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lordievader | Good morning. | 09:31 |
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White_Cat | Hi, I have an ubuntu-server installation (14.04.1). My df -h looks like this: http://pastebin.com/yEsPAShd I installed with a usb flashdisk. Currently the computer does not boot without the flashdrive. | 09:45 |
bekks | What happens without the USB flashdrive? | 09:46 |
White_Cat | it cannot find an os to boot to | 09:48 |
bekks | Whats the exact error message? | 09:48 |
White_Cat | no boot disk | 09:48 |
White_Cat | its not an error from ubuntu | 09:48 |
bekks | Whats the _exact_ error, please? | 09:48 |
bekks | Not just parts of it. | 09:49 |
White_Cat | http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201409-15510/ | 09:49 |
White_Cat | My server seems to be ubuntu certified | 09:49 |
bekks | Can you please answer my question? | 09:49 |
White_Cat | bekks the exact error is that it cannot find a boot device | 09:49 |
White_Cat | it is configured to only look for cds, usb and hdds | 09:49 |
bekks | No. | 09:50 |
bekks | Just type the EXACT error. Dont tell us what you read there, or what you think the error is. Please just type the exact, unchanged error in here. | 09:50 |
White_Cat | I dont want to walk to the server room to paraphrase the exact error | 09:51 |
White_Cat | it is complaining about the absence of a valid boot drive | 09:51 |
White_Cat | as if grub doesnt exist | 09:51 |
bekks | Then install grub on a valid boot device instead of your USB flash. | 09:54 |
White_Cat | I have no idea how to do that | 09:56 |
White_Cat | it is on a raid 5 so I wonder if that is the problem | 09:57 |
White_Cat | but then it shouldnt boot with the usb drive either | 09:57 |
bekks | Hardware or Software RAID? | 09:59 |
lordievader | Is your bios capable of booting from raid5 (note I have no experience with raids) | 09:59 |
bekks | If it is a HW RAID controller, the BIOS/EFI can boot from it. | 09:59 |
White_Cat | it is hardware raid | 10:03 |
White_Cat | lordievader I am pretty sure bios should be able to boot from raid 5 | 10:04 |
White_Cat | it had UEFI which I had to disable to boot at all | 10:04 |
White_Cat | I currently have ubuntu-server running | 10:04 |
White_Cat | but it will not reboot if I remove the USB flash drive | 10:04 |
White_Cat | I have too boot from the usb flash drive to boot from the hdds | 10:05 |
White_Cat | at first I thought I installed to the usb drive somehow but that doesnt seem to be the case based on df -h | 10:05 |
lordievader | Seems to me like you are piggybacking on the bootloader that is installed on the usb drive. | 10:06 |
White_Cat | I imagine so | 10:06 |
White_Cat | is there an ubuntu command to instll a boot loader | 10:06 |
bekks | Which Ubuntu release do you use? | 10:08 |
White_Cat | Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS | 10:09 |
White_Cat | 64bit | 10:09 |
White_Cat | http://superuser.com/questions/176050/ubuntu-server-installed-from-usb-puts-grub-on-the-usb-drive-instead-of-the-hard | 10:22 |
White_Cat | is that something I should try? | 10:22 |
White_Cat | I really do not want to destroy my system :/ | 10:22 |
bekks | !grub2 | 10:29 |
ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 10:30 |
White_Cat | I havent installed windows | 10:34 |
White_Cat | I know what grub is | 10:35 |
White_Cat | all I ask is if the link I provide something raitonal for the problem i have | 10:35 |
bekks | White_Cat: So read what ubottu told you: "For more information and roubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2". | 10:41 |
White_Cat | I just asked you if I should follow the information on the website I provided or not | 10:42 |
White_Cat | its 3 commands | 10:42 |
White_Cat | wouldnt it be easier just to specify that | 10:42 |
White_Cat | rather than dumping me an entire man page | 10:42 |
bekks | Well, I cant help you if you are refusing everything told. Good luck in soving your issue. | 10:43 |
White_Cat | a simple yes no is all I expect | 10:44 |
bekks | Since I gave you another link, the answer is "no". | 10:44 |
bekks | It is up to you. | 10:45 |
White_Cat | in that case possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading ? | 10:46 |
bekks | No | 10:46 |
White_Cat | so my only option is to read the entire Grub2 page and hope to the linux gods I do not break the machine entirey | 10:47 |
bekks | No. Your only option is to use your brain and find the section "Installing/Reinstalling/Moving GRUB2" | 10:47 |
bekks | Which is referenced in the TOC. | 10:48 |
White_Cat | it isnt a matter of brain power | 10:52 |
White_Cat | anyone with half a brain would be very hesitant to try things with the bootloader | 10:52 |
bekks | However. You got everything you need. I gotta run. | 10:53 |
White_Cat | I wish I had your confidence :) | 10:54 |
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linuxmint | Hi, I have 3 HDDs. # df -h only shows /dev/sda and not /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc. Do I need to reformat HDD b and C? | 11:23 |
thor77 | hi, i cant connect to my owncloud running on apache via https, my apache-site: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9610279/ yes, i enabled it, every https://... is redirected to my default site | 11:32 |
thor77 | apache2ctl -S -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9610304/ | 11:32 |
MaasTic | Hello all | 12:08 |
MaasTic | Do anyone was able to submit a Windows 2012 image to the new MAAS (1.7) ? If yes, can you help me ? | 12:10 |
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linuxmint | How can I setup multiple hard drives for storage? Parition wit LVM, mhddfs or RAID? I would like 1 HDD to store, then when full, I use the 2nd HDD. I am trying to avoid if 1 HDD breaks, the other HDDs won't work too. | 12:58 |
ikonia | linuxmint: you're looking for aa very bad way of storing data | 13:03 |
ikonia | linuxmint: the easy way would be to mount disk1, then when iit's filling up, mount disk2 under it | 13:03 |
linuxmint | ikonia: really, I don't know what the best idea is? | 13:03 |
ikonia | however lvm / raid would be a better approach, but as you want to stripe, that is a risk | 13:03 |
linuxmint | ikonia: yes, your idea sounds like what I'm looking for. | 13:04 |
linuxmint | ikonia: but doesn't lvm / raid make the HDDs vulnerable...if one breaks, they all break? | 13:06 |
ikonia | if you stripe, yes | 13:08 |
ikonia | as I said, "that is a risk" | 13:08 |
ikonia | this is why I said it's a very bad way of storing data at the start of the question | 13:08 |
linuxmint | ikonia: sorry, I'm confused. Does stripe mean when I run HDD1, then HDD2 when HDD1 is full. This seems safe to me? | 13:09 |
ikonia | linuxmint: it doesn't work like that | 13:09 |
ikonia | linuxmint: stripe means make the 2 disks into 1 big virtual disk | 13:09 |
linuxmint | ikonia: ok, well I think your idea of me just mounting HDD1, then mounting HDD2 when HDD1 is full. As long as HDD1 can still run the Ubuntu server OS. | 13:10 |
ikonia | linuxmint: it can | 13:10 |
linuxmint | ikonia: ok, well, I think manually mounting HDDs seems best for me for now, unless there's another possibility. | 13:11 |
ikonia | seems the most logical simple solution | 13:15 |
tom[] | how to install megactl, megacli etc. on 14.04? | 13:43 |
tom[] | http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/DebianPackages | 13:43 |
kevindf | When starting my teamspeak server I get the error "sh: echo I/O error" | 15:25 |
kevindf | when excecuting the startup shell | 15:25 |
kevindf | Anyone know what might be the cause of that? | 15:25 |
hariom | I have ntp installed but my server clock is lagging about 8 minutes. How to fix this? | 16:18 |
Crell | Hi folks. I have a newly installed 14.04 ubuntu-server. So far there's nothing on it but SSH and basic LAMP. I am trying to copy old backup files over to it, but the server keeps losing its network connection. | 16:36 |
Crell | It will be fine for a while, then suddenly stop connecting mid-transfer (via rsync). I need to reboot, and then it connects to the network fine again. | 16:36 |
Crell | Any idea what I should be checking? syslog and dmesg didn't suggest anything obvious so far... Running dhclient just pauses for a while then gives no output. | 16:36 |
Stuxnet | Hi everyone. Easy newbie question here due to lack of linux terminal navigational skills. My server was going through do-release-upgrade for 14.04 and before choosing Yes to download, I typed "D" for details. Now I don't know how to exit and go back to where I was so I can choose Yes to proceed. | 16:37 |
Stuxnet | I scrolled down to "END" and I'm stuck. | 16:38 |
Crell | Stuxnet: Is there a "back" anywhere on the screen? | 16:38 |
Stuxnet | No. | 16:38 |
Stuxnet | It doesn't appear to be vim or nano or anything. | 16:38 |
Crell | Is it a gui-ish window or just raw text? | 16:38 |
Stuxnet | raw text. | 16:38 |
Crell | Is there a colon at the bottom of the screen? | 16:39 |
Stuxnet | Yes! | 16:39 |
Crell | Then it's using "less". | 16:39 |
Crell | Try hitting Q | 16:39 |
Stuxnet | Awesome, thanks Crell | 16:39 |
Stuxnet | Worked. | 16:39 |
Crell | Sometime later type "man less" for more details on less. Useful little tool. | 16:39 |
Crell | Use Q to get out of the man page then, too. :-) | 16:40 |
Stuxnet | Okay thanks. Is less the default ubuntu server text editor? | 16:40 |
Crell | It's not an editor; it's a text file viewer. | 16:40 |
Stuxnet | or viewer.. | 16:40 |
Stuxnet | oh okay. | 16:40 |
Crell | It's the default viewer on... every system I've used in the last 10 years. | 16:40 |
Stuxnet | Ah. | 16:40 |
Crell | Lets you scroll up, down, search, and quit. | 16:41 |
Crell | And that's about all I ever do with it. :-) | 16:41 |
Stuxnet | Understood. I am Windows native and "grew up" with GUIs, I am even a newbie with command prompt, but I am experimenting with a home server so I am learning the terminal commands, it's fun though. Linux seems to be extremely easy and efficient. | 16:42 |
Crell | Once you get the hang of it, it usually is. | 16:43 |
Crell | Except when mystery errors happen, which has been my last 2-3 days. :-( | 16:43 |
Stuxnet | I knew I was stuck in some type of text file, just didn't know the commands. If I'm editing I'm usually in nano. | 16:44 |
Stuxnet | heh wow. | 16:44 |
Crell | A lot of linux commands are written on the assumption that you already know how to use them. | 16:46 |
Crell | That makes them very very efficient and fast to use once you do, but harder to pick up in the first place. | 16:46 |
Crell | Contrast with a typical GUI approach which emphasizes learnability over expert-efficiency. | 16:46 |
Crell | Different tradeoffs for different use cases. | 16:46 |
Stuxnet | Now that I am here, before I go, maybe somebody can point me in the right direction as this is probably a common thing: The server is headless and I manage it by SSH with PuTTY. It's my understanding that if you reboot the services like open-ssh don't start until you log in. | 16:47 |
Crell | Depends how they're configured. | 16:47 |
Crell | The default ssh configuration does start on boot. | 16:47 |
Crell | I think most that you install via apt start on boot by default... | 16:47 |
Stuxnet | Okay. I seem to rememebr not being able to log in again after reboot but I will test it and make sure. | 16:48 |
Crell | You definitely want to setup ssh keys, though, while you're there. | 16:48 |
Stuxnet | Right. That was approaching on my to do list :P | 16:48 |
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