[00:46] haha [00:46] hoho [01:44] * ianorlin just listened to a talk by jon maddog hall and I realize how many of the 12 bugs I reported he says on average would be about 3 confrence rooms full of people that have reported bugs in proprietary software and I have only been at this 18 months which is pretty shocking when you think about it [01:44] oh wait that doesn't count my lxqt ones that have been fixed [23:01] still at 14 ballots cast [23:02] i don't think this election is going to have a particularly amazing turnout :P [23:02] welcome to elections in open source projects [23:02] someone in the openstack project was sad about 35% turnout once, I was like "no, that's kind of spectacular" [23:03] yeah, we're at 20-something%, I think [23:03] to be fair, I've never heard of half of our LP members, so... yeah [23:03] makes you wonder why they bother renewing [23:04] well, I'm glad they care enough to do :) [23:04] and this is why survey! [23:04] why are you here? how can we get you to engage? [23:04] ...assuming they respond to that [23:04] I don't respond to any of the ACM membership polls, I kind of feel bad now [23:04] * pleia2 lurker [23:05] rww: i think there's some misplaced value on the number or type of memberships on launchpad in some parts of the world [23:07] Well, LoCo Team members should be people who are actively interested in pursuing Ubuntu advocacy. [23:07] But I think there's been a bit of a mixed message on that in the past. [23:13] nhaines: based on my experience on the oceania RMB, people in some developing countries think being on the official membership list for ubuntu can get you hired/respect/a promotion. it wasn't unheard of for people to turn up begging for membership before contributing for this reason [23:13] sometimes people want @ubuntu/member/* IRC cloaks because they're a member of a LoCo team [23:13] that's always fun [23:14] elky: to be fair, my Ubuntu contributions *have* sailed me right through the interviews for my last 3 jobs. [23:14] i imagine some join as many loco groups as possible as "proof" that they have network [23:14] ubuntu membership's done basically nothing for me [23:14] nhaines: your contributions have, sure. so have mine. these people wanted something for nothing [23:14] I had an LWN subscription for free for a bit, that's it [23:15] rww: the gandi.net deal is pretty epic [23:15] Well, to be honest, the business cards are an eye catcher but it's been the "public speaking" and "published magazine articles" that really did it. [23:16] the email address has been helpful for me, when people seek to take me seriously as a contributor and expert [23:17] pleia2: the email address is pretty handy. [23:17] looks like Gandhi would save me less than a dollar a year on domain registration, and I don't need web hosting [23:17] Gandi, even [23:17] rww: ah, I guess not everyone has a fleet of domains :) [23:17] it's saving me a lot [23:17] indeed. I only have one :) [23:18] but they are a great company too, and hosting our SF global jam in February \o/ [23:18] * pleia2 needs to create a wiki page for that soon [23:18] I have the scientifically funniest domain name possible. [23:18] oh hey, i stop being a loco leader in like a week [23:19] http://www.ilickedyourcupcake.com/ [23:19] Title: [I licked your cupcake] [23:19] somehow this didn't occur to me [23:19] me too \o/ [23:19] nhaines: lol [23:19] rww: see? [23:20] I bought rainwreck.com a while back, which spawned t, d, b, g subdomains hosted by myself and friends [23:20] that's been fun, and lasted far longer than I expected [23:20] haha [23:21] pleia2: what do vegan zombies eat? [23:21] I don't know [23:21] Graaaaiiiinnns! [23:21] :) [23:22] i got cookies from someone at work [23:22] i love living with a gluten-free person :3 [23:22] :( [23:22] lolz [23:22] was this for the mt dew? [23:23] no, from one of the office secretaries [23:23] same one that gave me the blanket [23:23] ah [23:23] have you told her the cat rates the blanket to be delicious yet? [23:24] s/to be/as/ [23:24] (it has tassels) [23:25] elky: nope [23:25] elky: or as your cat describes it: portions. [23:25] nhaines: he doesn' tknow that word [23:26] hehe [23:28] Went to see if USPS had delivered my business cards yet. The mail truck is five houses down headed this way. [23:30] soon! [23:32] Okay, let's see what these look like. [23:33] i should get business cards [23:34] Ooh. [23:35] These do *not* look bad. [23:36] hooray for not bad [23:36] :) [23:37] For US business card dimensions, the GPG key barely runs along the bottom of the card. But they didn't cut off. :) [23:38] So that's 200 cards. [23:38] Half white, half orange. :) [23:38] * pleia2 waits for pictures [23:38] the only reason i'd actually use business cards is for a gpg key :s [23:39] hrm, i wonder if work will make me some [23:39] rww: until you realize half the people you want to sign (and most of the important ones!) want a proper printout of your fingerprint in gpg format instead of on a business card :( [23:40] weird [23:40] I still do it though, it works in a pinch for people who aren't stuck in their ways [23:40] rww: I can get you US size templates. The UK size is on the wiki page. [23:40] nhaines: please do [23:40] can the US size ones show up on the wiki page? :) [23:41] pleia2: now that I've tested them not just on my printer. :) [23:41] \o/ [23:42] that seems like something of an oversight to not have US format... [23:42] elky: I don't believe they had US format before. [23:43] that would only emphasise my point [23:43] Anyway, I had to steal a Canonical card to do a match, and they're all UK format because reasons. [23:43] elky: oh, in that case Canonical's provided artwork hasn't changed since 2005. [23:44] pretty sure it did with the rebranding [23:44] * nhaines takes the original format cards out of his wallet and replaces them with new branded cards. [23:44] elky: it didn't. [23:44] lol [23:44] still has the old tri-color circle of friends? [23:44] i miss that logo :( [23:44] Yup. I think Paul Sladen was *this* close to having Canonical Design spend 30 minutes to push out a redesign. [23:45] But he never managed. [23:45] rww: it's ok, we still have it for california :) [23:45] lol [23:45] pleia2: i know :) [23:45] I keep thinking we should do something about that, but the list of things I "should" do has been banished [23:45] Paul Sladen moving on is also why anything to do with the font died. (Like an awesome bitmap version for server consoles.) [23:45] pleia2: maybe you'll have more time on the 2nd! [23:46] nhaines: actually, I think that's the day my editor puts out a contract on my life :s [23:46] ha. [23:47] "I'll have something to you after the holidays" <-- famous last words [23:48] oh my gosh! [23:48] http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guide-Ubuntu-Linux-4th/dp/0133927318/ [23:48] Title: [A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux (4th Edition): Mark G. Sobell: 9780133927313: Amazon.com: Books] [23:48] take a look at the cover :D :D [23:48] \o/ [23:48] I got permission from an indie author I love to use a screenshot from the first page of his book to show off Calibre. And I literally told him "I'm emailing you from my @ubuntu.com address because my editor might email me at my @nhaines.com address asking how my book is going, and who needs that this morning?" [23:49] pleia2: oh wow, great pull quote :D [23:50] I spent much of my summer doing reviews of it [23:50] many chapters, but was fun [23:53] for certain values of fun [23:54] nerd! [23:55] truth [23:56] It's a living. [23:56] a pretty good one, turns out [23:56] Beats the alternative.