[00:00] <vegg> Hello there. Quick question. Was just doing a check with a live CD to see if my wifi will be working (as i am running a external wifi adapter), unfortunetly it does not appear to be working. How would i go about bringing over working drivers with a live cd? is that possible? cheers.
[00:00] <Bashing-om> locutus1: Maybe the package manager can fix the error ? try -> dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc , make sure that you install grub to 'sda' .
[00:00] <locutus1> Bashing-om, ok.
[00:00] <EriC^_> vegg: which wifi are you using?
[00:00] <EriC^_> vegg: type lspci | grep Network
[00:00] <locutus1> Bashing-om, got errors
[00:01] <vegg> using a Jensen Scandinavia adapter, can't recall which version on the top of the dome unfortunetly. Would have to reboot into live to do that i guess, EriC^_
[00:01] <locutus1> Bashing-om, dpkg-query: error: reading package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/status': Input/Output Error
[00:01] <acer> eric, reboot, but still not working, takes ages as well until GRUB menu appear at bot
[00:02] <locutus1> Bashing-om, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is not installed
[00:02] <EriC^_> acer: ok type gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[00:02] <Bashing-om> locutus1: I am at wits end. If ya want we keep at this, but will at this point be much quicker to (RE-)install ubuntu .
[00:02] <EriC^_> acer: add "insmod part_msdos" before the insmod ntfs
[00:03] <roothorick> when playing videos in Flash or Pipelight, Xorg CPU blows up to 100% and the video plays poorly. The only thing I changed was upgrading from a GTX470 to a 750Ti. Why? How do I fix it?
[00:03] <EriC^_> acer: and make it set root='(hd0,msdos5)'
[00:03] <locutus1> Bashing-om, is there a way I can back up everything but the core system files (including installed programs), reinstall then push all that stuff to the new install?
[00:03] <EriC^_> acer: maybe remove the --fs-uuid and uuid part
[00:04] <acer> how should it look like?
[00:04] <EriC^_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22629/add-windows-7-to-boot-menu
[00:04] <acer> should i also ad " "
[00:05] <vegg> EriC^_: it actually does appear that the adapter company has provided with a driver for linxu on their website. However, i am still uncertain how i would continue from there. Is it possible to install a driver on a LiveCD, or would i have to gamble and hope that the driver works "out of the box" when installed?
[00:05] <acer> ok..done
[00:05] <EriC^_> vegg: if you download the .tar.gz or .deb you can install it after you install ubuntu
[00:06] <EriC^_> vegg: follow the instructions they provide
[00:06] <Bashing-om> locutus1: I would not trust anything now from that install as far as the system is concernd, On a good install there is "dpkg --get-selections and write out with sudo dpkg --set-selections " But we have no package manager, and the system is broke.
[00:06] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627001/
[00:06] <EriC^_> acer: that error is fine
[00:07] <locutus1> Bashing-om, hmm.  so I have to backup my configs and scripts.  that will take a while haha
[00:07] <locutus1> will have to find them
[00:07] <locutus1> Bashing-om, question for you
[00:07] <jhutchins> vegg: If you can get ubuntu installed, it's very likely the internal chipset is something that can be easily supported by a native Linux driver.  The problem with the manufacturer provided drivers is they tend to go obsolete rather quickly (they don't survive kernel updates).
[00:07] <locutus1> Bashing-om, suppose we replaced the file that apt-get is claiming has an invalid elf header with one from a known good system?
[00:07] <jhutchins> vegg: The current crop of adapters is fairly well supported.
[00:08] <jhutchins> vegg: While you might not find "Jensen Scandinavia" drivers, you might well find out that it's a well-supported broadcom chipset and just needs firmware or something.
[00:08] <acer> so this is how the 40_custom looks like....http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627013/
[00:09] <Bashing-om> locutus1: I think that is the better course. I am more than willing to keep plugging away at this, but the likely hood of making this system unable to boot is high .( I have written scripts to back up my files, now would be a good time to make up one for what you want saved ) .
[00:09] <locutus1> lol
[00:09] <EriC^_> acer: ok change set root='(hd0,5)'    search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 349477B6947778E6 toset root='(hd0,msdos5)'
[00:09] <Mikke> cataclysm, all yours
[00:09] <jhutchins> locutus1: Sounds like the file might be the wrong architecture, but yes, that would work.
[00:09] <vegg> jhutchins: I hear what you say, but if it doesn't work on a liveCD, will it not also not work once installed? Anywho, i am currently just googling to see if it's any way to test a driver i got from the website on a LiveCD, rather than formatting and screwing up
[00:09] <EriC^_> acer: without the --no-floppy.......
[00:10] <jhutchins> vegg: Well, you can install files on a live system, they just won't be there when you reboot.
[00:10] <vegg> jhutchins: Lovely! All the information i needed. I'll be back if it doesn't work. Cheers !
[00:12] <locutus1> jhutchins, hmm would you think that I should throw my hands up and just copy stuff and reinstall, or try to fix this?
[00:12] <jhutchins> vegg: while you're at it, do an lspci -nn and find out what chipset it is.  Save the eight character pciid and we can check it agianst databases.
[00:13] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627038/
[00:13] <jhutchins> locutus1: I think it should be fixable.  What command is yeilding the bad ELF header message, and what is the actual message?
[00:13] <locutus1> jhutchins, anything with apt-get yields that error
[00:13] <EriC^_> acer: no, i meant to change the whole line to set root ..hd0,msdos5
[00:14] <brrrrr> acer: if that doesnt work, have a try http://superuser.com/questions/620336/how-to-make-grub2-chain-boot-win8-after-upgrading-fedora18-to-fedora19
[00:14] <Bashing-om> jhutchins: locutus1 // worst problem is e2fsck can not fix the file system .
[00:14] <acer> so how should the entire custom 40 look like?
[00:14] <locutus1> jhutchins, the error is "apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1: Invalid ELF Header"
[00:14] <locutus1> yeah
[00:15] <jhutchins> locutus1: I would think replacing that file would be a good step.
[00:15] <locutus1> jhutchins, where can I get that file? lol I don't happen to have another 14.04 installation.  I have a 12.04 installation available
[00:15] <Mikke> i brb dinner is served it seems
[00:15] <EriC^_> acer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627065/
[00:16] <acer> should i restart straigh awau or do the grub update first ?
[00:16] <EriC^_> update grub first
[00:17] <acer> ok, if this dont work, if i delete the partition which i installed xubuntu, will windows then boot?
[00:17] <jhutchins> locutus1: Well, figure out which package it's from, download that package from packages.debian.org.  It's a compressed archive, I don't recall the actual format, but extract it.
[00:17] <EriC^_> acer: no you'll need to install the windows mbr
[00:18] <EriC^_> did update-grub mention windows?
[00:18] <acer> no
[00:18] <acer> wr do i download windows 8 mbr
[00:18] <locutus1> sounds like it would be easier to reinstall lol
[00:18] <EriC^_> ok did grub show up earlier?
[00:19] <EriC^_> when you rebooted
[00:19] <acer> no
[00:19] <EriC^_> cause the menu entry is there
[00:19] <EriC^_> ok hold shift while you boot to get grub
[00:19] <EriC^_> if the entry is there press on it
[00:19] <jhutchins> locutus1: Here's some detail on extracting: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/138188/easily-unpack-deb-edit-postinst-and-repack-deb
[00:19] <acer> ok...in a bit
[00:19] <EriC^_> if it works come back you can get grub to show every time by itself
[00:19] <roothorick> is there a way to get nV 346.xx drivers without resorting to xorg-edgers?
[00:19] <roothorick> or manual install
[00:21] <Mikke> whyameye: you're using the 'timeout' program? that setups a timer that kills your process with SIGALRM
[00:22] <acer> didnt work, grub also not showing
[00:22] <Mikke> justin_smith: There are drawbacks. (Related: Anyone know where I can get a very, very tiny pair of gloves and hat?)
[00:22] <EriC^_> acer: ok
[00:22] <brrrrr> acer: http://superuser.com/questions/620336/how-to-make-grub2-chain-boot-win8-after-upgrading-fedora18-to-fedora19
[00:22] <EriC^_> Mikke: ?
[00:23] <acer> so format and reinstall is only solution
[00:25] <EriC^_> acer: wait what
[00:25] <EriC^_> acer: type gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[00:25] <brrrrr> acer: yeah, lets do it
[00:25] <EriC^_> brrrrr: stop that
[00:25] <Mikke> so thats one quirkiness. and the code I paste on lpaste is another
[00:26] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627126/
[00:28] <EriC^_> acer: add a comment before GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[00:28] <EriC^_> so it's #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[00:28] <EriC^_> then save, and sudo update-grub
[00:29] <Mikke> SammoSideKick, 4000 doge → 0.00228 btc.
[00:30] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627159/
[00:30] <Mikke> !quote 0
[00:31] <EriC^_> acer: pastebin /etc/default/grub
[00:32] <acer> command not found
[00:32] <bekks> EriC^_: pastebinit ...
[00:32] <EriC^_> i mean paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[00:33] <EriC^_> or pastebinit /etc/default/grub if you have it installed
[00:34] <schnitz> hey, am having real troubles getting AMD ATI grafics to run properly under the latest ubuntustudio, anyone experience that?
[00:34] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627173/
[00:38] <redDEAD> I'm looking for a guide/help on how to patch the synaptic driver in Ubuntu 14.10.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> schnitz: Show the channel what card(s) are in question here -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga | pastebinit <- and what is happening ?
[00:41] <ikonia> redDEAD: this is not a 2 minute job
[00:41] <ikonia> redDEAD: it's quite detailed and requires a reasonable understanding of what's going on
[00:41] <ikonia> and how to maintain it post patching
[00:42] <brrrrr> porkys is spamming, could someone ban it?
[00:42] <ikonia> brrrrr: he's not in this channel
[00:42] <EriC^_> acer: 1 sec
[00:43] <EriC^_> acer: did you add the line with # ?
[00:43] <EriC^_> acer: or did you modify it? and it added the one below it?
[00:43] <acer> ~
[00:43] <acer> #
[00:44] <EriC^_> acer: yeah?
[00:44] <EriC^_> acer: did you only add the "#" ?
[00:44] <acer> no the line below already existed then i copy and pasted yours with #
[00:44] <EriC^_> oh, i meant to add "#" to that line
[00:44] <acer> ok
[00:44] <EriC^_> the one that was there already
[00:44] <acer> ill edit now
[00:45] <acer> one sec
[00:45] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627218/
[00:45] <EriC^_> acer: ok, sudo update-grub
[00:46] <favourites> what
[00:46] <favourites> is this
[00:46] <acer> done...no windows showing
[00:46] <EriC^_> acer: no problem
[00:46] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | favourites
[00:46] <EriC^_> restart and see if it works
[00:46] <acer> ok, bck in a bit
[00:46] <favourites> i'm on ubuntu :p
[00:47] <favourites> but what is irc? o:
[00:47] <brrrrr> favourites: best member of the day
[00:47] <SchrodingersScat> favourites: it is internet relay chat, and this is the Ubuntu support channel on freenode.  Do you have a support question?  Otherwise please see !ot
[00:48] <favourites> i do have a question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/565748/using-firefox-developer-edition-as-default-browser-problem
[00:48] <schnitz> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627223/
[00:50] <Bashing-om> schnitz: Switchable ATI cards ? Sorry , out of my league .
[00:51] <schnitz> yeah, that fusion stuff...
[00:51] <schnitz> bashing-om: one GPU is on the CPU, and a second one is on a PCIe Card... kinda nutty, true
[00:52] <schnitz> and they're supposed to do some load balancing between them
[00:53] <Bashing-om> schnitz: There are means I am aware of to deal with AMD/Intel , Nvidia/Intel , Nvidia/AMD ....but AMD/AMD I have seen no documentation for .
[00:54] <BluesKaj_> schnitz, normally one sets the default gpu in the eufi/bios
[00:55] <schnitz> interesting... each one of the gpu should have enough power for at least some decent screen res, but I'm stuck with 1024 at 60 Hz, the whole systems seems to be going into failsafe mode
[00:56] <acer> hey Eric
[00:56] <acer> no luck
[00:56] <schnitz> Also, the latest proprietary amd driver package doesn't seem to help as welll
[00:56] <schnitz> yes, I should get new hardware, I guess
[00:56] <EriC^_> acer: did you get the grub screen?
[00:56] <acer> i mange to get windows 8 after pressing shith key at boot and being presented to grub menu,nut from there it gets stuck with an R in the corner left of monitor
[00:57] <EriC^_> acer: when you press on windows that happens?
[00:57] <acer> yes
[00:58] <acer> let me rephrese, i get grub menu after pessing shift, then in grub menu i do have option for win 8 , but when i pressed it owst boot
[00:59] <acer> doesnt boot, gets stuck
[00:59] <EriC^_> ok can you install pastebinit it will make things easier
[01:00] <EriC^_> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[01:00] <acer> i still have access to root file of windws 8...boot file, cant i copy this file to grub menu or something
[01:00] <favourites> can someone help me understand this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/548003/how-do-i-install-the-firefox-developer-edition/548005#548005
[01:00] <locutus1> Bashing-om, thanks for your help.  I am just copying stuff now. after that I will just try a reinstall
[01:00] <locutus1> may be back later
[01:00] <acer> paste bin installed
[01:01] <EriC^_> acer: you need the mbr
[01:01] <EriC^_> ok grep -A10 Windows /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit
[01:02] <EriC^_> and sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[01:02] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627259/
[01:03] <Bashing-om> Locke2002: I think in the long run, that (re-)install is the better thing to do .
[01:03] <EriC^_> acer: and sudo parted -l | pastebinit ?
[01:04] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627274/
[01:07] <EriC^_> acer: ok typ gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[01:07] <EriC^_> and try to replace chainloader +1
[01:07] <EriC^_> with "ntldr /bootmgr"
[01:08] <acer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627299/
[01:08] <EriC^_> without the quotes
[01:09] <acer> done
[01:09] <acer> sudo update-grub ?
[01:09] <EriC^_> ok, sudo update-grub
[01:09] <EriC^_> yup
[01:09] <acer> olol
[01:09] <acer> done
[01:09] <EriC^_> ok, restart and see if it works
[01:09] <acer> restart ?
[01:09] <acer> ok
[01:09] <EriC^_> yeah
[01:09] <acer> ololo
[01:09] <acer> in a bu
[01:10] <acer> in a bit
[01:10] <EriC^_> ok :D
[01:15] <acer> ok, so now i gt windows screen saying, there is a problem and been presented with 3 options
[01:15] <acer> fix windows from cd
[01:15] <acer> and i can remember the other ones but they similiar
[01:16] <EriC^_> acer: do you have a windows cd?
[01:16] <aaaaple> Acer computers are worse than whale SHlT
[01:16] <acer> olol got it from a forum...but yes
[01:17] <EriC^_> aaaapĺe , no swearing :P
[01:17] <acer> they ok...cheap and chearfulll...its just me that dont know how to talk to them
[01:17] <acer> Eric on the other hand seem to know hes way round
[01:18] <EriC^_> are you calling me a whale shlT whisperer?
[01:18] <acer> naa m8, just saying to master yoda with this computer language
[01:18] <EriC^_> acer: seriously though, they might know in ##windows how you can get it fixed
[01:18] <acer> wish i can b on the same level
[01:18] <EriC^_> i'm j/k
[01:19] <acer> so...go with the disk option and x fingers from here on i guess???
[01:20] <acer> what happens after fix, is grub still be in control or will windows take over
[01:20] <EriC^_> what do you mean?
[01:20] <EriC^_> acer: if windows writes the mbr grub will disappear, but you can reinstall it easily
[01:20] <acer> i guess, the fix on wondows is to place back mbr as you mention earlier?
[01:21] <EriC^_> acer: i have no idea
[01:21] <acer> i follow nixie pixel tutorials on how to partition disk and install ubuntu
[01:21] <acer> dont know if there are better tutorials out you can forward me to follow?
[01:21] <EriC^_> the fix doesn't involve the mbr i guess
[01:21] <EriC^_> but windows could write the mbr as part of the fix i dont know
[01:22] <acer> ok, will have a go now, if it doesnt take long ill come back to post results
[01:22] <acer> thanks for your timeEric
[01:22] <acer> much appreciate
[01:22] <EriC^_> acer: no problem
[01:22] <aaaaple> Acer. Better yet put grub on your root partition. Then use a program called EASYBCD in Windows
[01:23] <uchuonna> acer; any way to run a second hdd? (one for windows, one for ubuntu)
[01:24] <aaaaple> uchuonna: it shouldn't be a problem at all
[01:25] <aaaaple> When you boot uchuonna . Most computers have a key press usually f12 to select boot device
[01:28] <vegg> Hello again! Managed to fix the wifi adapter without too much hastle. However, i am now left with another choice which i am completely oblivious to. On the nvidia drivers, there are 5 diff options. Ranging from legacy to binary. However, there's another option. "Using X.Org X server...." . Does anyone care to explain in a few simple words what the difference between, lets say, the X.org, and the binary ones are?
[01:30] <Ben64> vegg: you're going to need to give more information
[01:30] <uchuonna> aaaaple; I meant any way for acer to do that (having the extra drive, etc) A beter solution than messing around with conflicting mbrs
[01:31] <brrrrr> vegg: wifi adapter and nvidia driver?
[01:31] <aaaaple> uchuonna: is it a removable drive
[01:32] <uchuonna> aaaaple; I don't know, that would be a question for acer
[01:32] <vegg> brrrrr:  the wifi thing was completely unrelated to this question actually. just wanted to state that i actually got the previous problem fixed. Granted, as i didn't tag the person who helped me before, i compeltely understand why that might have sounded random.
[01:32] <devnn> Am I vulnerable to attacks when ssh'ing to a compromized server by itself?
[01:33] <Ben64> devnn: i don't see how, unless you transfer files from that server or something
[01:33] <bekks> devnn: "Maybe".
[01:33] <EriC^_> bekks: depends on devnn 's services?
[01:33] <k1l> devnn: if you already know its compromized just reinstall the server
[01:34] <devnn> bekks: any specifics, or just common uncertainty?
[01:35] <bekks> devnn: We dont have any specifics from you besides the assumption that the target system is compromised. If you already know that, reinstall it.
[01:35] <devnn> k1l: It is not compromized, just planning for the worst.
[01:35] <delt> Hello
[01:35] <delt> anyone using xfce here?
[01:35] <aaaaple> delt: Yes. Love it
[01:36] <delt> aaaaple: you seem like someone who'd appreciate a mac/osx like theme :D
[01:36] <EriC^_> bekks: i meant "is that what you mean?"
[01:36] <k1l> delt: what is your ubuntu issue?
[01:36] <delt> k1l: someone is having trouble with a theme i designed.
[01:37] <delt> k1l: (ubuntu studio) he only sees the default ubuntu studio theme if mine is selected.
[01:37] <devnn> bekks: k. Just wanted to know if there was anything obvious I didn't think about. I'm setting up a remote virtual server and planning how to access it and limit damages in case of a compromize.
[01:37] <delt> aaaaple: screenshot ---> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/greybird-mac.png
[01:37] <delt> aaaaple: do you think you could test this theme and send me a screenshot?
[01:37] <EriC^_> devnn: i think if you have the xserver forwarding thing enabled on your system it's a bad thing
[01:37] <aaaaple> delt: it's where KDE should be before all those reviewing fairys caused the developers to bog it down. Like unity the dog.
[01:37] <bekks> devnn: Regular backups and immediate reinstallation if it gets compromised.
[01:38] <Ben64> delt: this really isn't on topic here
[01:38] <EriC^_> devnn: that thing where you accept to run programs on the server using your xserver
[01:38] <delt> Ben64: ok, sorry
[01:39] <devnn> EriC^_: kk. noted. Not using any x-forwarding.
[01:39] <aaaaple> delt: screenshot not working
[01:39] <devnn> bekks: yep. but I might not notice it right away, so I don't want an undiscovered compromize to spread.
[01:40] <bekks> devnn: Then you should monitor your system more often :)
[01:40] <delt> aaaaple: i just sent you a private /msg ... can you see it?
[01:40] <uchuonna> devnn; a compromised server could spread to clients who haven't fixed their openssl
[01:41] <devnn> uchuonna: only if they host a https or something, right?
[01:41] <devnn> uchuonna: and unpatched for heatbleed
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[01:42] <bekks> uchuonna: And even more clients, depending on method of attcking the client.
[01:42] <bekks> devnn: Dont concentrate on one single possible method of attacking your clients.
[01:42] <devnn> bekks: setting up a new system, just assuming worst case for now. :)
[01:42] <Vegg> EriC^_: I thaugt i had fixed the wifi adapter issue.. However, every time i restart my computer, i have to go through the whole "Make" "make install" "modprobe" stuff all over again. Any idea why this is the case?
[01:42] <uchuonna> linux cpanel for apache is also compromised these days
[01:43] <uchuonna> last I heard, no one knows how that compromise worked
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> try clamav and rkhunter
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> that latest turla linux rootkit is also in clamav's database
[01:45] <devnn> going to host a website on the open net. Assuming it will eventually get compromized at some point. Just don't want my own server compromized also by accessing it that way through ssh.
[01:46] <delt> devnn: cut open the network cables, and check if you see any green goblins running around inside them :D
[01:47] <ikonia> devnn: if it gets compromised, the server is compromised, dosn't matter if you access it via ssh
[01:47] <uchuonna> all these serious breaches one after another, very worrisome
[01:48] <devnn> ikonia: I meant accessing it through another server. Setup is workstation ssh-> server ssh-> webserver
[01:49] <devnn> delt: no need. I put a filter inside the cable so no material larger than 0.05mm can pass.
[01:49] <wafflej0ck__> uchuonna, from what I've heard much of it is social engineering and human error (beyond heartbleed, poodle, and shellshock), sometimes SQL injection but in many cases problems are due to bad administration or compromised backups or the like
[01:50] <uchuonna> devnn; will your proposed server be alone at it's location, or will it be on a server farm?
[01:52] <jasonjckn> should I install 14.04 or 14.10
[01:52] <devnn> uchuonna: local at my place. no physical access to others. only communication out is ssh. This is the machne I don't want compromized by a remote server because of outgoing ssh.
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: depends on your needs mate
[01:52] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: 14.04 is long time support
[01:52] <jasonjckn> i don't mind upgrading frequently
[01:53] <jasonjckn> can you upgrade to an LTS from non LTS?
[01:53] <jasonjckn> like 14.10 to the next LTS
[01:53] <xangua> No jasonjckn
[01:53] <EriC^_> jasonjckn: yes you can
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> whats that trigger again
[01:54] <EriC^_> jasonjckn: 14.10 to 15.04 ...til 16.04 LTS
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> nonlts
[01:54] <wafflej0ck__> !lts
[01:55] <kasad> so, doing favour to a friend, who needs old machine "renewed" and adapted so his mother can follor something online
[01:55] <kasad>  they have 200 gig ntfs data partition
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: there are some good ubuntu security packages to get a more tighten secure system right
[01:55] <kasad> I have 55 gig free
[01:55] <uchuonna> devnn; if it's local to you, and you have physical access, it might be safer to install a second ethernet interface for administration, and shut down outside ssh access entirely
[01:55] <kasad> what partition scheme do you recommend for xubuntu for those 55 gig
[01:55] <kasad> double the ram for /swap and rest /  is that ok?
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> !swap | kasad
[01:56] <wafflej0ck__> lotuspsychje, yeah there is a program for scanning that gives you a security audit, one minute let me find it
[01:56] <kasad> lotuspsychje: what about / should I use ext4
[01:56] <EriC^_> kasad: if they dont want hibernation and the memory is pretty decent they dont need swap most likely
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: rkhunter,clamav,fail2ban,..
[01:56] <wafflej0ck__> ah yeah lynis
[01:56] <kasad> lotuspsychje:  and should I put /home on separate partition
[01:56] <devnn> uchuonna: 2nd server is amazon ec2, so limiting it for my IP, but junk will come in through port 80.
[01:56] <EriC^_> kasad: how much ram do they have?
[01:56] <lotuspsychje> !info lynis
[01:56] <wafflej0ck__> lotuspsychje, I use fail2ban and clamav too haven't seen rkhunter
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: tnx for that one
[01:57] <wafflej0ck__> np
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | wafflej0ck__
[01:57] <wafflej0ck__> yeah got that one not the rkhunter
[01:57] <wafflej0ck__> imagine it's rootkit hunter
[01:57] <kasad> EriC^_: 2GB RAM
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: works like denyhosts
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | wafflej0ck__
[01:58] <EriC^_> kasad: 2-3GB swap should be ok
[01:58] <wafflej0ck__> lotuspsychje, nice thx
[01:58] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: too bad i didnt see that turla rootkit in rkhunters database
[01:58] <dingbat> I edited some grub config files on Ubuntu Server, then rolled back the changes and now update-grub2 is stuck. What did I do?
[01:59] <EriC^_> dingbat: is that a riddle?
[01:59] <wafflej0ck__> you have to answer in the form of a question
[01:59] <kasad> EriC^_: thanks! I should use ext4 for / right?
[01:59] <EriC^_> kasad: yes
[01:59] <kasad> (dunno if I should separate /home)
[01:59] <uchuonna> devnn; all you can do is try it, and hope you don't get surprised by another major software compromise in a few months
[01:59] <EriC^_> kasad: it's up to you
[02:00] <kasad> i'd keep that all together, don't want to confuse them extra
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> wafflej0ck__: sudo rkhunter --list after install to check database
[02:00] <dingbat> EriC^_: I mean, did I break something? All I wanted to do was change the CLI screen resolution..
[02:00] <EriC^_> dingbat: what did you edit?
[02:00] <devnn> uchuonna: jep. thanks for input.
[02:00] <lotuspsychje> kasad: i would format the whole hd to ubuntu :p
[02:01] <kasad> lotuspsychje: I have to leave their data ntfs partition :S
[02:01] <kasad> I virtualized their winxp
[02:01] <dingbat> EriC^_: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/00_header
[02:01] <lotuspsychje> kasad: you can replace alot of toolz to ubuntu packages
[02:02] <EriC^_> dingbat: what did you add/edit?
[02:02] <kasad> and will provide access to c:\ via virtual box, (and share what was d:\ - the other 200ishGB partition)
[02:02] <kasad> with both host system and guest vm
[02:03] <dingbat> EriC^_: one line in each file regarding "GRUB_GFXMODE". The changes caused update-grub2 to hang, so I undid the changes and tried again. It's still stuck at "Generating grub configuration file..."
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> kasad: anyway good luck with your new xubuntu dualboot
[02:03] <kasad> so his mom will still have access to winxp.. he will have faster machine
[02:03] <kasad> lotuspsychje: it's not dualboot, I killed windows xp
[02:03] <lotuspsychje> kk
[02:03] <kasad> I just virtualized it
[02:03] <kasad> gonna stuff it in vbox
[02:04] <lotuspsychje> kasad: but why the partition divide then?
[02:04] <uchuonna> devnn; to be safer you could put a hardware firewall between your server and the net, ip ban all known troublemakers so they don't have a chance to infect your machine
[02:05] <kasad> lotuspsychje: because I virtualized only c:\ (he has tons of little stuff installed, and docs everywhere) plus that other ntfs partition (used to be d:\ with media mostly)
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> kk
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> k1l: morning
[02:05] <kasad> and to be honest with you lotuspsychje: I hope he will see the light and slowly stop using winxp
[02:05] <kasad> in soon to be 2015
[02:05] <lotuspsychje> kasad: xp is a security flaw, would be nicer to switch them to full hd xubuntu 200g
[02:06] <kasad> lotuspsychje: will think about converting that partition when everything starts working
[02:06] <kasad> and he and his mom get used to it
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> kasad: many packages can replace xp to get used quickly
[02:07] <kasad> I know, his mother doesn't know english, and he isn't power user either
[02:07] <lotuspsychje> kasad: i suppose mom isnt the hardcore xp gamer?
[02:07] <kasad> not my mom, friend's
[02:07] <devnn> uchuonna: yes. should do this. just wondered if an established ssh link was a liability in itself, because the compromized system will see the connections from my server, when they happen. When it's time for automatic backup, for example.
[02:08] <kasad> she is complete newb, basically she will use comp for following something that is currently happening in media with her son
[02:08] <Ella23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://tinyurl.com/ozfvxy3
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> kasad: ok good luck with xubuntu
[02:08] <kasad> thanks
[02:08] <kasad> <3
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Ella23
[02:09] <uchuonna> devnn; that's why I'd suggested a second ethernet link, so outside parties will never see that you're doing backups
[02:09] <jasonjckn> i'm installing 14.10
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> ty
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> !yay | jasonjckn
[02:10] <jasonjckn> i built a new computer pretty decked out, 3x SSD in RAID 0
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: ssd brand?
[02:10] <jasonjckn> samsung 850
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> niceee
[02:10] <devnn> uchuonna: I will do that, but if the web-server itself is compromized, it can monitor for incomming connections to abuse.
[02:10] <Ethan3> I kind of regret upgrading to 14.10.
[02:10] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: you know the ubuntu ssd tweaks?
[02:10] <jasonjckn> lotuspsychje: nop?
[02:11] <jasonjckn> Ethan3: how come?
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: tweak swappiness, install preload,etc
[02:11] <Ethan3> Well it's not like it has many new features over 14.04 and 14.04 is more stable.
[02:11] <Ethan3> Having old versions of LibreOffice, etc. isn't a big deal to me either.
[02:12] <jasonjckn> Ethan3: what kind of instability did you experience?
[02:13] <Ethan3> I'm not really sure but pre-updating my machine was fine and post-updating every time I login I get three or four error messages. It's not really a big deal but it's kind of annoying.
[02:13] <Ethan3> I just click "Cancel" and everything seems to work fine.
[02:13] <uchuonna> devnn; maybe run the webserver in a VM? that way you don't have to give it access to admin functions
[02:13] <jasonjckn> ok,  cool, well at least if I get that i'll notice right away
[02:13] <jasonjckn> and I can just reinstall
[02:14] <Ethan3> jasonjckn: Are you new to Ubuntu or do you know your way around?
[02:15] <EriC^_> Ethan3: you can remove those errors
[02:15] <EriC^_> Ethan3: i used to get them too on 14.04
[02:15] <devnn> uchuonna: it is already a VM. Running on ec2. But will still need to connect to it to maintain it. I guess the web part could be sandboxed somehow, but I'm not that experienced. Relying on ssh protecting me on the client side, in case of trouble.
[02:15] <EriC^_> Ethan3: open the dash > xdiagnose
[02:16] <EriC^_> remove the check on enable crash logs
[02:16] <EriC^_> *crash reports
[02:16] <uchuonna> devnn; learning curves are fun
[02:16] <Ethan3> I'll give that a try. But it must mean that something is wrong.
[02:16] <Ethan3> I just don't know what.
[02:17] <EriC^_> Ethan3: not really, those are supposed to be turned off for after it's released
[02:17] <Ethan3> Oh, ha.
[02:17] <EriC^_> it's supposed to stay on when it's still under development
[02:17] <dingbat> EriC^_: any thoughts on grub? I guess I'll just reinstall
[02:17] <delt> ok thanks for the help guys
[02:18] <EriC^_> dingbat: i tried installing the grub package but it doesn't install the 00_header file
[02:18] <EriC^_> dingbat: i could upload mine if you want
[02:18] <EriC^_> dingbat: i guess something is wrong with that file or /etc/default/grub
[02:18] <SuprBay> hey everyone
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> SuprBay: welcome
[02:19] <devnn> uchuonna: jep. and a good way to never get anything done, as there is always room for improvement. Taking the jump and will cry with the rest of the internet when the next heartbleed is discovered. Just making sure the vandalism won't reach my home.
[02:19] <uchuonna> :)
[02:19] <dingbat> EriC^_: I'm pretty sure mine is how it was, so I guess I'll just reinstall. Seems I need to try some different methods of changing CLI screen res
[02:19] <EriC^_> dingbat: this is my 00_header http://paste.ubuntu.com/9627595/
[02:20] <EriC^_> dingbat: it's fixable
[02:20] <EriC^_> dingbat: are you using uefi? win8?
[02:20] <EriC^_> dingbat: maybe purge grub then reinstall it
[02:21] <EriC^_> dingbat: type dpkg -l | grep grub
[02:21] <EriC^_> and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[02:21] <dingbat> EriC^_: well, the trouble is the machine has no network access right now
[02:22] <EriC^_> ok
[02:22] <uchuonna> devnn; this might be a small heresy here, but have you considered Openbsd? It's founded on excessive paranoia :)
[02:22] <EriC^_> dingbat: check /etc/default/grub for any errors
[02:22] <EriC^_> dingbat: and try to move 00_header to see if it helps
[02:22] <EriC^_> sudo mv /etc/grub.d/00_header /
[02:25] <devnn> uchuonna: I have not used BSD. Amazon ec2 provides an ubuntu 14.04 LTS with a click. Going with that for now and installing the minimum and setting up FW rules.
[02:25] <dingbat> EriC^_: Ok, moved it and now update-grub2 runs. So I'm back to square one.
[02:25] <EriC^_> dingbat: ok what are you trying to achieve?
[02:26] <EriC^_> dingbat: you want to boot into text mode with a certain resolution?
[02:26] <dingbat> The CLI is larger than the screen; I can't see part of the CLI. I thought changing the resolution to match my monitor would fix that. Rebooting..
[02:28] <EriC^_> wait
[02:28] <EriC^_> dingbat: still there?
[02:29] <dingbat> EriC^_: yeah, IRC on another machine
[02:29] <noah> How can I get to the network manager without mouse?
[02:29] <EriC^_> you'll get a lot of error msgs without the 00_header
[02:29] <EriC^_> it will still boot though
[02:29] <bazhang> !find network-manager-cli
[02:29] <EriC^_> try to find out what's wrong with the file if you can
[02:29] <chu> bazhang: nmcli I think
[02:29] <dingbat> EriC^_: so far, it's waiting for network config
[02:30] <bazhang> chu nice (and hi)
[02:30] <chu> hey mate, happy holidays, hope all is well.
[02:32] <EriC^_> dingbat: check the vicinity of my 00_header where you added the lines on yours
[02:33] <EriC^_> dingbat: sudo mv /00_header /etc/grub.d/00_header
[02:34] <dingbat> EriC^_: Will do, gimme a minute
[02:37] <nonode> helo
[02:37] <dingbat> EriC^_: Got it! First line (shebang) was corrupted. Rebooting, hopefully this works
[02:37] <dingbat> hi nonode
[02:39] <nonode> why latest ubuntu seem so slow if i add many icon in sidebar?
[02:40] <dingbat> Hmm that's a nice block of joins... mods?
[02:40] <SuprBay> lolz..
[02:40] <Ben64> !ops | you might want to look at this
[02:40] <jasonjckn> so I have firmware raid and uefi bios, it's not recognizing the ubuntu installation
[02:40] <SuprBay> throttled
[02:40] <jasonjckn> nothing shows up in boot options
[02:41] <lotuspsychje> jasonjckn: did you disable secureboot and fastboot?
[02:41] <jasonjckn> no
[02:41] <jasonjckn> i will try that
[02:42] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | jasonjckn
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !info g15macro
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !info g15macro trusty
[02:47] <EriC^_> dingbat: ok what's the res you want?
[02:48] <dingbat> EriC^_: well, my monitor should have a native res of 1280x1024, so I'm going to try setting that in 00_header
[02:49] <EriC^_> dingbat: dont modify 00_header
[02:50] <EriC^_> dingbat: add vga=795 to the kernel line in /etc/default/grub
[02:50] <EriC^_> quiet splash vga=795
[02:50] <EriC^_> then sudo update-grub
[02:51] <dingbat> EriC^_: No? Oops. I've already done it
[02:51] <EriC^_> lol
[02:51] <dingbat> EriC^_: hang on, will change. Also, where do I find the magic number for vga=xxx?
[02:52] <EriC^_> http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html
[02:53] <dingbat> EriC^_: great
[02:54] <dingbat> EriC^_: should I keep the changes to GRUB_GFXMODE= ?
[02:55] <EriC^_> nah
[02:56] <dingbat> EriC^_: and stupid question: where's the kernel line in /etc/default/grub?
[02:56] <EriC^_> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet"
[02:58] <dingbat> EriC^_: great thank you. Curiously, that field was empty
[02:59] <desmond> Hey guys, I'm exploring KVM VT-d, and this guide talks about modifying the kernel config: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_to_assign_devices_with_VT-d_in_KVM
[02:59] <desmond> How can I see what configuration options I have in my current kernel?
[03:00] <desmond> I can see the config in this file: /boot/config-3.16.0-28-generic but how can I check for those specific options on the kvm guide, which is in english and not variable names?
[03:06] <daftykins> desmond: you're on the wrong distro ;)
[03:08] <desmond> what do you mean? :P
[03:08] <celexi> desmond try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation http://www.howtogeek.com/117635/how-to-install-kvm-and-create-virtual-machines-on-ubuntu/
[03:09] <celexi> and cat "/boot/config-`uname -r`" | less
[03:12] <desmond> Well, the link that I posted has the options like this:
[03:12] <desmond> set "Bus options (PCI etc.)" -> "Support for DMA Remapping Devices" to "*"
[03:13] <desmond> while the lines in /boot/config-* look like variable names
[03:13] <desmond> does anyone understand my problem? ive been trying to google and ask people but I'm not quite sure how to describe it haha
[03:13] <cryptodan> desmond: what is it?
[03:13] <celexi> oh i see
[03:14] <nonode> nope,,,
[03:14] <desmond> "make menuconfig" has the options in english, /boot/config-* has the options in variable names
[03:14] <desmond> are they 1-1 with each other, or am i horribly mistaken?
[03:14] <celexi> from what i can tell cryptodan, desmond wants to know what those options he linked translate to on /boot/config
[03:15] <cryptodan> they should be self-explanatory
[03:15] <cryptodan> each menu item in the config is correlated to the menu item seen in make menuconfig
[03:16] <celexi> by the way desmond, if you never configured your kernel before
[03:16] <desmond> how do I know what "Bus options (PCI etc.)" correlate to?
[03:16] <celexi> try it out on a vm
[03:16] <celexi> before you wreck your main os
[03:16] <celexi> :>
[03:16] <desmond> are there any risks on doing it on my own os? can't I just keep my old kernel and boot into that if things go wrong?
[03:17] <cryptodan> desmond: can you dpaste.com your config file?
[03:18] <desmond> http://dpaste.com/2VKM36Z
[03:18] <desmond> (thanks irssi for preventing me from pasting 87 lines into the channel by accident)
[03:19] <dingbat> EriC^_: thanks for your help. I still can't see then entire terminal, but the changes to grub are working at least
[03:20] <cryptodan> desmond: this is what would be selected in the make menuconfig CONFIG_NEED_DMA_MAP_STATE=y if you were to select it as installed in the kernel
[03:21] <daftykins> sounds a bit too much like gentoo talk to me
[03:21] <daftykins> :P
[03:23] <maxwell_> hello
[03:24] <hiker09> hi
[03:24] <maxwell_> what is the name of the package that provides all the dev packages
[03:24] <maxwell_> not just build-essentials
[03:25] <hiker09> dont know
[03:25] <maxwell_> anyone else?
[03:26] <nonode> synaptics
[03:26] <wafflej0ck__> maxwell_, what is "all the dev packages" ?
[03:26] <maxwell_> its a meta package
[03:26] <maxwell_> it installs a hundred *-dev packages
[03:27] <wafflej0ck__> maxwell_, hmm haven't seen that I've always just installed them as I need them
[03:27] <nonode> oh  i know u guy
[03:29] <daftykins> !find dev
[03:30] <daftykins> hmm 5,404 you say...
[03:30] <maxwell_> lol
[03:33] <cryptodan> desmond: I found the area you want to be.  http://i.imgur.com/lSoYlzQ.png you see the title?
[03:34] <daftykins> wow that's one ugly OS
[03:34] <cryptodan> I prefer xfce in the dark
[03:35] <cryptodan> and am using Linux Mint 17
[03:35] <nonode> !cluster
[03:39] <jordanl> how can i get cryptsetup on my initramfs?
[03:40] <jordanl> my root partition is LUKS-encrypted and bootup fails
[03:40] <jordanl> i don't see cryptsetup from inside busybox
[03:40] <daftykins> so then your install wasn't for that setup?
[03:40] <EriC^_> jordanl: why does bootup fail
[03:40] <nonode> !busybox
[03:41] <EriC^_> !nonode
[03:41] <jordanl> it can't find the disk with the UUID label
[03:41] <maxwell_> aha!
[03:41] <maxwell_> the name is devscripts
[03:41] <maxwell_> !find devscripts
[03:42] <EriC^_> !info devscripts
[03:43] <EriC^_> jordanl: why can't it find the uuid label
[03:43] <EriC^_> jordanl: boot a live usb and poke around
[03:46] <Killian9000> Hi there
[03:46] <Killian9000> Hell0?
[03:47] <Killian9000> anyone?
[03:47] <Darknet> hi Killian9000
[03:47] <Killian9000> Hi darknet!
[03:47] <Darknet> you need to wait a little more then a minute on irc. not everyone is looking at their screens
[03:48] <Killian9000> can i ask you something
[03:48] <Darknet> same goes with every other social media
[03:48] <Darknet> you could.
[03:48] <Darknet> but technically you just did
[03:48] <daftykins> plus ask an actual support question
[03:48] <Killian9000> yes
[03:48] <jordanl> well i can see that the root disk UUID matches the LUKS volume
[03:49] <jordanl> when i do blkid on a livecd
[03:49] <Killian9000> Hello Jordanl
[03:49] <jordanl> hi Killian9000
[03:49] <Jarjar1122> Hi guys i just joined
[03:49] <Killian9000> so where u from?
[03:49] <Killian9000> awww its a feg my little brother jarjar1122 :/
[03:50] <daftykins> Killian9000: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic , this isn't a chat channel
[03:50] <Killian9000> GEEET OUT
[03:50] <Jarjar1122> why :(
[03:50] <Killian9000> idgaf
[03:50] <Killian9000> i don give a fork
[03:50]  * EriC^_ rolls eyes
[03:51] <Killian9000> ok ill be seroius
[03:51] <Killian9000> eric u rtard
[03:51] <daftykins> please ask an ubuntu support question, or leave.
[03:51] <Killian9000> ok
[03:51] <Jarjar1122> where did dafty go
[03:51] <jordanl> EriC^_: i assume the bootloader doesn't see the root UUID cause it's the LUKS uuid
[03:51] <Jarjar1122> nm
[03:51] <Killian9000> how does inecraft servers work
[03:51] <Jarjar1122> what is thisplace a chat
[03:51] <Killian9000> minecraft
[03:51] <daftykins> that is a game and not ubuntu support.
[03:52] <Killian9000> theres nothing to ask for this then...
[03:52] <Jarjar1122> so this isnt the actuall chat
[03:52] <daftykins> #ubuntu-offtopic <---
[03:52] <jordanl> maybe the initramfs isn't loading LUKS properly
[03:52] <Jarjar1122> oh
[03:52] <Jarjar1122> then why are you here
[03:53] <Success> Hey, so I'm on the equivalent of ubuntu server... I use networkManager to connect using addwifi POWERS, but i tried to change my mac addr using ifconfig hw ether etc.. and it changed my hardware to ethernet, how do i get it back to wifi connectivity?
[03:53] <Jarjar1122> ill be n that server
[03:53] <Success> jordan1: what's all the rave about LUKS, all i know is it adds 2 days to install time o.o
[03:53] <daftykins> "the equivalent" ?
[03:53] <Jarjar1122> see you guys onthe other server
[03:53] <EriC^_> jordanl: hmm
[03:54] <Success> daftykins: tbh its a awkward gentoo install bc i got lazy and would feel terrible admitting to messing it up so i asked you guys XD oh well? sry
[03:54] <Success> jarjar1122: other server?
[03:54] <lickalott> hello all.  Is anyone in here familiar with oidentd on ubuntu?
[03:55] <daftykins> Success: you will be SHOCKED to discover that a channel called #ubuntu is support for UBUNTU. leave thanks.
[03:55] <Success> lickalott: what is your problem with it?
[03:55] <Success> daftykins: lol I could also offer support to others, i'm a long time user on a multiboot, after all this is a LINUX channel...
[03:55] <EriC^_> jordanl: what's in /etc/crypttab
[03:55] <jordanl> hmm nothing
[03:56] <lickalott> i edited the .conf to show %nick%, %user% and %ident% (3 different restarts) and all my users still show my log in name on the server vs their IRC nick.
[03:56] <jordanl> there's no such file
[03:56] <lickalott> i'm running a znc btw
[03:56] <daftykins> Success: no, it's an ubuntu channel only and you're not helping anything. you're also not even vaguely the first, so just do us all a favour and go find a gentoo channel.
[03:56] <lickalott> sorry  Success  that was for you.
[03:56] <EriC^_> jordanl: /mnt/etc/crypttab ?
[03:56] <jordanl> nothing there. i'm chrooted into the system through a livecd
[03:57] <EriC^_> did you mount the filesystem
[03:57] <jordanl> yes
[03:57] <EriC^_> there should be a /etc/crypttab i think
[03:58] <jordanl> i think you're right
[03:58] <jordanl> but there's no file there
[03:58] <lickalott> also Success if you make edits to the .conf do you have to restart the service AND the znc?
[03:58] <EriC^_> jordanl: you have to set it up then update the initramfs
[03:59] <EriC^_> odd that it disappeared
[03:59] <Success> lickalott: sorry did you say thats your motd?
[04:00] <lickalott> oidentd Success
[04:00] <Success> lickalott: i got that much. are you sure you don't want %defnick% ?
[04:01] <lickalott> trying now
[04:01] <lickalott> tks!
[04:01] <jordanl> EriC^_: i'm trying to build that file manually now. when done i'll run "update-initramfs -u" then reboot.
[04:02] <EriC^_> jordanl: ok, append -k all if you have more than one kernel i guess
[04:02] <Killian9000> dv.
[04:02] <Killian9000> g
[04:02] <Killian9000> f
[04:02] <Killian9000> f
[04:02] <Killian9000> f
[04:02] <Killian9000> f
[04:02] <Killian9000> f
[04:02] <unopaste> Killian9000 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:02] <daftykins> Killian9000: wrong channel again, wander off now thanks
[04:03] <EriC^_> jordanl: or test first on one
[04:07] <Jarjar1122> hello
[04:07] <nonode> howwdy jarjar
[04:10] <jordanl> EriC^_: bingo! thanks :)
[04:10] <jordanl> i don't know why the file was missing
[04:10] <jordanl> but that solved it
[04:10] <EriC^_> jordanl: no problem :)
[04:10] <jordanl> admittedly i had a really complex setup of disks w/ degraded RAID1s and LUKS
[04:11] <jordanl> i had to prepare the partitions manually before installation
[04:11] <jordanl> cause i'll be adding other disks to the raid1 mirrors soon
[04:12] <Elvis23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[04:13] <nonode> grozz
[04:15] <EriC^_> jordanl: i see
[04:28] <dingbat> Welp, I can't explain it. It seems like my displays native resolution is 1024x768, but the spec sheet says 1280x1024... my head hurts
[04:29] <daftykins> make + model?
[04:29] <daftykins> Xorg log?
[04:29] <daftykins> velocity of a laden African swallow?
[04:30] <dingbat> daftykins: I've tried with a Dell E196FP and a Samsung 930B. Identical results; when set to 1280x1024, the CLI doesn't fit
[04:31] <daftykins> CLI? as in a TTY?
[04:31] <daftykins> why are you expecting to get a native resolution out of a console?
[04:31] <dingbat> daftykins: yeah, running Ubuntu server. I would expect the console to be able to run at the display's native resolution. Am I insane?
[04:32] <bearface> yes
[04:32] <daftykins> yep it doesn't work that way.
[04:33] <dingbat> Ok great that clears things up a lot. Now is there an explanation as to why? I've got the pixels, why can't the damn thing use them?
[04:33] <EriC^_> c-moi: hey man, i noticed the screen reader only reads the first highlighted word, use espeak "$(xsel)" so it takes the whole line, in case you haven't fixed that yet, cheers
[04:34] <daftykins> not one i can provide, no. i've always had native resolution TTYs on systems i've used with open source drivers, but it's not something i deem relevant for a server
[04:34] <daftykins> i typically SSH in... so to have a physical console fit a given resolution? just nope.
[04:35] <dingbat> Mmmph. I don't suppose there is a degenerate window manager whose sole purpose is to expose a pretty console?
[04:36] <daftykins> lol.
[04:37] <daftykins> wouldn't belong on a server
[04:37] <bayrak> :)
[04:37] <daftykins> i'm sure you can mess with config such that the resolution changes
[04:37] <daftykins> no idea where to even start with that one, mind you
[04:37] <bayrak> türkçe bilen var mı ?
[04:37] <bayrak> :D
[04:37] <EriC^_> !turkey | bayrak
[04:38] <daftykins> i like that little short number 1 character, very funny looking
[04:38] <dingbat> Someone out there has got to be insane enough to have made a minimal window manager that is literally just a pretty console
[04:38] <bearface> dingbat: heh, just SSH into it? and fullscreen the terminal app?
[04:39] <EriC^_> dingbat: the vga= isn't working?
[04:39] <dingbat> bearface: well, it's a physical box, local, that is best off not having a window manager (too slow), and I'd like to have it driving a monitor
[04:40] <dingbat> EriC^_: it works, but apparently running the console at 1280x1024 is a nono. Doesn't fit
[04:40] <bearface> righ, where ssh comes into the picture, unless it isn't networked
[04:41] <daftykins> reasons why we don't let everyone look after servers, #1...
[04:41] <dingbat> bearface: wouldn't I need a different machine driving that monitor then?
[04:41] <bearface> may i ask why you need local monitor output?
[04:41] <dingbat> daftykins: haha, it's an admittedly unorthodox use of Ubuntu Server. I've got 2GB of HDD space
[04:43] <dingbat> bearface: it's not running as a conventional server. More of a handy dandy little *nix box that provides quick SSH access to other boxen
[04:43] <daftykins> this VM that runs irssi dedicated has 2GB disk i think
[04:44] <bearface> dingbat: fair enough :)
[05:12] <maxwell_> hello
[05:13] <maxwell_> for some reason, I get this fatal error: m_sqlv2.h: No such file or directory error!
[05:14] <maxwell_> where can I get this header!
[05:15] <daftykins> when doing what?
[05:16] <maxwell_> oh, fixed
[05:16] <maxwell_> didn't download a file
[05:17] <maxwell_> ok, here is another
[05:17] <maxwell_> fatal error: tds.h: No such file or directory
[05:17] <jasonjckn> when I try to install ubuntu I get a popup dialogue that just says "??? ????"
[05:17] <jasonjckn> and an ok button
[05:17] <jasonjckn> and the install doesn't proceed
[05:17] <cfhowlett> jasonjckn, bad install.  did you verify the .iso and the USB?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | jasonjckn
[05:18] <maxwell_> what's the package that has tds.h
[05:24] <daftykins> !find tds.h
[05:25] <utopiabel> Ftp
[05:25] <daftykins> sftp
[05:29] <ZXCV> hello
[05:42] <jasonjckn> cfhowlett: it checks out
[05:43] <jasonjckn> no luck getting ubuntu installed on my raid
[05:44] <jasonjckn> with 14.04 I get a popup dialogue "??? ????"
[05:44] <jasonjckn> with 14.10 it crashes near the end
[05:47] <jasonjckn> it does install without raid
[05:47] <viktor01330> hello everyone, i had some more general questions about linux. can i do that here, or should i go to a diffrent channel?
[05:51] <wafflej0ck__> viktor01330, you may want to try #ubuntu-offtopic or #linux if it isn't an ubuntu support topic
[05:52] <viktor01330> i want to make a live usb stick for fixing computers with virusses and other problems, and just for running linux on other machine when i need to. but i'm unsure about what distro to use for this. knoppix, puppy, just a live bootable version of lubuntu...?
[05:54] <viktor01330> wafflej0ck__ thnks, will do
[05:55] <wafflej0ck__> viktor01330, yeah just depends on what you want to have available in terms of default packages and what else you'll be installing I know there are also other premade isos specific to windows recovery tasks that might be better like http://www.hirensbootcd.org/ though I've been a bit out of touch with windows support in the last few years
[05:59] <michaelk> Hello, I'm verry scared. I am a very experienced Ubuntu/*nix user and have install ubuntu on many machines. I just installed it on an Toshiba Sattalite (running windows 8 which is why I installed ubuntu) via a external 1 TB usb harddrive. I installed from a dvd (which I burned) and then used other options and set the partitions etc... Ubuntu Installed complete, and verry smoothly, awsome.
[06:00] <michaelk> Only there is one problem... When I boot the computer with the drive, it begins in a GRUB screen... Just black and Grub.
[06:00] <michaelk> I can use the windows loader but I have to first have the USB drive in. I need help
[06:00] <viktor01330> wafflej0ck__ what i'm looking for is not specifically for windows, if i can install some basic antivirus on the stick for the 3 major platform it's already good. plus some software like libreoffice, email client,...
[06:02] <michaelk> I need to be able to just start up the computer and not worry about grub, this is really concerning. I don't know why it does that
[06:05] <viktor01330> basically an OS on the go that can fix easier problems as well
[06:06] <michaelk> Has anybody had similar problems? Can somebody help me?
[06:07] <michaelk> @viktor01330 You want a virus protectant on ubuntu?
[06:08] <wafflej0ck__> viktor01330, yeah depends on your flash drive space and what you're most familiar with I suppose, I believe in any case you can have a persistent partition to the drive too, kind of agree with michaelk here though don't really think the OS X or Linux scanning is all that necessary, there are other types of hardening tools you can get though like lynis, fail2ban, clamav and/or rkhunter but usually just used server side
[06:09] <bish0p_> Can I get help? I think I, uh, may have deleted my trash directory somehow.
[06:10] <bish0p_> when I try to open my trash bin, it tells me "/home/***/trash" is not there
[06:10] <michaelk> I was going to sugest Clamav but even that is poor qual
[06:14] <x42> t
[06:15] <michaelk> Still need help and I'm really freaking out
[06:15] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, so yeah sounds like you setup grub bootloader on the external drive and switched it from having the boot flag on the internal drive it sounds like
[06:15] <michaelk> What do you mean?
[06:16] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, you said you installed ubuntu on an external drive right and you had windows on the internal, and now to boot the windows drive you need to have the USB connected or is that not right?
[06:16] <michaelk> Yes.
[06:17] <michaelk> Is there a way to eliminate that problem? Windows 8 has it's own bootloader/Bios and that needs to run first to boot windows
[06:17] <viktor01330> michaelk wafflej0ck__ not a virus protection, just an linux distro i can use everywhere, and can also fix some easy problems on windoze, or other computers. i guess i could make a live USB of lubuntu and install some extra software on that, right?
[06:17] <wafflej0ck__> okay so GRUB is the grand unified boot loader and it's used to give you a boot menu, it seems like that probably got installed on the USB drive but you probably want it installed on the internal drive... there might be an easier solution but that's my best guess
[06:19] <michaelk> Oh.
[06:19] <michaelk> Knoppix
[06:19] <michaelk> viktor01330 us Knoppix it's awesome, based on debian a nd is easy to mod
[06:19] <michaelk> it even installs on a dvd
[06:20] <michaelk> oh ok
[06:20] <wafflej0ck__> I'd just use one of the USB installer programs like unetbootin usually and let it do the work
[06:20] <wafflej0ck__> regarding the flash drive thing
[06:20] <wafflej0ck__> viktor01330^
[06:20] <redstar> Greetings,,
[06:21] <androidx86> hi redstar
[06:21] <viktor01330> michaelk, USB is easier to carry around, knoppix is not outdated?
[06:22] <michaelk> viktor01330 No it's still quite good and you can run it off a usb
[06:22] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, so ideally I'm assuming you have a backup of your windows drive in case something goes wrong here but here's the instructions to manually reinstall grub http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[06:22] <michaelk> wafflej0ck So can I re
[06:22] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, I'm not really sure about removing the existing grub setup though or if that'd be necessary, I don't think so though
[06:22] <michaelk> I don't have a back up right now because windows 8 removed that ability
[06:22] <viktor01330> michaelk, okay, how best to add software to it after installing (srry if these are stupid questions, i never made a live USB before)
[06:23] <wafflej0ck__> michael_mbp, you can use clonezilla if you have a big enough external/internal to back it up it just uses DD to copy the partitions block by block
[06:23] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, ^
[06:23] <michaelk> viktor01330 Once it is installed you can use sudo apt-get just like any other Debian/Ubutnu variant
[06:23] <wafflej0ck__> sorry michael_mbp, wrong nick
[06:24] <michaelk> lol it's ok
[06:24] <wafflej0ck__> ah is that you too?
[06:25] <redstar_> Greetings...
[06:25] <wafflej0ck__> time appropriate greetings redstar_
[06:26] <jen_> hello I have a quick question
[06:26] <michaelk> So can I just remove grub from my computer to use the windows bootloader I guess is my question
[06:26] <redstar_> I have a doubt about the installation of Ubuntu Touch on my Asus Zenphone 5.
[06:26] <redstar_> Is that possible in dual boot, with android?
[06:27] <jen_> I have two partitions on my computer, I have a 215 gig (the one I do not use for my main) and one that I DO use for my main (like when I log onto my computer) that other partition is not being used, how to I restore it back to my main partition which is 20 gigs
[06:28] <bubbasaures> !touch | redstar_
[06:28] <redstar_> Favorite bot, appreciate. As well, bubbasaures..
[06:28] <jen_> should I delete the partition of 215 gigs? will that restore it back to my main partition?
[06:28] <bubbasaures> jen_, define restore it back.
[06:29] <redstar_> I'll take a look.
[06:29] <neverblue> guys, can someone recommend a good US proxy site please ?
[06:29] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, you'd need to repair the windows boot can do that with the windows disc I'm pretty sure, but think it's easier to get the GRUB bootloader to see everything than to get the windows Bootloader to show another OS
[06:29] <bubbasaures> jen_, If the 215 gig is empty you would delete it and resize others
[06:30] <jen_> okay to put the 215 gigs back to my main partition which is only 28 gigs.
[06:30] <jen_> I can screenshot this and send it to a website this place uses if needed
[06:30] <viktor01330> neverblue, foxyproxy?
[06:30] <jen_> okay so deleting...will just delete the files right?
[06:30] <neverblue> u use them yourself ?
[06:31] <bubbasaures> jen_, A screenshot of gparted would be nice you will have to be on a live cd/usb however to do this.
[06:31] <viktor01330> neverblue, barely ever use proxy sites, but i had decent results with it
[06:31] <neverblue> perfect
[06:31] <neverblue> anyone else ?
[06:31] <bubbasaures> jen_, Primarily a clear description would go along way.
[06:31] <jen_> its very hard to describe, sorry
[06:31] <michaelk> I know but there is no other OS on my machine. Just windows
[06:31] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, that said I suppose that would be fine though if you have grub on the external and just windows boot loader on the internal and just change priority with the BIOS or a hotkey on boot you'd be fine
[06:32] <bubbasaures> jen_, In linux you can resize and make partitions no merging.
[06:32] <michaelk> I did that already
[06:32] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/ <-- you did this?
[06:32] <michaelk> It seems windows 8 has it's own software bios and dosen't understand all that switching
[06:33] <jen_> okay where shall I send the screenshot at and link it back here?
[06:33] <bubbasaures> !imagebin | jen_
[06:33] <michaelk> Windows sucks period
[06:33] <redstar_> 1sabayon
[06:34] <redstar_> !sabayon
[06:34] <viktor01330> michaelk, if you want to install something on a comp that came with win8, you have to change some security setting in th bios, uefa something
[06:34] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, yeah has EFI but I don't think GRUB actually modifies that it just loads the EFI file to get the rest of the config for booting the OS, I could be wrong on this though I'm not an expert just another user and web dev
[06:34] <michaelk> most features of crapdows 7 are gone
[06:34] <jen_> okay here is one http://i.imgur.com/0w63PWN.png
[06:34] <michaelk> let me check
[06:34] <jen_> http://i.imgur.com/mA5Dcin.png here is the second one
[06:35] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, personally I just run Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 and have a few Windows VMs for testing and stuff when I need it, desktop is dual boot still for gaming occasionally but barely use it really
[06:35] <redstar_> Night Night..
[06:36] <bubbasaures> jen_, From a live cd/usb you can resize the partitions.
[06:36] <michaelk> wafflej0ck I know but this is actually my college computer I need linux because I develope as a hobby
[06:36] <michaelk> lols
[06:36] <michaelk> I'm probably sounding like a pain in the but right now :P
[06:37] <jen_> okay so I cannot just go willy nilly and delete that big blob that says 200 something gigs
[06:37] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, ah gotcha
[06:37] <jen_> that will eff things up?
[06:37] <wafflej0ck__> EriC^_, you around? can you help michaelk by chance with UEFI/boot problems
[06:37] <bubbasaures> jen_, I would delete it your partitions are out of numerical order, the big one looks empty basically.
[06:38] <michaelk> I'm reading this right now http://askubuntu.com/questions/497791/installed-ubuntu-14-04-to-external-drive-on-windows-8-system-now-cant-boot-win
[06:38] <michaelk> this was suggested by another person I'm talking to also
[06:38] <wafflej0ck__> michaelk, I've seen EriC^_ walk people through the whole process in here before but not sure if he's around anymore today he's typically good at figuring out the boot issues
[06:38] <michaelk> cool
[06:39] <jen_> yeah I really don't have much in it, I just want it so I have full use of those gigs, my computer is running slow and I think that is why
[06:39] <bubbasaures> jen_, That is some very loose analysis.
[06:41] <viktor01330> michaelk, wafflej0ck__, thnks, probably will be back when i run into problems :p
[06:41] <jen_> and that means? haha
[06:46] <wafflej0ck__> jen_, to jump to the conclusion that X is causing Y without any solid evidence that it's the actual problem, typically running low on disk space (which isn't really evident here anyhow) isn't a reason your computer will be running slowly
[06:47] <wafflej0ck__> jen_, the main issues are 1 CPU is consumed, 2 RAM is consumed and is using SWAP from disk to deal with not having enough RAM for the programs running, 3 too much disk IO going on
[06:47] <wafflej0ck__> jen_, you can use, top in the terminal to see CPU usage, iotop for disk usage, free -m, for RAM in megabytes
[06:49] <michael_1> What is a good solution if I need to remotely make a backup of full Ubuntu system? I mean, it will need root privileges, so should I enable root account?
[06:49] <michaelk> going to try something
[06:49] <michael_1> I use rsnapshot
[06:51] <wafflej0ck__> michael_1, not sure I use AWS so I just use their snapshots typically through the web interface I believe ZFS offers online snapshots of the filesystem but I haven't experimented with it at all yet
[06:56] <shadaloo> hello
[06:56] <shadaloo> I started a torrent using the liveCD
[06:56] <shadaloo> and have filled up the space on the drive
[06:56] <shadaloo> when I try to copy the file
[06:56] <shadaloo> I am only able to copy 16MB
[06:56] <shadaloo> is there someway to free space
[06:57] <shadaloo> so I can copy my progress
[06:57] <jen_> well thank you lads I think I've got it from here, Cheers!
[07:01] <neverblue> seems I cannot pay (paypal) for foxproxy
[07:01] <neverblue> site issues
[07:01] <neverblue> anyone else have a recommendation for a US proxy ?
[07:03] <groovestix> hey folks. can anyone help me troubleshoot my samba configuration, i can't seem to make my share accessible.  the error that i get in my windows box is that i don't have the permissions to access the share.
[07:13] <LarsBuntu> I need help getting the boot system working
[07:14] <bunbury_> Hello all
[07:15] <bunbury_> how does one enable searching with thunar ?
[07:15] <bunbury_> xubuntu xfce
[07:16] <LarsBuntu> this is just Ubuntu.  Toshiba Satellite netbook.  32gig eMMC internal storage.  rEFInd on USB stick boots fine.  I havent tried "installing" rEFInd on the eMMC yet.  Ubuntu 14.10 ISO on a 2gig flash drive boots fine and installs.  Ubuntu does not boot on its on though, I get a black screen with white text telling me that the media is not bootable
[07:18] <LarsBuntu> I have already tried the Boot-Repair script
[07:19] <jasonjckn> michael_1: i think there's windows 8 bootloader repair tools
[07:20] <jasonjckn> why does ubuntu still try to install grub when using uefi?
[07:20] <jasonjckn> it's screwing up the installation
[07:20] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, refind is not supported by ubuntu.
[07:21] <cfhowlett> jasonjckn, because you told it to.  you can choose NOT to install a bootloader on the partitioning page
[07:21] <jasonjckn> cfhowlett: i looked for that option, i'll look again
[07:21] <cfhowlett> jasonjckn, bottom of the partitioning page
[07:22] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: well, what im saying is that refind works.  ubuntu is not currently booting without it.  so i need help
[07:22] <LarsBuntu> I want ubuntu to be able to boot without it
[07:23] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, do you have OSX on this machine?
[07:23] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: no. this is a toshiba satellite netbook with touchscreen.  brand new.  Ubuntu only.  I plan to run windows 8.1 virtualized
[07:23] <LarsBuntu> but first I need ubuntu booting.
[07:24] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[07:24] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, refind is a hack for installing ubuntu to MACS.  no good reason to install refind on a non-mac and you should not expect it to work on a non-mac.
[07:24] <mahdi_ja> i install samba in ubuntu 14.0.4 workstation and run samba service but can not connect to samaba machine in windows client
[07:24] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: i tried it on a whim.  it does work.  a bit slow, but it works.  I'm out of ideas on how to get ubuntu booting unassisted.  I do not want to run refind on this system long-term
[07:25] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, grub is the default ubuntu bootloader ...
[07:25] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: yes, and it doesnt appear to be working. at all.  i dont get the grub screen
[07:26] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: refind is chain loading grub.  if i select ubuntu, then i get the chain loaded grub it looks like
[07:27] <LarsBuntu> what I have on the screen now is Boot Repair running from the ubuntu live image booting off USB
[07:28] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, you seem determined to force feed a foreign bootloader for use in a non-supported fashion.  better to figure out a grub solution.  anyway, as refind is absolutely not supported here ... good luck with that.
[07:28] <LarsBuntu> BootInfo summary: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9628589
[07:28] <jasonjckn> cfhowlett: are you referring to "Device for boot loader installation" dropdown menu?
[07:28] <jasonjckn> cfhowlett: i don't see the option
[07:28] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: No.  Listen to me.  I do not want to run refind.  I do not want to run refind.  It is currently the *ONLY WAY* I've been able to boot the installed version of Ubuntu.  I want Ubuntu to boot WITHOUT REFIND
[07:29] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, reinstall grub.
[07:29] <cfhowlett> jasonjckn, device for boot loader should give the option of installing nothing
[07:29] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: I am currently booted on the live image.  I have Boot Repair running.  The BootInfo paste it provides is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9628589
[07:29] <jasonjckn> it doesn't :( cfhowlett
[07:29] <LarsBuntu> cfhowlett: I have run Boot Repair already
[07:31] <cfhowlett> LarsBuntu, lots of people smarter than me are in this channel.  perhaps they can help get it going.  sorry.
[07:31] <LarsBuntu> can anyone else help me? I'm not super new to Ubuntu or Linux but I don't have a lot of experience with EFI or debugging grub
[07:32] <LarsBuntu> I know enough about Ubuntu to use the custom partitioning to make the root filesystem BTRFS since I'm using an internal 32gig eMMC for a "SSD"
[07:33] <LarsBuntu> and my install does work under refind quite nicely.
[07:33] <jasonjckn> cfhowlett: made a bogus partition and selected that ;-)
[07:33] <cfhowlett> jasonjckn, ... kinky
[07:34] <function9x> LarsBuntu: can you get into the bios of that laptop
[07:34] <LarsBuntu> function9x: yes but there's not a lot I can do there.  ive tried turning on and off the secure boot feature.  currenty its set to boot USB first, then internal eMMC
[07:35] <function9x> uhuh
[07:36] <function9x> is there an option for uefi?
[07:36] <jasonjckn> 6 hours later ubuntu is finally installed on my raid
[07:36] <LarsBuntu> function9x: no.  though
[07:36] <function9x> hmmm
[07:36] <LarsBuntu> I see the refind USB disk has a lot of files I don't see on the ubuntu-installed EFI partition
[07:38] <jasonjckn> uhg but looks like 14.10 is buggy
[07:38] <jasonjckn> can't connect to wireless
[07:38] <function9x> LarsBuntu: I'm aware each laptop is different. It took me awhile to setup kubuntu on this laptop. I did a LOT of trial and error, by disabling and enabling things in the bios.
[07:39] <LarsBuntu> function9x: this one doesnt have a lot of options.  its designed to run windows 8.1 and *only* 8.1
[07:39] <LarsBuntu> in the boot repair advanced options, should the boot flag be set on the EFI partition or the drive itself?
[07:40] <function9x> LarsBuntu: which model is that?
[07:40] <LarsBuntu> Toshiba Satellite L15W-B1303
[07:45] <function9x> LarsBuntu: yeah not much about that laptop, when you were installing ubuntu, did you set it auto partition or did you manually did it yourself?
[07:48] <LarsBuntu> function9x: I did it myself.  it has a 128meg EFI partition and a large (32gig) btrfs root.  I wanted to do it custom to use btrfs instead of ext4 because its eMMC, not hard drive
[07:54] <theme2> hi
[07:54] <theme2> I'm always having problems with my computer when it sleeps
[07:55] <theme2> When I "wake up" the computer, the mouse/cursor is ok, but everything else is unresponsive
[07:55] <function9x> LarsBuntu: 32gb ssd right? sorry kinda doing a backup of something at the same time
[07:55] <theme2> I have to press the power button to fix it
[07:59] <LarsBuntu> function9x: yes 32gb SSD.  which is why this is ubuntu only.
[08:00] <function9x> LarsBuntu: ok do a fresh install again, but this time use ext4
[08:02] <function9x> LarsBuntu: ie: /boot 512M ext4 , swap 2GB, / 28GB ext4
[08:02] <function9x> just to see how it goes
[08:02] <LarsBuntu> function9x: ... um, nobody uses /boot anymore.  and no swap should not be used with flash/ssd.
[08:03] <LarsBuntu> function9x: more importantly though its not even getting to anywhere where the filesystem should be an issue.  GRUB isn't booting. at all.
[08:03] <LarsBuntu> its not finding GRUB on boot.
[08:03] <function9x> yeah exactly because it's efi
[08:03] <LarsBuntu> function9x: yes GRUB is on the EFI partition
[08:04] <LarsBuntu> this is an EFI-only system. it doesn't appear to support legacy booting at all.
[08:04] <function9x> damn my usb hdd is not big enough for my file transfer
[08:13] <function9x> LarsBuntu: like I said before I had to do a lot of trial and error with my laptop, before I got it right. mine is efi too. http://i.imgur.com/PfB384e.png
[08:13] <function9x> trial and error man, keep it simple
[08:13] <function9x> bbl house chores
[08:16] <LarsBuntu> xxxbbxbxxxkbxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxbbdfffg7cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc6666
[08:16] <LarsBuntu> 66r82l88
[08:16] <LarsBuntu> erp sorry
[08:17] <LarsBuntu> function9x: your suggestion has absolutely nothing to do with grub.  clearly, grub is not getting installed correctly
[08:28] <squale> Hi
[08:28] <andrew_46> squale: hi :)
[08:28] <Caleb--> hi
[08:28] <Caleb--> my nfs4 mounts seem to be unmounted automatically if i i don't use them
[08:29] <Caleb--> i mounted them to /media so that i could see them in nautilus, but after a while they disappear, and i have to enter them manually in order for them to reappear
[08:29] <Caleb--> is there any way to have them constantly mounted?
[08:35] <dolphin> hello! my computer is constantly making dns requests and generating udp traffic, can anybody help me figure out why?
[08:35] <dolphin> example : 8216 777.720946 192.168.2.108 -> 192.168.2.1  DNS 87 Standard query 0x14cb  PTR 186.93.166.122.in-addr.arpa
[08:36] <kles4enko> It can be anything) game, app, virus)))
[08:36] <kles4enko> or connection to router)
[08:37] <dolphin> it is like, constantly making dns requests to strange places
[08:38] <wafflej0ck__> dolphin, you can use netstat -tulnp to see a list of ports open associated with various processes
[08:39] <wafflej0ck__> dolphin, can also try nmap localhost to scan for open ports
[08:39] <dolphin> my only open port is ssh, i have been trying to use netstat and lsof but to no avail
[08:40] <fooghost> dolphin: that's ip for airtel INdia
[08:40] <fooghost> are you from india?
[08:40] <dolphin> no
[08:40] <dolphin> theres tons of them though
[08:40] <dolphin> triband-mum-59.182.177.112.mtnl.net.in
[08:40] <dolphin> 127.230.225.105.in-addr.arpa
[08:40] <dolphin> 105-225-230-127.south.dsl.telkomsa.net
[08:41] <dolphin> etc etc etc
[08:41] <fooghost> seem like a spyware want to find its home target
[08:41] <dolphin> im also seeing encrypted traffic leaving my box, this is very unsettling
[08:41] <fooghost> to send log, maybe
[08:41] <fooghost> check your pc for spyware
[08:42] <degenorate> can anybody help me make a limited user on ubuntu, i only want them to be able to access one directory
[08:43] <dolphin> degenorate: you should check out access control lists
[08:44] <degenorate> dolphin, where?
[08:45] <wafflej0ck__> degenorate, you can just google about ACLs in Ubuntu but for just a user account that needs access to 1 folder don't think that's necessary
[08:45] <wafflej0ck__> degenorate, you can just add the user to a group that has the appropriate permissions for accessing the directory
[08:46] <fooghost> degenorate: learn to use chroot
[08:48] <ubuntu228> Hey everyone. I need to add an empty space in from of every line terminal outputs (basically start every line in terminal with an empty space). How can i do that?
[08:48] <ubuntu228> I use terminator btw
[08:49] <ramsub07> Hi guys, I'm using a hybrid graphic laptop, is there anyway by which I could stop my AMD graphic card and use my intel alone ?
[08:49] <FSK405C> there is
[08:49] <FSK405C> quite a few guides over @ ubuntu on that very subject, especially insofar as macbooks go
[08:50] <FSK405C> or the forums.. or askubuntu. I came across two or three accidentally just browsing docs the last few days
[08:50] <FSK405C> guessing you are looking for power savings? I’m gonna guess from the look of the instructions I saw for macbook intel graphics it’s gonna be fairly machine specific, but I could be wrong.
[08:51] <FSK405C> lemme see if I cant dig up ..
[08:51] <ramsub07> FSK405C: Yes, for power saving purpose..
[08:56] <function9x> LarsBuntu: sorry man i was doing multiple things at once. When you try to do a fresh install, there should be an option there to use boot efi, set that for 500MB. then / 27GB, and if you want swap that is entirely upto you
[08:56] <degenorate> im pretty basic ubuntu user, still learning alot. i tried it myself. i edited the permissions in winscp and now my non-root user cant access anything lol
[08:56] <enyc> Hrrm...  I seem to hve mange to activate some weird mode where numlock on keyboard acts like an extra hard disk light...  but i t seems to be interefering with keypresses too =( ... any idea what on earth triggers this mode / what it is called??
[08:58] <function9x> ramsub07: I think you can try to blacklist it. I'm not sure how that works though
[08:58] <tomatto> please, how can i get nvidia drivers 173 into (l)ubuntu 14.10?
[08:59] <ikonia> tomatto: is that package not in the repo ?
[08:59] <tomatto> ikonia: nop :(
[09:00] <tomatto> it is not
[09:00] <ikonia> tomatto: then it's not meant for your sysmte
[09:00] <ikonia> system
[09:00] <tomatto> only >310
[09:00] <ikonia> tomatto: ubuntu picks the nvidia binary blobs it will thinks will work best with that version, packages and then supports those
[09:00] <tomatto> but my graphics card nvidia geforce fx 5200 is not supported by new drivers in repo
[09:01] <ikonia> again, thats probably by design
[09:02] <tomatto> by design is not supported my graphics card? great, it's going better and better
[09:07] <ikonia> rationality: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[09:08] <ikonia> rationality: oops, sorry, never mind
[09:09] <tomatto> ikonia: 14.10
[09:09] <ikonia> tomatto: I know, you've already told me and I've explained the situatin to you
[09:11] <tomatto> and nouveau driver makes videos not continually playing
[09:23] <xoxo> hi all
[09:23] <xoxo> How do you address a kernal panic?
[09:23] <ikonia> that is not an easy question
[09:23] <ikonia> it depends on a lot of things
[09:24] <xoxo> I tried reinstalling over the ubuntu thats on the harddrive
[09:24] <xoxo> multiple times
[09:24] <xoxo> no dice
[09:24] <ikonia> xoxo: lets step back and walk through it
[09:24] <ikonia> xoxo: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[09:24] <ikonia> exact version/distro please.
[09:25] <xoxo> I think it's 13  kernal 3.16
[09:25] <ikonia> think isn't good enough
[09:25] <xoxo> I havnt used this laptop for a while
[09:25] <ikonia> you need to know exactly what version you are trying to install and what distro
[09:25] <xoxo> the install is current
[09:26] <xoxo> 14
[09:26] <ikonia> sorry - please be exact
[09:26] <xoxo> I dont care what I install
[09:26] <xoxo> I just want on os
[09:26] <ikonia> what is the exact ubuntu version/distro you are using
[09:26] <xoxo> I tried ubuntu because it works
[09:26] <xoxo> I attempted a bunch of other OSs also
[09:26] <ikonia> what is the exact ubuntu version/distro you are using
[09:26] <xoxo> I think the version that was/is on the harddrive is 13
[09:26] <xoxo> I cant tell
[09:27] <ikonia> what is the version you are trying to install
[09:27] <xoxo> I havnt used this laptop in a couple years
[09:27] <xoxo> I know ther kernal
[09:27] <ikonia> what is the version you are trying to install
[09:27] <xoxo> because it gets to the log screen
[09:27] <ikonia> what is the version you are trying to install
[09:27] <xoxo> current
[09:27] <xoxo> 14.1
[09:27] <ikonia> which one exactly
[09:27] <ikonia> there is no 14.1 release
[09:27] <xoxo> vanilla
[09:28] <xoxo> unity
[09:28] <ikonia> please get me the exact ubuntu version you are trying to install
[09:28] <xoxo> I have tried installing via usa a doz3n times tonight
[09:28] <ikonia> stop
[09:28] <ikonia> no more discussion until you get me the exact version you are trying to install please.
[09:28] <xoxo> different things I can get through the installation processes
[09:28] <xoxo> but they never bootback up form the hard drive
[09:28] <ikonia> no more discussion until you get me the exact version you are trying to install please.
[09:29] <xoxo> 14.10 unity
[09:29] <xoxo> ubuntu
[09:29] <ikonia> there we go
[09:29] <ikonia> how are you trying to install it
[09:29] <ikonia> via DVD ?
[09:29] <xoxo> thats what I have on the usb
[09:29] <xoxo> usb
[09:29] <ikonia> ok
[09:29] <xoxo> no disk
[09:29] <ikonia> are you formatting the partitions when you do the install ?
[09:29] <xoxo> no
[09:29] <ikonia> then do that
[09:29] <xoxo> attempting to write over
[09:29] <ikonia> you can't install over the top
[09:30] <xoxo> when it asks if I want to use existing partitions I say no
[09:30] <xoxo> I used gparted to erase the partitions
[09:30] <xoxo> it was dual boot
[09:30] <ikonia> ok, please follow these steps
[09:31] <ikonia> 1.) boot the USB stick, open the partitioning tool and delete ALL partitions and save
[09:31] <ikonia> 2.) reboot
[09:31] <xoxo> I did that
[09:31] <ikonia> you should get an error saying "no operating system found" or words to that effect
[09:31] <xoxo> with gparted
[09:31] <ikonia> 3.) boot from the ubuntu USB again and select the recommended layout install
[09:31] <ikonia> 4.) let the install complete
[09:31] <ikonia> then report back
[09:32] <xoxo> ok ill tell you what happens
[09:40] <guddu> hi im new to irc..
[09:44] <xoxo> sorry I am getting a boot error the bios is weird on this computer
[09:44] <ikonia> what is the boot error
[09:44] <guddu> what error xcatly..?
[09:46] <xoxo> reeboot and select proper boot device or insert boot media
[09:46] <ikonia> I suspect you have selected the wrong device to install grub to
[09:46] <ikonia> so there is no grub on the boot disk
[09:46] <ikonia> it's probably been installed onto the USB as you are installing from usb
[09:48] <White_Cat> err
[09:48] <White_Cat> I am strugling with an issue
[09:48] <xoxo> got it
[09:48] <White_Cat> I want to know which user has the UID 1000
[09:48] <ikonia> normally the default user at install time
[09:48] <ikonia> that is the starting UID for ubuntu installs
[09:49] <llutz> White_Cat: getent passwd 1000
[09:49] <Caleb--> i can't believe this bug is not fixed yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1226962
[09:49] <White_Cat> ah indeed the account I had selected during setup
[09:50] <White_Cat> what about for group uid ?
[09:50] <ikonia> White_Cat: same
[09:50] <ikonia> White_Cat: default user is 1000:1000
[09:50] <llutz> White_Cat:simple check: getent group 1000
[09:57] <xoxo> I dont get the no operating system found message it says reboot and select propopper boot device
[09:58] <ikonia> xoxo: right, because your OS disk does not have a boot sector on it (grub)
[09:58] <ikonia> or valid boot loader I should say
[10:00] <solsTiCe> hi. when I open the lid and the laptop wake up, I always got chromium on the first screen (the laptop one). why ? whay can't it stay on the second screen during the sleep ?
[10:00] <ikonia> normally because the graphics drivers are shut down
[10:00] <ikonia> it can't remember the location
[10:01] <xoxo> huh
[10:02] <xoxo> I am at the step with the partition menu and it says: ubi-partman failed with exit code 141
[10:02] <kai`> Hi
[10:02] <xoxo> further information can be found in /var/log/syslog.
[10:03] <xoxo> y that my install might fail
[10:03] <ikonia> xoxo: repeat the process I told you earlier
[10:03] <ikonia> that worked last time
[10:04] <xoxo> I'm restarting the install
[10:05] <xoxo> the partitions should be gone
[10:12] <Istalantar> hi, there is something that's bugging me. When i alt+tab to other windows/programmes all windows of the same programm get stacked, which means i have to wait 1-2 seconds to alt+tab through those windows and select the one i want to use .... The question I have is, can I disable the stacking, so every window is directly selectable
[10:13] <notfadssss> can someone help me and look at a bootlog issue?
[10:13] <ikonia> why don't you just explain the issue, so that people know if they can help
[10:14] <xoxo> I got the same message
[10:14] <xoxo> its perplexing
[10:14] <notfadssss> I did not want to be rude, and flood channel but I just finished installing ubuntu server and at initial reboot I get a black screen no grub or anything
[10:14] <xoxo> reboot and select proper boot device
[10:14] <ikonia> xoxo: same thing - it's not installing grub to the device you are booting from
[10:15] <notfadssss> which device would that be? I have changed the boot order
[10:15] <xoxo> can I install grub another way?
[10:15] <notfadssss> I have even selected the partition ubuntu is installed on >.>
[10:16] <ikonia> xoxo: the installer is fine, just during the install make sure you select the correct device
[10:16] <xoxo> it's the whole harddrive
[10:17] <ikonia> yes, but there are 2 disks in your system, the hard disk and the usb disk
[10:17] <xoxo> what else is there to select?
[10:17] <ikonia> xoxo: it sounds like it's installing grub to the usb disk, rather than the hard disk
[10:18] <notfadssss> I cannot imagine how after installing ubuntu on the hdd that it would then go install grub on a usb... but you believe thatis the issue?
[10:18] <ikonia> notfadssss: I'm not talking to you
[10:18] <ikonia> notfadssss: hence why I'm saying the username xoxo in front of my statements
[10:19] <notfadssss> oh :\
[10:24] <notfadssss> well, if anyone has a moment to help I would greatly appreciate it.
[10:36] <clausen> I can't get linux/grub/livecd/anything-except-windows to boot on my UEFI laptop
[10:40] <brent> ive got several irc cli programs running which are hogging memory
[10:40] <c-moi> clausen, try to boot on windows and execute the ubuntu / setup.exe
[10:40] <brent> is there anyway to limit their ram usage or to clear it from cache?
[10:40] <ikonia> clausen: do not do that
[10:40] <clausen> c-moi, you mean wubi.exe?  I tried that, it also didn't work
[10:41] <theadmin> c-moi: I suggest you don't do that. WUBI is not supported on EFI systems.
[10:41] <ikonia> brent: why do you think they are using/hogging ram
[10:41] <c-moi> oh ?
[10:41] <c-moi> that's what I did with a debian installer
[10:41] <brent> i have no idea, theyre connected to irc 24/7, theres about 30 clients
[10:41] <clausen> c-moi, (first, it didn't give me any options at all.  Then it said it installed, and it added something to the windows boot manager, but that was never able to boot...)
[10:41] <c-moi> and then I installed Ubuntu 14.04
[10:41] <ikonia> brent: why do you think they are using your ram ?
[10:42] <c-moi> it was on a Acer netboot with UEFI
[10:42] <clausen> how is it supposed to work?  I don't see how the ISO can possibly meet the UEFI specification (which I'm reading now...)
[10:42] <brent> my system says i have 140meg ram left out of 8 gug
[10:42] <ikonia> brent: where does it say this
[10:42] <c-moi> well at least, I could have access to the Bios and boot options, and could turn off the UEFI boot
[10:42] <theadmin> clausen: The Ubuntu image is properly signed and all that, but I have to point out that it may not work from USB
[10:42] <theadmin> clausen: At least, from my understanding
[10:43] <brent> free -m
[10:43] <theadmin> brent: http://linuxatemyram.com
[10:43] <clausen> theadmin, I don't think it's a signature problem -- I have disabled SecureBoot.  I think it's just that the UEFI firmware only recognises FAT32, not iso9660
[10:43] <ikonia> brent: who is running all the IRC clients ?
[10:43] <c-moi> brent, the "free" memory is not the only one which is free. See the buffered and cached
[10:43] <clausen> (that's just conjecture... honestly, I have no idea what the problem is)
[10:44] <clausen> I tried copying the contents of the ISO onto a USB flash drive formatted with fat32, but that doesn't work either
[10:44] <theadmin> clausen: I don't think so, after all, the Ubuntu image is designed to be EFI bootable. Just copying the contents like that won't work though, that is to be expected.
[10:44] <theadmin> Honestly, I just use legacy mode, EFI is too much of a pain.
[10:45] <clausen> theadmin, just to be clear: I have an official Ubuntu DVD, that does *not* work
[10:45] <clausen> theadmin, my laptop doesn't have a legacy mode
[10:45] <theadmin> clausen: Oh blimey.
[10:45] <clausen> theadmin, the official DVD doesn't work
[10:45] <theadmin> That's quite a problem.
[10:45] <theadmin> clausen: By the way, did you make sure to disable Fast Startup in Windows?
[10:45] <clausen> theadmin, let me double check...
[10:46] <brent> ikonia, so.. -/+ buffers/cache:       2388       5470
[10:46] <ikonia> brent: thats fine
[10:46] <brent> ;) i notice the system slows down quite a bit
[10:46] <ikonia> brent: who is running all the IRC clients
[10:47] <brent> i am
[10:47] <theadmin> brent: Then... close them?
[10:47] <brent> theyre different bots, which need to be up
[10:48] <ikonia> brent: if your IRC clients are using 7GB - you are using them for something they shouldn't be doing
[10:48] <ikonia> brent: they are only using the ram they need
[10:48] <ikonia> brent: flush your cache and see how much is free
[10:48] <ikonia> brent: I'd suspect your bots may have memory leaks
[10:48] <brent> which could be possible
[10:49] <clausen> theadmin, I don't think Fast Startup is relevant -- I can access the UEFI firmware without any trouble
[10:49] <VimFleed> anyone here who uses crouton to enjoy linux beside chromeos?
[10:49] <ikonia> crouton ?
[10:49] <theadmin> ikonia: Script to install Xubuntu on a Chromebook
[10:50] <ikonia> so not really ubuntu then
[10:50] <VimFleed> ikonia, yes  it's a script used on chromeos to install linux
[10:50] <theadmin> Yeah
[10:50] <VimFleed> yea manily ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> VimFleed: it's not ubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> VimFleed: it still runs within chromeos
[10:51] <VimFleed> ikonia, is it a technical difference only?
[10:51] <ikonia> no
[10:51] <ikonia> it's a significant difference
[10:51] <theadmin> Stuff may break and nobody here will have any idea why since you're operating in such an uncommon environment, basically, VimFleed
[10:51] <VimFleed> ikonia, how does it make my everyday use of linux different?
[10:51] <ikonia> it uses chromeos
[10:52] <VimFleed> theadmin, make sense
[10:52] <ikonia> VimFleed: I suggest you talk to the script support team to explain the risks/issues
[10:52] <brent> ikonia, how does one flush their cache
[10:52] <VimFleed> ikonia, but on the other side, it offers linux on a cheap laptops
[10:52] <ikonia> brent: interface with a proc parameter,
[10:52] <ikonia> VimFleed: no it doesn't
[10:52] <VimFleed> ikonia, how come?
[10:53] <ikonia> because it's not linux as I've just said
[10:53] <ikonia> it's chromeos
[10:53] <theadmin> ...Well ChromeOS is Gentoo so it is Linux, technically speaking.
[10:53] <ikonia> VimFleed: I suggest you talk to the support teams who make/support the script
[10:53] <clausen> theadmin, disabling fast boot didn't help
[10:53] <theadmin> But not Ubuntu, yup
[10:53] <VimFleed> ikonia, I'm using a cheap HP 14 which is only $200 to use linux
[10:53] <theadmin> clausen: Uh... I really have no idea why it isn't working >.<
[10:53] <ikonia> VimFleed: so ?
[10:54] <ikonia> not sure what that has to do wiht anything
[10:54] <theadmin> VimFleed: Point is, it ain't really supported here.
[10:54] <VimFleed> ikonia, so it does offer linux experience on cheap laptops
[10:54] <ikonia> VimFleed: this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:56] <Seveas> we should have a !crouton or !chromeos factoid that points people to the right place to find support
[10:56] <ikonia> Seveas: agreed, note added
[10:57] <Seveas> Because it sure as hell is unsupported by Ubuntu and Google :-)
[10:57] <santhosh> how to install app runer in ubuntu
[10:57] <Seveas> well, crouton is. obviosuly google supports chromeos :)
[10:57] <Seveas> santhosh: what is 'app runer'?
[10:57] <santhosh> i want install whats up in ubuntu it is porssible
[10:57] <theadmin> santhosh: You mean WhatsApp?
[10:58] <theadmin> santhosh: Your best bet would be using Genymotion or another Android emulator.
[10:58] <Seveas> santhosh: if you mean 'WhatsApp', then no, they only support android and iphone phones I believe. Maybe win8, but definitely not Ubuntu.
[10:59] <cob> what's that program that's like top, but newer?
[10:59] <marshal0505> cob: htop ?
[10:59] <theadmin> cob: "newer"? You mean htop?
[10:59] <ikonia> what's wrong with "top" why do you need newer ?
[10:59] <cob> hehe, yeah
[10:59] <cob> ikonia: just... looking at new things
[10:59] <White_Cat> I am having quite a headache
[11:00] <White_Cat> I am looking for a mailserver that will only get connections from localhost
[11:00] <White_Cat> I ideally do not want to use unix usernames for this
[11:00] <White_Cat> what client would be most usable for this
[11:00] <oddeyed> Hiya everyone! I have a strange problem: in order to print a ` character, I have to push the key twice. And after pressing ` once, none of my other keypresses work. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
[11:00] <Seveas> White_Cat: ssmtp?
[11:01] <theadmin> oddeyed: You have an international layout.
[11:01] <White_Cat> the mailserver will recieve external mail and send them too
[11:01] <theadmin> oddeyed: Switch to an "English (US)" or a similar layout, it will stop.
[11:01] <White_Cat> Seveas ssmtp would only send not receive
[11:01] <theadmin> oddeyed: Generally speaking, in international layouts, `e = è and such
[11:01] <oddeyed> theadmin: Okay, lemme give it a try ^_^
[11:01] <ikonia> White_Cat: the client has nothing to do with it
[11:01] <White_Cat> I meant what server
[11:02] <ikonia> White_Cat: you can use any mail server that you know best
[11:02] <ikonia> the one that you know the best is the obvious choice
[11:02] <White_Cat> I know none
[11:02] <notfadssss> can anyone help me out for a second? I just installed ubuntu lamp after fresh install initial restart is only bringing me to a blank screen - I have bootlog report if someones got a moment to take a look at this I would greatly appreciate it
[11:02] <ikonia> then pick one to learn, use the default from ubuntu if any any doubt
[11:02] <White_Cat> which one is the default
[11:02] <ikonia> look on your system
[11:02] <White_Cat> bah
[11:02] <ikonia> White_Cat: you said you'd done research on this ?
[11:02] <ikonia> it's postfix
[11:03] <Seveas> White_Cat: proxsmtpmd without a filter configured?
[11:03] <wh-hw> anybody see same things like this : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1405691???
[11:04] <oddeyed> theadmin: Thanks! It worked perfectly! (^_^)`
[11:04] <wh-hw> i need help with that !!!
[11:04] <wh-hw> pls
[11:04] <White_Cat> I tried postfix and configuring it is harder than programming a space shuttle
[11:04] <ikonia> it's quite straight forward
[11:04] <White_Cat> it really isnt
[11:04] <ikonia> if you explain the problem specifcially
[11:04] <ikonia> people can help
[11:04] <White_Cat> I have done that
[11:04] <bekks> You havent.
[11:04] <White_Cat> I will do so again
[11:05] <Seveas> White_Cat: if you find configuring postfix hard, the internet doesn't want you running a mailserver :-)
[11:05] <ikonia> Seveas: this is the truth
[11:05] <White_Cat> I have a system which will only recieve user connections from localhost
[11:05] <wh-hw> i installed ubuntu 14.10 on my asus n551jm , but it no sound
[11:05] <White_Cat> all those connections will come from odoo which can use pop and imap
[11:05] <Seveas> seriously, dpkg-reconfigure can set it up appropriately for most common things with no manual config.
[11:05] <ikonia> White_Cat: we don't need the whole thing again
[11:05] <White_Cat> as well as something called "local server"
[11:05] <ikonia> White_Cat: just the problem
[11:06] <White_Cat> you wanted me to explain
[11:06] <ikonia> White_Cat: just the problem
[11:06] <ikonia> White_Cat: we can ask for specifics depending on the problem
[11:06] <notfadssss> Can anyone take a look at this boot report and tell me why ubuntu wont boot :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/
[11:06] <White_Cat> the problem is that odoo marks mail as read the moment it connects to it
[11:06] <bekks> White_Cat: Why is that a problem?? And how is that related to an SMTP server?
[11:07] <White_Cat> I can explain
[11:07] <ikonia> that doesn't sound like a problem with a mail server
[11:07] <White_Cat> so I intend to make a copy of each email to foo@bar.org to foo@erp.bar.org
[11:07] <White_Cat> I need a mail server to run all email with @erp.bar.org
[11:07] <bekks> White_Cat: Data duplication will not solve any issue.
[11:07] <White_Cat> it will totally solve the issue
[11:07] <bekks> It will not.
[11:08] <White_Cat> since people will not have their email marked as read
[11:08] <ikonia> that is not a solution
[11:08] <ikonia> that is a crazy approach to a CRM not configured / working properly
[11:08] <White_Cat> well, that is the problem I have
[11:08] <Seveas> White_Cat: do you also buy a new car when the ash tray is full?
[11:08] <bekks> White_Cat: If you process the mails automatically, why do you need them to be processed manually by the users again?
[11:09] <bekks> That concept is lacking sense. :)
[11:09] <White_Cat> because users want to read their mail at their own pace
[11:09] <bekks> Then do not process them automatically.
[11:09] <White_Cat> and they also want a copy to appear in the erp system
[11:09] <White_Cat> I have to achieve both
[11:09] <bekks> Being a user, I'd harass you if you duplicate my mails. :)
[11:09] <ikonia> White_Cat: so telling odoo to not mark mail as read seems a logical approach ?
[11:09] <White_Cat> odoo always marks them as read
[11:09] <ikonia> White_Cat: or working with odoo to resolve the issue
[11:09] <White_Cat> I lack a way to do that
[11:09] <ikonia> rather than some crazy mail setup
[11:10] <ikonia> this problem is an odoo problem, not a mail server problem
[11:10] <White_Cat> hence why I didnt want to explain you the problem
[11:10] <White_Cat> it would be a waste of my time
[11:10] <ikonia> White_Cat: right, so now you know where to look
[11:10] <White_Cat> and yours
[11:10] <White_Cat> no I do not
[11:10] <ikonia> White_Cat: talk to Odoo team
[11:10] <White_Cat> I still need that mail server
[11:10] <bekks> You dont.
[11:10] <bekks> You need to fix odoo.
[11:10] <White_Cat> yes I do
[11:10] <ikonia> White_Cat: raise bug/work with them to resolve "auto read mails"
[11:11] <ikonia> may be as simple as a configuration parameter
[11:11] <White_Cat> its not
[11:11] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[11:11] <White_Cat> I have spent a good month on this
[11:11] <ikonia> yeah, but you didn't even know the mail server
[11:11] <White_Cat> odoo is horrible with emmail
[11:11] <ikonia> so your research trouble shooting seems lacking
[11:11] <White_Cat> ikonia why would I care about the mail server?
[11:11] <White_Cat> honestly
[11:11] <bekks> White_Cat: And you didnt eve create a bug on this towards the odoo team.
[11:11] <ikonia> White_Cat: because you're using it to send mail
[11:12] <ikonia> White_Cat: which seems pretty key to the system interacting with the mail server
[11:12] <ikonia> White_Cat: is your name Lawrence by any chance
[11:12] <White_Cat> no my name isnt that
[11:12] <White_Cat> what an odd question
[11:12] <ikonia> White_Cat: ok, on the mailing list there is a guy on the odoo mailing list called lawrence with your same problem
[11:12] <Dat> How long would gpart take to rescue a lost partition on a 4tb drive?
[11:12] <ikonia> there are multiple options suggested to him
[11:13] <ikonia> some are from the development teams, some from other users
[11:13] <ikonia> most will get you what you want
[11:13] <White_Cat> ikonia I need email accounts for admin tasks too
[11:13] <White_Cat> really pointless
[11:13] <ikonia> White_Cat: not sure what that has to do with anything
[11:13] <clausen_> theadmin, I think I figured it out!  I finally got into the windows "rescue command line", and I can access the EFI system partition
[11:13] <White_Cat> here is the problem
[11:13] <ikonia> White_Cat: you've explained the problems
[11:13] <clausen_> theadmin, it has a file, /efi/boot/bootia32.efi
[11:13] <ikonia> the CRM marks emails as read
[11:13] <ikonia> you don't want it to to
[11:13] <ikonia> there are solutions on the odoo mailing list
[11:13] <clausen_> so it looks like it's a 32-bit boot
[11:14] <clausen_> 32-bit UEFI configuration -- quite exotic
[11:14] <White_Cat> users in this company pay microsoft money to have their email run
[11:14] <Seveas> good thing they do, as they clearly shouldn't be paying you for it :)
[11:14] <White_Cat> I want to have a parallel system to copy their mail so that what they do with their email does not affect the erp system
[11:14] <bekks> White_Cat: How about taking a closer look at the solutions proposed instead of repeating pointless approaches on and on?
[11:15] <ikonia> White_Cat: a mirror mail service is not a solution, it's a bad idea
[11:15] <White_Cat> why is it a bad idea?
[11:15] <ikonia> because it does not fix your problem
[11:15] <ikonia> it makes a mess of your mail setup
[11:15] <White_Cat> why does it not?
[11:15] <ikonia> it does
[11:15] <ikonia> I didn't say it didn't
[11:15] <White_Cat> microsoft mail would simply forward each incoming mail
[11:15] <ikonia> White_Cat: actually do what you want,
[11:15] <bekks> White_Cat: Why dont you want to fix your ERP system instead?
[11:15] <ikonia> White_Cat: you seem to have no idea how to manage the systems and don't want to actually use logical solutions
[11:16] <ikonia> bekks: there are fixes on the mailing lists........
[11:16] <White_Cat> bekks because I need additional email accounts anyways
[11:16] <ikonia> after a month of research.....
[11:16] <notfadssss> anyone available for a moment to help me debugg some issues I am having with initial reboot of ubuntu install?
[11:16] <bekks> ikonia: I know. I found them within minutes, didnt need a month.
[11:16] <nbusrone> hi , I am using smplayer but when playing a video recording using an android phone it get fastforward but the sound was fine.Using VLC works well. Anyone know the reason behind ?
[11:16] <bekks> White_Cat: Additional emails accounts have entirely nothing to do with mirroring mails.
[11:16] <ikonia> they would just be more to mirror
[11:16] <White_Cat> indeed
[11:16] <White_Cat> its two seperate issues
[11:17] <ikonia> which as mirroring is a pointless task, you're making more work for yourself
[11:17] <White_Cat> ikonia you know nothing of my implementation
[11:17] <clausen_> theadmin, there are some webpages saying Ubuntu doesn't support ia32 EFI...
[11:17] <Seveas> notfadssss: what are the issues?
[11:17] <ikonia> White_Cat: only what you explain
[11:17] <clausen_> theadmin, I guess I will have to submit a patch...
[11:17] <White_Cat> I cant explain you all the details
[11:17] <ikonia> White_Cat: and you lack of understanding yourself, so I'm making a few assumptions
[11:17] <schub> :-)
[11:17] <notfadssss> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/ <---- I install ubunutu Lamps, initial restart brings back a black screen
[11:17] <White_Cat> you have been making assumptions the second I started explanning myself
[11:18] <White_Cat> it was quite a hastle to deal with that
[11:18] <ikonia> White_Cat: not at all, I've been using the info you provided over the last few days
[11:18] <Seveas> notfadssss: what is ubuntu lamps?
[11:18] <White_Cat> ikonia, if it is all the same to you I really do not want your help. I end up frustrating you and you end up frustrating me.
[11:18] <Seveas> ikonia: he's been here for days? :/
[11:18] <White_Cat> yes i have
[11:18] <ikonia> White_Cat: you're not frustrating me
[11:18] <notfadssss> Seveas: Ubuntu server
[11:19] <ikonia> Seveas: yeah, trying to do virutal users etc etc
[11:19] <Seveas> ugh
[11:19] <Dat> is there anyway to check the progress of a gpart scan?
[11:19] <ikonia> White_Cat: you admitted earlier you don't know any mail server technology (which is fine - no issue with that) so would it not be wise to actually try to take advice from people who do know mail server technology ?
[11:19] <Seveas> White_Cat: hire an actual sysadmin please. You're doing your users/employer a major disservice by relying on internet volunteers whom you don't seem to get along with.
[11:19] <White_Cat> All I need is a mail server that supports POP and/or IMAP with non-unix (virtual) users.
[11:20] <ikonia> White_Cat: yeah, you where told how to do that yesterday
[11:20] <Seveas> White_Cat: postfix + cyrus. Now go read documentation.
[11:20] <Dat> White_Cat: postfix
[11:20] <ikonia> White_Cat: now you have a problem with your CRM - which you've been told how to fix, and ignored
[11:20] <White_Cat> I tried configuring postfix and it cant even connect
[11:20] <ikonia> White_Cat: now you want to mirror emails - which unless you need complience (which a postfix mirror is not a good solution for) is not a good way
[11:20] <bekks> I guess I can safely rest this case and deal with more interesting topics.
[11:20] <nbusrone> hi , I am using smplayer but when playing a video recording using an android phone it get fastforward but the sound was fine.Using VLC works well. Anyone know the reason behind ?
[11:20] <Seveas> bekks: yeah :/
[11:21] <White_Cat> complience?
[11:21] <ikonia> White_Cat: seriously, try to actually understand, people are not saying "don't do this" for fun, they are trying to stop you make a bad choice/mess
[11:21] <White_Cat> I setup mail forwarding before
[11:21] <Seveas> nbusrone: I have that from time to time as well. Not sure why, but I'm guessing there are some odd values in the avi container. If lc works, just use vlc :)
[11:21] <bekks> Which you dont need for your ERP.
[11:21] <White_Cat> I am told to do it
[11:21] <Dat> i had two postfix servers mirroring each other
[11:21] <bekks> BY whom?
[11:21] <Dat> it was pita to setup
[11:21] <White_Cat> why do you care
[11:21] <Dat> and hard to maintain
[11:22] <ikonia> White_Cat: understanding your requirements, thats why
[11:22] <bekks> White_Cat: I dont care about that issue anymore, dont worry.
[11:22] <White_Cat> please entertain yourself with someone else
[11:22] <Seveas> Dat: why were you doing mirroring at the postfic layer?
[11:22] <ikonia> White_Cat: the question is do you have a technical reason for this, or a managment pressure for this ?
[11:22] <Seveas> I do that at the mailstore layer, delivering to two mailstores
[11:22] <nbusrone> Seveas : i tried reinstalling but it still having fast forward
[11:22] <White_Cat> ikonia a bit of both
[11:22] <Seveas> nbusrone: reinstalling won't help :)
[11:22] <ikonia> White_Cat: whats the technical reason as that part you don't seem to explain
[11:22] <ikonia> other than "I want it"
[11:22] <ikonia> or "I need it"
[11:23] <White_Cat> Look
[11:23] <Dat> Seveas: i was using dovecot sync
[11:23] <Seveas> Dat: eww. That failed miserably for me at the time
[11:23] <White_Cat> say I have 10 users with emails. I need 5 more "group" email accounts that will primarily send email
[11:23] <Dat> Seveas: i got it to work but it was just a pain
[11:23] <Seveas> notfadssss: I looked at your pastebin thing and am afrain I can't help, sorry :(
[11:23] <White_Cat> I do not want to use microsoft for those 5 "group" emails
[11:23] <Dat> I even had to write a script to fix duplicate emails
[11:24] <Dat> :(
[11:24] <White_Cat> its half the reason why I need a mail server
[11:24] <ikonia> hang on White_Cat are you also the user darknet
[11:24] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[11:24] <ikonia> he had exactly the same requirement a few weeks ago
[11:24] <Seveas> hi totesmuhgoats
[11:24] <notfadssss> seveas: thank you for trying, I think it has something to do with raid1 configure ;\
[11:24] <ikonia> is this the same situation ?
[11:24] <White_Cat> ikonia I am not on the odoo forums
[11:25] <ikonia> White_Cat: I meant IRC user Darknet
[11:25] <White_Cat> this isnt an odoo problem
[11:25] <ikonia> he had the same issue, are you the same guy ?
[11:25] <Dat> hrmm i have no idea if my gpart is hung or not I should have done this via command line
[11:25] <White_Cat> ikonia, I dont think so
[11:25] <ikonia> ah, never mind,
[11:25] <Seveas> White_Cat: no, it's a problem of you refusing to learn to do your job. If you find postfix hard, you shouldn't be a linux admin.
[11:25] <White_Cat> I am not a linux admin
[11:25] <Dat> lol
[11:25] <Seveas> then tell your linux admin to set this up
[11:25] <White_Cat> I am not pretending to be one
[11:25] <White_Cat> I lack that
[11:25] <ikonia> White_Cat: who looks after you linux systems ?
[11:26] <Seveas> then hire one, clearly you don't know what you're doing.
[11:26] <totesmuhgoats> i am doing some troubleshooting and i booted into an older kernel than the most recent installed one, the problem is that the nvidia (proprietary) driver does not load for this kernel does not seem to exist in the system for this older kernel, how can I make the driver re-build itself for all the installed kernel versions?
[11:26] <White_Cat> that unfortunate job is mine unfortunately
[11:26] <White_Cat> I dont have the resources I need
[11:26] <ikonia> White_Cat: it would seem not, sorry you're in that situation
[11:26] <ikonia> White_Cat: but based on that situation, would it not be wise to listen to the people who can help you ?
[11:26] <nbusrone> Seveas: Anyway found a fix http://tuxdiary.com/2014/03/06/mplayer-plays-mp4-video-too-fast/ thank you for the reply :D
[11:26] <White_Cat> I understand odoo aspect of things
[11:27] <ikonia> you don't
[11:27] <ikonia> as you just said "you can't fix it"
[11:27] <Seveas> nbusrone: rock on, thanks for sharing!
[11:27] <ikonia> when there are multiple fixes for it
[11:27] <White_Cat> ikonia fixing it causes different problems
[11:27] <ikonia> White_Cat: so ? you still say "I know it" - but also "I can't fix it"
[11:27] <nbusrone> Seveas: you are welcome :)
[11:27] <White_Cat> ikonia can you stop it please
[11:28] <ikonia> White_Cat: then follow the advice
[11:28] <ikonia> deal with one issue at a time
[11:28] <ikonia> clouding it into a big jumble doesn't help you move it forward
[11:28] <Seveas> ikonia: /nick sisyphus :)
[11:29] <Dat> damnit gparted just died in the rescue
[11:29] <Dat> ;/
[11:29] <Dat> another 20hours :(
[11:29] <Seveas> Dat: time to restore from backups?
[11:29] <White_Cat> ikonia your advice is fix a system that isnt the problem
[11:29] <Dat> not for this drive
[11:30] <Dat> no backups where taken
[11:30] <ikonia> White_Cat: it is the problem based on the issues you've reported
[11:30] <White_Cat> I must have a mail server to gain the extra emails I need
[11:30] <White_Cat> I have spent 3 days reading documentaiton on postfix and the end result is I cannot connect to it
[11:30] <ikonia> White_Cat: splitting the mail service into one handled by microsoft / you locally is not a good solution
[11:30] <ikonia> it's quite bad
[11:30] <notfadssss> if anyone has any experience with raid 1 ubuntu server install some help would be appriciated ><' initial reboot leads to a black screen
[11:30] <bekks> White_Cat: "odoo mark mails and should not do it" "thats the issue, fix it" "no, it is not the issue".
[11:30] <ikonia> White_Cat: if you cannot run a mail server - I strongly advise you not to
[11:30] <ikonia> White_Cat: hire someone
[11:30] <White_Cat> ikonia I am not doing what you suggested
[11:31] <White_Cat> erp.foo.bar and foo.bar will be seperate domains
[11:31] <White_Cat> *seperate ips
[11:31] <ikonia> White_Cat: right, but the DNS for foo.bar and MX record will be controlled by the same ISP
[11:31] <White_Cat> yes
[11:31] <White_Cat> no problem with that
[11:31] <ikonia> you will end up with serious mail routing problems unless you are not very careful and know what you are doing
[11:31] <White_Cat> erp.foo.bar would have a different ip
[11:31] <ikonia> the logical step would be to add the 5 extra mail accounts to the microsoft hosted soution
[11:32] <ikonia> solution
[11:32] <White_Cat> it isnt a solution
[11:32] <White_Cat> thats too slow
[11:32] <ikonia> it is not too slow
[11:32] <ikonia> it takes seconds
[11:32] <White_Cat> large attachments would take forever to download
[11:32] <ikonia> and if you've been doing this for 3 months.....
[11:32] <White_Cat> multiple times
[11:32] <ikonia> this is getting into a fantasy problem area rather than a real life issue
[11:33] <ikonia> forwarding mail to a subdomain to stop download times for 5 people....
[11:35] <hojo> hello. i am having problems after trying to install ati proprietary drivers to ubuntu 14.04.1. I uninstalled all ati drivers and removed xorg.conf files but i still cant access the GUI. Just a black screen after loading ubuntu. I can access tty1 though. any ideas anyone?
[11:37] <hojo> trying to open any programs that operate in the graphical environment, i get "cannot open display" message
[11:37] <g0th> hi
[11:37] <g0th> hi
[11:37] <g0th> hi
[11:38] <g0th> hw do I mount a cifs share from a NAS such that the permissions are correctly set?
[11:38] <g0th> at the moment everything basically has all permissions
[11:39] <bekks> g0th: Whats the issue then?
[11:41] <g0th> well I would like them to ave specific permissions
[11:41] <g0th> previously I used sec=ntlm,nounix
[11:41] <g0th> for my ready nas
[11:41] <g0th> now I have a synology and if I mount like that
[11:41] <g0th> everything is totally f* up
[11:42] <bekks> Can you be more specific and use a clean language please?
[11:42] <g0th> for instance if I do "ls" in the mounted directory with "sec=ntlm,nounix" it lists all files recursively
[11:42] <bekks> What exactly is the problem when doing what exactly, in detail?
[11:42] <g0th> I used clean language :)
[11:42] <raj_> yes
[11:43] <g0th> when I mount the cifs share with sec=ntlm,nounix the whole filesystem behave strangely
[11:43] <bekks> g0th: Why are you using sec=ntlm and nounix?
[11:43] <raj_> hey can anybody help me update kernel to 3.19
[11:43] <g0th> because that seems to be the only way to mount the files with proper permissions
[11:43] <g0th> how do you guys mount cifs volumes?
[11:44] <g0th> the settings worked perfectly with my readynas
[11:44] <g0th> but with the synology one it doesnt work
[11:44] <raj_> how to turn off write protection
[11:44] <clausen_> theadmin, I create a new ubuntuforums thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2258379&p=13195099#post13195099
[11:45] <clausen_> theadmin, does this look helpful?
[11:45] <bekks> g0th: like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[11:46] <clausen_> it's my first ubuntuforums.org post -- does it look useful?
[11:47] <g0th> bekks: yes, that's not working properly
[11:47] <g0th> the files have the wrong permissions
[11:48] <bekks> g0th: Define "properly" and "wrong permissions" in detail please.
[11:48] <g0th> the permissions should be 0664 for files and 0775 for directories
[11:48] <g0th> with proper uid and gid
[11:48] <bekks> g0th: CIFS doesnt support linux permissions.
[11:49] <g0th> I think it does
[11:49] <g0th> there is an extension
[11:49] <bekks> g0th: Then you are using a different CIFS implementation than the entire linux world.
[11:49] <g0th> I just want to mount it with those permissions on my system
[11:49] <g0th> no I am nt
[11:49] <g0th> it is well known
[11:49] <g0th> it's supposed to work with "nounix"
[11:50] <g0th> how do you mount cifs shares?
[11:50] <bekks> I just told you.
[11:50] <g0th> so all your cifs shares just have all permissions?
[11:50] <bekks> Yes, because CIFS does not support linux permissions.
[11:51] <g0th> anyone else who has more experience wth the cifs unix extension?
[11:51] <bekks> All you can do is map a user as described in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently#Special_permissions
[11:52] <EREVAN> hi there, who can tell me, what is ~# symbols mean in terminal
[11:52] <g0th> bekks: so how do you prevent normal users from just overwriting everything?
[11:52] <bekks> g0th: BY setting proper filesystem permissions on the filesystem, not on the share.
[11:52] <g0th> ok, how to do that?
[11:53] <k1l_> EREVAN: its the prompt. ~ stands for  "/home/user/" where user is your username
[11:53] <g0th> btw
[11:53] <g0th> I was always asking about the filesystem permissions not the share
[11:53] <bekks> g0th: That depends on the system providing the sahre.
[11:53] <bekks> *share
[11:53] <EREVAN> k1l_ thanks
[11:53] <g0th> it's a synology nas
[11:53] <g0th> the client is an ubuntu system
[11:53] <bekks> g0th: You were always asking about CIFS, whihc is a filesharing mechanism. You cannot format a partition as "CIFS".
[11:53] <k1l_> EREVAN: but # seems to be a root shell.
[11:54] <g0th> bekks: of course not
[11:54] <g0th> bekks: but you can mount it with the appropriate permissions
[11:54] <g0th> or you should be able to
[11:54] <EREVAN> k1l_ OK
[11:54] <bekks> g0th: You cant, and the link given even states the same.
[11:56] <g0th> bekks: you are incorrect
[11:56] <g0th> bekks: it should work but it doesn't
[11:56] <g0th> there is some bug
[11:56] <g0th> you're supposed to be able to set the permissions wth file_mode and dir_mode
[11:56] <g0th> either with nounix or without
[11:57] <g0th> but neither of them works properly
[11:57] <g0th> unfortunately
[11:57] <bekks> g0th: But you cant set different users/groups, and different permissions on different files.
[11:57] <bekks> Thats what I am telling you all the time.
[11:57] <g0th> that's fine
[11:57] <bekks> You didnt even read the link given, as it seems.
[11:57] <g0th> but at least not 777 permissions
[11:57] <g0th> I did
[11:58] <g0th> look it seems you can't help me, you don't even seem to know the interactions with unix extensions and cifs
[11:58] <g0th> anyway
[11:58] <g0th> anyone else maybe?
[11:58] <bazhang> g0th, read the links provided
[11:58] <g0th> I'll read it again for the third time, fine
[11:59] <notfadssss> if anyone has any experience with raid 1 ubuntu server install some help would be appriciated ><' initial reboot leads to a black screen
[11:59] <bekks> g0th: Good luck, if you are not accepting technical facts.
[11:59] <notfadssss> I have a boot log report if wanted ;\ cannot seem to get grub up
[12:02] <g0th> bekks: you are not
[12:02] <g0th> read your own article
[12:02] <g0th> it specifically mentions my solution with file_mode and dir_mode
[12:02] <g0th> which is not working properly (which is what this whole discussion was about to begin with)
[12:03] <g0th> it seems to be a bug on the synology nas
[12:03] <g0th> (when using nounix)
[12:06] <bazhang> try #synology g0th
[12:06] <g0th> ok thanks
[12:07] <bazhang> np
[12:10] <notfadssss> if someone can help with my ubunutu install issues  I will paypal them '_'
[12:11] <k1l_> notfadssss: give more informations about ubuntu version, hardware controller etc.
[12:11] <bazhang> try #ubuntu-server
[12:12] <brunoescola> Hi. Good Morning.
[12:12] <notfadssss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/ <---- I install ubunutu Lamps, initial restart brings back a black scree
[12:13] <Lexie> Hi
[12:13] <alex_> hi
[12:14] <alfelisi22> hi
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | notfadssss
[12:20] <g0th> bazhang: #synology seems to be "dead/silent"
[12:46] <notfadssss> if anyone can help me solve my initial reboot issues with my server I will paypal them or bitcoin them - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/
[12:46] <g0th> I don't get nfs, all the security is through the ip address?
[12:46] <g0th> does that make any sense?
[12:46] <g0th> can't someone just take over the ip?
[12:47] <the_tricky> hello guys
[12:47] <the_tricky> i know, this is kind of specific question
[12:48] <the_tricky> but does anyone know if it is possible to disable the floating skype window in ubuntu?
[12:48] <the_tricky> haven't found a better channel for the question
[12:48] <the_tricky> sorry in advance
[12:50] <g0th> well nfs is not acceptable that way
[12:50] <g0th> and I'm back to my original problem
[12:51] <khurram1> i am unable to shut down my laptop it freezes in between i have all the boot info in the following link http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629567/
[12:51] <bekks> g0th: Using NFS3, there is no access control, using NFS4, there is kerberos.
[12:52] <daytan> ciao
[12:52] <daytan> !list
[12:52] <g0th> oh, ok I'll try again with nfsv4
[12:52] <Seveas> g0th: nfs is meant to be used in networks where all devices are trusted. It was developed in a time that that made sense, and in many environments it still does.
[12:52] <Seveas> (e.g. in our datacenter, NFS is just fine. In offices much less so)
[12:52] <bekks> porkys is spamming in pm.
[12:53] <Seveas> bekks: tell #ubuntu-ops :)
[12:54] <Seveas> khurram1: try triggering a shut down from a vt (switch to it with alt+f1, then log in, then do sudo shutdown -h now), it may give you more details.
[12:55] <g0th> I would really really prefer cifs shares
[12:55] <g0th> but they don't work :(
[12:55] <g0th> somehow the permissions are messed up :(
[12:55] <Seveas> g0th: you'll need to tell samba how to map users, that can be a b*tch.
[12:56] <g0th> when I use "nounix" it lists all files and directories recursively
[12:56] <g0th> e.g. "\test\mytestfile.cpp" "\test" ec
[12:56] <g0th> etc*
[12:56] <g0th> basically it creates a windows style - named file at the root level of the filesystem for every file in all directories
[12:57] <g0th> and without nounix I never ever got permissions to work / show something besides 777 permissions
[13:01] <g0th> how do I prevent normal users from acessing my mounted cifs share?
[13:01] <g0th> there must be some way
[13:01] <g0th> hmm, I could maybe create a folder on top with appropriate permissions, that way users shouldn't be able to access subfolders?
[13:01] <g0th> ideally I would like to map the permissions
[13:01] <g0th> it's really really annoying
[13:13] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[13:13] <cfhowlett> BlueShark, yowza
[13:17] <Seveas> cfhowlett: the perils of <tab> trap you again :-)
[13:18] <cfhowlett> Seveas, yep
[13:18] <netcrash> Hello, how can I make the resize shortcut from xubuntu(ALT+right click+drag window) work in ubuntu?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !ops | spam via PM from porkys:  <porkys> show gratis (solo hooy) --> http://s422803032.mialojamiento.es/
[13:19] <maxwell_> hi
[13:20] <maxwell_> I get this error when compiling InspIRCd: fatal error: tds.h: No such file or directory
[13:22] <alfagt1989> ciao!
[13:22] <alfagt1989> !ciao
[13:24] <Seveas> maxwell_: why are you compiling it instead of installing it from the repos?
[13:25] <notfadssss> if anyone can help me solve my initial reboot issues with my server I will paypal them or bitcoin them - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/
[13:26] <alfagt1989> !list
[13:26] <alfagt1989> list!
[13:26] <anonymous__> salut
[13:26] <alfagt1989> ciao
[13:26] <alfagt1989> list!
[13:26] <Seveas> alfagt1989: do you have any Ubuntu support questions?
[13:27] <anonymous__> e cineva roman de aici?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !it | anonymous__
[13:27] <alfagt1989> ciaooooooooooooooooo
[13:27] <alfagt1989> !it
[13:27] <cfhowlett> alfagt1989, no.  no warez.
[13:27] <alfagt1989> !list
[13:27]  * cfhowlett begins writing a python *smite* script ...
[13:28] <anonymous__> am mare nevoie de ajutor
[13:28] <cfhowlett> anonymous__, english.  ENGLISH please.
[13:28] <anonymous__> welcome
[13:29] <popey> !ro | anonymous__
[13:31] <giuseppe_> list
[13:34] <maxwell_> Seveas,  I am compiling it cause I need extra mods
[13:35] <Seveas> maxwell_: ok. To install everything that's needed to compile it, you can use 'apt-get build-depends'
[13:35] <maxwell_> I also wans to change the code later on
[13:35] <Seveas> sudo apt-get build-depends inspircd
[13:35] <anonymous__> salut
[13:36] <pupil> good evening
[13:36] <maxwell_> its build-dep not build-depends
[13:36] <anonymous__> e cinva roman
[13:36] <anonymous__> cineva*
[13:36] <giuseppe_> channel
[13:37] <jinta> hello
[13:37] <giuseppe_> hello
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !it | giuseppe_,
[13:37] <jinta> can you speak chinese?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !cn | jinta,
[13:38] <jinta> 这有人没
[13:38] <jinta> 我了个去，竟然能用中文
[13:38] <anonymous__> salut
[13:38] <gaetano> susy-1
[13:38] <cfhowlett> jinta go to !ubuntu-cn
[13:38] <cfhowlett> anonymous__, english.
[13:39] <jinta> salut
[13:39] <anonymous__> salut
[13:39] <jinta> susy -l
[13:39] <anonymous__> jinta hai pe privat
[13:39] <jinta> 啥意思啊？
[13:45] <aeoril> Using filezilla, I can connect to my sftp server using my ssh username/secret key that secures the ssh file.  How is that any more secure than simple username/password authentication?  I have not entered my private keys into filezilla, however, I have managed my keys with PuTTY.  Is filezilla accessing my keys somehow from PuTTY?
[13:47] <khurram1> i am unable to shut down my laptop it freezes in between i have all the boot info in the following link http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629567/
[13:47] <michaelk> Hello... If anybody was here last night with me. It seems the answer to my problem i
[13:48] <michaelk> is to create a windows 8.1 usb recovery media and fix windows bootloader
[13:48] <khurram1> anyone havin any answer to my problem?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> khurram1, event logs will tell more than basic boot info
[13:49] <michaelk> khurram1 This is your GRUB file?
[13:49] <michaelk> that you pastebined
[13:50] <khurram1> its what i got from boot repair
[13:51] <khurram1> how can i get my event log to you guys so that you can help me ?
[13:53] <khurram1> i am unable to shut down my laptop it freezes in between i have all the boot info in the following link http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629567/
[13:53] <Ben64> !patience | khurram1
[13:53] <michaelk> It might be in a log folder somewhere but I'm not to sure about that try like /dev etc
[13:54] <michaelk> also cntrl+h for hidden folders :)
[13:56] <notfadssss> if anyone can help me solve my initial reboot issues with my server I will paypal them or bitcoin them - http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629215/
[13:58] <khurram1> i am unable to shut down my laptop it freezes in between i have all the boot info in the following link http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629567/
[13:58] <Seveas> !repeat | notfadssss, khurram1
[13:59] <Seveas> khurram1: did rebooting from a vt like I suggested show anything useful?
[13:59] <EriC^_> khurram1: that's the boot-repair info, it's quite irrelevant for the most part, please pastebin tail -n100 /var/log/syslog
[13:59] <khurram1> nops
[13:59] <EriC^_> khurram1: also next time you shutdown press esc to see where it is hanging at
[14:01] <khurram1> Dec 27 01:34:51 teasers rtkit-daemon[1900]: Successfully made thread 6234 of process 6234 (n/a) owned by '1000' RT at priority 3. Dec 27 01:34:51 teasers rtkit-daemon[1900]: Supervising 4 threads of 2 processes of 1 users. Dec 27 01:35:07 teasers avahi-daemon[869]: Withdrawing address record for fe80::c218:85ff:fe33:9065 on wlan1. Dec 27 01:35:07 teasers avahi-daemon[869]: Withdrawing workstation service for wlan1. Dec 27 01:35:07 t
[14:01] <EriC^_> !paste | kur
[14:04] <khurram1> here is my system log info http://paste.ubuntu.com/9629838/
[14:06] <khurram1> eric was it helpful in diagnosing the problem?
[14:08] <Seveas> khurram1: no :(
[14:08] <Seveas> when's the last time you tried a reboot?
[14:09] <khurram1> i guess its a hardware issue then :!
[14:09] <EriC^_> khurram1: try to reboot and press esc
[14:09] <khurram1> crap
[14:09] <khurram1> okay
[14:09] <Seveas> khurram1: try shutdown from a vt again. When it 'hangs', switch to a second vt with alt+f2. If you can log in there still, execute this command: ps auxf > ps.txt
[14:09] <EriC^_> it will list what it's doing, take a screenshot of what it's hanging at
[14:09] <EriC^_> or any errors
[14:09] <Seveas> and when you've started up again, pastebin ps.txt
[14:29] <Quitta> Hi Im having a question, my ubuntu partition of the HD died, im able to access the contents with a live cd however. Now Im trying to get into my postgresql database in order to copy a table to my new laptop
[14:29] <Quitta> Does someone know how I could do this?
[14:32] <oldster> just started using ubuntu mate
[14:33] <oldster> any tips for brightening up the desktop?
[14:34] <oldster> oh well bye!
[14:39] <compengi> Hello, I booted to the ubuntu 14.01 live cd and I'm trying to mount a usb drive ext3 and ext4 partitions, but the auto mount mounts the disks as root, why is that? I want to read/write to them.
[14:39] <BluesKaj_> Quitta, you could try the terminal on a live media device, dd if=/dev/sdx of=/dev/sdy , where if=inputfile and of=outpufile and x and y are the source and target partitions
[14:40] <EriC^_> compengi: the perms stay the same when you mount them
[14:40] <Quitta> BluesKaj_: I was thinking about simply copying the database files, I wasnt sure if thats actually possible
[14:40] <compengi> EriC^_: It's a fresh formated drive with gparted
[14:42] <compengi> EriC^_: Do you mean it's fine to use root permissions to move files?
[14:42] <EriC^_> compengi: ok, it should mount it under /media/<your username>/<UUID>
[14:42] <compengi> EriC^_: I see
[14:42] <EriC^_> compengi: i meant if it's ext fs then it will be mounted with the perms of the files, you can't change that
[14:42] <BluesKaj_> Quitta, yes as long as you use the /dev/sdx/pathtodatbasefile  and same for dev/sdy/pathtotargetfile
[14:43] <EriC^_> compengi: you can change the parent dir's permissions, depends where you are mounting it
[14:43] <EriC^_> then you can read/write/exec with another user
[14:44] <eli77> !<factoid>
[14:45] <Quitta> BluesKaj_: I will give that a try first then
[14:46] <BluesKaj_> Quitta, it has worked for me as long as the if=inputfile is accessible
[14:46] <compengi> EriC^_: It's a live cd so it is actually mounting it to /media/ubuntu/<UUID> directory, but I still can't write to the disc
[14:47] <eli77> what is ubottu?
[14:48] <BluesKaj_> !ubottu
[14:49] <compengi> EriC^_: I could change the dir's permission to ubuntu:ubuntu
[14:49] <EriC^_> compengi: ok
[14:54] <uschxc> ubuntu 14.04, recently uninstalled "deluge" however I get system crashe GUI warning at startup about "deluge" not running.  I've checked upstart and .config/autostart, doesn't seem to be launching from there.  Any suggestions on where this is hiding?
[14:54] <Zebbi_> Hi
[14:54] <Zebbi_> Can u help me guys?
[14:55] <uschxc> Depends, obviously
[14:55] <Zebbi_>  ftp://192.168.1.128/
[14:55] <Zebbi_> It works
[14:55] <uschxc> cool glad to have helped.
[14:55] <Zebbi_> im creating a ftp server but only works in my LAN
[14:55] <Zebbi_> not external
[14:55] <uschxc> create a firewall rule
[14:56] <Zebbi_> Im working with Windows
[14:56] <Zebbi_> the people from #windows dont help me
[14:56] <uschxc> ok, you still need a firewall rule
[14:56] <uschxc> this is not an Operating System issue, so it really has no business in Windows or Ubuntu.
[14:57] <uschxc> Its an application/firewall port issue
[14:57] <uschxc> http://www.ncftp.com/ncftpd/doc/misc/ftp_and_firewalls.html
[14:58] <Zebbi_> ok ty
[14:58] <Zebbi_> im gonna craate the rule
[14:58] <Zebbi_> lets see
[15:00] <uschxc> for what its worth, you should stop using FTP right now.  This isn't 1981.  Use SFTP
[15:00] <Zebbi_> men
[15:00] <Zebbi_> can u give me a nice tutorial for install a server sftp
[15:00] <Zebbi_> in windows
[15:00] <Zebbi_> please
[15:02] <uschxc> no.  You obviously need to practice your google-fu
[15:03] <llutz> !ot | Zebbi_
[15:03] <Zebbi_> filezilla is a good software to create a ftp server?
[15:03] <uschxc> http://bit.ly/1xondME
[15:05] <superstraw> I have bridged two nics together, but I do not want the second interface to have an address of 10.42.0.1.  where/what config do I edit to change this?
[15:05] <aryo> helo, I tried installing a package with qapt, but getting error "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[15:06] <aryo> according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/103350/how-can-i-provide-proper-authorization-to-the-kde-software-updates-program I have to install polkit-kde-1, but I have had it
[15:06] <uschxc> use "sudo" aryo
[15:06] <uschxc> "sudo apt-get" or whatever
[15:07] <uschxc> superstraw, you want to bridge two NICs but you do not want them to have the same IP?  thats kind of what bridging NICs does
[15:07] <superstraw> I mean, one nic is 192.168.1.*, the other defaults to 10.42.0.1.  I would like the second one to be 192.168.200.1 instead.
[15:08] <BluesKaj_> superstraw, the 192 IP is most likely your router
[15:08] <aryo> uschxc: I want to test debconf-kde gui
[15:08] <uschxc> ok.  install your app with root priviledges via sudo
[15:09] <aryo> uschxc: it's just the same. the error persists
[15:09] <aryo> I've disabled KDE feature but I forgot which one
[15:09] <superstraw> 192.168.1.100 is my computer's #1 nic, 192.168.1.1 is router, 10.42.0.1 is computers #2 nic.
[15:10] <superstraw> I would like #2 to be 192.168.100.1
[15:10] <uschxc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/103350/how-can-i-provide-proper-authorization-to-the-kde-software-updates-program
[15:10] <uschxc> check that out aryo
[15:10] <superstraw> Thinking I have to fudge with the network manager...
[15:10] <superstraw> and I think my google searching if finally bringing something up on it... I'll report back if successful.
[15:16] <aryo> uschxc: I've attach that link before
[15:19] <eli77> how can I find channel about clash of clans?
[15:20] <Nathan__> hello
[15:20] <uschxc> google it eli77
[15:20] <uschxc> don't be surprised if google tells you to get a life :)
[15:21] <eli77> how?
[15:21] <eli77> what should I type?
[15:23] <llutz> !alis | eli77
[15:24] <superstraw> eli77: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=clash+of+clans
[15:24] <uschxc> eli77 seriously???  http://bit.ly/1xopFCT
[15:25] <eli77> ok I got it
[15:34] <pirat3d> hi
[15:47] <ubuntu668> Hello there. I am currently working on fixing the wifi adapter for my ubuntu computer. I have gotten it working, however every time i restart the computer, i have to go through the "Make" "Make install" and "Modprobe". I have attempted to add the mod to modules, however it does not appear to be working. Any ideas?
[15:49] <tnkhanh> anyone use guake terminal?
[15:50] <tnkhanh> happy new year guys!
[16:07] <JackelopeKing> hello... I'm working on trying to get my ethernet connection working again and am having trouble
[16:08] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: how did you break it?
[16:18] <JackelopeKing> Hello. I am trying to fix my Ethernet connection on Ubuntu 14.10.
[16:20] <shuman> JackelopeKing: if you don't describe what the problem is, the how can anyone help?
[16:20] <cfhowlett> !details | JackelopeKing
[16:21] <JackelopeKing> Shuman: thank you. Ethernet tries to connect but hangs on "connecting" endlessly
[16:21] <JackelopeKing> I swapped out my 12 year old Ethernet card thinking that was the issue with no luck.
[16:22] <JackelopeKing> I also attempted to set up a static ip without success.
[16:23] <JackelopeKing> I can still connect via wifi without issue but my Ethernet cable establish a network connection.
[16:24] <JackelopeKing> What other information can i provide?
[16:29] <groovedrum> hello
[16:34] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: pastebin the output of 'ifconfig -a' please.
[16:34] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: thank you. One moment.
[16:36] <JackelopeKing> http://pastebin.com/shXk1HtT
[16:37] <m1dnight_> guys, is it possible to navigate through a tarball and extract a single subdirectory of that tarball to a location from the cli?
[16:39] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: according to that, you have two ethernet connections. It looks like eth0 has never been used, but eth1 is the one you're trying to use. Is this correct?
[16:40] <locutus1> hey guys.  back.  so I am trying to reinstall 14.04 and it is failing at the grub installation every time
[16:40] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: that is correct. eth0 is a non functional Ethernet port on my mobo
[16:40] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: ok, pastebin the output of 'sudo ethtool eth0' please
[16:40] <Seveas> err, eth1
[16:40]  * Seveas slaps self
[16:41] <locutus1> the specific error is "unable to install grub in /dev/sda: executing 'grub-install /dev/sda failed' this is a fatal error"
[16:41] <locutus1> that's all I get
[16:41] <locutus1> and I think I just found out why
[16:41] <locutus1> is there any way I can point the grub install at a different disk?
[16:42] <locutus1> it should be installing to /dev/sdb, not /dev/sda
[16:42] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/EG0sW0GL
[16:42] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: ok, that says at least the cable is plugged in correctly. Is DHCP supposed to work on your network?
[16:43] <cfhowlett> locutus1, yes.  just select the alternate target and install
[16:43] <Novice201y_> Hi. Easy way to 14.10->15.04?
[16:43] <locutus1> cfhowlett, I don't have an alternate target for the grub install, though.
[16:43] <Novice201y_> (And yes- it's not a production machine)
[16:43] <Seveas> !ubuntu+1 | Novice201y_
[16:43] <locutus1> cfhowlett, doing a minimal install.
[16:43] <teward> Novice201y_: #ubuntu+1 - 15.04 is offtopic here
[16:43] <cfhowlett> Novice201y_, 14.04 isn't even released yet
[16:43] <teward> (because it's not released yet)
[16:43] <teward> cfhowlett: 15.04 is what you meant to type right?
[16:43] <cfhowlett> locutus1, should still be possible
[16:44] <Seveas> Novice201y_: but sudo do-release-upgrade -c -d should get you there. Further support only in the +1 channel :)
[16:44] <cfhowlett> teward, doh!  yep
[16:44] <locutus1> cfhowlett, how can one do it? :)  it doesn't provide me with an option as for where to install it :D
[16:44] <cfhowlett> locutus1, the grub target selection tool is on the partitioning page
[16:45] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: i believe so but can't be 100% sure. Using a linksys ea3500.
[16:45] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: well, let's find out :) sudo dhclient eth0
[16:45] <Novice201y_> Seveas, Why "-c" and "-d"?
[16:45] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: err, eth1 again.
[16:46] <Seveas> Novice201y_: read the manpage :)
[16:46] <locutus1> cfhowlett, I tell it to use the entire disk, then I select the disk for it to partition (sdb), but it still tries to install grub to sda?
[16:46] <cfhowlett> locutus1, shouldn't do that ... obviously.  sorry, but I don't know why and can't advise.
[16:47] <JackelopeKing> Not getting any output, but also still hanging on "connecting" in the network GUI
[16:47] <Novice201y_> Seveas, There's no man for it.
[16:47] <locutus1> cfhowlett, no worries.  thanks for trying.  I have an idea of how to solve, let me know if this would work.  could I boot to a live cd and then do a grub-install from that?
[16:48] <cfhowlett> !grub | locutus1, yes indeed.
[16:48] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: oh, then there's probably already one running. Make the one from NetworkManager go away by clicking disconnect. Then retry
[16:49] <locutus1> cfhowlett, second question.  is grub necessary on a system that is not dual boot?
[16:49] <NoOova> Hello!
[16:49] <kabar> First time it's solved my problem but My ubuntu 14.04 x64 server again showing below message but this time it's not solve this problem it's still showing:  7 packages can be updated.  7 updates are security updates.  Commands i used:  Step:1 sudo apt-get update  Step:2 sudo apt-get -y upgrade  Step:3 sudo reboot   Please help me to solve this.....
[16:49] <cfhowlett> locutus1, strictly speaking, no.  but you'd have to manually configure which kernel and options to boot each and every time ...
[16:49] <teward> kabar: what did `sudo apt-get -y upgrade` return?
[16:50] <locutus1> cfhowlett, well that doesn't sound like fun :D
[16:50] <teward> kabar: did it return something saying "Some packages have been held" or such?
[16:50] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: disconnected ethernet and still getting no output
[16:50] <cfhowlett> locutus1, it would get tiresome quickly
[16:51] <degenorate> would anybody possibly have time to help me out a little, im learning ubuntu. and i need to give a person a ftp user login that is limited to only one directory. i tried on my own and now i cant even login to the user at all
[16:51] <ragazzi> hei
[16:52] <kabar> teward:  The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded
[16:52] <kabar> it showing above message when i try
[16:52] <teward> kabar: those don't get installed by `upgrade` - you have to explicitly give the instruction to install them.  or use dist-upgrade
[16:53] <locutus1> cfhowlett, alright.  going to try to see if this install succeeds, if it fails I will install without grub then boot to the live cd and try running boot-repair
[16:53] <teward> (sudo apt-get -y dist-upgrade    OR   sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic )
[16:53] <cfhowlett> kabar, agreed with teward.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     tends to solve those things
[16:53] <locutus1> cfhowlett, thanks again
[16:53] <teward> kabar: HOWEVER, that would require a reboot and such.
[16:53] <cfhowlett> locutus1, happy2help
[16:54] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: ps aux | grep dhcl
[16:54] <Seveas> and pastebin the output
[16:56] <xeniphon> Seveas/JackelopeKing:  That dhclient command should probably point to eth1 - it didn't look like eth0 was plugged in.
[16:56] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/MR3X85pb
[16:56] <Seveas> xeniphon: yeah :)
[16:56] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: sudo kill 8995 && sudo dhclient eth1
[16:57] <xeniphon> Seveas/JackelopeKing:   sudo dhclient eth1
[16:58] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: followed commands above, still no output.
[16:59] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: oh bugger. It doesn't output, but sends its messages straight to /var/log/syslog. grep dhclient /var/log/syslog
[17:01] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/r2X9ic7K
[17:03] <locutus1> cfhowlett, looks like boot-repair did it
[17:03] <locutus1> well that was an adventure lol
[17:04] <cfhowlett> locutus1, good work getting it sorted.
[17:04] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: dhcp isn't working on your network. Do you know ip address/netmask/gateway you need to set?
[17:05] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: can i get that from my router's setup page?
[17:05] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: probably. Is the wifi on the same router?
[17:06] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: yes it is.
[17:07] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: i have them up.
[17:07] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: what are they?
[17:08] <JackelopeKing> Ip: 192.168.1.1 / netmask: 255.255.255.0
[17:08] <Seveas> ok, can you ping that ip?
[17:09] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: yes. Working over wifi
[17:10] <peeps[lappy]> how do i set static ip in ubuntu
[17:10] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: ok. Let's set a manual IP and try to ping via the wired: sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.201/24 up
[17:10] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: for eth1 yes?
[17:10] <peeps[lappy]> 14.10
[17:10] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: and then ping -I eth1 192.168.1.1
[17:10] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: yes. Whenever I say eth0, assume I mean eth1 :-)
[17:11] <Seveas> eth0 is just hardwired into my finger memory I guess :-)
[17:11] <xeniphon> Seveas: what happens when Ubuntu has two network interfaces in the same subnet?
[17:12] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: destination host unreachable
[17:12] <Seveas> xeniphon: depends on the routing table
[17:12] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: ok, so it looks like eth1 is physically connected to something that is not your router
[17:13] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: maybe your router has some special interfaces you shouldn't use? or there's a misconfigured switch in the middle?
[17:13] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: i use a power link adapter to connect to the router. One moment.
[17:13] <Seveas> peeps[lappy]: click the network manager icon, select edit connections, edit the wired connection
[17:14] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: try plugging it directly into the router. If that works, the power link adapters are the problem.
[17:14] <frainHereNotHere> I will be seting up mashine in few days, it will be used as web server , game server, mercurial server etc. , fun stuff. So I was wondering which ubuntu version should i put on? ubuntu server?
[17:15] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: the adapter works fine on another device. Let me try swapping them out. One moment please.
[17:15] <Seveas> frainHereNotHere: ubuntu server 14.04
[17:15] <frainHereNotHere> cool, thanks
[17:18] <polpottery> Guys my GUI has just died, how can i fix it? (14.04, Pantheon)
[17:18] <bekks> polpottery: What happened exactly?
[17:19] <Seveas> polpottery: try rebooting.
[17:19] <OerHeks> pantheon is elementary, right?
[17:19] <favourites> i need help
[17:19] <favourites> anyboddy there?
[17:19] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: the router is on the other side of the house so a direct connection is out for the moment I'm afraid. Swapped the physical powerline adapters for the one which has been working with no change
[17:20] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | favourites
[17:21] <favourites> this is my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/565748/using-firefox-developer-edition-as-default-browser-problem haven't been able to understand the answers (absolute newcomer here)
[17:21] <polpottery> bekks: basically all my windows just froze. I can still get updates in terminal, but i can't interact with spotify for example or move the terminal window
[17:21] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: which i think leaves the connection problem somewhere in the physical wiring of the house
[17:21] <polpottery> bekks: probably due to some pantheon bug, i dunno
[17:21] <Seveas> JackelopeKing: I'm afraid that what little information we can get in this situation does point to these adapters being the problem :(
[17:21] <JackelopeKing> Seveas: thank you for your help!
[17:22] <bekks> polpottery: Wjy do you think pantheon is the reason? And what is it?
[17:22] <SchrodingersScat> favourites: idk anything about firefox dev edition, but I know you shouldn't sudo nautilus ever, it would be gksudo nautilus, but even then you should be stopping and asking yourself why you need to do this before proceeding.  Is it a permissions problem?
[17:23] <toptyg> hello all, is it there exist spec of mc ?
[17:23] <polpottery> bekks: it's the GUI for ElementaryOS, and i assume it's to blame because i never have these sorts of issues with Unity for instance
[17:24] <toptyg> How's MC is coping files? which is algorithm use?
[17:24] <toptyg> I have folder 200gb and wonna to copy it on anoter location
[17:25] <Seveas> toptyg: on the same computer? On the same partition/volume perhaps?
[17:25] <toptyg> but some files wile i am copping this folder may be modified
[17:25] <toptyg> ya on the same pc
[17:26] <toptyg> while*
[17:26] <Seveas> toptyg: it will copy the files one by one. If they are modified during the copy, who knows which version is copied...
[17:27] <favourites> http://askubuntu.com/questions/565748/using-firefox-developer-edition-as-default-browser-problem help
[17:27] <toptyg> Seveas: ok .. but coppying proc more then 2h doing..
[17:28] <Seveas> toptyg: yes, that's no surprise.
[17:28] <toptyg> Seveas: no recursion may be in this case ? )
[17:28] <toptyg> loop
[17:29] <polpottery> what's the command to restart a process?
[17:29] <Seveas> not unless you do something really weird creating new files
[17:29] <Seveas> in fact, I can't think of a way to make it to endless loops :)
[17:29] <Seveas> polpottery: there's no such command.
[17:29] <Seveas> polpottery: can you be more specific?
[17:30] <SchrodingersScat> closest I can think of is if it's a service, sudo service foo restart  ???
[17:30] <bekks> polpottery: There is no such command.
[17:30] <polpottery> Seveas: so i installed the elementaryos GUI (as far as i understand it), which replaces unity with Pantheon. Pantheon seems quite buggy, and just now all my windows have basdically become unclickable (although i can type in terminals)
[17:31] <bekks> !elementaryos | polpottery
[17:31] <bekks> !elementary | polpottery
[17:31] <polpottery> it's inactive, as usual
[17:31] <bekks> Which doesnt make it supported in here.
[17:31] <Seveas> that doesn't make it ok to ask us questions about it.
[17:31] <polpottery> Seveas: this is a general ubuntu question
[17:32] <EriC^_> polpottery: type whereis elementary
[17:32] <Seveas> it's not. It's elementary os, and even something they specifically replaced.
[17:32] <bekks> polpottery: Well, you are not using Ubuntu, but ElementaryOS.
[17:32] <Seveas> so, off you go. Ask someone who knows about it, which is not us :)
[17:32] <polpottery> bekks: no, i'm using ubuntu, just the elementaryOS GUI
[17:33] <EriC^_> polpottery: you used an ubuntu iso to install?
[17:33] <polpottery> yeah
[17:33] <Seveas> polpottery: that's still not supported in here
[17:33] <EriC^_> polpottery: type whereis elementary
[17:34] <EriC^_> polpottery: type apropos elementary
[17:34] <toptyg> Seveas: i am looking on bar and see copping /33/  then /99/ then /06/
[17:34] <EriC^_> apropos elementary | nc termbin.com 9999 and give us the link
[17:34] <Seveas> toptyg: yeah, it doesn't do them in alphabetical or numeric order :)
[17:35] <toptyg> Seveas: ya but its annoying me :)
[17:36] <Seveas> well, tough :)
[17:41] <Encrypt> Hello o/
[17:42] <Seveas> hi
[17:42] <Encrypt> I'm looking for somebody who knows how the "mail icon" in Unity behaves
[17:42] <Encrypt> How to make it change of color exactly
[17:43] <IdleOne> look for the .desktop file
[17:43] <Encrypt> IdleOne, I have tox installed actually
[17:43] <EriC^^> Encrypt: type restart indicator-messages
[17:43] <toptyg> And one's question ..
[17:43] <Encrypt> And once I get a message, the app icon blinks in the dock
[17:43] <toptyg> Hows to create cron job without crontab command ?
[17:43] <Encrypt> But I'd like a better integration and have it change the color of the mail icon
[17:44] <Encrypt> Just exactly as thunderbird / XChat when get a new mail / HL
[17:44] <toptyg> I may create script.. and when i use crontab -l   I may see it
[17:44] <toptyg> but it doesnot work
[17:45] <toptyg> and when i try to run it i se msg that 120 sec inactive task...
[17:45] <Encrypt> IdleOne, EriC^^, Do you know how I could do that?
[17:45] <Encrypt> I saw a StartupNotification option in the .desktop file
[17:45] <IdleOne> I( don't
[17:45] <Encrypt> But I imagine it's not as simple as turning it to "true", right? :p
[17:46] <Encrypt> IdleOne, Ok, thanks anyway :)
[17:46] <kabar> teward: problem is solved now :)
[17:46] <kabar> thank you
[17:47] <kokut> what IRC channel should i go to as a cellphone related question?
[17:47] <toptyg> Seveas: can u help me with cron ?
[17:47] <SchrodingersScat> !touch | kokut
[17:49] <polpottery> What part of ubuntu is responsible for what happens when you alt+tab?
[17:49] <Encrypt> IdleOne, EriC^^, Do you know anybody who would be able to help me?
[17:49] <trism> Encrypt: this is a simple python app that shows how to highlight the envelope and remove it, you need a .desktop file too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9630800/ (this uses test-app.desktop but any desktop file would work if you change the name)
[17:50] <Encrypt> trism, Thanks, I'll have a look
[17:50] <toptyg> Seveas: thanks for advice
[17:50] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: man i didnt mean the ubuntu phone i mean just any cellphone
[17:51] <EriC^^> toptyg: you can do crontab -l > tempcron && echo "* * * * * newcron" >> tempcron && crontab tempcron && rm tempcron
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> !alis | kokut
[18:00] <kokut> SchrodingersScat: man i found no channels
[18:03] <wow> any youtube downloader for ubuntu
[18:03] <wow> ?
[18:03] <wow> any youtube downloader for ubuntu
[18:03] <gr33n7007h> wow, youtube-dl
[18:03] <SchrodingersScat> !info youtube-dl | wow, but you normally need to update it via pip or similar anyway...
[18:04] <Encrypt> Also, that's not that legal
[18:05] <wow> thx
[18:05] <wow> sweet dreams
[18:10] <Guest78725> who  81.177.180.164
[18:21] <aaa801> whats the package that lists what package something you are missing is in when you attempt to use it..
[18:22] <jhutchins> I have a youtube downloader for Firefox.  It updates from the Firefox site directly.
[18:24] <oldster> can't install unetbootin-linux-608
[18:24] <oldster> can anyone help please
[18:24] <trism> aaa801: apt-file ?
[18:25] <aaa801> trism: im after the one that does the automated messages
[18:25] <trism> aaa801: oh command-not-found ?
[18:25] <aaa801> like if you try and run php and its not found it says php can be found in yadayada
[18:25] <aaa801> thats it!
[18:25] <cik> hi
[18:25] <cik> hi
[18:25] <aaa801> thanks
[18:25] <oldster> its a .bin file
[18:27] <oldster> unetbootin-linux-608.bin
[18:28] <oldster> made it executable via permissions
[18:28] <oldster> and then ./unetbootin-linux-608
[18:28] <oldster> and nothing?
[18:30] <oldster> cheers!
[18:30] <OerHeks> oldster, why that hard way? sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[18:31] <oldster> just wanted latest version of unetbootin
[18:31] <oldster> shall try synaptic version
[18:31] <gr33n7007h> oldster, try sudo ./untenbootin-linux-608
[18:32] <oldster> thanks OerHeks
[18:34] <def_> Hi, Can I use gtk2 themes on 14.4.1?
[18:46] <tnkhanh> I just lost the whole unity stuffs after messing with compizconfig
[18:46] <tnkhanh> lucky i got them back :D
 hang on White_Cat are you also the user darknet
[18:52] <Darknet> lol?
[18:53] <light94> Hello everyone, i am new to linux . I wanted to know if there is a difference between installing a program with ubuntu's apt-get and building directly from source (git)
[18:54] <light94> specially if I want to contribute to the app
[18:54] <Prezident> Not really.
[18:55] <tnkhanh> hi
[18:55] <light94> Prezident: so, for example i installed an app from the software center and it says that canonical does not provide updates to the app
[18:56] <light94> so, in that case, how do we update the app?
[18:57] <llutz> light94: get the source, build your own package, install it. avoid to install stuff without using the packagemanagement, makes updates/deinstallations etc much easier
[18:57] <xeniphon> light94:  The primary difference between apt-get and git is that apt will track dependencies and versions.  With git you need to know you have all the required libraries, headers and the like - apt&dpkg won't help you as much.
[19:00] <light94> xeniphon: so an app installed via apt-get isn't always up to date with the source even if apt-get update command doesn't tell about upgradations?
[19:05] <def_> Hi, I am trying to install some themes, but I am not sure how i can make the menu bar go at the bottom like a mac as the designer has done on this theme http://pauloarapiraca.deviantart.com/art/Elementary-Dark-2-0-462699494?ga_submit_new=10%253A1403459880
[19:05] <def_> How would I go about doing this?
[19:09] <Justus_> hi
[19:10] <Justus_> is there a project that deals with sound problems?
[19:11] <thorij> Hello Im having trouble with my headphones... there is this static noise all the time like they are set to volume 100% or more but they are not, sound is working just fine but this noise in background is really annying
[19:11] <thorij> all input devices all disabled also tried a lot with options snd-hda-intel model=... but it make no difference
[19:13] <Justus_> ah, the joys of pulse, sorry there, I can't help you, I'm currently in the middle of another annoying sound problem myself :|
[19:20] <tech2_> Hi all, I've recently add-apt-repository'd a ppa, launchpad shows a particular set of versions of packages for my installed release (utopic) but when I apt-cache search it's showing an earlier version. How do I discover where the issue is?
[19:20] <bekks> tech2_: Can you show us those outputs in a pastebin please?
[19:20] <SchrodingersScat> did you apt-get update?
[19:21] <tech2_> SchrodingersScat: I did.
[19:24] <tech2_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9631258/
[19:25] <tech2_> bekks: https://launchpad.net/~hansjorg/+archive/ubuntu/rust - the ppa in question shows 0.12 as an available option, it's in the pool and there appears to be a dsc for utopic. I worry I may be reading things wrongly though.
[19:27] <pyromine> Has anyone ever had the issue of pip giving a Permission Denied error on pip list?
[19:30] <Seveas> pyromine: no, but I can see how it could happen. Could you run it under strace -eopen?
[19:30] <Seveas> (and pastebin the output)
[19:31] <norinder> Hi, after disabling ipv6 in 14.04, I have to do a "sudo sysctl -p" every time I connect to a new network.  Is this expected?
[19:32] <Seveas> norinder: welcome to the 21st century. Stop disabling ipv6, it serves no purpose to do so.
[19:33] <norinder> Seveas, sorry, but my ISP has ipv6 all screwed up
[19:33] <norinder> OfflineIMAP doesn't play well with ipv6 and my ISP
[19:33] <norinder> Have to disable ipv6
[19:33] <pyromine> Seveas, Well this is just the output from running it in general. http://pastebin.com/cHQRBZvt
[19:33] <Seveas> norinder: time to swtich isp :)
[19:33] <maxwell_> gello
[19:33] <norinder> Seveas, I'm at a university
[19:33] <maxwell_> hello
[19:34] <fx11> guys, how to make fonts rendering like osx?
[19:34] <norinder> fx11, disable hinting
[19:34] <Seveas> pyromine: probably result of a 'sudo pip'. sudo rm -r /home/tom/.cache/pip
[19:35] <norinder> fx11, or see the infinality package: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[19:35] <maxwell_> hello
[19:35] <pyromine> Seveas, Thanks that fixed it, never would have guessed it was the cache
[19:36] <maxwell_> what does this message mean? m_ssl_gnutls.so: undefined symbol: gnutls_x509_privkey_import
[19:36] <maxwell_> is this a problem with the module itself?
[19:38] <locutus1> hello all.  having an issue with a fresh install of transmission-daemon.  I am getting errors that say "no data found! ensure your drives are connected or use set location".  The settings.json was pulled from a working setup and placed here.  The path names to complete and incomplete downloads are the same on this system and the drives are mounted.  any help?
[19:40] <tech2_> bekks, SchrodingersScat: any further ideas? :(
[19:44] <Justus_> jesus christ, it's the same as always, the more I learn about pulse and how it handles stuff the more terrible and idiotic it appears :|
[19:44] <Justus_> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724735
[19:44] <proc3sarte> HI!
[19:45] <Justus_> proc3sarte: hey
[19:46] <Vegg> Hello there. I'm attempting to start up a game on Steam(Rust, linux compatible). However, keep getting a error "Could not find required openGL entry point, glcolormaskindexedEXT". Im suspecting this  has something to do with the GFX drivers. Any ideas?
[19:46] <Justus_> How about a new project "Sound for Linux - Taking care of that shit for you."
[19:46] <EriC^^> Justus_: how about you make it?
[19:46] <tech2_> Justus_: _another_ standard... of course, that will fix _all_ the problems.
[19:47] <Justus_> EriC^^: that is the idea...
[19:47] <daniel__> hello i did a minimal install of unity with --no-install-recommends now im trying to use the tweak tool and im getting "The following schema is missing com.canonical.indicator.session"
[19:47] <Justus_> tech2_: Don't think standard, think middleware handling the communication between parts seemingly not built to work together
[19:50] <Justus_> I mean look at what I got here, right now bluez may be the culprit, since it claims the device connected is not media capable, leaving out the 3 hours of research I had to do to arrive at this point all that matters to the user is "my audio doesn't work". Same problem on another OS: "Look at that, I plugged it in and it works!"
[19:50] <tech2_> Justus_: an API is a standard like any other. Are you proposing this replacement middleware supports the exact same API as pulse?
[19:51] <Justus_> tech2_: I am not even suggesting replacing pulse, the problem isn't inside pulse, it's in the way it's deployed
[19:51] <Justus_> tech2_: the whole problem is in not having critical parts under your control
[19:52] <daniel__> wich package contains it?
[19:52] <tech2_> Justus_: the likelihood is bluez imho, it's an absolute pita and iirc the version in ubuntu is at least a major version out of date with bluez latest release.
[19:52] <Justus_> tech2_: just one word for that (you can probably imagine the tone of it) - WHAT?!
[19:53] <locutus1> nm
[19:53] <locutus1> it's working now
[19:53] <Justus_> tech2_: one full version? O_o
[19:53] <Justus_> tech2_: meaning I can now probably go ahead and compile it on my own
[19:54] <tech2_> Justus_: from bluez homepage "Release of BlueZ 5.27", from dpkg on utopic - 4.101-0ubuntu20
[19:54] <Justus_> tech2_: or throw either ubuntu or the idea of using my computer to play smartphone audio away
[19:54] <tech2_> Justus_: it's not that easy to just recompile though, iirc bluez did a bit of a rewrite between 4 and 5 and it's incompatible, but I could be wrong there.
[20:02] <Giwrgaras> j/ #c#
[20:04] <sergiu> Hello :)
[20:12] <Josephine23>  High Quality photos and videos http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[20:15] <s1lk> servus zusammen
[20:16] <s1lk> nachdem ich nun einiges probiert habe dachte ich mir es könnte kein fehler sein mal hier zu fragen ...  :)
[20:16] <llutz> !de | s1lk
[20:24] <Laurenceb__> hi, I have a problem, metacity has crashed, and I need to restore my desktop using putty from a windows machine
[20:24] <Laurenceb__> can anyone assist me
[20:25] <Laurenceb__> and first machine is stil dead
[20:25] <Laurenceb__> (metacity --replace&) $ Window manager error: Unable to open X display
[20:26] <orrieux> motogp
[20:28] <SchrodingersScat> Laurenceb__: might have to export the display?
[20:29] <Laurenceb__> ok, how do i do that?
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> Laurenceb__: something like export DISPLAY=":0.0"
[20:30] <Laurenceb__> ah perfect, it works
[20:31] <Laurenceb__> thanks
[20:33] <sasha-> Yop anyone know how I can disable the middle button?
[20:33] <sasha-> it randomly pastes stuff  all the time
[20:33] <Annoyed> Good afternoon
[20:33] <sasha-> drove me through the roof until I discovered what messed with me
[20:33] <blackangelpr> sasha-,  any imput device that do that its must be broken XD
[20:34] <sasha-> very
[20:34] <SchrodingersScat> !pm | badape
[20:34] <sasha-> the laptop was in a lake blackangelpr
[20:35] <blackangelpr> XD
[20:36] <Annoyed> Having a problem getting XDMCP to work on 14.04, either server or desktop versions. I know Unity won't work, so I installed the server version (no GUI by default) and during install, I installed Gnome, intending on using gdm ... But Xming can't get a desktop
[20:38] <Annoyed> and it would appear that the service is not running or the port is blocked.. nmap says the port is closed : 177/tcp closed xdmcp
[20:42] <Annoyed> Anyone manage to get XDMCP going in 14.04 ?
[20:46] <anonemoose> Hello
[20:47] <anonemoose> How do I customise the ubuntu iso to minimize its size?
[20:47] <anonemoose> I want to remove all the browsers, text editors, wall papers it comes with
[20:48] <anonemoose> and strip it to just plain desktop environment and a console
[20:48] <Seveas> anonemoose: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:49] <anonemoose> Thanks a lot Seveas
[20:50] <OerHeks> many features are dependencies of unity desktop, i bet you end up not that much smaller
[20:51] <eightball> try to install this sudo apt-get install myagenda   GET THIS ERRORW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ trusty/partner i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:51] <eightball> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:51] <eightball> help please
[20:52] <OerHeks> eightball, and did you run apt-get update ?
[20:53] <eightball> yes then i get this error W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/piotr-zagawa/ma2/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:53] <eightball> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[20:53] <\o> o/
[20:54] <llutz> eightball: its a warning, not an error
[20:54] <OerHeks> eightball, oh, but that ppa https://launchpad.net/~piotr-zagawa/+archive/ubuntu/ma2 has only got a Precise 12.04 candidate.
[20:54] <OerHeks> eightball, remove that ppa in softwarecenter
[20:54] <eightball> yes i did see that later after i read it
[20:56] <eightball> how do i do that ?
[20:57] <OerHeks> eightball, open softwarecenter > edit > sources, and find that ppa in the list 'other software'
[20:59] <eightball> then un check?
[20:59] <OerHeks> eightball, yes
[20:59] <eightball> then update then try to install sudo apt-get install myagenda
[20:59] <OerHeks> as you didn't install any part, you won´t need ppa-purge to reverse anything
[21:00] <eightball> ok
[21:00] <OerHeks> no, myagenda is not available
[21:00] <eightball> is there another program like it you can point me to?
[21:02] <SupaYoshi> Hey I have a problem, I am trying to resize a LVM2PV partition?
[21:02] <SupaYoshi> But I cannot resize it I want it to be smaller. Im using gparted.
[21:03] <SupaYoshi> And Im reading this stuff on this website, but it wont work for me
[21:03] <SupaYoshi> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume
[21:03] <SupaYoshi> Because it is already umounted, im booting from a live cd.
[21:03] <OerHeks> eightball, there is simpelagenda, else some other option that requires a PPA http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/california-calendar-app-hits-yorba-daily-ppa
[21:04] <SupaYoshi> It also tells me that the unallocated space is 0
[21:04] <SupaYoshi> But the unallocated space is much bigger than that
[21:05] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9631720/
[21:07] <eightball> looking at ti
[21:08] <SupaYoshi> Thanks. xD
[21:09] <OerHeks> SupaYoshi, you might want to use parted or gdisk for those gpt partitions
[21:09] <SupaYoshi> I am :D
[21:09] <SupaYoshi> I am in gparted.
[21:09] <SupaYoshi> But in gparted (live cd/usb)
[21:09] <OerHeks> not gparted, that one cannot handle gpt too, is it?
[21:09] <SupaYoshi> It wont let me resize either the LVM or the other extended partition.
[21:09] <SupaYoshi> It cannot?
[21:10] <SupaYoshi> http://gparted.org/livecd.php im using this.
[21:10] <SupaYoshi> But?
[21:11] <OerHeks> oh it can.
[21:12] <SupaYoshi> Yeah..
[21:12] <SupaYoshi> But so why cant i resize the partition sizes? O.o
[21:12] <SupaYoshi> I cannot of the LVM or the Extended partition.
[21:15] <SupaYoshi> Picture :D https://s3.amazonaws.com/pushbullet-uploads/ujxmyuGuoXk-GfH0k5FQ6yzCtWZebByjJOQQn36LHFb0/IMG_20141227_215158.jpg
[21:16] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: What are you trying to do?
[21:16] <SupaYoshi> Flannel, trying to reduce the size of /dev/sdb5 to 110 GB or so.
[21:17] <SupaYoshi> So I can put it on my 120 GB ssd.
[21:17] <SupaYoshi> (clonezilla)
[21:17] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: You first need to shrink the size of the LVM stuff "inside" the partition (to make it so you really do have 30GiB Unused)
[21:17] <SupaYoshi> But it says Used: 148.81
[21:17] <SupaYoshi> Yeahh!
[21:17] <Flannel> right, you need to make that 120ish
[21:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> :D But I cannot move that bar
[21:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a window that was on a second screen
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> Like I usually can. with gparted.
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> So like.. How would I resize it / make it smaller?
[21:18] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: That's because it's all used.  Your 150GB partition is completely full of LVM stuff.
[21:18] <MDTech-us_MAN> I disconnected the screen and now I cant fint the window!
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> Okay understood thanks mate
[21:18] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: You need to use LVM tools, not gparted.
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> So I need to boot into Linux?
[21:18] <SupaYoshi> Okay. Never done that before man :D
[21:19] <Flannel> You can probably use your liveCD
[21:19] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: http://blog.shadypixel.com/how-to-shrink-an-lvm-volume-safely/
[21:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> how do i bring the window over to the current screen
[21:19] <SupaYoshi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9631766/ there
[21:20] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: First you resize the partition(s) that are inside the LVM (like /, this will be ext3, ext4, etc, regular filesystems), then you'll use lvreduce to shrink the size of your logical volume, then you can shrink the size of the PV that the LV is inside of, etc.
[21:20] <SupaYoshi> Okay cool
[21:21] <SupaYoshi> I only have 1 partition inside of the LVm right?
[21:21] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume is another one, that covers exactly what you're trying to do as well.
[21:21] <Flannel> (It even shows your picture)
[21:21] <SupaYoshi> Yeah I found that myself
[21:22] <SupaYoshi> But my partition was already umounted.
[21:22] <Flannel> And actually, the askubuntu link I gave also covers the volume group reduction, so that's closer to what you'll want.
[21:22] <SupaYoshi> Do I do this from the gparted live cd?
[21:22] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: Assuming the gparted liveCD has those commands (e2fsck, resize2fs, lvreduce, vgreduce, only the latter two are questionable) then yes.
[21:23] <SupaYoshi> Flannel, okay cool. So If I follow the guide what has 17 likes, and 3 answers above it...
[21:23] <SupaYoshi> I'm going to be fine
[21:23] <SupaYoshi> correct?
[21:23] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: The one with the half-dozen commands, yes.  That mirrors the link I gave you earlier, just with slightly more detail
[21:25] <SupaYoshi> To be exact, this right? http://prntscr.com/5llo7w
[21:25] <SupaYoshi> Sorry I am very insecure about tis.
[21:25] <SupaYoshi> I made a backup of the drive but still
[21:25] <SupaYoshi> Scarey
[21:25] <thewrinkle> Can anyone tell me how I can find what is modifying my path?
[21:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[21:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a window that was on a second screen
[21:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> I disconnected the screen and now I cant fint the window!
[21:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> *find
[21:26] <thewrinkle> I know the path is globally set in /etc/environment and then user profiles should set the path in ~/.profile and ~/.bashrc
[21:26] <MDTech-us_MAN> how do i bring the window over to the current screen
[21:27] <SupaYoshi> # lvreduce -L -1G /dev/vg_blah/lv_blah Does this mean minus 1 GB?
[21:28] <rypervenche> SupaYoshi: Approximately 1 gigabyte, yes. It will not be exact, as it depends on the number of extents. Make sure you resize your file system before doing that though.
[21:35] <SupaYoshi> Okay so
[21:35] <SupaYoshi> Will this be correct?
[21:35] <SupaYoshi> http://prntscr.com/5llt4r
[21:35] <bonhoeffer> since iptables is not a service, but part of the kernel, there is no way to disable it, right?
[21:35] <bonhoeffer> one can just give it zero rules
[21:38] <SupaYoshi> Correction, http://prntscr.com/5llui9
[21:38] <SupaYoshi> Flannel, do you think this lookks right? http://prntscr.com/5llui9
[21:39] <SupaYoshi> I really don't understand what he means with lv_blah
[21:40] <SupaYoshi> nad vg_blah
[21:41] <SupaYoshi> :(
[21:43] <OldMan> Hi all!
[21:45] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: That's the name you gave your logical volume (LV) and volume group (VG) (traditionally it's LV* and VG* respectively)
[21:46] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: so, your volume group is named "HOMESRV-vg"
[21:46] <SupaYoshi> Yeah!
[21:46] <SupaYoshi> Because the mount-point is named that way right?
[21:48] <SupaYoshi> so I am wondering if I should do, umount /dev/HOMESRV-vg
[21:48] <SupaYoshi> but that says, there is no such directory.
[21:49] <SupaYoshi> So Im like, that must be wrong?
[21:49] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: You're on your liveCD, so it's probably not mounted to begin with.
[21:49] <SupaYoshi> Okay, understood.
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> But, how would I interate these commands?
[21:51] <rypervenche> bonhoeffer: It is both part of the kernel and a program.
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> If I don't know what to exaclty type ?
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> For the VG and LVM thing blah blah.
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> I don't know where to find the correct naming for them.
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> So idk what Im doing basically.?
[21:51] <bonhoeffer> rypervenche: i’ve heard i can replace it with palantir — would that be a kernel modification?
[21:51] <SupaYoshi> That's probally All I need to know since I know this.
[21:51] <rypervenche> bonhoeffer: Depending on how your kernel is set up you could disable/blacklist the modules if they were built as modules. Otherwise, simply don't make any rules.
[21:51] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: Look in the /dev/ directory, see if theyre there.
[21:51] <bonhoeffer> got it
[21:52] <mybox1776> Anyone here ever set up a surveillance system on Ubuntu?  If so, any good, failry easy ones to setup?
[21:52] <Flannel> SupaYoshi: It may be that the liveCD doesn't have LVM stuff installed, so you'll need to install them, or find a different liveCD, or whatever.
[21:52] <rypervenche> bonhoeffer: I've never heard of palantir.
[21:52] <SupaYoshi>  http://prntscr.com/5lm1lk
[21:52] <SupaYoshi> Okay!
[21:53] <SupaYoshi> :D Thanks.
[21:53] <skinux> I just copied a gEdit plugin directory to /.gnome2/gedit/plugins, but the plugin isn't showing up in Preferences->Plugins
[21:54] <SchrodingersScat> !info zoneminder | mybox1776, Although, I've never used it personally, this is one
[21:54] <mybox1776> Sweet!  Thanks!   Googling it now.
[21:55] <SchrodingersScat> mybox1776: the website: http://www.zoneminder.com/
[21:55] <mybox1776> My flipn landlord wont believe his maintenence man is coming in my place
[21:55] <mybox1776> I want to nail him -
[21:55] <mybox1776> Awesome, thanks!
[21:56] <Chuck_Norris> mybox1776: http://terminal28.com/how-to-install-and-configure-zoneminder-linux-cctv-debian/
[21:57] <mybox1776> Looks pretty slick!
[21:57] <osakiyama> hi
[21:57] <mybox1776> I am in the process of building a new box - just got parts from new egg
[21:59] <Chuck_Norris> mybox1776: /j #hardware
[21:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[21:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a window that was on a second screen
[21:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> I disconnected the screen and now I cant find the window!
[21:59] <MDTech-us_MAN> how do i bring the window over to the current screen
[22:00] <feurd> Hello! I have a script for rsync my /home/ directory on an external hard drive : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9631907/ In it, there's a test to check if my disk is present. And despite the fact that it is, the script keeps saying that it's not. Does someone have an idea why?
[22:01] <teward> feurd: first question: is your system automatically mounting the drive at boot or no?
[22:01] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: hm. try to catch the window by cycling through your open windows by alt+tab. if it's activated but still not shown, perhaps ctrl+alt+shift+left/right helps to bring it to another virtual desktop.
[22:02] <teward> feurd: because the disk being present and the disk being mounted are different
[22:02] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: if you don't find the window by cycling with alt+tab, perhaps it's closed. you could check that by inspecting the processes list.
[22:02] <mybox1776> Whats /J #harware
[22:02] <skinux> I can't seem to get gEdit to see this plugin no matter what directory I put it in.
[22:03] <Chuck_Norris> mybox1776: a channel to chat about hardware
[22:03] <mybox1776> woops duh
[22:03] <mybox1776> thx
[22:03] <Chuck_Norris> np
[22:04] <feurd> teward, Well, it is indeed automatically mounting my discs (or I presume it does, because I don't do it myself). But I checked and the disc in question in correctly under /media/feurd/DEXTER, as it is specified on the script.
[22:05] <teward> feurd: that... wasn't my question - the only time you'll see that directory if you've clicked the thing in the GUI and the system mounts it.
[22:05] <SupaYoshi> http://mindbuffer.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/resize-root-filesystem-in-logical-volume/ Should I do this to resize my logical volume size?
[22:05] <teward> feurd: if you DON'T click the icon or the name of the drive in the GUI file explorer, it won't mount it automatically.
[22:06] <teward> feurd: so, after booting, have you gone in the file system to the root location and tried to access the path yourself?
[22:06] <teward> feurd: or in the command line, gone to /media/ and made sure that entire path exists, WITHOUT clicking the icon for the external disk
[22:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika
[22:07] <MDTech-us_MAN> I juat tried that and now I cant even see Alt+Tab
[22:08] <brent> feurd, im a bit of a noob here so excuse me if im in the wrong direction
[22:08] <teward> feurd: because I too have an external disk, but it isn't automounted on a reboot, the GUI doesn't do that.
[22:08] <brent> could you add it to the fstab file?
[22:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> guess it now shows Alt+Tab on another screen
[22:08] <feurd> teward, Sorry, I'm not sure I follow you completely. If I can access the disc through GUI, write on it, etc, doesn't it mean it's mounted?
[22:09] <teward> feurd: you missed my point - did you reboot and then go via ***the command line*** to make sure the path actually exists
[22:09] <feurd> teward, no I didnt.
[22:09] <teward> feurd: because if you mean 'accessing via the gui' as in clicking the disk name under "Devices" that will automatically mount the disk
[22:09] <feurd> teward, Ok, that's why I did.
[22:09] <teward> feurd: the only way to ***guarantee*** the disk is always mounted is to put it into /etc/fstab and that will guarantee it is always mounted at boot
[22:10] <teward> feurd: okay, then that's a form of manually mounting the disk
[22:10] <brent> like i said :)
[22:10] <feurd> teward, Ok I didn't know.
[22:10] <feurd> brent, Indeed :)
[22:10] <teward> feurd: that's why you get a 'doesn't exist' error - because /media/$USER/DEXTER will never exist until it's automatically created by the Files system
[22:10] <teward> feurd: is it an NTFS partition?
[22:10] <teward> (on that external disk)
[22:10] <teward> or is it ext?
[22:10] <brent> feurd, do you know how to add it?
[22:10] <brent> theres a great gui program built in that makes it easy
[22:10] <teward> brent: i was gonna help him with that oo ;)
[22:10] <teward> brent: but GUIs?  not the best way
[22:11] <teward> (badthings if the GUI is wrong)
[22:11] <brent> with 2 clicks its done
[22:11] <brent> hehe ok ill leave it for you ;)
[22:11] <rypervenche> udev always messing things up :)
[22:11] <teward> ^ that
[22:11] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: okay, so Unity thinks you've still two screens enabled... that's the main problem, I think.
[22:11] <brent> im talking about using "Disks"
[22:11] <teward> ahhhh
[22:12] <rypervenche> udisks rather
[22:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika, so what do I do?
[22:12] <MDTech-us_MAN> in Displays I only have one screen showing
[22:12] <teward> brent: true, that could be done and work
[22:12] <teward> brent: i thought you meant a separate utility :)
[22:12] <teward> brent: tricky on NTFS mounts if you want some advanced options though
[22:13] <feurd> teward, Ok. It's a bit weird, I'm not sure I understand quantum state where it's at the same time mounted and not mounted :) But anyway. I don't remember what format I use, but I'm sure it's not ext.
[22:13] <teward> feurd: if you went via the files window, it's not mounted unless there's an eject button next to it
[22:14] <feurd> I should probably format it in ext4 if I want to use it for backups.
[22:14] <teward> feurd: the "Files" window (and Nautilus) is 'smart' but not automount smart
[22:14] <feurd> teward, But there's a eject button
[22:14] <MDTech-us_MAN> will "kill"ing unity log me out?
[22:14] <teward> feurd: sure, after you open it, or on a removable drive that's standing by to be mounted.  but on boot it's not mounted by default
[22:14] <Eliona23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[22:14] <teward> and if you log out you're screwed there too
[22:15] <feurd> teward, Ok, that's probably right.
[22:15] <teward> feurd: i would use the Disks utility to make the mount point, and if you want your data accessible outside of Ubuntu, use whatever format is there now
[22:15] <feurd> teward, But we agree that now, it's mounted. Right?
[22:15] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: sure, that will log you out. can you reach the overview over the virtual desktops? it's on the dock, usually. if you're in the overview, you can grab the window and move it to another screen.
[22:15] <teward> feurd: yes, right now, it's mounted - it's erroring when it gets unmounted somehow.
[22:15] <Zemeio> Hi. So, I want to burn an ubuntu live CD, but I only have a CD, not a DVD. Anyone have a link to a CD image?
[22:16] <teward> feurd: so, the solution is to set up the mount at boot, for your user to access it and such.
[22:16] <feurd> teward, ok so the idea now is to make it automatically mounted?
[22:16] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika, where is the overview?
[22:16] <feurd> teward, all right, I follow your orders :)
[22:16] <teward> feurd: i'd use the "Disks" utility (search it in the dash), and maybe brent can walk you through it
[22:17] <teward> i have to take the girlfriend out on the date today :)
[22:17] <MDTech-us_MAN> I dont see it
[22:17] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: it's usually the lowest button on the dock
[22:17] <Bashing-om> Zemeio: The only image I am aware of that will fit on a CD in the 'buntu sisterhood is the 'minimal" install . Not to be entered into light heartedly.
[22:17] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: if you're on a laptop, you might also want to try the key on your keyboard that tells the system to switch between screens
[22:18] <feurd> teward, I don't have anything called Disks...
[22:18] <Zemeio> Bashing-om Thanks
[22:18] <Bashing-om> Zemeio: I take it a USB is not an option ?
[22:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> I don'e have that button though I remember having it on another one of my systems
[22:19] <MDTech-us_MAN> this is a laptop, but it has no such button
[22:19] <Zemeio> Bashing-om: It would be my first option, but apparently there are none I can use here =/
[22:20] <squinty> feurd:  Disks > gnome-disk-utility (package name) > gnome-disks (name for terminal)  if running a current ubuntu version you should have it
[22:21] <cpika> okay, MDTech-us_MAN. open a terminal and try 'xrandr --auto'
[22:21] <Maryland_IT_Guy> Hello. Does anybody know of a good resource with labs/book/training for advanced network analysis for tcpdump? More along the lines of security analysis, malware traffic/intrusion detection. I'd appreciate it.
[22:22] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: that might update the system
[22:23] <feurd> squinty, Oh ok, I'm in it.
[22:23] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: wireshark might have some good resources.
[22:23] <xamxam> Hi, How can i restore ubuntu to its original state?
[22:24] <jhutchins> xamxam: From what?
[22:24] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: the thing is, I really need it to be tcpdump cli specific. I've done a fair amount of searching on the web and cannot come up with anything substantial. Tons of stuff on wireshark though.
[22:24] <xamxam> i want to reinstall it, but i am thinking if i can just restore it to earliest possible time.
[22:24] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: That's because wireshark is the tool for the job.
[22:25] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: It's good enough that people don't put any effort into alternatives.
[22:25] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: You can take the output of tcpdump and process it with wireshark.
[22:25] <rypervenche> Maryland_IT_Guy: You can use tcpdump and tshark I think it's called, the CLI version of wireshark, and they will work well, but you need to know what you're looking for and create package captures to do exactly what you want.
[22:25] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: Wireshark is not supported/allowed where I work. Lol. I know how to use wireshark rather well.
[22:26] <xamxam> like freshly install ubuntu. i have changed quite a lot of things, and messed up many of its settings and programs, restoring to raw OS is what i am looking for.
[22:26] <rypervenche> s/package/packet/
[22:26] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: tcpdump is ok if you know what you're looking for, like the traffic for a DHCP session.
[22:27] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: If they don't want you seeing what wireshark can show you, trying to see it with tcpdump is probably not a good alternative.
[22:27] <feurd> teward, Well, my external drive was set to automatic mounting. So the original explanation doesn't stand anymore.....
[22:28] <rypervenche> feurd: When you boot up your system, run "df -hT" and provide us with its output s'il te plaît.
[22:28] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: I oversee a contract for the government. They only allow CLI on the analysis machine.
[22:28] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: not my decision.. lol
[22:29] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: if it was up to me, I'd be using wireshark only.
[22:29] <feurd> rypervenche, I do that now.
[22:29] <jhutchins> Maryland_IT_Guy: Just left a contract for the GSA myself.  You can record the info with tcpdump and analyse it on another machine, or use the CLI variants of wireshark.
[22:29] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: that is not an option, I'm not an admin and they don't allow wireshark as authorized software.
[22:30] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: or tshark for that matter.
[22:31] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: tcpdump is literally the only thing I can use. I know the basics. I can filter for certain hosts, ports, strings, snaplength, etc, etc
[22:31] <EriC^^> xamxam: you can backup your stuff and installed programs and reinstall
[22:31] <EriC^^> xamxam: for future reference you can dd the installation if you want to later restore it
[22:31] <EriC^^> or use lvm for snapshots or something
[22:31] <bekks> xamxam: Or create a simple backup-
[22:31] <bekks> !backup | xamxam
[22:32] <Maryland_IT_Guy> jhutchins: anyway, I'm going to continue to search the web for answers. Thanks for your input jhutchins.
[22:32] <jhutchins> xamxam: Linux does not take snapshots when changes are made, that's up to you to do manually.
[22:32] <rypervenche> Maryland_IT_Guy: Then you will need to use that for your needs, but it sounds to me like you need to know more about what you should be searching for. If they don't allow you to use the tools you need though, then you should either be an admin, the admin there should be doing this, or you should have a talk with them to allow you to use the tools you need.
[22:33] <feurd> rypervenche, Here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9632053/
[22:33] <brent> wb feurd
[22:33] <rypervenche> feurd: Ok, well first thing is first. You do not want to backup your data to a vfat file system :)
[22:34] <feurd> rypervenche, Mhmm maybe I would if I knew what it was ;)
[22:35] <Maryland_IT_Guy> rypvervenche: I do know what I'm searching for, and I am capable of doing the job with the tools I have. I'm just trying to get a more comprehensive understanding about tcpdump. It's a sophisticated tool with a ton of different switches and capabilities that I don't fully understand yet.
[22:35] <rypervenche> feurd: Secondly, we'll want to make sure that you have the correct path set up, you may have it set up incorrectly: namei -om /media/feurd/DEXTER/save/rsync/home
[22:36] <rypervenche> feurd: But the second part is not really necessary right now since you'll be reformatting :)
[22:36] <adrian15> So I have a wrong sudoers file. I cannot run: sudo -i . Why Ubuntu software center lets me install "Extreme Tux Racer"? Is it a bug ?
[22:36] <feurd> rypervenche, shouldn't I format it in ext4?
[22:37] <EriC^^> adrian15: it doesn't use sudo
[22:37] <rypervenche> feurd: Yep. I was just giving you a solution to see why it wasn't working, but it won't matter anyways since we'll be reformatting. Yes, ext4 would be good.
[22:37] <bekks> adrian15: Why did you change your sudoers file in a wrong way?
[22:38] <adrian15> bekks: It's a for Rescatux demo video so that I can regenerate them. I was hoping not being able to install programs because of sudo problems.
[22:38] <adrian15> EriC^^:  What does it use then? Being inside admin group or something ?
[22:38] <feurd> rypervenche, Ok so first, I format it. Let's see after that.
[22:38] <rypervenche> feurd: D'accord, sounds good.
[22:38] <EriC^^> adrian15: it asks for your password before installing software
[22:39] <adrian15> EriC^^: Yes, that's right. And how does it validate that I'm the right person for installing software ?
[22:39] <bekks> EriC^^: And then? How does it get root privileges without sudo? :)
[22:39] <Maryland_IT_Guy> rypervenche: Thanks for the help!
[22:40] <rypervenche> Maryland_IT_Guy: https://danielmiessler.com/study/tcpdump/ is a good beginning guide. For more in-depth things, you'll need to first know what you need/want to do then ask those questions.
[22:42] <EriC^^> bekks: it doesn't use sudo
[22:42] <EriC^^> bekks: it uses some sort of apt daemon thingy
[22:42] <bekks> EriC^^: Then what does it use? How does it get root privileges otherwise?
[22:42] <EriC^^> you can install packages and remove them from the software center with the package sudo uninstalled
[22:42] <bekks> There is no such thing as "apt daemon".
[22:42] <Maryland_IT_Guy> rypervenche: Thanks a lot. Great article. I read that a few weeks ago, but I should read it again. :)
[22:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika
[22:42] <MDTech-us_MAN> I ran the command and nothing
[22:43] <MDTech-us_MAN> should I have run it as root?
[22:43] <EriC^^> bekks: i dont know, when you get the box to enter your password press on details it mentions a service
[22:43] <EriC^^> bekks: it's not sudo though and will run and install without sudo installed
[22:44] <Tom_> Hello there. Was just wondering if anyone has a way of creating a windows bootable USB, while inside of Ubuntu? Tried netbootin & winusb, however, can't seem to get any of those 2 working.
[22:46] <EriC^^> adrian15: what are you trying to achieve?
[22:46] <EriC^^> adrian15: not being able to install programs?
[22:46] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika?
[22:47] <adrian15> EriC^^: bekks: Action: org.debian.apt.install-or-remove-packages ; Provider: Apt Daemon
[22:47] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: I really don't know. but I don't have experience with dual monitors either. repeat your initial question so that someone else can give you more tips :(
[22:47] <adrian15> EriC^^: Something visual about the user no longer being in sudoers (because of sudoers being wrong). I could do some terminal but I wish there was something visual.
[22:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> hello
[22:47] <MDTech-us_MAN> I have a window that was on a second screen
[22:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> I disconnected the screen and now I cant find the window!
[22:48] <MDTech-us_MAN> how do i bring the window over to the current screen
[22:48] <k1l> use the show desktop thing in the launcher and drag and drop the window to the first screen then
[22:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> k1l, I don't have that "thing"
[22:49] <adrian15> EriC^^: bekks: It seems that there is an aptdaemon: https://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/ .
[22:49] <sloppeng> Anyone else having problems resizing webapp windows with 14.10?
[22:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> for whatever reason
[22:49] <k1l> MDTech-us_MAN: what desktop?
[22:49] <k1l> MDTech-us_MAN: what ubuntu version?
[22:49] <MDTech-us_MAN> 14.04.1
[22:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> desktop you mean as in window system?
[22:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> if so, I have the default
[22:50] <MDTech-us_MAN> i think its called unity or gnome or something like that
[22:51] <k1l> MDTech-us_MAN: press super+w
[22:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> ok
[22:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I did
[22:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I see the windows that are on this screem
[22:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> but not any others
[22:52] <MDTech-us_MAN> I am sure I did no close them
[22:53] <k1l> use alt+tab. if its not on there its closed
[22:53] <MDTech-us_MAN> one of the windows is XChat. as you can see, its still open and connected: maxwell_
[22:53] <squinty> MDTech-us_MAN:  left hand side of the unity screen, right click on the relevant app in the panel and see if it listed there
[22:54] <karolkens> wow dat irssi clnt
[22:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> squinty, its there. I even see someone PMed me on IRC lol
[22:54] <MDTech-us_MAN> its showing a notification
[22:55] <adrian15> EriC^^:  bekks : I'm also able to add users to my system. Anyways it does not matter. I'll use the command line instead for an example.
[22:55] <MDTech-us_MAN> which means it is running
[22:56] <EriC^^> adrian15: you can boot into recovery mode and fix the sudoers file if you want
[22:56] <k1l> MDTech-us_MAN: click on the "workspaceswitcher" which gives an overview
[22:56] <MDTech-us_MAN> I dont have such a thing im my launcher
[22:57] <MDTech-us_MAN> *in
[22:57] <adrian15> EriC^^: No problem about it. That's what I'm demoing in Rescatux. Being able to repair it. I just wanted to show something more visual about you messing up with sudoers. Not having to type "sudo ls -l /root" and seeing that it does not work.
[22:58] <EriC^^> adrian15: ok
[22:58] <EriC^^> adrian15: how'd you edit the sudoers file btw?
[22:58] <EriC^^> adrian15: you should always use visudo for that
[22:59] <adrian15> EriC^^: Originally ? With sudo sudoedit /etc/sudoers . With Rescatux I think I also emulate visudo although it's not strictly needed because I'm modifying it from a live cd.
[23:00] <squinty> MDTech-us_MAN:  fwiw, I just unhooked my external from my laptop, and then right clicked on the app that was open in the other monitor (firefox), then clicked on Firefox Web Browser and it automatically came up again on my laptops main screen.
[23:01] <adrian15> EriC^^: If you were interested I'm just re-recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAnmvaGvDfc with Ubuntu before and Ubuntu after in addition to what you see in the video.
[23:01] <MDTech-us_MAN> :|
[23:02] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: or try the following: install arandr ('sudo apt-get install arandr'), launch it and try to deactivate the second monitor.
[23:02] <EriC^^> adrian15: sudoedit doesn't protect from anything, you have to use visudo
[23:02] <EriC^^> adrian15: sudo visudo
[23:04] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika, it shows nothing else
[23:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> just LVDS1
[23:05] <adrian15> EriC^^: Anyway it does not matter because I'm using a live cd. Anyways it's good to know that instead of sudoedit it's recommend to use visudo. Are there any technical reasons for that advice ? I thought that sudoedit was as safe as visudo.
[23:05] <cpika> oh.
[23:05] <MDTech-us_MAN> and gray space around it
[23:06] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: that means your system is aware of the second monitor being unplugged. have you tried what squinty suggested? i.e. assuming your lost app is pidgin, you go to the launcher, right-click its button and then choose 'pidgin instant messenger' (or however it's called).
[23:06] <squinty> MDTech-us_MAN:  might want to install Unity Tweak tool (available in repo) and see if anything on Switcher tab/icon is relevant for your situation
[23:08] <MDTech-us_MAN> cpika, I tried what squinty suggested, but it doesn't appear
[23:08] <adrian15> EriC^^: Ok, visudo avoids this kind of problems. http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/27595 . So I did the right thing (for my demo :) ) when I used sudoedit.
[23:08] <cpika> MDTech-us_MAN: even if it doesn't appear, perhaps its activated. then try ctrl+alt+shift+left/right to move the window
[23:08] <EriC^^> adrian15: visudo will check the syntax and if it finds that the sudoers file is broken it will tell you about it, sudoedit wont
[23:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> yahoo!!!!
[23:10] <MDTech-us_MAN> squinty pointed me in the right direction
[23:11] <squinty> good to hear. :)
[23:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> I had to go to workspace settings and enable the Workspace switcher
[23:11] <MDTech-us_MAN> then I could access the hidden workspace and get to the programs open there
[23:12] <cpika> glad you solved the problem!
[23:13] <MDTech-us_MAN> though strange that the windows got abandoned on the other workspace instead of being forced onto the current one
[23:14] <adrian15> EriC^^: I have added a suggestion at the video end so that people uses visudo instead of sudoedit ;) .
[23:15] <EriC^^> adrian15: o/
[23:16] <EriC^^> adrian15: as a side note, sudo has some pretty hilarious insults built in
[23:16] <EriC^^> you can enable it in the sudoers file, and it will insult the crap ou tof you if you mess up your password
[23:18] <buu> Hey, I'm using xfce4 (I think..) and it has a menu icon top left that looks like a white.. mouse?something? on a blue circle, the dropdown contains applications and folders and at the top is one called 'web browser'. How do I edit this application?
[23:18] <Bashing-om> adrian15: ^^ Good for a chuckle when you are aggravated .
[23:18] <cyberace_> hey guys need ya help
[23:18] <cyberace_> so i 2 machines running the -ubuntu software center- 1 machine picks up -firestarter- when i type in firewall but the 2nd machine does not
[23:18] <Bashing-om> !ask
[23:22] <squinty> buu: right click on Web Browser (remove it if you want). if you want another browser listed there instead, find in Internet listing and then right click -> add to panel (or whatever)
[23:22] <buu> um
[23:23] <buu> squinty: When I right click the icon it just launches it
[23:23] <Bashing-om> cyberace_: "Firestarter is therefore deemed abandoned software and has been removed from Ubuntu repositories as of 13.10 Saucy Firestarter is therefore deemed abandoned software and has been removed from Ubuntu repositories as of 13.10 Saucy " see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Firestarter .
[23:25] <squinty> buu: might also want to check out Settings > Menu Editor
[23:25] <modelengine> hello i am having ALOT of trouble setting up my samsung m2020 printer on linux
[23:25] <modelengine> I really really need help with it if anybody can spare a few moments
[23:27] <squinty> modelengine:  it is better to just state your exact problem and if someone can help they will reply.
[23:27] <squinty> !details | modelengine
[23:27] <cyberace_> Thank you guys
[23:27] <buu> squinty: Oh, heh
[23:27] <modelengine> squinty, how to use paste bin?
[23:28] <buu> squinty: Hey look, an actual working gui =]
[23:28] <squinty> !pastebin
[23:28] <squinty> buu: :)
[23:28] <modelengine> squinty, thx i will use pastebin. just give me a few moments to fig this out
[23:30] <squinty> modelengine:  no rush. :)  btw, I am not a printer expert so just field your question to the channel and as stated before if someone can help they will reply.  :)
[23:31] <modelengine> so I used this site as a walkthru: http://karannangru.wordpress.com/2012/09/20/installing-samsung-printer-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[23:31] <modelengine> I did everything to the letter, but I am stuck on the last part where it says rastertosamsungsplc. I can't find the file and even if I could, I am having trouble figuring out where it goes. I will follow with a screenshot.
[23:33] <guest192415> Anyone know how to create a windows bootable USB in ubuntu? tried both WinUSB & unetbootin. No luck.
[23:33] <shiggitay> guest192415, have you tried simply dd-ing?
[23:33] <shiggitay> or you can use a windows VM and use a tool there
[23:34] <guest192415> shiggitay: Indeed. after dd-ing & setting the device as bootable using Gparted, i attempt to boot from it and get a message saying something about "OS not found". Something in that sense
[23:34] <shiggitay> ah
[23:34] <shiggitay> :\
[23:34] <shiggitay> then I dunnno
[23:35] <shiggitay> sorr
[23:35] <shiggitay> y
[23:35] <guest192415> shiggitay: However, i have not attempted a windows VM yet. Kinda saving that as a last resort as im expecting it to take some time.
[23:35] <shiggitay> heh yeah
[23:35] <guest192415> shiggitay: Granted, if i knew that i would be troubleshooting for 4 hrs, i wouldve gone with that option first.
[23:35] <shiggitay> I cannot guarantee that to work though
[23:35] <shiggitay> just an idea
[23:36] <modelengine> so this is what it says when i have finished with the driver install: http://imgur.com/zwjS6d4
[23:36] <guest192415> shiggitay: Was kind of expecting the windows utility of creating usb devices to work under wine though. However, there was absolutely no response when attempting to start it
[23:36] <modelengine> I just don't know how to move on from there.....
[23:36] <guest192415> shiggitay: Currently managed to change the way grub is handled or whatever in WinUSB tho. And "Installation succeeded" happend now. So wish me luck! time to reboot and test it.
[23:36] <modelengine> so what i need to know is where to find the 'raster....
[23:36]  * daftykins strolls in
[23:37] <modelengine> program that it states it needs in the window
[23:37] <daftykins> !info rasterto
[23:37] <daftykins> !find rasterto
[23:37] <cpika> modelengine: so, the message already tells you where the file will go: to /usr/libs/cups/filter/ ; so, you just need to find that file in your download
[23:37] <modelengine> squinty, i would like to say that i quite like linux, but it has awful, let me restate that AWFUL support for printers
[23:37] <daftykins> modelengine: plenty of packages that provide that it would seem
[23:38] <shiggitay> guest192145: is your machine EFI booting?
[23:38] <shiggitay> if it is you need to have some sort of EFI boot partition or something on the USB stuck
[23:38] <shiggitay> er stick
[23:38] <modelengine> cpika, thanks, but I guess i just need help finding the file.
[23:38] <squinty> modelengine:  that screen says "rastertospl" not  rastertosamsungsplc   you may want to try the following to see the location of those files.   in a terminal type  sudo updatedb  (after a bit the prompt will re-appear).  now type  locate <filename>   replace filename with the name of the file you are searching for
[23:39] <modelengine> squinty, thanks i will try that
[23:40] <modelengine> squinty, so I did that, and the prompt with my username just reappeared like normal, but no file found
[23:41] <cpika> modelengine: if 'locate' doesn't help you out, go to the folder you just downloaded from samsung, open a terminal there and type: find . -name "raster*"
[23:42] <bekks> !rootirc | Guest2602
[23:43] <modelengine> cpika, so i did that, and this is what came up: http://imgur.com/HMqYwhN
[23:44] <modelengine> cpika, squinty is there any way you could just login to my computer and do it for me? If you are ok with that???
[23:44] <cpika> okay, so if you've ubuntu 64bit installed, you copy the file via 'sudo cp Downloads/uld/x86_64/rastertospl /usr/lib/cups/filter/'
[23:45] <modelengine> cpika, so i can just type all that into a terminal and it should all work out then?
[23:45] <cpika> modelengine: I think so
[23:45] <spigot> I keep getting an "LSR safety check engaged" message from my two pci card serial ports. the hardware address and IRQ checks out with the output of lspci. where have I gone wrong?
[23:45] <modelengine> cpika, thank you for helping me i will go try that
[23:50] <incredisome> hey heyy
[23:50] <incredisome> the alpha of my indie game is up at http://warnet.jit.su - its based on WarGames - any feedback is welcome
[23:51] <k1l> incredisome: that better suits into the #ubuntu-offtopic channel since its not ubuntu tech support related.
[23:51] <squinty> incredisome:  please read the channel guidelines
[23:51] <incredisome> sorry
[23:51] <incredisome> I was told this was the right channel
[23:51] <incredisome> =/
[23:51] <incredisome> my bad
[23:52] <daftykins> by whom?
[23:52] <incredisome> guy from electronics
[23:52] <incredisome> ##electronics
[23:53] <teward> incredisome: the person lied and gave you a wrong place - read the channel guidelines first
[23:53] <daftykins> take him off your Christmas card list
[23:53] <teward> !guidelines > incredisome
[23:54] <modelengine> cpika, it now doesn't have the raster problem, but now when I try to print this comes up in the print cue: http://imgur.com/LdCeMQm
[23:54] <modelengine> everything is plugged in fine, there is no reason that I can see as to why it won't print
[23:55] <modelengine> i even did a restart just to be sure
[23:55] <anonymous__> yo
[23:56] <cpika> modelengine: okay... do you use it as a network printer or is it plugged via usb?
[23:56] <modelengine> usb
[23:56] <anonymous__> 1 question, are you all on Anonymous OS_
[23:56] <modelengine> oops, i mean: cpika : usb
[23:56] <wildhorse> ..to convert a pendrive in a installation unit, with unetboting, the ISO should be there forever
[23:56] <wafflej0ck> modelengine, actually printer support in Linux has gotten a lot better but from what I've seen HP and Canon provide drivers, not sure about Samsung
[23:57] <modelengine> wafflej0ck, i know, when i've researched it, I have found supporting evidence to confirm that linux printer support has come a long way, but it's just not as easy as windows' plug n play
[23:57] <wafflej0ck> modelengine, appears they have a proprietary driver too if you can't get the open source packages to wrok http://www.samsung.com/levant/support/model/SL-M2020/SAU
[23:57] <anonymous__> Hello
[23:57] <cpika> modelengine: let's check whether we copied the correct rasp... file. type 'uname -m' in a terminal and check whether it gives 'x86_64'.
[23:58] <modelengine> cpika, ok, will do just sec
[23:58] <modelengine> cpika, yup it says the 64 bit thing
[23:58] <Pick54> Hello
[23:59] <modelengine> cpika, when i type into search "printers" it comes up with printers and then it shows me that the samsung printer has a green check mark beside it. so, linux thinks everything is ok, i guess
[23:59] <modelengine> wafflej0ck, thanks for the info i will check it out