=== SonikkuAmerica_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica === Guest11685 is now known as rww [04:44] hello? === Metachristmas is now known as Metacity [15:19] hi, please how can i upgrade lubuntu 12.10 to new 14.10? [15:20] when i run apt-get update it can't found repo and download updates [15:26] !eolupgrades [15:26] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [16:16] hey zy3pd [16:16] hi Buddyb [16:17] how's it going [16:17] it's the same like whats up? [16:18] yes, same thing [16:19] cool new words for my english knowledge ^^ [16:20] ...i deactivated ip v6 some minutes before [16:21] what's ip v6? [16:22] its a new version of the ip protocol(which is used in the www) [16:23] the old was ip v4 and my network runs with ip v4 so i dont need it [16:23] oh ok [16:23] and do you have problems with lubuntu again? ;) [16:24] every now and then, sometimes it does not work, but it's ok [16:25] sometimes i turn the computer on, and once i'm logged in, it defaults to the original wallpaper, the screen is blank, and i can only move my mouse up/down in a straight line [16:25] so then i have to shut it down and start back up [16:25] yeah thats not cool, but lubuntu is such a minimalistic system ... we have to accept that :D [16:26] if your pc has more power then linux mint maybe is a better choice [16:26] btw do you know how many ram/cpu your pc has? [16:27] it's a laptop, it's decent. has 6 gb ram, 500 gb hdd and a second gen core i5 [16:28] and which speed has the cpu (e.g. 1,2GHz) and how many cores? (e.g. quadcore or dualcore) [16:29] i believe 2 cores at 2.5 ghz [16:29] how do I check that on my computer? i'm so used to windows [16:30] i use hardinfo for that [16:30] ok cool [16:31] yes, those are my specs [16:31] 2 core 2.5 ghz [16:31] here's the thing, i use it for work, so i need it to be as stable and reliable as possible [16:31] on lubuntu it is preinstalled (system profiler and benchmark) [16:32] ok [16:33] do you play any big games or things like that on it? [16:33] no, just work [16:33] the laptop isn't powerful enough to play any games [16:33] at least graphic intense games i'd be interested in [16:34] i like ubuntu, but dislike unity [16:34] lubuntu is pretty good so far, but not perfect [16:34] i play on my laptop(dualcore, 1GHz) minecraft! :D [16:34] Buddyb: that *might* be able to run Mint. It can definitely run Lubuntu though (my older laptop was a weaker dualcore with 3.5GB RAM, and Lubuntu ran fine) [16:34] but i am using the 14.10 release, would the 14.04 version work a little cleaner you think? [16:34] but I do NOT advise using Mint - because it's an unsupported variant [16:35] Buddyb: 14.04 is probably more stable (but I stick to LTSes for stability, and power-user backport things which I need newer) [16:35] teward, thanks. i pretty much want a distro that i can get support easily for online, i.e. in these forums [16:35] yeah, I push for Ubuntu and its variants, not the derivatives of Mint and such [16:35] i also use 14.04.1 ... good idea teward [16:36] teward, if i swtiched from 14.10 to 14.04 lubuntu do you think i would notice a difference? in errors, issues i'm having? [16:36] no the theme is a bit different ... [16:36] Buddyb: forgive me but i don't have your errors scrollback so I don't know how to answer that [16:37] well not so much errors, it's just that i have issues from time to time [16:37] for instance [16:37] i can say the theme is a tiny bit different [16:37] Buddyb: there's always going to be nitpicky stupid edge case issues for everyone [16:37] i run into them regularly [16:37] in all variants [16:38] i have 2 monitors plugged in to laptop, set the autostart and ran the script to where the monitors are extended. randomly the monitors will start up on mirrored [16:38] you might have *less* errors, yes [16:38] but you'll still have issues. [16:38] ah, okay, I don't use Lubuntu with triple screens [16:38] sometimes when i start the computer i can't do anything, it reverts to the default wallpaper, can only move mouse up/down, and can't access anything [16:38] Buddyb: you can always try, but I ALWAYS suggest backing up data [16:39] teward, we created an autostart script in /etc/xdg/autostart [16:39] well i just installed lubuntu sunday, not much on here so no worries for trying new things [16:39] it's a dual screen setup [16:40] triple if you include the laptop :P [16:40] unless it's just the external and your laptop [16:40] * teward has a triple screen setup o.o [16:40] Buddyb, one idea is that you test linux mint mate (i dont like it because of the ugly green ^^) or you downgrade to lubuntu 14.04.1 [16:41] teward, on laptop or pc? [16:41] its laptop plus 2 external but only 2 work at a time, the 2 external [16:41] zy3pD: on my laptop. [16:41] zy3pD: VGA -> DVI, HDMI -> DVI, external butterfly monitors [16:41] ahhh i tried 3 screens with 2 gpus but it didnt worked [16:41] the third screen is my laptop's screen [16:43] If I downgrade to 14.04 do i just need to reinstall it? [16:43] yes but dont expect your files to be saved ... so do a backup! [16:44] well what do you suggest between ubuntu and lubuntu? [16:45] lubuntu or what do you mean? [16:45] if you had to suggest a distro for me to use, which one do you think is best [16:46] i'm not sure the diff between ubunut and lubuntu, not sure how much slower ubuntu would be [16:46] ubuntu and its variants. [16:46] Buddyb, you dont like unity right? [16:46] teward, when you say variants does that include mint, or lubuntu, xubunut etc [16:47] zy3pd, right, can i install cinnamon on ubuntu? [16:47] Buddyb: Ubuntu.Xubuntu,Lubuntu,Kubuntu,Ubuntu GNOME [16:47] Buddyb: i call mint and elementary and such that are based on ubuntu derivatives [16:47] because they're based off of Ubuntu but they make changes [16:47] ok [16:47] Buddyb, yes but you can also use linux mint cinnamon there is cinnamon preinstalled and configurated and works with the other system components [16:48] and how would you compare support for lubuntu vs. ubuntu? the same or will things vary [16:48] for instance if i have a probelm in lubuntu, is it harder to fix or the same as an ubuntu issue [16:48] zy3pd, i mean can you install cinnamon on ubuntu, not linux mint cinnamon [16:49] Buddyb, if it is a problem with the gui then it is harder ... if it is a problem with the system the it is the same [16:50] Buddyb, yes you can install cinnamon on ubuntu but for me this doesnt make sence because with linux mint cinnamon there exists a ubuntu based distro which already has cinnamon [16:51] i thought cinnamon already it the repos [16:51] zy3pD: he loses Ubuntu support vectors since Mint changes their repositories substantially [16:51] his goal is to use a variant that has web support like this one that is useful [16:51] (I believe) === zy3pD is now known as zy3pD_afk [16:51] yes correct [16:52] so before i had linux lite for a while, which was a derivative of ubuntu [16:52] i loved it, it looked great, no bugs that i came across, but when i had a question, issue, it was hard to get help [17:03] i loaded ubuntu 14.04 to a usb. i'm going to reboot and give it a try [17:03] thanks for the help, i'll be back a little later [17:03] Buddyb: Ubuntu or Lubuntu? [17:03] ubuntu [17:03] i am currently on lubuntu 14.10 [17:03] so trying ubuntu 14.04 [17:03] Buddyb: don't forget that Ubuntu is in #ubuntu if you come back seeking support [17:04] if you want a similar DE to lubuntu 14.10 use lubuntu 14.04 [17:04] yes, correct [17:04] as Ubuntu is *vastly* different [17:04] yes, i've played with it before, but not too much [17:04] my needs are faily basic as most of my work is done online [17:05] i'll spend some time in it and be back a little later [17:05] thanks again [18:41] hi everyone. I'm new in the linux-world. I've startet with Lubuntu and now i would like to know, is there a easy way to get the "original" lxde dark theme? [18:43] with the application lxappereance you can change the theme [18:44] thaks for your answer ,with this tool i got the windows "black" with the cleanlooks theme and onyx but didn't get the lxde theme on the bar at the bottom [18:46] rightclick on the bar→panel-settings→sec tab [18:47] alright i'll try, thanks :) [19:31] hey all [19:32] hi Buddyb [19:32] o/ [19:33] so i've been playing around in ubuntu for a little bit [19:34] 14.04? [19:34] yes [19:34] tried dualscreen setup? [19:35] i think ubuntu handels this automaticly so you dont need to change anything [19:35] ehhh you might [19:35] especially if you have a hybrid graphics card [19:35] it was fairly straight forward [19:35] (observed on my laptop) [19:35] no graphics card, intel built in graphics [19:36] its a laptop with no discrete gpu [19:36] so check it out, here is a link to my current lubuntu setup [19:36] good [19:36] what is difference between lubuntu-desktop and lubuntu minimal instalation? [19:36] don't be mad, i'm easing myself away from windows... this helps me feel a little more comfortable [19:36] http://a.pomf.se/ewiyxr.png [19:37] * teward throws dark matter at Buddyb [19:37] haha I said forgive me [19:37] I can't quit cold turkey, i need to take baby steps [19:37] nope, i think i'll just dump my dark matter and exotic particles from cross-dimensional energy generation onto your workspace :p [19:37] (sorry, i'm just kidding :P) [19:38] i know you are, trust me i dislike windows very much [19:38] but it helps me feel at home, what i'm used to [19:38] so [19:38] i like in lubuntu how i can have the panel at the bottom, and that it extends across both displays [19:39] and i like how if i have a firefox window open it will display it in the taskbar [19:39] but its in many de s like that, only in windows not ;) [19:39] yes, so i want a distro that can look like this [19:40] with a "start" button, and tabs on the bottom panel [19:40] e.g. lubuntu? ;) [19:41] he means windows :P [19:47] yea so to me lubuntu seems closer to windows than ubuntu [19:47] Buddyb, if it look like windows then try zorin os ;P [19:47] really it's between ubuntu and lubuntu, and since i have 14.10, i want to install 14.04, so i need to reinstall regardless [19:48] yes, but will zorin be as compatible, and will i be able to get support and answers online easily? [19:48] Buddyb: it *IS* linux. you can configure it any way you want. [19:49] as i said: if you have problems with the graphical user interface then you will get less support, there is no difference if you ask for system issues [19:49] ok [21:08] hi there, I would like to try to add some "eyecandy" to my lubuntu box. So I go to gnome-look, download the tar.gz file from http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473 [21:09] then I go to customize look and feel, but I don't know what to do next... [21:14] The "custom look and feel" application crashes when I go to "icons theme" and trying to install the .tar.gz file [21:15] janolap1: what version of lubuntu are you using? [21:15] does a window open up to choose the theme? [21:15] hummm... I don't know... [21:16] I think it's 14.04, or 14.10 [21:16] lsb_release -rd in terminal will tell you [21:16] ok, it' 14.04 [21:16] do you know what kind of theme you are trying to install? [21:17] this one : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473 [21:17] ianorlin: GTK - (from #linuxpadawan) [14/12/26 16:11:56] Hi there, I would like to add a GTK3 theme on my Lubuntu Box (this one : http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ultra-Flat?content=167473). But I don't know how to do this... [21:18] I am not sure if GTK3 themes will work [21:19] What kind of theme should work ? [21:20] I think it should support gtk2 and gtk3 [21:20] ianorlin : I will try first an icons theme... [21:20] step by step... [21:22] ah yeah that button is for icon themes [21:22] I think you have to do gtk themes manually [21:22] Do you think it's the same for icons ? [21:25] ok, for the icons, I unpack the tar.gz into ~/.icons and use "Customize look and feel" after. Working [21:26] let's try the theme now... [21:26] could i create a ~/.theme directory for this ? [21:29] Yes ! it's working like icons... [21:30] hi, I've created a .desktop file on my desktop, and pointed it to a bash script like this, Exec=lxterminal --working-directory=/home/ara/nfs3.sh -e ./nfs3.sh, but lxterm just opens, and nothing happens. [21:31] er, i meant --working-directory=/home/ara of course. [21:31] But I can't se the caption in the TaskBar pannel... to light... [21:41] nvm, got it to work. [22:38] i have a panel which i set to dynamic. however i thought i would change it back but am not able to click the panel (as it only has a task manager assigned to it and clicking the buttons do not bring up a panel modificaion menu