[07:02] <wxl> stgraber: Riddell: Lubuntu still has no dailies.
[07:57] <darkxst> Ubuntu GNOME doesnt either ;(
[11:29] <cjwatson> wxl: Yeah, what others said.  There certainly are things I've done that will require picking up, but the glitches this last week weren't related to that.
[15:55] <wxl> cjwatson: that's fine. like i said, just trying to suggest better systems might help prevent such issues.
[15:55] <cjwatson> I think it's in general necessary to understand the issues first :-)
[15:56] <wxl> cjwatson: sure, sure. and i don't. just saying this many issues are unprecedented.
[15:56] <cjwatson> The problem here was somebody overwriting the crontab with a lightly-modified version of the one in bzr, and we've already been talking about various things that will help with that, most notably getting the version in bzr more closely in sync with the running one
[15:57] <cjwatson> Unprecedented?  Hardly
[15:57] <cjwatson> This is pretty minor by comparison
[15:57] <wxl> well, in my time at least :)
[15:57] <cjwatson> It's easy to see the most recent issues as the worst ones
[15:58] <cjwatson> And having the dailies not rebuilding for a while after a milestone is released is not even slightly a new problem, that's practically routine ...
[15:58] <cjwatson> (if not ideal)
[15:58] <wxl> anyways, i've said my 2¢ and i believe the release team will do everything in their power to ensure the least amount of issues
[15:58] <cjwatson> What I'm saying is that coming in with generalities about better systems is not actually directly very helpful
[15:58] <wxl> cjwatson: but only for certain flavors?
[15:58] <cjwatson> Only the flavours that were releasing had their builds disabled in the first place
[15:59] <wxl> and lubuntu and gnome are still disabled, while kylin which had participated, is not
[15:59] <wxl> well, might not be. they seem to be a day behind some
[16:00] <cjwatson> I'm sort of reluctant to look because then you'll say it's all because I wasn't involved :-P
[16:00] <cjwatson> Anyway, you can check the crontab schedule yourself
[16:01] <wxl> look, i already accept that this has nothing to do with you :)
[16:01] <cjwatson> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/view/head:/etc/crontab
[16:01] <cjwatson> 29 16 * * *for-project lubuntu cron.daily; for-project lubuntu cron.daily-live --live
[16:01] <cjwatson> 32 15 * * *for-project ubuntu-gnome cron.daily-live --live
[16:01] <cjwatson> And from yesterday:
[16:01] <cjwatson> 20:39 <stgraber> cron fixed
[16:01] <cjwatson> So it is not at all surprising that Lubuntu has not built yet since then, since 16:29 is in 28 minutes from now
[16:01] <wxl> i also accept that this is a unique set of circumstances
[16:02] <cjwatson> And ubuntu-gnome tried to build not long ago and failed: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/vivid/ubuntu-gnome
[16:02] <cjwatson> No it's not (unique)
[16:02] <wxl> well
[16:02] <cjwatson> I think you're making this out to be much worse than it is, honestly
[16:02] <cjwatson> Calm down a bit :)
[16:02] <wxl> i'm trying to backpedal from it, actually
[16:02] <cjwatson> As far as I can see there is no current systemic problem with image builds
[16:03] <wxl> yeah that's what i'm trying to say XD
[16:03] <cjwatson> Some are running and failing, but that's normal and up to flavour folks to fix
[16:03] <wxl> thou art preaching to the choir
[16:03] <cjwatson> OK
[16:04] <cjwatson> Looks like things are basically fine, anyway, so I should go and belatedly (help) put the Christmas tree up
[16:04] <wxl> yeah sorry for ruffling everyone's feathers
[16:05] <wxl> next time i'll fix my own systems first ;)
[16:05] <wxl> happy holidays
[16:05] <cjwatson> Likewise
[16:06] <cjwatson> Was at a Chanukah party yesterday evening too :)
[16:06] <wxl> wow
[16:06] <cjwatson> (though that's a much more minor holiday to the folks who observe it, but anyway)
[16:06] <wxl> don't forget to get kwanza in there
[16:07] <cjwatson> This isn't some kind of completism, it's because we have a close Jewish friend who happens to live nearby :)
[16:07] <wxl> around the world in 80 holidays? :)
[16:07] <wxl> heheh
[16:07] <wxl> luckily all we've got is christmas to deal with
[16:08] <wxl> that's enough for me
[16:08] <cjwatson> Still, yay doughnuts and latkes
[16:08] <wxl> oh well, you didn't mention that :)
[16:09] <wxl> alright i'm going to go get ready for work
[16:09] <wxl> thanks again!