[18:20] <oldfred> Did I finally get logged in as oldfred not oldfred_?
[18:20] <oldfred> Looks like it is
[18:22] <Mikaela> at least you got identified successfully using SASL
[18:22] <Mikaela> I had you on monitor to confirm and I saw your cloak instead of your real host.
[18:23] <oldfred> Not sure what that means?
[18:24] <Mikaela> monitor is command to show when specific users that you are monitoring come online and it also includes hostmask. if the user doesn't successfully identify using SASL, it includes real host instead of cloak
[18:24] <Mikaela> more on security of cloaks at https://gist.github.com/maxteufel/1e2cf7ada079c271bd3c and about monitor at https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/blob/master/specification/monitor-3.2.md
[18:25] <oldfred> I was having all sorts of issues of getting oldfred not oldfred_ and even setting #ubuntu-irc in hexchat
[18:26] <Mikaela> that soemtimes happens when someone else uses the nick or you get disconnected or something
[18:26] <Mikaela> "/msg nickserv help set enforce" can prevent others from using the nick and when it happens, "/msg nickserv regain oldfred" should change your nick as oldfred
[18:29] <oldfred> One fundamental thing I do not understand is the difference between commands & messages. when you say /msg nickserv is that just typing a message on the nickserv channel or freenode channel or anywhere?
[18:30] <Mikaela> "/msg nickserv" sends message to nickserv and that message is command
[18:30] <Mikaela> if you replaced nickserv with Mikaela, you would send private message to me
[18:31] <Mikaela> you can also open private messaging window with /query nickserv
[18:32] <oldfred> ok thanks
[18:32] <oldfred> time to do some more review of how things work
[18:33] <Mikaela> there were some helpful sites but I am too tired to remember what they were, I will probably wall asleep soon
[18:33] <Mikaela> oh, https://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml seems to talk a little on at least channel and user modes
[18:34] <Mikaela> hmm, why is this channel mode +F?
[19:29] <eli77> !<factoid>