xubuntu15w | i did that too | 00:02 |
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xubuntu15w | i kinda liked the way voyager has the dock at the bottom but i like being able to just right click and bring up the aplcation doilog | 00:04 |
knome | you can change your panel configuration to be similar in xubuntu too if you wish | 00:04 |
xubuntu15w | yes i looked at that but decided i didnt really care for that I have an i mac with maverick and the lap top my Mom uses i put xubuntu voyager on and like the way it looks andfunctions but alot of it is not nessicary | 00:07 |
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knome | fyi, voyager doesn't have anything else to do with xubuntu except it's based on xubuntu - it's not official, there is no cooperation between the two teams | 00:09 |
knome | so there isn't really an OS called "xubuntu voyager" | 00:09 |
xubuntu15w | yes i know the voyager guys are al french | 00:10 |
xubuntu15w | I like the help the have pretty good suport exept the is a slight language barier | 00:11 |
xubuntu15w | there | 00:11 |
xubuntu15w | I found the os qiute simaller though | 00:13 |
knome | of course, most of voyager comes directly from xubuntu | 00:13 |
knome | anyway, if you want to continue the discussion, you can join our general chatter channel at #xubuntu-offtopic :) | 00:14 |
xubuntu15w | also i got the voyager theme or whatever out of linux mag cd ok thanks | 00:14 |
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xubuntu89w | I need help | 03:02 |
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windobu | how can I remove the icons on the window buttons? | 05:17 |
cfhowlett | system > appearance > settings > Toolbar Style > Text | 05:18 |
windobu | Where is this? I googled this and they said to edit the gtk theme itself, but I figured there was an easier way | 05:21 |
brainacid | using xmonad w/ xubunt 14.04 | 11:21 |
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brainacid | hey | 12:09 |
brainwash | hi | 12:09 |
brainacid | hi brainwash | 12:35 |
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rosaecaeruleae | hi, I have a problem with radiotray. Terminal output here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/7eRgvEdR64 | 16:39 |
brainwash | rosaecaeruleae: bug 1033421 | 18:51 |
ubottu | bug 1033421 in radiotray (Ubuntu) "fails to start due to XML error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033421 | 18:51 |
brainwash | rosaecaeruleae: I suggest that you try to google for a solution before asking here | 18:51 |
rosaecaeruleae | thx brainwash + | 18:57 |
brainwash | you're welcome :) | 18:58 |
flux242 | yep, always ready to brainwash you again | 19:00 |
flux242 | ; ) | 19:00 |
squeegily | I have an Acer Aspire One 751h that can't suspend on Linux. Well, it suspends OK, but then it won't respond to any keys or the power button. | 19:33 |
squeegily | I already tried pm-suspend with different combinations of quirks | 19:33 |
squeegily | Once it worked when I used --quirk-s3-bios, but I couldn't figure out why it happened to work that time | 19:34 |
squeegily | Windows XP suspends and resumes without issue on this laptop | 19:35 |
squeegily | I've already scrubbed Google | 19:36 |
brainwash | squeegily: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend ? | 19:37 |
squeegily | brainwash: Okay.. Installing the mainline kernel nw | 19:47 |
squeegily | brainwash: Okay, did the pm_trace. System suspended and I pulled the battery. After it booted, I did dmesg | less and searched for "hash" and didn't find what it said to look for. | 19:52 |
squeegily | The thing is, I think it's related to the BIOS since it doesn't even start to resume (no HDD access, the power light never turns green for a second) and the --quirk-s3-bios worked once | 19:53 |
squeegily | IT WORKED AGAIN | 19:55 |
squeegily | I booted with init=/bin/sh and then ran mount -o remount,rw /; pm-suspend --quirk-vbemode-restore | 19:55 |
brainwash | squeegily: sadly I have no idea how to deal with this problem, it's basically trial & error | 19:56 |
squeegily | I'm really having a hard time nailing down the constants | 19:56 |
squeegily | I can't tell what makes it work.. I haven't found the pattern yet | 19:57 |
squeegily | The thing is, I'm a student going to do the NM supercomputing challenge, and coding on Windows is not an option.. but a laptop that can't sleep.... :/ | 19:57 |
squeegily | Is just as much fun | 19:57 |
brainwash | but that's linux, some things just don't work out of the box or don't work at all | 19:59 |
squeegily | Okay, running it with init=/bin/sh and then running pm-suspend --quirk-vbemode-restore DID work, but just now I tried suspending with --quirk-vbemode-restore in /etc/pm/config.d/gma500 and that didn't work | 19:59 |
brainwash | gma500 :/ | 19:59 |
squeegily | Yeah Intel hardware is fun | 20:00 |
squeegily | My Radeon HD 4350 was easier to use with Linux than this | 20:00 |
brainwash | I'm using the acer travelmate 8471 (gm45 + radeon 4330) | 20:01 |
squeegily | Right now I have /etc/pm/config.d/gma500 containing the line: "ADD_PARAMETERS='--quirk-vbemode-restore'" | 20:02 |
squeegily | Without the double-quotes | 20:02 |
squeegily | What should I do? | 20:02 |
squeegily | I ran pm-suspend from a console and it didn't work | 20:03 |
brainwash | well, the obvious answer: buy some better hardware :> | 20:03 |
squeegily | Crash again | 20:03 |
squeegily | Yeah I just got $100 for christmas to go towards my computer savings | 20:03 |
squeegily | This is a gift from a friend who didn't need it anymore | 20:03 |
brainwash | you could file a bug report, but this bring you a solution any time soon | 20:04 |
squeegily | It still has the XP installation on it because I knew something like this would happen when I installed Linux | 20:04 |
brainwash | which xubuntu version? | 20:04 |
squeegily | I think I figured it out | 20:05 |
squeegily | 14.04 | 20:05 |
squeegily | I installed it yesterday | 20:05 |
brainwash | maybe it's worth to test 14.10 or even 15.04 (dev release) | 20:05 |
squeegily | Perhaps the constant is the console | 20:05 |
squeegily | How can I disable the graphical driver for the VTTYs? | 20:06 |
squeegily | It seems that if the console looked all blurry (like with init=/bin/sh), it resumed fine | 20:06 |
brainwash | you want to unload the gpu driver (kernel module)? | 20:07 |
squeegily | I just want the vTTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6) to not have good resolution | 20:09 |
squeegily | Like 1360x768 | 20:09 |
squeegily | I'm looking up stuff about Grub now | 20:09 |
brainwash | so you want to disable modesetting | 20:09 |
squeegily | I just booted with nomodeset and the console still looks sharp.. in a second I'll see if suspend works | 20:10 |
squeegily | Nope | 20:11 |
squeegily | Perhaps I need to try the GFX_PAYLOAD thing | 20:11 |
squeegily | I used an Ubuntu derivative so I didn't have to do this stuff :( | 20:15 |
brainwash | but your gpu is trash (not supported by intel) | 20:15 |
brainwash | so don't expect any miracles | 20:16 |
squeegily | The point of Linux is you can pull a computer out of the trash, boot up a USB, and it becomes working | 20:16 |
squeegily | I expected a miracle :( | 20:17 |
squeegily | Okay, Grub is using 1360x768. How can I make the console use the same resolution? | 20:17 |
brainwash | it won't work properly if the driver support is broken, incomplete or missing | 20:17 |
squeegily | Ugh Grub didn't even use the right resolution | 20:18 |
squeegily | I'll take a break for now | 20:18 |
squeegily | Bye | 20:18 |
brainwash | well, please head over to the grub channel :) | 20:18 |
brainwash | ok, good luck | 20:18 |
squeegily | Thanks for your helo | 20:18 |
squeegily | Help* | 20:18 |
bjorn_ | Hi there, just installed xubuntu 14.10 and have problem with computer suspending upon closing lid. is this a known bug? | 20:55 |
deshipu | bjorn_: what bug? | 20:56 |
bjorn_ | deshipu, before installing 14.10 I could close the lid and nothing would happen, now it suspends. | 20:59 |
deshipu | bjorn_: you can set it in the power manager settings | 21:00 |
bjorn_ | deshipu, But it does not work for me | 21:01 |
bjorn_ | therefore i ask | 21:01 |
deshipu | I don't know, you could look for it on launchpad | 21:03 |
bjorn_ | deshipu, ok. | 21:04 |
bjorn_ | thank you | 21:04 |
flux242 | bjorn_: there was a bug related suspending. | 21:06 |
flux242 | at least in 14.04 | 21:06 |
bjorn_ | Now it wakes up with the screen lit, its better than in 14.04, then it did not turn on the screen. | 21:08 |
bjorn_ | but | 21:09 |
bjorn_ | it is still annoying that it suspends... | 21:09 |
flux242 | you set it to not suspend? | 21:09 |
flux242 | try this: xset -dpms; xset s 0 0; xset s off & | 21:12 |
bjorn_ | it there such an option (explicit) | 21:12 |
bjorn_ | ok.. | 21:12 |
bjorn_ | no difference | 21:14 |
flux242 | ok, there was some option to activate, cannot remember | 21:14 |
bjorn_ | and one probably trivial question, how can I see the battery percentage in the panel :] | 21:23 |
bjorn_ | found it, had to click the battery, surely trivial! | 21:27 |
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