[00:01] <Azelphur> hehe
[00:09] <Azelphur> stumbled upon this with my daily deal hunting, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Vodafone-Smart-Turbo-Pay-Handset-Black/dp/B00MRS0C24
[00:09] <Azelphur> looks pretty swish actually
[00:11] <penguin42> not bad for the money, although might be worth checking Argos's sale, they normally have good deals on phones
[00:12] <Azelphur> doubt you'll find much cheaper than that, quad core with 4G for £60
[00:13] <daftykins> :)
[00:13] <daftykins> what's the unlocking potential like?
[00:14] <Azelphur> no clue, I literally just read the specs on paper
[00:14] <daftykins> we have our own telcos :<
[00:15] <daftykins> or is that :>
[00:16] <penguin42> Azelphur: Watch out for the quadness, some of them are poor spec cores
[00:16] <Azelphur> ah
[00:17] <penguin42> Azelphur: The A7 cores are low spec cores
[00:17] <penguin42> Azelphur: I mean still better than 2 A7 cores, but slower than the equivalent A15 cores
[00:17] <penguin42> Azelphur: But people go 'woohoo quad core' and don't really notice it's 1.2GHz A7
[00:18] <Azelphur> yea I guess, I figured 1.2ghz quad would be fine
[00:18] <Azelphur> the Nexus 4 was a 1.5ghz quad and it was really nice, still is
[00:19] <Azelphur> but yea, I suppose I should pay more attention to whether it's a crappy core
[00:19] <penguin42> Azelphur: Yeh but those were 1.5GHz Krait's
[00:19] <Azelphur> indeed
[00:19] <penguin42> I'm not sure of the performance diff between a krait and an A7
[00:20] <penguin42> Azelphur: The octocore machines that have 4 fast, 4 slow, I think tend to have the A7's as the slow, and A15 as the fast
[00:20] <Azelphur> I see :)
[00:21] <daftykins> shame Google ignore the flaws with the Nexus 4
[00:22] <penguin42> Azelphur: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1P4WtPGVHF-qFJbuR0LnM-kj15CzZAIAJQYUkMbvpRas/edit#gid=0
[00:22] <penguin42> (from a bit of googling)
[00:22] <Azelphur> that's a useful chart
[00:22] <penguin42> Azelphur: So I don't know if that's actually accurate, but that's saying an A7 is 1.9DMIPS/MHz, and an A15 is 3.5, Krait is 3.3
[00:23] <penguin42> Azelphur: so a quad A7 just about scrapes past a dual Krait, and is slower than a dual A15 (just)
[00:23] <Azelphur> I see
[00:24] <penguin42> Azelphur: Milage may of course vary, past performance is no guarantee of future gains....
[00:39] <daftykins> Azelphur: just a thought, if you haven't made any progress, have you thought about trying a cyanogenmod channel for anyone that might use chromecast? regardless of using said ROM of course
[00:39] <Azelphur> I asked on #android and some dude told me to use localcast which didn't work
[00:39] <daftykins> hrmmph
[01:25] <ali12341> sup
[01:26] <ali12341> moto g is the best deal at the moment
[01:26] <ali12341> 140 unlocked, android 5.0, dual sim or 4G
[01:28] <ali12341> also we just did the chromecast thing here
[01:28] <ali12341> worked fine, watched some iplayer and it was near-HD quality
[05:00] <mapito> hey
[05:00] <mapito> so whos seen the interview
[05:24] <shauno> I don't really plan to.  it doesn't really sound worth watching
[05:25] <mapito> 9/10 on imdb tho
[05:25] <shauno> heh
[05:26] <shauno> it was 9/10 before anyone had seen it.  for the same reason slovakia voted to name a bridge "chuck norris bridge".  you can't trust the internet to vote :)
[05:26] <mapito> oh
[05:26] <mapito> so who wa behind the 'hack'
[05:28] <shauno> if I was a betting man, my money would be on TeamGhostShell
[05:31] <shauno> the NK angle just seems highly illogical.  they'd shared everything they had and torched the remains long before anyone made the connection with this movie
[05:31] <shauno> that's not what you do if you're trying to use it as leverage
[05:32] <mapito> yea
[05:33] <mapito> how did they get into sony servers does anyone know what the vulnerability was
[05:33] <shauno> from what I've read, it sounds quite likely they had inside help
[05:34] <shauno> and sony's reputation for security seems so bad that someone holding the door open would go a whole long way
[05:35] <mapito> what about the nk hack..didnt they steal fury?
[05:36] <shauno> this is a pretty hilarious read from 2007; http://www.cio.com/article/2439324/risk-management/your-guide-to-good-enough-compliance.html
[05:41] <shauno> it does start to paint a picture that perhaps drawing blood from their network isn't quite the feat it sounds
[05:59] <mapito> heh
[05:59] <mapito> howcome oure still up?
[05:59] <mapito> oure
[05:59] <mapito> youre argh
[06:06] <shauno> heh, I'm at work
[06:09] <mapito> ah
[06:09] <mapito> till what time
[06:09] <mapito> you work from home yea?
[06:09] <shauno> nope, in the office, till 6
[06:10] <shauno> (pm)
[09:40] <MooDoo> morning all
[10:24] <zmoylan-pi> you might have to wait for the turkey coma to wear off for more responses... :-)
[10:33] <DJones> Morning all
[10:42] <MartijnVdS> hellos!
[10:49] <Myrtti> $timeofday
[10:52] <popey> Ya!
[10:57] <bashrc> morning
[10:59] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[11:15] <czajkowski> aloha
[11:22] <SuperEngineer> HoHoHo [whoops. 1 day out out]
[11:25] <popey> Yo yo yo!
[11:26] <SuperEngineer> ;)
[11:30] <bashrc> post-ho
[11:33]  * Azelphur waves
[11:33] <Azelphur> boxing day sales aren't doing much, anyone see any cheap ~1TB drives?
[11:35] <SuperEngineer> Azelphur, yes - but it's busy doing backups... thanks for the concern though ;)
[11:35] <Azelphur> haha
[11:35] <zmoylan-pi> might get bargins in russia for hard currency? :-/
[11:50]  * SuperEngineer loves the way the VLC icon has a Santa hat on it during Christmas
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> or plume replaces notification noise with sleigh bells
[15:36] <SuperMatt> I've made the switch to the gnome edition :)
[16:18] <popey> Congratulations.
[16:29] <SuperMatt> I'm going to make the switch at work too, I just think it's that little bit nicer than using regular ubuntu with gnome installed
[16:32] <shauno> hm, here's a fun one.  I need to find a dns server that doesn't reply to tcp requests.  I suspect I may as well skip this step and go straight to headbutting walls
[16:33] <penguin42> why?!
[16:33] <penguin42> but anyway, a firewall entry should solve that
[16:35] <shauno> trying to 'prove' a really weird scenario - one that does appear to be affecting customers, but everyone claims shouldn't
[16:35] <penguin42> ok, so just add a firewall rule to block tcp connections on port 53 with whatever form of 'block' you want
[16:36] <shauno> we have a loadbalancer that only replies to udp.  platform maintain this isn't an issue because it serves no 'large' requests, so tcp should never be required
[16:37] <shauno> now I appear to be running into customers who are only allowing 53/tcp outbound (not sure whether it's intentional .. they're in India)
[16:38] <penguin42> yeh they're just wrong
[16:39] <shauno> they're all wrong.  I want to bang their heads together.  but each claim it isn't a problem because it works for everyone else
[16:39] <penguin42> what's the largest valid udp sizes you're seeign?
[16:40] <shauno> honestly, no idea, I'm quite removed from the actual operations
[16:40] <shauno> but the loadbalancers serve no complex requests.  just 2 A records
[16:40] <penguin42> shauno: Curiously wikipedia has a piece of text that says 'Some resolver implementations use TCP for all queries.' but doesn't say which
[16:43] <shauno> hm, that's an interesting one.  if I can prove that, it might be just the blunt instrument required to correct our side
[16:44] <penguin42> shauno: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Domain_Name_System#Protocol_transport
[17:12]  * penguin42 saw a segway tour underway near me earlier; it seemed very leisurely and boring
[17:43] <mapito> what to do
[17:43] <mapito> hm
[17:43] <mapito> ive used a segway
[17:43] <zmoylan-pi> the cops use them here, looks a little silly
[17:43] <mapito> hard at irst tbh..and i cant imagine using one all round a town
[17:44] <mapito> like in the Prague and that they do tours around the city on a segway
[17:44] <mapito> in busy areas..i wouldnt fancy using one:D
[17:44] <penguin42> this was in a park
[17:44] <shauno> aye I've seen the cops in dublin using them.  they look hilarious.
[17:44] <mapito> does seem odd
[17:45] <mapito> theyre quite expensive too iirc?
[17:45] <zmoylan-pi> they do put the cops a few inches above the crowd so might be good in that respect
[17:45] <mapito> whats wrong with a good ole push bike:
[17:45] <shauno> I think they should just walk.  they ought to be approachable - not ducking out their way because they managed to balance some fat guy on 1 wheel
[17:46] <zmoylan-pi> cheap segways only have 1 wheel? :-)
[17:46] <shauno> I figure if it's dublin, there'll be a brick under the other wheel
[17:47] <zmoylan-pi> look for gardai going in circles...
[23:30] <mapp> hm
[23:30] <penguin42> hmm?
[23:30]  * zmoylan-pi puts rubber mat under the humming equipment to eliminate the noise
[23:32] <penguin42> zmoylan-pi: Depends how desperate you get: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q-0aWnlSYz0/VGN6RVUMkrI/AAAAAAAAEyM/-l7EJz5Re04/w1079-h809-no/SAM_2842.JPG