[09:31] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:45] <White_Cat> Hi, I have an ubuntu-server installation (14.04.1). My df -h looks like this: http://pastebin.com/yEsPAShd I installed with a usb flashdisk. Currently the computer does not boot without the flashdrive.
[09:46] <bekks> What happens without the USB flashdrive?
[09:48] <White_Cat> it cannot find an os to boot to
[09:48] <bekks> Whats the exact error message?
[09:48] <White_Cat> no boot disk
[09:48] <White_Cat> its not an error from ubuntu
[09:48] <bekks> Whats the _exact_ error, please?
[09:49] <bekks> Not just parts of it.
[09:49] <White_Cat> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201409-15510/
[09:49] <White_Cat> My server seems to be ubuntu certified
[09:49] <bekks> Can you please answer my question?
[09:49] <White_Cat> bekks the exact error is that it cannot find a boot device
[09:49] <White_Cat> it is configured to only look for cds, usb and hdds
[09:50] <bekks> No.
[09:50] <bekks> Just type the EXACT error. Dont tell us what you read there, or what you think the error is. Please just type the exact, unchanged error in here.
[09:51] <White_Cat> I dont want to walk to the server room to paraphrase the exact error
[09:51] <White_Cat> it is complaining about the absence of a valid boot drive
[09:51] <White_Cat> as if grub doesnt exist
[09:54] <bekks> Then install grub on a valid boot device instead of your USB flash.
[09:56] <White_Cat> I have no idea how to do that
[09:57] <White_Cat> it is on a raid 5 so I wonder if that is the problem
[09:57] <White_Cat> but then it shouldnt boot with the usb drive either
[09:59] <bekks> Hardware or Software RAID?
[09:59] <lordievader> Is your bios capable of booting from raid5 (note I have no experience with raids)
[09:59] <bekks> If it is a HW RAID controller, the BIOS/EFI can boot from it.
[10:03] <White_Cat> it is hardware raid
[10:04] <White_Cat> lordievader I am pretty sure bios should be able to boot from raid 5
[10:04] <White_Cat> it had UEFI which I had to disable to boot at all
[10:04] <White_Cat> I currently have ubuntu-server running
[10:04] <White_Cat> but it will not reboot if I remove the USB flash drive
[10:05] <White_Cat> I have too boot from the usb flash drive to boot from the hdds
[10:05] <White_Cat> at first I thought I installed to the usb drive somehow but that doesnt seem to be the case based on df -h
[10:06] <lordievader> Seems to me like you are piggybacking on the bootloader that is installed on the usb drive.
[10:06] <White_Cat> I imagine so
[10:06] <White_Cat> is there an ubuntu command to instll a boot loader
[10:08] <bekks> Which Ubuntu release do you use?
[10:09] <White_Cat> Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 LTS
[10:09] <White_Cat> 64bit
[10:22] <White_Cat> http://superuser.com/questions/176050/ubuntu-server-installed-from-usb-puts-grub-on-the-usb-drive-instead-of-the-hard
[10:22] <White_Cat> is that something I should try?
[10:22] <White_Cat> I really do not want to destroy my system :/
[10:29] <bekks> !grub2
[10:34] <White_Cat> I havent installed windows
[10:35] <White_Cat> I know what grub is
[10:35] <White_Cat> all I ask is if the link I provide something raitonal for the problem i have
[10:41] <bekks> White_Cat: So read what ubottu told you: "For more information and roubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2".
[10:42] <White_Cat> I just asked you if I should follow the information on the website I provided or not
[10:42] <White_Cat> its 3 commands
[10:42] <White_Cat> wouldnt it be easier just to specify that
[10:42] <White_Cat> rather than dumping me an entire man page
[10:43] <bekks> Well, I cant help you if you are refusing everything told. Good luck in soving your issue.
[10:44] <White_Cat> a simple yes no is all I expect
[10:44] <bekks> Since I gave you another link, the answer is "no".
[10:45] <bekks> It is up to you.
[10:46] <White_Cat> in that case possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading ?
[10:46] <bekks> No
[10:47] <White_Cat> so my only option is to read the entire Grub2 page and hope to the linux gods I do not break the machine entirey
[10:47] <bekks> No. Your only option is to use your brain and find the section "Installing/Reinstalling/Moving GRUB2"
[10:48] <bekks> Which is referenced in the TOC.
[10:52] <White_Cat> it isnt a matter of brain power
[10:52] <White_Cat> anyone with half a brain would be very hesitant to try things with the bootloader
[10:53] <bekks> However. You got everything you need. I gotta run.
[10:54] <White_Cat> I wish I had your confidence :)
[11:23] <linuxmint> Hi, I have 3 HDDs. # df -h only shows /dev/sda and not /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc. Do I need to reformat HDD b and C?
[11:32] <thor77> hi, i cant connect to my owncloud running on apache via https, my apache-site: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9610279/ yes, i enabled it, every https://... is redirected to my default site
[11:32] <thor77> apache2ctl -S -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9610304/
[12:08] <MaasTic> Hello all
[12:10] <MaasTic> Do anyone was able to submit a Windows 2012 image to the new MAAS (1.7) ? If yes, can you help me ?
[12:58] <linuxmint> How can I setup multiple hard drives for storage? Parition wit LVM, mhddfs or RAID? I would like 1 HDD to store, then when full, I use the 2nd HDD. I am trying to avoid if 1 HDD breaks, the other HDDs won't work too.
[13:03] <ikonia> linuxmint: you're looking for aa very bad way of storing data
[13:03] <ikonia> linuxmint: the easy way would be to mount disk1, then when iit's filling up, mount disk2 under it
[13:03] <linuxmint> ikonia: really, I don't know what the best idea is?
[13:03] <ikonia> however lvm / raid would be a better approach, but as you want to stripe, that is a risk
[13:04] <linuxmint> ikonia: yes, your idea sounds like what I'm looking for.
[13:06] <linuxmint> ikonia: but doesn't lvm / raid make the HDDs vulnerable...if one breaks, they all break?
[13:08] <ikonia> if you stripe, yes
[13:08] <ikonia> as I said, "that is a risk"
[13:08] <ikonia> this is why I said it's a very bad way of storing data at the start of the question
[13:09] <linuxmint> ikonia: sorry, I'm confused. Does stripe mean when I run HDD1, then HDD2 when HDD1 is full. This seems safe to me?
[13:09] <ikonia> linuxmint: it doesn't work like that
[13:09] <ikonia> linuxmint: stripe means make the 2 disks into 1 big virtual disk
[13:10] <linuxmint> ikonia: ok, well I think your idea of me just mounting HDD1, then mounting HDD2 when HDD1 is full. As long as HDD1 can still run the Ubuntu server OS.
[13:10] <ikonia> linuxmint: it can
[13:11] <linuxmint> ikonia: ok, well, I think manually mounting HDDs seems best for me for now, unless there's another possibility.
[13:15] <ikonia> seems the most logical simple solution
[13:43] <tom[]> how to install megactl, megacli etc. on 14.04?
[13:43] <tom[]> http://hwraid.le-vert.net/wiki/DebianPackages
[15:25] <kevindf> When starting my teamspeak server I get the error "sh: echo I/O error"
[15:25] <kevindf> when excecuting the startup shell
[15:25] <kevindf> Anyone know what might be the cause of that?
[16:18] <hariom> I have ntp installed but my server clock is lagging about 8 minutes. How to fix this?
[16:36] <Crell> Hi folks. I have a newly installed 14.04 ubuntu-server.  So far there's nothing on it but SSH and basic LAMP.  I am trying to copy old backup files over to it, but the server keeps losing its network connection.
[16:36] <Crell> It will be fine for a while, then suddenly stop connecting mid-transfer (via rsync).  I need to reboot, and then it connects to the network fine again.
[16:36] <Crell> Any idea what I should be checking?  syslog and dmesg didn't suggest anything obvious so far...  Running dhclient just pauses for a while then gives no output.
[16:37] <Stuxnet> Hi everyone. Easy newbie question here due to lack of linux terminal navigational skills. My server was going through do-release-upgrade for 14.04 and before choosing Yes to download, I typed "D" for details. Now I don't know how to exit and go back to where I was so I can choose Yes to proceed.
[16:38] <Stuxnet> I scrolled down to "END" and I'm stuck.
[16:38] <Crell> Stuxnet: Is there a "back" anywhere on the screen?
[16:38] <Stuxnet> No.
[16:38] <Stuxnet> It doesn't appear to be vim or nano or anything.
[16:38] <Crell> Is it a gui-ish window or just raw text?
[16:38] <Stuxnet> raw text.
[16:39] <Crell> Is there a colon at the bottom of the screen?
[16:39] <Stuxnet> Yes!
[16:39] <Crell> Then it's using "less".
[16:39] <Crell> Try hitting Q
[16:39] <Stuxnet> Awesome, thanks Crell
[16:39] <Stuxnet> Worked.
[16:39] <Crell> Sometime later type "man less" for more details on less.  Useful little tool.
[16:40] <Crell> Use Q to get out of the man page then, too. :-)
[16:40] <Stuxnet> Okay thanks. Is less the default ubuntu server text editor?
[16:40] <Crell> It's not an editor; it's a text file viewer.
[16:40] <Stuxnet> or viewer..
[16:40] <Stuxnet> oh okay.
[16:40] <Crell> It's the default viewer on... every system I've used in the last 10 years.
[16:40] <Stuxnet> Ah.
[16:41] <Crell> Lets you scroll up, down, search, and quit.
[16:41] <Crell> And that's about all I ever do with it. :-)
[16:42] <Stuxnet> Understood. I am Windows native and "grew up" with GUIs, I am even a newbie with command prompt, but I am experimenting with a home server so I am learning the terminal commands, it's fun though. Linux seems to be extremely easy and efficient.
[16:43] <Crell> Once you get the hang of it, it usually is.
[16:43] <Crell> Except when mystery errors happen, which has been my last 2-3 days. :-(
[16:44] <Stuxnet> I knew I was stuck in some type of text file, just didn't know the commands. If I'm editing I'm usually in nano.
[16:44] <Stuxnet> heh wow.
[16:46] <Crell> A lot of linux commands are written on the assumption that you already know how to use them.
[16:46] <Crell> That makes them very very efficient and fast to use once you do, but harder to pick up in the first place.
[16:46] <Crell> Contrast with a typical GUI approach which emphasizes learnability over expert-efficiency.
[16:46] <Crell> Different tradeoffs for different use cases.
[16:47] <Stuxnet> Now that I am here, before I go, maybe somebody can point me in the right direction as this is probably a common thing: The server is headless and I manage it by SSH with PuTTY. It's my understanding that if you reboot the services like open-ssh don't start until you log in.
[16:47] <Crell> Depends how they're configured.
[16:47] <Crell> The default ssh configuration does start on boot.
[16:47] <Crell> I think most that you install via apt start on boot by default...
[16:48] <Stuxnet> Okay. I seem to rememebr not being able to log in again after reboot but I will test it and make sure.
[16:48] <Crell> You definitely want to setup ssh keys, though, while you're there.
[16:48] <Stuxnet> Right. That was approaching on my to do list :P