[00:02] i did that too [00:04] i kinda liked the way voyager has the dock at the bottom but i like being able to just right click and bring up the aplcation doilog [00:04] you can change your panel configuration to be similar in xubuntu too if you wish [00:07] yes i looked at that but decided i didnt really care for that I have an i mac with maverick and the lap top my Mom uses i put xubuntu voyager on and like the way it looks andfunctions but alot of it is not nessicary === zz_XeBlackWater is now known as XeBlackWater [00:09] fyi, voyager doesn't have anything else to do with xubuntu except it's based on xubuntu - it's not official, there is no cooperation between the two teams [00:09] so there isn't really an OS called "xubuntu voyager" [00:10] yes i know the voyager guys are al french [00:11] I like the help the have pretty good suport exept the is a slight language barier [00:11] there [00:13] I found the os qiute simaller though [00:13] of course, most of voyager comes directly from xubuntu [00:14] anyway, if you want to continue the discussion, you can join our general chatter channel at #xubuntu-offtopic :) [00:14] also i got the voyager theme or whatever out of linux mag cd ok thanks === XeBlackWater is now known as zz_XeBlackWater === SonikkuAmerica is now known as S-USA|Santa [03:02] I need help === genii is now known as ChristmasPresent === ChristmasPresent is now known as genii [05:17] how can I remove the icons on the window buttons? [05:18] system > appearance > settings > Toolbar Style > Text [05:21] Where is this? I googled this and they said to edit the gtk theme itself, but I figured there was an easier way [11:21] using xmonad w/ xubunt 14.04 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [12:09] hey [12:09] hi [12:35] hi brainwash === S-USA|Santa is now known as SonikkuAmerica === SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica [16:39] hi, I have a problem with radiotray. Terminal output here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/7eRgvEdR64 [18:51] rosaecaeruleae: bug 1033421 [18:51] bug 1033421 in radiotray (Ubuntu) "fails to start due to XML error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033421 [18:51] rosaecaeruleae: I suggest that you try to google for a solution before asking here [18:57] thx brainwash + [18:58] you're welcome :) [19:00] yep, always ready to brainwash you again [19:00] ; ) [19:33] I have an Acer Aspire One 751h that can't suspend on Linux. Well, it suspends OK, but then it won't respond to any keys or the power button. [19:33] I already tried pm-suspend with different combinations of quirks [19:34] Once it worked when I used --quirk-s3-bios, but I couldn't figure out why it happened to work that time [19:35] Windows XP suspends and resumes without issue on this laptop [19:36] I've already scrubbed Google [19:37] squeegily: did you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend ? [19:47] brainwash: Okay.. Installing the mainline kernel nw [19:52] brainwash: Okay, did the pm_trace. System suspended and I pulled the battery. After it booted, I did dmesg | less and searched for "hash" and didn't find what it said to look for. [19:53] The thing is, I think it's related to the BIOS since it doesn't even start to resume (no HDD access, the power light never turns green for a second) and the --quirk-s3-bios worked once [19:55] IT WORKED AGAIN [19:55] I booted with init=/bin/sh and then ran mount -o remount,rw /; pm-suspend --quirk-vbemode-restore [19:56] squeegily: sadly I have no idea how to deal with this problem, it's basically trial & error [19:56] I'm really having a hard time nailing down the constants [19:57] I can't tell what makes it work.. I haven't found the pattern yet [19:57] The thing is, I'm a student going to do the NM supercomputing challenge, and coding on Windows is not an option.. but a laptop that can't sleep.... :/ [19:57] Is just as much fun [19:59] but that's linux, some things just don't work out of the box or don't work at all [19:59] Okay, running it with init=/bin/sh and then running pm-suspend --quirk-vbemode-restore DID work, but just now I tried suspending with --quirk-vbemode-restore in /etc/pm/config.d/gma500 and that didn't work [19:59] gma500 :/ [20:00] Yeah Intel hardware is fun [20:00] My Radeon HD 4350 was easier to use with Linux than this [20:01] I'm using the acer travelmate 8471 (gm45 + radeon 4330) [20:02] Right now I have /etc/pm/config.d/gma500 containing the line: "ADD_PARAMETERS='--quirk-vbemode-restore'" [20:02] Without the double-quotes [20:02] What should I do? [20:03] I ran pm-suspend from a console and it didn't work [20:03] well, the obvious answer: buy some better hardware :> [20:03] Crash again [20:03] Yeah I just got $100 for christmas to go towards my computer savings [20:03] This is a gift from a friend who didn't need it anymore [20:04] you could file a bug report, but this bring you a solution any time soon [20:04] It still has the XP installation on it because I knew something like this would happen when I installed Linux [20:04] which xubuntu version? [20:05] I think I figured it out [20:05] 14.04 [20:05] I installed it yesterday [20:05] maybe it's worth to test 14.10 or even 15.04 (dev release) [20:05] Perhaps the constant is the console [20:06] How can I disable the graphical driver for the VTTYs? [20:06] It seems that if the console looked all blurry (like with init=/bin/sh), it resumed fine [20:07] you want to unload the gpu driver (kernel module)? [20:09] I just want the vTTYs (Ctrl+Alt+F1-F6) to not have good resolution [20:09] Like 1360x768 [20:09] I'm looking up stuff about Grub now [20:09] so you want to disable modesetting [20:10] I just booted with nomodeset and the console still looks sharp.. in a second I'll see if suspend works [20:11] Nope [20:11] Perhaps I need to try the GFX_PAYLOAD thing [20:15] I used an Ubuntu derivative so I didn't have to do this stuff :( [20:15] but your gpu is trash (not supported by intel) [20:16] so don't expect any miracles [20:16] The point of Linux is you can pull a computer out of the trash, boot up a USB, and it becomes working [20:17] I expected a miracle :( [20:17] Okay, Grub is using 1360x768. How can I make the console use the same resolution? [20:17] it won't work properly if the driver support is broken, incomplete or missing [20:18] Ugh Grub didn't even use the right resolution [20:18] I'll take a break for now [20:18] Bye [20:18] well, please head over to the grub channel :) [20:18] ok, good luck [20:18] Thanks for your helo [20:18] Help* [20:55] Hi there, just installed xubuntu 14.10 and have problem with computer suspending upon closing lid. is this a known bug? [20:56] bjorn_: what bug? [20:59] deshipu, before installing 14.10 I could close the lid and nothing would happen, now it suspends. [21:00] bjorn_: you can set it in the power manager settings [21:01] deshipu, But it does not work for me [21:01] therefore i ask [21:03] I don't know, you could look for it on launchpad [21:04] deshipu, ok. [21:04] thank you [21:06] bjorn_: there was a bug related suspending. [21:06] at least in 14.04 [21:08] Now it wakes up with the screen lit, its better than in 14.04, then it did not turn on the screen. [21:09] but [21:09] it is still annoying that it suspends... [21:09] you set it to not suspend? [21:12] try this: xset -dpms; xset s 0 0; xset s off & [21:12] it there such an option (explicit) [21:12] ok.. [21:14] no difference [21:14] ok, there was some option to activate, cannot remember [21:23] and one probably trivial question, how can I see the battery percentage in the panel :] [21:27] found it, had to click the battery, surely trivial! === svteoi is now known as __svteoi