[05:52] hi magespawn gremble theblazehen_ and other lurkers [05:57] good morning Kilos [07:16] hey folks [07:23] hi Squirm [07:24] Merry Christmas to all for yesterday [07:28] ty lad and the same for you, hope you had a good time [07:28] at least no work [07:40] Yeah, flying back to Cape Town on Sunday, work on Monday, then kind of... off, but "on-call" for the rest of the week [07:40] I should be at work, but I'm taking leave to spend time with the gf [07:41] But because I should be at work, I can't really go anywhere [07:42] aha [07:43] good to spend time with gf, it is boxing day after all [07:45] Good morning Kilos [07:50] o/ Squirm gremble [07:51] Hey magespawn [07:52] Did you get your kids' tablets working? [07:57] Kilos: next week [07:57] hey gremble, magespawn [07:58] ah [08:02] gremble yup they happily playing away [08:13] Coolio [08:13] Hey Squirm [08:20] I think I can get used to haskell :o [09:44] gremble: how solid do you sleep [09:45] did you hear the big storm at 1.30 this morning [09:49] I was on the other side of the mountain [09:49] I was awake when I saw it [09:49] thogh [09:49] though* [10:04] sjoe, the big bangs woke me [10:54] wb magespawn what happened [10:57] oi [11:03] voda hopper [11:07] indeed [11:08] lol [14:00] hi Cantide [14:00] house our korean [14:00] hows [14:01] hello :p [14:01] ich weiss nicht [14:01] my first class is on Jan 5 :p [14:01] 괜찮아요 [14:01] :p [14:01] you learning german too [14:04] my dad's first language is German [14:04] i'm terrible at it though :/ [14:05] hehe [14:09] so what are you actually, a teacher or lecturer or what? [14:13] teacher :p [14:13] more like a private tutor [14:13] that teaches students 1:1 [14:15] ah [14:15] and you still working with IT stuff? [14:16] and ubuntu [14:17] ah [14:17] not so much [14:17] but i do some English editing for a software development company [14:18] just using Ubuntu to program some arduinos these days [14:18] and for personal use [14:18] i'm gonna sleep! good night! [14:31] good afternoon [14:31] Maaz: coffee on [14:31] * Maaz puts the kettle on [14:32] hello charl [14:32] Maaz coffee please [14:32] magespawn: Alrighty [14:34] hi charl wb magespawn [14:34] Maaz: coffee please [14:34] Kilos: Yessir [14:35] ty busy working through the mysql tutorial [14:35] Coffee's ready for charl, magespawn and Kilos! [14:35] sjoe [14:35] Maaz: ty [14:35] You are welcome Kilos [14:35] Maaz botsnack [14:35] Thank you thank you, munch munch chomp chomp [14:36] :) [14:36] Maaz: danke [14:36] Bitteschön [14:36] hi Kilos [14:36] hi magespawn [14:37] magespawn: learning mysql ? [14:45] yup that is the idea [14:46] i bought a book called 'A Guide to SQL', but all the database info that is available for download for the exercises is for Access [14:48] so i thought it would be a good exercise to create them all myself anyways [14:48] sjoe i have a fat book magespawn called mastering sql [14:49] 845 pages [14:52] written by Martin Gruber [14:56] i got books ill never understand, can share them [14:58] back again [14:58] magespawn: run mtr -i2 -s0 -n 8.8.8.8 [14:58] why? [14:58] see if it helps you stay online [14:59] nah i just had to change my connection, tablets are running out of a data [14:59] aha [15:01] yup the pdf manual from the mysql website is 3868 pages, single side so halve that for a book [15:02] 1934 [15:02] still a nice long read [15:10] if you interested i can post you this one in the new year [15:10] or someone can fetch [15:12] hmm... chanserv also decided to have a short break [15:13] maybe it ran out of data too [15:16] lol [15:16] this book is old. my niece used it at tech [15:17] has stuff changed [15:18] i do not think that much but i do not know [15:18] this is my first look at it [15:24] at todays prices for books it must cost spanne [15:46] computer books are always expensive [15:46] well if you get into it , this one is yours [16:03] i have never purchased a computer book in my entire life [16:03] i learn everything online by reading official manuals, googling, asking around and figuring stuff out for myself [16:04] i find that mostly computer books give you a very limited view of the software [16:04] the view of the author [16:04] most examples in computer books can also be done much better and you can learn much more from the official manual [16:04] when you raed many java books for example they learn you blatant bad practices and give you terrible and often ridiculous examples [16:05] i have a few, i still like to read from paper [16:05] what about e-paper magespawn ? [16:05] i had a kindle for a while but i hated it [16:05] the e-paper was great to read from though [16:05] but the rest of the device just sucked [16:06] when i get a kindle or gobii that would be awesome [16:06] gobii? never heard of that before [16:06] you should ask richard stallman what he thinks of a kindle [16:07] i am trying to sort out a hoteldruid install on my local machine, but i keep getting The requested URL /hoteldruid/ was not found on this server. [16:07] he said the name is a good name because you are setting fire to your books [16:07] charl: gobii is from kalahari.com [16:08] oh it's a smartphone? [16:08] they do smart phones and e-readers as well [16:09] ah [16:10] looks a bit like the wolfgang devices [16:10] cheap branded chinese-made devices [16:10] the aldi sells those here [16:11] they quality seems okay, i have played with a few [16:11] the big problem with the kindle is that they can remotely wipe data off your device [16:11] superfly said apparently they stopped doing that because of the backlash [16:13] it still doesn't change the fact that they have a permanent backdoor into your device [16:13] via the global umts network [16:14] afaik it is possible to just permanently run it in airplane mode though [16:14] so that the umts interface is disabled [16:18] hi samkelo welcome to ubuntu-za [16:18] hmm... [16:19] 8ta kilos [16:19] hwzt? [16:19] good ty and you? [16:19] i can reach the apache default config page just not the hoteldruid [16:20] good... [16:21] is there anyone here who uses Cinelerra? [16:21] very few peeps here at this time, what is that thing? [16:24] it's a non-linear video editing software for linux.... it's rted as one of the best , if not the best [16:24] aha [16:27] only the source code is released... The compiking and packaging (where applicable) is mainly done by the person who wants to install it,,, [16:28] oh my [16:28] so you want to install it [16:28] from source [16:28] it's more suitable to 64-bit ... I have a 32-bit machine and needed assistance in installing it as I am running into errors here and there [16:29] charl: give a hand [16:29] yep... I have been trying to install i from its source [16:29] but to no avail [16:30] its not available on any of the ubuntu/debian repositories [16:31] There is a Cinelarra PPA-- Personal Package Archive-- for Ubuntu users [16:31] i looked here http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/693365-top-3-linux-video-editors [16:32] thanks.. I will try it out [16:32] Maaz: google Cinelarra PPA-- for ubuntu [16:32] Kilos: "cinelerra : “Cinelerra-CV” team - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/ppa :: "Cinelerra" http://cinelerra.org/ :: "11.10 - How do I install cinelerra? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/68142/how-do-i-install-cinelerra :: "installation - Step to step how to install Cinelerra - Ask Ubuntu" [16:32] http://askubuntu.com/questions/67164/step-to-step-how-to-install-cinelerra :: "Install Cinelerra Video Editor in Ubu… [16:33] look at the first link samkelo [16:33] maybe this one is better [16:33] non-linear video editing software for linux [16:34] but the ppa should work [16:35] wb magespawn [16:35] thanks guys... i will give it a try [16:35] oh this the paw one [16:36] yw samkelo [16:36] you also welcome to visit here all the time === magespaw1 is now known as magespawn [16:51] back [16:51] reading the log... [16:52] sorry i have no experience with cinerella myself, never even heard of it [16:52] i can only tell you what google can tell you :) [16:55] hehe i think the ppa will help him charl [16:59] aha got it working, the file permissions were incorrect [17:00] eish magespawn them permissions cant drive one nuts [17:02] we gotta get rain tonight and tomorrow. temps are 19/23°c [17:05] indeed, espcially since it installs from the ubuntu software center, one would assume that it would work [17:08] yeah i hope so for his sake, installing from source drove me nuts [17:11] mosoons in malasia now [17:11] monsoons [17:12] ai! now i dunno if its now or old news [17:13] looks like old news [17:13] grrr [17:30] merry xmas [17:30] ha afrodeity you still alive? [17:30] same to you ty [17:31] very much so [17:31] hi kilos [17:31] tardis issues [17:43] good morning [17:43] hi ho inetpro [17:43] morning ?! :D [17:43] hi inetpro [17:43] hahaha [17:44] he is a crazy mixed up kid [17:44] uh, guess I lost the sense of time, sorry charl [17:45] relax man it's the holidays :) [17:45] i only got up at around noon myself today so i'm no one to speak [17:46] it is 2014? [17:50] o/ [19:17] hmm... [20:09] have a good evening all [20:09] night all. sleep tight [20:14] https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/users-lightbulb.html