesn't use/know
[10:56] <knome> tbh, you can go past that relatively quickly once you're "known"
[10:57] <knome> i think there's one weeks wait for reasons (tm), but otherwise it should be swift
[10:58] <ochosi> some of our SRUs are still pending though
[10:58] <ochosi> anyway, gotta do some work now, bbl
[10:58] <knome> and if the whole process takes less than, say, two weeks, it's not much considering LTS's are supported for three years
[10:58] <knome> then we should poke people :)
[10:59] <knome> let's get back on that after the worst holiday season (when nobody is around) and i can see what i can do
[10:59] <knome> have fun with work
[10:59] <knome> i guess i should do a little thing as well, then finish off things
[11:02] <ochosi> thanks, you too!
[11:34] <bluesabre> SRUs are painful because if we have an upload that fixes 30 bugs, and somebody stumbles across a new one then (even minor from my experience), the new upload is blocked
[11:34] <bluesabre> anyway, gotta run, bbl
[22:02] <andrzejr> guys, I've compiled xfce from scratch and now lightdm(?) doesn't load my session. Where is the session config stored? xubuntu-14.10
[22:08] <andrzejr> does xfce4-session need xubuntu-specific patches?
[22:10] <JackFrost> Several packages have Xubuntu (and Debian) specific patches, yes.