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oldfred    /msg nickserv register qwer5tQQ fpalmer19@comcast.net19:35
Mikaelayou may want to try "/query NickServ" in order to avoid accidentally sending the commands to channel and when you do register, you may want to use different and more secure password.19:36
oldfredThanks, Mikaela guess I did not realize NickServ was a channel and not a command.  How do I request a cloak. I am a member https://launchpad.net/~oldfred20:08
IdleOnePici: ^20:09
MikaelaNickServ is a service/bot and /query opens private messaging window with it.20:09
MikaelaTo request a cloak, you ask here (like you did) and wait for member of Ubuntu IRC council to appear and ping staffers20:09
Fuchsit is neither a channel nor a command, it's a service frontend. As for the cloak: asking in here, then waiting for both IRCC and staff.20:09
* Pici looks20:10
Picihuzzah20:16
Fuchscongratulations, oldfred20:16
Fuchsnow you might want to configure auto-authentication in your client, preferred way is http://freenode.net/sasl/20:17
oldfredThanks, while in Forums for a while, first time in IRC20:17
Fuchsyou'll either like it or run away screaming. Anyway, enjoy your stay. http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml has links to good primers / tutorials if interested, most things come by learning by doing, though.20:18
MikaelaYou might also want to change your client. XChat is not developed anymore and it doesn't support anything newer than SSLv3 and because of poodle and servers removing support for it, you will be unable to connect using SSL in the future.20:18
Fuchsin that case you might want to go for hexchat, which is an xchat fork. Does the SASL I mentioned out of the box.20:18
oldfredI was suggested both xchar & hexchat If I logout & back in do I have to start over?20:19
MikaelaHexChat which should be available in Ubuntu repositories can take your current config http://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/faq.html#how-do-i-migrate-my-settings-from-xchat20:19
Mikaelaand it also has SASL support https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-hexchat.shtml/20:19
Mikaelathe last link should be https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-hexchat.shtml20:19
oldfredI already installed hexchat, just happened to use xchat first20:20
Fuchsoldfred: not really, no. Your cloak is now tied to your account, just don't drop the account, then you are fine.20:20
Mikaelaoldfred: you are currently using xchat20:20
Mikaela2014-12-23 22:17:33+0200 -- CTCP query to oldfred: VERSION20:20
Mikaela2014-12-23 22:17:34+0200 -- CTCP reply from oldfred: VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Ubuntu20:20
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MikaelaFuchs: sorry :(20:23
FuchsMikaela: that wasn't terribly serious :)20:23
Fuchsmore poking fun of sending a ctcp version when he actually said what client he is using. Ignore me, I'm silly.20:23
* Mikaela specified new version reply20:24
MikaelaI versioned before client was mentioned20:24
oldfredSince I have not really done anything other than log in here with xchat, I will logout and then try hexchat. Wish me luck.20:25
Fuchsoldfred: shall keep paw crossed20:25
Fuchsaww20:25
Fuchswell, that looks good, and you are identified as well20:30
oldfredoldfred back, had a couple of issues as it first defaulted to second name and I did not get password in in time. But then found where to add password to default.20:30
oldfredI think I used wrong one again. signing off20:32
oldfredNot sure I am working20:50
Mikaelaautomatic identification is not currently working20:50
Fuchsit worked the first time you came back, mind.20:51
oldfredvery first time I accidentally click on xchat, the with hexchat it came in as second choice or third choice as I did not have password set in hexchat20:52
oldfredThis time I came in as oldfred but it said I was already used and went ot Nickserv to add password again20:53
Fuchshttps://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-hexchat.shtml   << you followed these instructions?20:53
Fuchsbecause if you use SASL, you don't have to deal with nickserv.20:53
Fuchsjust make sure to set oldfred as the username, set SASL as the method and put your password in the password field20:53
oldfredI thought that was what I did, could be system saw me trying too many times at once?20:55
Fuchsnah20:56
Fuchsif you put the right username in, the nick it uses shouldn't matter either. Try that again, as said, it initially did work. If it did put you on another nick: entirely possible, this (might not sound logical to you) doesn't have anything to do with whether you are identified or not20:57
oldfredI am going out and double check settings20:57
oldfred_I came back as oldfred_ not oldfred, double checked settings and changed a couple of check boxes21:06
Fuchsyes, but at least you are now identified21:07
Fuchsyour old connection is still around though, so probably you left something open. You can remove it from the network with nickserv's ghost command if you want, then you can have your usual nick21:07
Fuchssee   /msg nickserv help ghost21:07
Fuchsthere can only be one connection using the nick oldfred at a time, thus the second one uses the alt name. Identifying to nickserv does not automagically change your nick  (that is intended and correct)21:08
oldfred_I thought I had shutdown, do I have to detach before closing Hexchat?21:09
Fuchsno, shouldn't be needed. Not knowing hexchat in detail: some clients have an option to keep running in systray when you close the window, maybe it's that.21:09
oldfred_I will try logging out and come back after a few hours and see what happens, too much new user not sure what he is doing.21:11

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