[00:46] <pleia2> haha
[00:46] <DonkeyHotei> hoho
[01:44]  * ianorlin just listened to a talk by jon maddog hall and I realize how many of the 12 bugs I reported he says on average would be about 3 confrence rooms full of people that have reported bugs in proprietary software and I have only been at this 18 months which is pretty shocking when you think about it
[01:44] <ianorlin> oh wait that doesn't count my lxqt ones that have been fixed
[23:01] <rww> still at 14 ballots cast
[23:02] <rww> i don't think this election is going to have a particularly amazing turnout :P
[23:02] <pleia2> welcome to elections in open source projects
[23:02] <pleia2> someone in the openstack project was sad about 35% turnout once, I was like "no, that's kind of spectacular"
[23:03] <rww> yeah, we're at 20-something%, I think
[23:03] <rww> to be fair, I've never heard of half of our LP members, so... yeah
[23:03] <rww> makes you wonder why they bother renewing
[23:04] <pleia2> well, I'm glad they care enough to do :)
[23:04] <pleia2> and this is why survey!
[23:04] <pleia2> why are you here? how can we get you to engage?
[23:04] <pleia2> ...assuming they respond to that
[23:04] <pleia2> I don't respond to any of the ACM membership polls, I kind of feel bad now
[23:04]  * pleia2 lurker
[23:05] <elky> rww: i think there's some misplaced value on the number or type of memberships on launchpad in some parts of the world
[23:07] <nhaines> Well, LoCo Team members should be people who are actively interested in pursuing Ubuntu advocacy.
[23:07] <nhaines> But I think there's been a bit of a mixed message on that in the past.
[23:13] <elky> nhaines: based on my experience on the oceania RMB, people in some developing countries think being on the official membership list for ubuntu can get you hired/respect/a promotion. it wasn't unheard of for people to turn up begging for membership before contributing for this reason
[23:13] <rww> sometimes people want @ubuntu/member/* IRC cloaks because they're a member of a LoCo team
[23:13] <rww> that's always fun
[23:14] <nhaines> elky: to be fair, my Ubuntu contributions *have* sailed me right through the interviews for my last 3 jobs.
[23:14] <elky> i imagine some join as many loco groups as possible as "proof" that they have network
[23:14] <rww> ubuntu membership's done basically nothing for me
[23:14] <elky> nhaines: your contributions have, sure. so have mine. these people wanted something for nothing
[23:14] <rww> I had an LWN subscription for free for a bit, that's it
[23:15] <pleia2> rww: the gandi.net deal is pretty epic
[23:15] <nhaines> Well, to be honest, the business cards are an eye catcher but it's been the "public speaking" and "published magazine articles" that really did it.
[23:16] <pleia2> the email address has been helpful for me, when people seek to take me seriously as a contributor and expert
[23:17] <nhaines> pleia2: the email address is pretty handy.
[23:17] <rww> looks like Gandhi would save me less than a dollar a year on domain registration, and I don't need web hosting
[23:17] <rww> Gandi, even
[23:17] <pleia2> rww: ah, I guess not everyone has a fleet of domains :)
[23:17] <pleia2> it's saving me a lot
[23:17] <rww> indeed. I only have one :)
[23:18] <pleia2> but they are a great company too, and hosting our SF global jam in February \o/
[23:18]  * pleia2 needs to create a wiki page for that soon
[23:18] <nhaines> I have the scientifically funniest domain name possible.
[23:18] <rww> oh hey, i stop being a loco leader in like a week
[23:19] <nhaines> http://www.ilickedyourcupcake.com/
[23:19] <darthrobot> Title: [I licked your cupcake]
[23:19] <rww> somehow this didn't occur to me
[23:19] <pleia2> me too \o/
[23:19] <rww> nhaines: lol
[23:19] <nhaines> rww: see?
[23:20] <pleia2> I bought rainwreck.com a while back, which spawned t, d, b, g subdomains hosted by myself and friends
[23:20] <pleia2> that's been fun, and lasted far longer than I expected
[23:20] <nhaines> haha
[23:21] <nhaines> pleia2: what do vegan zombies eat?
[23:21] <pleia2> I don't know
[23:21] <nhaines> Graaaaiiiinnns!
[23:21] <pleia2> :)
[23:22] <rww> i got cookies from someone at work
[23:22] <rww> i love living with a gluten-free person :3
[23:22] <elky> :(
[23:22] <rww> lolz
[23:22] <elky> was this for the mt dew?
[23:23] <rww> no, from one of the office secretaries
[23:23] <rww> same one that gave me the blanket
[23:23] <elky> ah
[23:23] <elky> have you told her the cat rates the blanket to be delicious yet?
[23:24] <elky> s/to be/as/
[23:24] <elky> (it has tassels)
[23:25] <rww> elky: nope
[23:25] <nhaines> elky: or as your cat describes it: portions.
[23:25] <elky> nhaines: he doesn' tknow that word
[23:26] <pleia2> hehe
[23:28] <nhaines> Went to see if USPS had delivered my business cards yet.  The mail truck is five houses down headed this way.
[23:30] <pleia2> soon!
[23:32] <nhaines> Okay, let's see what these look like.
[23:33] <rww> i should get business cards
[23:34] <nhaines> Ooh.
[23:35] <nhaines> These do *not* look bad.
[23:36] <pleia2> hooray for not bad
[23:36] <pleia2> :)
[23:37] <nhaines> For US business card dimensions, the GPG key barely runs along the bottom of the card.  But they didn't cut off.  :)
[23:38] <nhaines> So that's 200 cards.
[23:38] <nhaines> Half white, half orange. :)
[23:38]  * pleia2 waits for pictures
[23:38] <rww> the only reason i'd actually use business cards is for a gpg key :s
[23:39] <rww> hrm, i wonder if work will make me some
[23:39] <pleia2> rww: until you realize half the people you want to sign (and most of the important ones!) want a proper printout of your fingerprint in gpg format instead of on a business card :(
[23:40] <rww> weird
[23:40] <pleia2> I still do it though, it works in a pinch for people who aren't stuck in their ways
[23:40] <nhaines> rww: I can get you US size templates.  The UK size is on the wiki page.
[23:40] <rww> nhaines: please do
[23:40] <pleia2> can the US size ones show up on the wiki page? :)
[23:41] <nhaines> pleia2: now that I've tested them not just on my printer.  :)
[23:41] <pleia2> \o/
[23:42] <elky> that seems like something of an oversight to not have US format...
[23:42] <nhaines> elky: I don't believe they had US format before.
[23:43] <elky> that would only emphasise my point
[23:43] <nhaines> Anyway, I had to steal a Canonical card to do a match, and they're all UK format because reasons.
[23:43] <nhaines> elky: oh, in that case Canonical's provided artwork hasn't changed since 2005.
[23:44] <elky> pretty sure it did with the rebranding
[23:44]  * nhaines takes the original format cards out of his wallet and replaces them with new branded cards.
[23:44] <nhaines> elky: it didn't.
[23:44] <elky> lol
[23:44] <elky> still has the old tri-color circle of friends?
[23:44] <rww> i miss that logo :(
[23:44] <nhaines> Yup.  I think Paul Sladen was *this* close to having Canonical Design spend 30 minutes to push out a redesign.
[23:45] <nhaines> But he never managed.
[23:45] <pleia2> rww: it's ok, we still have it for california :)
[23:45] <elky> lol
[23:45] <rww> pleia2: i know :)
[23:45] <pleia2> I keep thinking we should do something about that, but the list of things I "should" do has been banished
[23:45] <nhaines> Paul Sladen moving on is also why anything to do with the font died.  (Like an awesome bitmap version for server consoles.)
[23:45] <nhaines> pleia2: maybe you'll have more time on the 2nd!
[23:46] <pleia2> nhaines: actually, I think that's the day my editor puts out a contract on my life :s
[23:46] <nhaines> ha.
[23:47] <pleia2> "I'll have something to you after the holidays" <-- famous last words
[23:48] <pleia2> oh my gosh!
[23:48] <pleia2> http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux-4th/dp/0133927318/
[23:48] <darthrobot> Title: [A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux (4th Edition): Mark G. Sobell: 9780133927313: Amazon.com: Books]
[23:48] <pleia2> take a look at the cover :D :D
[23:48] <rww> \o/
[23:48] <nhaines> I got permission from an indie author I love to use a screenshot from the first page of his book to show off Calibre.  And I literally told him "I'm emailing you from my @ubuntu.com address because my editor might email me at my @nhaines.com address asking how my book is going, and who needs that this morning?"
[23:49] <nhaines> pleia2: oh wow, great pull quote  :D
[23:50] <pleia2> I spent much of my summer doing reviews of it
[23:50] <pleia2> many chapters, but was fun
[23:53] <pleia2> for certain values of fun
[23:54] <nhaines> nerd!
[23:55] <pleia2> truth
[23:56] <nhaines> It's a living.
[23:56] <pleia2> a pretty good one, turns out
[23:56] <nhaines> Beats the alternative.