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| dsuhaimi | hello? | 04:44 |
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| tomatto | hi, please how can i upgrade lubuntu 12.10 to new 14.10? | 15:19 |
| tomatto | when i run apt-get update it can't found repo and download updates | 15:20 |
| JackFrost | !eolupgrades | 15:26 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 15:26 |
| Buddyb | hey zy3pd | 16:16 |
| zy3pD | hi Buddyb | 16:16 |
| Buddyb | how's it going | 16:17 |
| zy3pD | it's the same like whats up? | 16:17 |
| Buddyb | yes, same thing | 16:18 |
| zy3pD | cool new words for my english knowledge ^^ | 16:19 |
| zy3pD | ...i deactivated ip v6 some minutes before | 16:20 |
| Buddyb | what's ip v6? | 16:21 |
| zy3pD | its a new version of the ip protocol(which is used in the www) | 16:22 |
| zy3pD | the old was ip v4 and my network runs with ip v4 so i dont need it | 16:23 |
| Buddyb | oh ok | 16:23 |
| zy3pD | and do you have problems with lubuntu again? ;) | 16:23 |
| Buddyb | every now and then, sometimes it does not work, but it's ok | 16:24 |
| Buddyb | sometimes i turn the computer on, and once i'm logged in, it defaults to the original wallpaper, the screen is blank, and i can only move my mouse up/down in a straight line | 16:25 |
| Buddyb | so then i have to shut it down and start back up | 16:25 |
| zy3pD | yeah thats not cool, but lubuntu is such a minimalistic system ... we have to accept that :D | 16:25 |
| zy3pD | if your pc has more power then linux mint maybe is a better choice | 16:26 |
| zy3pD | btw do you know how many ram/cpu your pc has? | 16:26 |
| Buddyb | it's a laptop, it's decent. has 6 gb ram, 500 gb hdd and a second gen core i5 | 16:27 |
| zy3pD | and which speed has the cpu (e.g. 1,2GHz) and how many cores? (e.g. quadcore or dualcore) | 16:28 |
| Buddyb | i believe 2 cores at 2.5 ghz | 16:29 |
| Buddyb | how do I check that on my computer? i'm so used to windows | 16:29 |
| zy3pD | i use hardinfo for that | 16:30 |
| Buddyb | ok cool | 16:30 |
| Buddyb | yes, those are my specs | 16:31 |
| Buddyb | 2 core 2.5 ghz | 16:31 |
| Buddyb | here's the thing, i use it for work, so i need it to be as stable and reliable as possible | 16:31 |
| zy3pD | on lubuntu it is preinstalled (system profiler and benchmark) | 16:31 |
| zy3pD | ok | 16:32 |
| zy3pD | do you play any big games or things like that on it? | 16:33 |
| Buddyb | no, just work | 16:33 |
| Buddyb | the laptop isn't powerful enough to play any games | 16:33 |
| Buddyb | at least graphic intense games i'd be interested in | 16:33 |
| Buddyb | i like ubuntu, but dislike unity | 16:34 |
| Buddyb | lubuntu is pretty good so far, but not perfect | 16:34 |
| zy3pD | i play on my laptop(dualcore, 1GHz) minecraft! :D | 16:34 |
| teward | Buddyb: that *might* be able to run Mint. It can definitely run Lubuntu though (my older laptop was a weaker dualcore with 3.5GB RAM, and Lubuntu ran fine) | 16:34 |
| Buddyb | but i am using the 14.10 release, would the 14.04 version work a little cleaner you think? | 16:34 |
| teward | but I do NOT advise using Mint - because it's an unsupported variant | 16:34 |
| teward | Buddyb: 14.04 is probably more stable (but I stick to LTSes for stability, and power-user backport things which I need newer) | 16:35 |
| Buddyb | teward, thanks. i pretty much want a distro that i can get support easily for online, i.e. in these forums | 16:35 |
| teward | yeah, I push for Ubuntu and its variants, not the derivatives of Mint and such | 16:35 |
| zy3pD | i also use 14.04.1 ... good idea teward | 16:35 |
| Buddyb | teward, if i swtiched from 14.10 to 14.04 lubuntu do you think i would notice a difference? in errors, issues i'm having? | 16:36 |
| zy3pD | no the theme is a bit different ... | 16:36 |
| teward | Buddyb: forgive me but i don't have your errors scrollback so I don't know how to answer that | 16:36 |
| Buddyb | well not so much errors, it's just that i have issues from time to time | 16:37 |
| Buddyb | for instance | 16:37 |
| teward | i can say the theme is a tiny bit different | 16:37 |
| teward | Buddyb: there's always going to be nitpicky stupid edge case issues for everyone | 16:37 |
| teward | i run into them regularly | 16:37 |
| teward | in all variants | 16:37 |
| Buddyb | i have 2 monitors plugged in to laptop, set the autostart and ran the script to where the monitors are extended. randomly the monitors will start up on mirrored | 16:38 |
| teward | you might have *less* errors, yes | 16:38 |
| teward | but you'll still have issues. | 16:38 |
| teward | ah, okay, I don't use Lubuntu with triple screens | 16:38 |
| Buddyb | sometimes when i start the computer i can't do anything, it reverts to the default wallpaper, can only move mouse up/down, and can't access anything | 16:38 |
| teward | Buddyb: you can always try, but I ALWAYS suggest backing up data | 16:38 |
| zy3pD | teward, we created an autostart script in /etc/xdg/autostart | 16:39 |
| Buddyb | well i just installed lubuntu sunday, not much on here so no worries for trying new things | 16:39 |
| Buddyb | it's a dual screen setup | 16:39 |
| teward | triple if you include the laptop :P | 16:40 |
| teward | unless it's just the external and your laptop | 16:40 |
| * teward has a triple screen setup o.o | 16:40 | |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, one idea is that you test linux mint mate (i dont like it because of the ugly green ^^) or you downgrade to lubuntu 14.04.1 | 16:40 |
| zy3pD | teward, on laptop or pc? | 16:41 |
| Buddyb | its laptop plus 2 external but only 2 work at a time, the 2 external | 16:41 |
| teward | zy3pD: on my laptop. | 16:41 |
| teward | zy3pD: VGA -> DVI, HDMI -> DVI, external butterfly monitors | 16:41 |
| zy3pD | ahhh i tried 3 screens with 2 gpus but it didnt worked | 16:41 |
| teward | the third screen is my laptop's screen | 16:41 |
| Buddyb | If I downgrade to 14.04 do i just need to reinstall it? | 16:43 |
| zy3pD | yes but dont expect your files to be saved ... so do a backup! | 16:43 |
| Buddyb | well what do you suggest between ubuntu and lubuntu? | 16:44 |
| zy3pD | lubuntu<linux mint<ubuntu | 16:45 |
| zy3pD | or what do you mean? | 16:45 |
| Buddyb | if you had to suggest a distro for me to use, which one do you think is best | 16:45 |
| Buddyb | i'm not sure the diff between ubunut and lubuntu, not sure how much slower ubuntu would be | 16:46 |
| teward | ubuntu and its variants. | 16:46 |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, you dont like unity right? | 16:46 |
| Buddyb | teward, when you say variants does that include mint, or lubuntu, xubunut etc | 16:46 |
| Buddyb | zy3pd, right, can i install cinnamon on ubuntu? | 16:47 |
| teward | Buddyb: Ubuntu.Xubuntu,Lubuntu,Kubuntu,Ubuntu GNOME | 16:47 |
| teward | Buddyb: i call mint and elementary and such that are based on ubuntu derivatives | 16:47 |
| teward | because they're based off of Ubuntu but they make changes | 16:47 |
| Buddyb | ok | 16:47 |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, yes but you can also use linux mint cinnamon there is cinnamon preinstalled and configurated and works with the other system components | 16:47 |
| Buddyb | and how would you compare support for lubuntu vs. ubuntu? the same or will things vary | 16:48 |
| Buddyb | for instance if i have a probelm in lubuntu, is it harder to fix or the same as an ubuntu issue | 16:48 |
| Buddyb | zy3pd, i mean can you install cinnamon on ubuntu, not linux mint cinnamon | 16:48 |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, if it is a problem with the gui then it is harder ... if it is a problem with the system the it is the same | 16:49 |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, yes you can install cinnamon on ubuntu but for me this doesnt make sence because with linux mint cinnamon there exists a ubuntu based distro which already has cinnamon | 16:50 |
| teward | i thought cinnamon already it the repos | 16:51 |
| teward | zy3pD: he loses Ubuntu support vectors since Mint changes their repositories substantially | 16:51 |
| teward | his goal is to use a variant that has web support like this one that is useful | 16:51 |
| teward | (I believe) | 16:51 |
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| Buddyb | yes correct | 16:51 |
| Buddyb | so before i had linux lite for a while, which was a derivative of ubuntu | 16:52 |
| Buddyb | i loved it, it looked great, no bugs that i came across, but when i had a question, issue, it was hard to get help | 16:52 |
| Buddyb | i loaded ubuntu 14.04 to a usb. i'm going to reboot and give it a try | 17:03 |
| Buddyb | thanks for the help, i'll be back a little later | 17:03 |
| teward | Buddyb: Ubuntu or Lubuntu? | 17:03 |
| Buddyb | ubuntu | 17:03 |
| Buddyb | i am currently on lubuntu 14.10 | 17:03 |
| Buddyb | so trying ubuntu 14.04 | 17:03 |
| teward | Buddyb: don't forget that Ubuntu is in #ubuntu if you come back seeking support | 17:03 |
| teward | if you want a similar DE to lubuntu 14.10 use lubuntu 14.04 | 17:04 |
| Buddyb | yes, correct | 17:04 |
| teward | as Ubuntu is *vastly* different | 17:04 |
| Buddyb | yes, i've played with it before, but not too much | 17:04 |
| Buddyb | my needs are faily basic as most of my work is done online | 17:04 |
| Buddyb | i'll spend some time in it and be back a little later | 17:05 |
| Buddyb | thanks again | 17:05 |
| markus_ | hi everyone. I'm new in the linux-world. I've startet with Lubuntu and now i would like to know, is there a easy way to get the "original" lxde dark theme? | 18:41 |
| zy3pD | with the application lxappereance you can change the theme | 18:43 |
| markus_ | thaks for your answer ,with this tool i got the windows "black" with the cleanlooks theme and onyx but didn't get the lxde theme on the bar at the bottom | 18:44 |
| zy3pD | rightclick on the bar→panel-settings→sec tab | 18:46 |
| markus_ | alright i'll try, thanks :) | 18:47 |
| Buddyb | hey all | 19:31 |
| zy3pD | hi Buddyb | 19:32 |
| teward | o/ | 19:32 |
| Buddyb | so i've been playing around in ubuntu for a little bit | 19:33 |
| zy3pD | 14.04? | 19:34 |
| Buddyb | yes | 19:34 |
| zy3pD | tried dualscreen setup? | 19:34 |
| zy3pD | i think ubuntu handels this automaticly so you dont need to change anything | 19:35 |
| teward | ehhh you might | 19:35 |
| teward | especially if you have a hybrid graphics card | 19:35 |
| Buddyb | it was fairly straight forward | 19:35 |
| teward | (observed on my laptop) | 19:35 |
| Buddyb | no graphics card, intel built in graphics | 19:35 |
| Buddyb | its a laptop with no discrete gpu | 19:36 |
| Buddyb | so check it out, here is a link to my current lubuntu setup | 19:36 |
| teward | good | 19:36 |
| tomatto | what is difference between lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu minimal instalation? | 19:36 |
| Buddyb | don't be mad, i'm easing myself away from windows... this helps me feel a little more comfortable | 19:36 |
| Buddyb | http://a.pomf.se/ewiyxr.png | 19:36 |
| * teward throws dark matter at Buddyb | 19:37 | |
| Buddyb | haha I said forgive me | 19:37 |
| Buddyb | I can't quit cold turkey, i need to take baby steps | 19:37 |
| teward | nope, i think i'll just dump my dark matter and exotic particles from cross-dimensional energy generation onto your workspace :p | 19:37 |
| teward | (sorry, i'm just kidding :P) | 19:37 |
| Buddyb | i know you are, trust me i dislike windows very much | 19:38 |
| Buddyb | but it helps me feel at home, what i'm used to | 19:38 |
| Buddyb | so | 19:38 |
| Buddyb | i like in lubuntu how i can have the panel at the bottom, and that it extends across both displays | 19:38 |
| Buddyb | and i like how if i have a firefox window open it will display it in the taskbar | 19:39 |
| zy3pD | but its in many de s like that, only in windows not ;) | 19:39 |
| Buddyb | yes, so i want a distro that can look like this | 19:39 |
| Buddyb | with a "start" button, and tabs on the bottom panel | 19:40 |
| zy3pD | e.g. lubuntu? ;) | 19:40 |
| teward | he means windows :P | 19:41 |
| Buddyb | yea so to me lubuntu seems closer to windows than ubuntu | 19:47 |
| zy3pD | Buddyb, if it look like windows then try zorin os ;P | 19:47 |
| Buddyb | really it's between ubuntu and lubuntu, and since i have 14.10, i want to install 14.04, so i need to reinstall regardless | 19:47 |
| Buddyb | yes, but will zorin be as compatible, and will i be able to get support and answers online easily? | 19:48 |
| wxl | Buddyb: it *IS* linux. you can configure it any way you want. | 19:48 |
| zy3pD | as i said: if you have problems with the graphical user interface then you will get less support, there is no difference if you ask for system issues | 19:49 |
| Buddyb | ok | 19:49 |
| janolap1 | hi there, I would like to try to add some "eyecandy" to my lubuntu box. So I go to gnome-look, download the tar.gz file from http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473 | 21:08 |
| janolap1 | then I go to customize look and feel, but I don't know what to do next... | 21:09 |
| janolap1 | The "custom look and feel" application crashes when I go to "icons theme" and trying to install the .tar.gz file | 21:14 |
| ianorlin | janolap1: what version of lubuntu are you using? | 21:15 |
| ianorlin | does a window open up to choose the theme? | 21:15 |
| janolap1 | hummm... I don't know... | 21:15 |
| janolap1 | I think it's 14.04, or 14.10 | 21:16 |
| ianorlin | lsb_release -rd in terminal will tell you | 21:16 |
| janolap1 | ok, it' 14.04 | 21:16 |
| ianorlin | do you know what kind of theme you are trying to install? | 21:16 |
| janolap1 | this one : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473 | 21:17 |
| teward | ianorlin: GTK - (from #linuxpadawan) [14/12/26 16:11:56] <janolap1> Hi there, I would like to add a GTK3 theme on my Lubuntu Box (this one : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473). But I don't know how to do this... | 21:17 |
| ianorlin | I am not sure if GTK3 themes will work | 21:18 |
| janolap1 | What kind of theme should work ? | 21:19 |
| ianorlin | I think it should support gtk2 and gtk3 | 21:20 |
| janolap1 | ianorlin : I will try first an icons theme... | 21:20 |
| janolap1 | step by step... | 21:20 |
| ianorlin | ah yeah that button is for icon themes | 21:22 |
| ianorlin | I think you have to do gtk themes manually | 21:22 |
| janolap1 | Do you think it's the same for icons ? | 21:22 |
| janolap1 | ok, for the icons, I unpack the tar.gz into ~/.icons and use "Customize look and feel" after. Working | 21:25 |
| janolap1 | let's try the theme now... | 21:26 |
| janolap1 | could i create a ~/.theme directory for this ? | 21:26 |
| janolap1 | Yes ! it's working like icons... | 21:29 |
| ararob | hi, I've created a .desktop file on my desktop, and pointed it to a bash script like this, Exec=lxterminal --working-directory=/home/ara/nfs3.sh -e ./nfs3.sh, but lxterm just opens, and nothing happens. | 21:30 |
| ararob | er, i meant --working-directory=/home/ara of course. | 21:31 |
| janolap1 | But I can't se the caption in the TaskBar pannel... to light... | 21:31 |
| ararob | nvm, got it to work. | 21:41 |
| Ahmuck_ | i have a panel which i set to dynamic. however i thought i would change it back but am not able to click the panel (as it only has a task manager assigned to it and clicking the buttons do not bring up a panel modificaion menu | 22:38 |
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