[05:58] hi bushtech welcome back [05:58] compliments of the season to you [05:58] hi Squirm theblazehen_ and others [05:59] Thanks Kilos, all the best to you too [05:59] where have you bee? [05:59] been [06:00] family matters, been in Natal for 5 weeks [06:00] ah [06:01] hope all is good [06:02] yep, sorted [07:36] morning gremble [07:37] Good morning Kilos [07:49] ai! geeks are funny peeps [07:49] BitCo | Ultra-Highspeed Business Fibre Internet. 2Mbps – 1Gbps Fully Uncapped. Get your free quote today! [07:49] Top News [07:49] Most pirated TV shows of 2014 [07:49] Torrentfreak has released its annual "most pirated TV shows" list, which is topped by well-known titles [07:49] Biggest international tech stories of 2014 [07:49] The e-commerce space has a new heavyweight challenger, while the world's biggest Internet company is starting to feel the heat in Europe – these are just a couple of the big stories to emerge in 2014. [07:49] I don't care that The Pirate Bay is down: co-founder [07:49] The Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde said that The Pirate Bay had lost its soul, and that he does not care that the website was taken down [07:52] what soul can a site have? [07:55] The same way that any enterprise can have a mission statement, an interpreted understanding what it is doing and why it is doing it [07:56] ok so what was lost [07:56] was it abused or no donations made [07:57] PirateBay was apparently created for the dissemination of information, books, movies, etc [07:57] But it turned more into an advertising platform with very dubious ads. Sunde did not like that [07:58] aha ty for the explanation [07:58] It made the criminality of the enterprise more glamarous than the point of sharing like a massive library [07:58] ah that makes sense then [08:00] glamorous [08:01] our spelling bot is away [08:01] spell checker [08:01] at one time he had time to help everyone with spelling, then life took over [08:03] gremble: explain what is ibids prob with python3 [08:03] is there no software that can fix that? [08:04] that backwards thing [08:09] People like to see the "human-ness" in things that we make. They way some people refer to a car as a "she" or we say that the laptop has "died" etc [08:09] #philosophyfortheday [08:10] backwards compatability [08:10] what is that? [08:11] i clicked it and it opened another channel hehe [08:29] There was python 3 changed the way some of the parts of the python language works [08:29] No there was, sorry [08:29] Those changes are incompatible with the way that python 2.7 works [08:30] Meaning 2.7 code can't run in 3 and 3 code can't run in 2.7 [08:30] eish [09:50] hi magespawn [09:50] good afternoon [09:51] lol [09:51] allmost [09:51] almost too [09:53] close enough for me [09:57] hehe [10:02] oh my [10:42] magespawn: why does your isp keep changing? router? [11:27] no it should not [11:27] maybe because i just connected without doing anything [11:30] hmm... [11:33] i am connected through my phone, so it might be the signal, [11:34] aha [11:34] you use tor hey? [11:34] http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sjg365 [11:34] they were also attacked [11:34] sometimes [11:36] these crackers should be given hard labour [11:36] or maybe just shot and buried [11:36] there has also been some talk about being able to identify tor users if you control the node they exit through [11:36] i think the education is key [11:38] im really stupid i think, i have seen anything on the net id like to attack for the fun of it [11:38] havent [11:38] i dont understand that mentality [11:40] i can understand (but dont condone) bank robbers and other thieves [11:40] but what do crackers get out of it [12:41] the fun of being able to say that they have done something [12:53] or in is some cases they do it for money or to achieve some political goal [13:01] that maybe i can understand [13:01] the greed factor [13:06] good afternoon [13:06] Maaz: coffee on [13:06] * Maaz puts the kettle on [13:06] hi charl [13:06] hi Kilos [13:06] how are you this afternoon [13:06] Maaz: coffee please [13:06] Kilos: Alrighty [13:06] ok ty and you? [13:06] good good [13:10] Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos! [13:10] Maaz: danke [13:10] Bitteschön [13:10] Maaz: botsnack [13:10] YAY someone cares about me too! [13:15] o/ [13:15] hehe hiya gremble [13:15] thats a wave hey? [13:16] Indeed [13:37] It is raining so nicely here now [13:43] eff Android.. http://releases.sailfishos.org/sfa-ea/2014-07-18_SailfishOSHardwareAdaptationDevelopmentKit.pdf Challenge accepted! [13:49] :P [13:51] gremble: you ever try sailfish OS? [13:53] Nope [13:53] Only heard about it [13:53] yeah. I really like the look of it. [13:53] I don't like the amount of "TODO" in the porting guide, however :( [13:54] The problem is getting a phone that will play along [13:55] Seems like it uses cyanogenmod drivers [13:55] So as long as your phone runs CM10 it *should* work [13:55] hi bushtech [13:56] hi all [13:56] hi magespawn [13:58] they say sailfish is built om meego [13:58] i wonder if i can just load it straight on to the n900? [13:59] magespawn: They have builds for the Nexus 4 [13:59] you hear about the neo900 project? [14:00] Newer hardware, same OS [14:00] meaemo or meego or whichever one it is [14:02] i like the idea of being able to run what ever i want, i did have android running on my n900 for a bit [14:02] magespawn: hah. You still have it? [14:03] sitting right in front of me, not my daily phone, but it is still useful [14:03] ah, kk. Running maemo on it now, or what? [14:03] I wish they still made good phones with proper keyboards :/ [14:04] yup i reverted it back, the android was a dual boot from the memory card [14:05] ah [14:07] it had issues with the hardware, somethings worked but not well and others did not work at all [14:07] yeah [14:09] Oh man.. I have more free RAM than free disk space... [14:09] 22 GB free vs 6.4 GB free... [14:09] oops [14:10] Time for a ramdisk! [14:10] that is just wrong, i do not have that much ram if i add all of my computers together [14:10] magespawn: I have 32 GB of DDR3 and 2(used to be 3) GB of DDR2 and 256 MB PC-133 [14:11] I used to run lots of virtual machines.. [14:11] One of my PC's has 3 NIC's plus the onboard.. [14:12] i remember seeing a pci card that could take ram to work as a hard drive [14:12] yeah. [14:13] I see some PCIe SSDs now... [14:13] up to 16 TB ?! [14:13] now that would be somewhat fast [14:14] magespawn900: Phone? [14:14] magespawn900: somewhat?! [14:14] lemme get the specs.. [14:14] yup from the phone [14:14] I saw that when I looked at the wikipedia page for IOPS.. [14:15] i am betting the cost would be up there with the space station [14:15] heh, yeah... [14:15] one day.. [14:16] http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive2 not the 16 TB, but check that out.. [14:18] and they specifically list linux as supported [14:18] magespawn900: heh, of course.. [14:18] Probably used for high performance databases.. [14:19] effing tab complete... [14:19] Goes to your 900 nick :/ [14:19] lol [14:19] Heh, I love chiptunes.. Always references to other artists and stuff.. [14:21] lotsa collaboration too, between the bigger artists [14:24] gotta go be sociable for a bit family have just arrived === magespawn is now known as magespawn_away [14:25] alright, cya [14:39] "pacman -Q | grep android | cut -f 1 -d " " | xargs sudo pacman --noconfirm -Rcs" Oh CLI, how I love you.. [14:41] hi bushtech [14:44] Alright, I'm gonna add my RAM and then make a RAMdisk. I better not get eskomed.. [14:44] hi theblazehen_ [14:49] oi! [14:50] Wb Kilos [14:50] ty theblazehen_ after days of being connected my modem decided genoeg is genoeg [14:51] Kilos: ouch. What you use now? [14:51] unplug replug and works again [14:51] Ah [14:51] i dont understand what causes it though [14:53] Ya [14:53] Sounds like fun problem to fix [14:53] i think its a bad oke trying to get in here [14:59] When plugging in a HDMI cable dislodges your ram.. [15:09] theblazehen_, you're not supposed to use a crowbar to get the hdmi cable in :) [15:10] bushtech: lol [15:12] hmm... [15:12] Maaz: hi [15:12] Howzit Kilos [15:13] needed a reboot to get it going again this time [15:17] theblazehen_: you here? [15:17] no nicks are showing as online [15:18] Kilos: ya [15:19] wow [15:34] must be #ubuntu-za, other channels show fine [15:56] wbb [16:03] hi magespawn you hopping again [16:04] not this time, just changed to the phone. had to pack up the laptop, dining room table is needed. [16:06] lol [16:08] priorities of non pc people [16:10] So my HDMI -> VGA adapter died.. [16:11] ouch that sucks [16:12] hi bduk [16:12] Hi everyone [16:12] Hi everyone [16:13] hi bduk [16:13] lol hakkel jy [16:13] theblazehen_: vga screen? [16:13] Ag hou op Kilos dit was kersfees man [16:13] lol [16:14] alle voorspoed daar [16:14] Kan nie meer tik nie vakansie was telank [16:15] "Warning: [16:15] Modifying or replacing your device’s software may void your device’s warranty, lead [16:15] to data loss, hair loss, financial loss, privacy loss, security breaches, or other damage, and therefore [16:15] must be done entirely at your own risk. No one affiliated with this project is responsible for your [16:15] actions but yourself. Good luck." wow, thanks... [16:16] magespawn: yeah, 2 [16:16] magespawn: one using the normal VGA connector, and one WAS using the adapter [16:16] Wonder if I should just buy a cheap GPU? [16:17] i see. time for a new screen? does it make a difference if it is hdmi all the way through? [16:17] " At least 4 GiB of RAM (the more the better" I knew 24 GB in one PC was a good idea.. [16:18] magespawn: got 2nd one for xmas.. HDMI all the way through? [16:18] with out the vga adaptor? [16:19] as in do you see a difference because of the adapter? [16:19] ah, dunno, only the TV has a HDMI connection.. [16:19] But I tested the adapter in other PC's, doesn't work [16:32] hi bushtech [16:39] I think the HDMI connectors have more available bandwidth for the high definition screens [16:39] * gremble wanders off again [16:40] haha [16:43] gremble: yeah.. Better quality too [16:43] Displayport still better [16:45] Oreilly is offering free books [16:45] but none of them are nice D: [16:45] what do you class as a nice book? [16:53] Something that I would want [16:53] I ended up getting something like programming computer vision with python [16:53] sigh [16:53] ah thats closer [16:57] gremble: how about http://i.imgur.com/INBvStO.png ? [17:05] gremble link? [17:19] theblazehen_: I would actually try that xD [17:19] gremble: me too :( [17:19] magespawn: http://post.oreilly.com/rd/9z1zsko8rq94drpmmfel8vj0u6drolp2ihbcme9uljg [17:20] ty [17:20] gremble: you see the "with his therapist" part? :) [17:20] I did, yes [17:20] :P [17:20] "You might as well kill yourself right now" [17:22] My brother wrote off his car on monday [17:22] The tow-in people stole my sister's tablet from under the seat [17:23] gremble: ouch :( [17:25] I would like to say something to the lines of, "People have no ethics these days" but that would imply that I could name a date where people did not lie and steal from one another [17:25] How do I see the size of a folder in the commandline? :x [17:26] gremble: du -sh $folder [17:26] also: have a look at ncdu [17:27] If I wanted a ncurses interface I would have fired up ranger [17:27] (which I did) xD [17:28] ah :p ty for the tip\ [17:28] I need a file manager [17:28] coreutils only do so much.. [17:28] That's what she said [17:28] lol [17:28] (not the part about the file manager) [17:29] confession: I've been using filezilla as my graphical file manager [17:29] LOL [17:29] I have thunar if I really need a graphical file manager [17:29] heh [17:29] But ranger is nice. I even have image preview [17:30] in CLI? Does it draw to framebuffer or what? [17:30] Draws with w3m [17:30] ah [17:30] that uses framebuffer IIRC [17:32] It is very nifty [17:34] Yeah [17:44] I ran out of sugar [17:44] I don't have any more money [17:44] haha [17:44] I will now slowly die [17:48] :( [17:48] boomarang again [17:49] Boomerangs can fly in space... well in the ISS that is [17:49] Anyone here read the xkcd what-if book? [17:50] I recommended it to someone, I think I read all the what-if's on the net [17:50] I found it brilliant [17:50] If I had R400 I would have bought it along with my linguistics book [17:52] gotta go battery is dying later all [17:52] oi [17:52] hi nlsthzn [17:52] Cheers magespawn [17:52] hiya uncle Kilos [17:54] gremble: boomerang reminded me of that bomb on a boomerang question :p [17:54] I got mine for like R270 i think [17:55] Exclusive Books [17:56] get sugar first man [17:57] That is how much it is, yes. I bought another book that I really want for R240 I think [17:58] Ah, which was it? [17:59] "the language instinct" by Steven Pinkter [18:00] I want to get the other one as well, "The Stuff of Thought" [18:00] Ah [18:02] Hmm.. I got an MP3 player for christmas, but I don't think it is going to mount correctly for me to transfer music over to it from my laptop [18:02] :/ [18:03] It doesn't seem to have a mountable partition [18:03] Oh, it does [18:15] theblazehen_: You don't have a cli program that can report music metadata or organise music according to the metadata? [18:21] have a good evening [18:30] night all. sleep tight [18:43] gremble: Have you tried using the file command? [18:44] Also a keyword to search for is id3 if you haven't came across that yet [18:46] i've been looking around [18:47] I decided to install banshee (i think) and just do what I need to do with that [19:02] My mouse is dying in there are no batteries in this house [19:02] XD [21:34] Hi bushtech [21:35] Oh, got my hour wrong.. [21:57] how?