[00:02] <popey> Happy Christmas! :D
[00:07] <daftykins> popey: and to you sir o/
[01:26] <zmoylan-pi> 365 days to christmas :-P
[01:27] <daftykins> D:
[08:58] <Myrtti> hullo
[08:59] <Myrtti> XPS 13 is teeny!
[09:06] <MartijnVdS> it's awesome though
[09:50] <ChunkzZ> Merry Christmas! :
[10:00] <SuperMatt> merry christmas :)
[10:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls, and happy christmas.
[10:19] <SuperMatt> would be happier if I wasn't WFH
[10:19] <brobostigon> wfh?
[10:19] <SuperMatt> working from home
[10:19] <SuperMatt> I've got to stay at my pc to take calls
[10:19] <brobostigon> :(
[10:20] <SuperMatt> I've already done about 6
[10:20] <SuperMatt> and I've updated 20 tickets
[10:20]  * brobostigon bought himself the old nexus 4.
[10:21] <shauno> gotta be better than working from the office.  I have the classic vending machine lunch - two packets of crisps and a snickers bar
[10:21] <brobostigon> :(
[10:22] <zmoylan-pi> but if you soak the snickers in the tape head cleaner it'll make the day fly by :-P
[10:23] <brobostigon> soak the snickers in whisky, make a snickers smoothie.
[10:34] <bashrc> happy christmas ubuntuers
[10:35] <zmoylan-pi> even those crazy x/k/lubuntu users? :-)
[10:39] <brobostigon> haiku'ers, :)
[10:40] <zmoylan-pi> even the last os/2 user
[10:41] <zmoylan-pi> but no cpm, we have to draw the line somewhere :-)
[10:43] <brobostigon> oh well.
[10:56] <bashrc> yes, I am a kubuntu user
[10:56]  * zmoylan-pi uses lubuntu and xubuntu
[14:01] <mapito> urgh
[14:01] <mapito> feel rough
[14:03] <mapito> gonna be one of those days
[14:03] <mapito> ;]
[14:16] <penguin42> is this feeling rough as a consequence of last night?
[14:17] <mapito> yes
[14:17] <mapito> gib closed 2
[14:17] <mapito> 12
[14:17] <mapito> so went into spain and bars were open till 5/6
[14:17] <mapito> of course i cant get enough
[14:17] <mapito> total idiot again
[14:18] <penguin42> so not so much last night as this morning
[14:19] <mapito> yea
[14:19] <mapito> got a kebab at 6am
[14:19] <mapito> and a can of cruzcampo
[14:19] <mapito> like a fool
[14:19] <mapito> clearly id had enough
[14:30] <zmoylan-pi> has anyone ever finished a story with the line 'got a kebab...' well?
[14:32] <mapito> ;]
[14:32] <mapito> it was nice
[14:32] <mapito> v nice
[14:32] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi, ` NO - but in the back garden I do I have a kebab well, so why I need any reading material about it?
[14:33] <mapito> then i phond a girl and pestered her to come out
[14:33] <mapito> argh
[14:33] <zmoylan-pi> it's a food group that only sells to those so flutered that common sense has been compleely silenced
[14:34] <mapito> well this kebab was nice
[14:34] <mapito> chicken kebab and a can o cruzcampo
[14:34] <mapito> like an alcoholic
[14:35] <mapito> what a mug
[14:36] <penguin42> mapito has a surprisingly good memory
[14:37] <mapito> whys it surprising
[14:38] <penguin42> well you must have been well pickled by then
[14:40] <mapito> clown behaviour b me again
[15:21] <mapito> getting too old to be doing it all the time
[15:22] <mapito> it's draining!
[16:10] <SuperEngineer> Severe weather warnings of more than 10cm of snow are issued by the Met Office for 26 December for some parts of the UK....
[16:10] <SuperEngineer> !st to build a 10cm snowman wins!
[16:11] <SuperEngineer> *1st
[16:12] <SuperEngineer> [& dear luboto3... you are dumber than I am, fool!
[16:12] <penguin42> yeh apparently we've got a chance of a little on Saturday
[16:13] <penguin42> heck, Sunday/Monday is looking like it's going to be around 0c; the last week or two has been pleasently above 10c
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> ok, guys & gals: pack drill time.  Candles ready, extra quilt ready, plumber called just in case
[16:14] <penguin42> no, yes, no, but I do have chocolate
[16:14] <SuperEngineer> ...dearest tux.... you may like it snow covered & frozen... I don't!
[16:15] <SuperEngineer> oooo chocolate..... darn - suddenly I feel unprepared!
[16:20] <penguin42> hmm, Amazon have a deal on the Sony DSCHX60 260->159 - I'd been eyeing it's cheaper older version that was typically retailing for 170 and was hoping someone would have that on sale, but I can't find anyone doing that cheaper
[16:22] <penguin42> (pocket camera with 30x optical zoom)
[18:14] <SuperEngineer> sshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!  it's Dr. Who time!
[18:24] <zmoylan-pi> dr. who saves the day /spoiler
[18:34] <SuperEngineer> surely - you mean "saves the Christmas Day" - fool!
[18:49] <zmoylan-pi> he has access to time travel he can save any day on christmas day he likes - noob!!
[19:15] <SuperEngineer> zmoylan-pi, not quite true - you need to be aware of the tangerine effect to understand that though ;)
[19:34] <StevenR_> hrmph. Updated to trusty. Rebooted. Grub says "file not found" and gives me a grub rescue> prompt.
[19:38] <penguin42> StevenR_: Oops
[19:38] <penguin42> StevenR_: Anything odd about your install?
[19:47] <StevenR_> penguin42: raid 1 /
[19:49] <penguin42> StevenR_: Ah
[19:50] <penguin42> StevenR_: Try telling your BIOS to boot off the other disk, my suspicion is that the grub.cfg is only on one of the drives?
[19:50] <penguin42> StevenR_: that might not help if the boot sector your booting off is just trying to read it off the wrong drive
[19:51] <StevenR_> ls shows all the partitions.
[19:51] <StevenR_> rebooting to try that now
[19:52] <penguin42> StevenR_: How many drives do you have in ? Just the two? Do you have any USB storage devices plugged in?
[19:52] <StevenR_> penguin42: 6.... I think
[19:52] <StevenR_> (it's my dad's Mythbox)
[19:52] <penguin42> StevenR_: Hmm, fun
[19:53] <StevenR_> from memory, 2xSSD RAID1 (system) 2x1.5TB (myth-data), 1x500GB (backups), SATA DVD
[19:53] <StevenR_> other ssd says file not found too
[19:53] <penguin42> StevenR_: Grub has to figure out a mapping between it's idea of say /dev/sda  and the BIOS drive number, so that it can then write into the boot sector which drive to go and read other bits off, if that gets screwed up odd things happen
[19:54] <penguin42> StevenR_: Similarly, if something like one half of your RAID has the grub.cfg on and it's trying to read it off that then it could happen
[19:55] <StevenR_> oo
[19:55] <StevenR_> grub appears to be written to one of the 1.5TB drives
[19:55] <StevenR_> login screen!
[19:58] <StevenR_> still got an error about some filter thing
[19:58] <Myrtti> new laptop ♥
[19:58] <penguin42> StevenR_: OK, make sure your RAID is sync'd
[20:03] <StevenR_> penguin42: mdadm says they are both in sync (two arrays)
[20:05] <penguin42> good good
[21:25] <StevenR_> penguin42: sorted I think - reinstalled grub to the SSDs
[21:26] <StevenR_> next problem - keyboard map reverts to US for xterms/XFCE4terminal/etc
[21:27] <StevenR_> I've run setxkbmap and sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration .... both fix it for that session, but if I reboot, then it's back to US
[21:28] <StevenR_> penguin42: thanks for the grub pointers btw
[21:41] <penguin42> StevenR_: No problem; with RAID1 just keep an eye out whether it works fine if one of the RAID pairs dies; I think Grub these days should know how to deal with RAID directly
[21:57] <StevenR_> penguin42: is rc.local still executed on boot in trusty? (there's a command that sends a mail, and the mail doesn't show up in either the dest or logs
[21:58] <penguin42> heck, not sure
[23:22] <daftykins> Happy Christmas to all in -uk :)
[23:22] <penguin42> hey daftykins
[23:23] <daftykins> hi sir, how goes your day?
[23:23] <penguin42> good, and yours?
[23:23] <daftykins> yep ta, just home now after visiting the olds :)
[23:23] <daftykins> now i can push tosh on the TV ;)
[23:25] <daftykins> heh there are some high frequencies the cat really doesn't like!
[23:27] <daftykins> penguin42: did you get yourself any new toys to play with today? :)
[23:30] <penguin42> daftykins: I've got myself a little dev board; ST Micro Nucleo board
[23:30] <penguin42> not done much with it yet, except checks it powers on and grabbed all the docs
[23:31] <daftykins> neat :D
[23:31] <penguin42> yeh, hopefully
[23:31] <daftykins> i got myself a bluray TV set of 'The Sopranos' and got it working under Linux with makemkv's libaacs substitute :D
[23:31] <penguin42> oh nice, I hadn't realised anyone had got bluray going
[23:32] <penguin42> (not that I have any bluray)
[23:33] <daftykins> i didn't until now :) i have an xbox one to play them too now but i thought it'd be a fun task to just give it a go too
[23:33] <daftykins> so my ubuntu running HTPC, with the addition of a makemkv PPA, quick file transplant and hey-presto XBMC/Kodi can play :)
[23:34] <penguin42> nice
[23:34] <daftykins> well, symlink of course :>
[23:35] <daftykins> it's more for films though i think, on my series discs it just kinda picks the longest title and plays that
[23:35] <daftykins> so there's no menu support
[23:41] <Azelphur> so, I just bought a chromecast, and it seems to...well, suck.
[23:42] <penguin42> Azelphur: Out of interest, in which particular way?
[23:42] <Azelphur> penguin42: well, the documentation on googles website says that you can push photos and video from your phone to the chromecast in the photos app
[23:42] <Azelphur> read the documentation, the button shown in the screenshots is not present on any of my devices, no way to push photos/videos out of the box.
[23:43] <penguin42> fun, is it enabled by some switch somewhere?
[23:43] <Azelphur> I heard that you have to turn on google plus photo uploads in order to be allowed to use it
[23:43] <penguin42> I vaguely remember a flag that sounded like something related but can't remember what
[23:44]  * penguin42 waits for his phone to boot
[23:44] <Azelphur> that said, the documentation makes no mention of any buttons, switches, or google plus requirements
[23:44] <Azelphur> it just says go into photos, select a photo, and hit the chromecast button
[23:44] <Azelphur> and, the button just plain isn't there, so that's frustrating.
[23:46] <Azelphur> so then I tried a bunch of third party apps, localcast, ES File explorer chromecast plugin, and bubbleupnp, none of them could stream recorded video from my phone to the TV without lots of buffering.
[23:46] <penguin42> where's the button supposed to be?
[23:46] <Azelphur> penguin42: https://support.google.com/plus/answer/6045071?hl=en click on "Android app"
[23:47] <penguin42> hmm maybe it was the 'wireless display certification' I was thinking of
[23:48] <penguin42> Azelphur: On mine under settings->display and lights->cast screen   do you have that?
[23:49] <Azelphur> penguin42: in Android settings? Yea I have that, that's for screen casting
[23:49] <Azelphur> but you can't really stream video over that, it's low framerate and choppy
[23:49] <penguin42> ah
[23:49] <Azelphur> it's not designed to do video
[23:50] <Azelphur> so yea, that was gripe #1
[23:51] <daftykins> i'm surprised it's giving you grief, everyone touts those things as the best since sliced bread
[23:51] <Azelphur> daftykins: exactly, that's why I bought a couple
[23:51] <Azelphur> but honestly I'm regretting the purchase, the only thing it's useful for is screencasting and youtube
[23:51] <Azelphur> and youtube Kodi already does, anyway. So it's pretty much just screen casting, and Miracast is better.
[23:52] <penguin42> Azelphur: I wonder if it expects some app installed or something being registered somehow to enable that button
[23:52] <Azelphur> penguin42: no idea, it's certainly not a update issue, my n5 is up to date, I've also tried it on a 4.4 N7 2012, and a Huawei Ascend Y300. None of them have the button present
[23:53] <penguin42> Azelphur: anything odd in the wifi setup on them?
[23:53] <daftykins> this may be quite dumb, but have you tried clearing the data and cache of the apps in question?
[23:53] <Azelphur> nope, standard Sky home setup.
[23:54] <Azelphur> daftykins: nope
[23:54] <daftykins> i tend to do that to sort out any android app woes i have
[23:55] <Azelphur> nope, after cache and data wipe button still isn't there - as I say if it was some kind of app issue it wouldn't be present on all 3 devices
[23:56] <Azelphur> so yea, tl;dr documentation is wrong, doesn't work.
[23:57] <daftykins> you raise a fair point there
[23:57] <daftykins> i've never touched one so don't really know how they function
[23:57] <daftykins> although lemme just go into the same apps on my Nexus 4
[23:57] <Azelphur> xD
[23:58] <Azelphur> oh the other rant I had about it, volume control was extremely laggy
[23:58] <Azelphur> press volume down - wait 20 seconds
[23:58] <daftykins> which incidentally became super unresponsive on the lock screen earlier, then promptly reset itself =|
[23:58] <Azelphur> and there was nothing wrong with the wifi, all in the same room as the router, and I could shove 5.6MB/sec over it
[23:59] <daftykins> well i have no device on my network so i guess mine is a moot point ;x
[23:59] <daftykins> but yeah i'm on a pic and i don't see the icon ;)
[23:59] <daftykins> i have it in youtube though since my youtube app is paired with my TV