| schnitz | actual partition | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| delt | ok.... so if you run "glxgears" from a terminal window what do you get? | 00:00 |
| schnitz | lemme check | 00:00 |
| schnitz | not installed | 00:00 |
| schnitz | shall I apt-get it? | 00:00 |
| schnitz | apt-get install mesa-utils? | 00:01 |
| delt | should come with your opengl installation | 00:01 |
| delt | nah, not mesa... that's software rendering iirc | 00:01 |
| schnitz | well thats what the terminal suggested ;-) | 00:02 |
| schnitz | no worries, this is fun | 00:02 |
| delt | like i said, i'm much more familiar with nvidia cards, since that's what i've always been using. so i can't be of much help for ati stuff | 00:03 |
| schnitz | no prob, thanks for your help in any case! | 00:03 |
| schnitz | I do appreciate | 00:04 |
| delt | tell me what you think of the osx style theme i just hacked up together :D ---> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/greybird-mac.png | 00:05 |
| schnitz | ok | 00:05 |
| delt | well, it's just greybird with modified title bar buttons, and a slightly thicker bottom bar that's easier to grab to resize windows that don't have a "resize handle" | 00:05 |
| schnitz | looks good to me | 00:06 |
| schnitz | looks like MaxOSX | 00:06 |
| schnitz | Mac | 00:06 |
| schnitz | sorry | 00:06 |
| schnitz | good job | 00:06 |
| delt | it still lets you position the buttons like you want them, i just have to write a spec file that fixes them into place like in the real osx =) | 00:07 |
| schnitz | However, you will hate me for this, I'm kinda nuts, I like the REALLY old Windows style, like XP or ever earlier, Win2000 | 00:07 |
| delt | anyway here it is ---> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/greybird-mac.tar.gz | 00:07 |
| delt | just untar it to your /usr/share/themes | 00:07 |
| schnitz | oh yes I will do that | 00:07 |
| delt | then in the settings manager -> window manager, under the "style" tab select "Greybird-mac" | 00:08 |
| delt | for example, if you use firefox and it downloaded the file to your "Downloads" directory... | 00:10 |
| schnitz | haha I do not have the rights to do so :-) | 00:10 |
| schnitz | yeah yeah did that | 00:10 |
| delt | yeah, by default it shouldn't let you | 00:10 |
| schnitz | so? oh... sudo? | 00:10 |
| delt | so, first you'd go to /usr/share/themes | 00:10 |
| delt | cd /usr/share/themes | 00:10 |
| schnitz | terminal... | 00:10 |
| delt | then with sudo, untar the file that's in your download directory | 00:10 |
| delt | sudo tar xvf ~/Downloads/greybird-mac.tar.gz | 00:11 |
| delt | note that in the terminal, the TAB key is your friend :D | 00:11 |
| schnitz | geeeh this is nuts, but yes I'll do that | 00:11 |
| schnitz | found out about the TAB :-) | 00:11 |
| delt | you just have to type the beginning of a file, command, etc. and press TAB, the shell (by default bash) will try to auto-complete it for you. | 00:11 |
| delt | ...or, if you're more comfortable with GUI stuff, there's surely a way to drag-n-drop with the mouse | 00:12 |
| delt | a trick i use, is that i have my main user account added to the group "root" ....ie. in my /etc/group, the line that starts with "root", usually the first line, contains my username at the end | 00:14 |
| delt | so if i want my user to have permission to write somewhere, i just activate the group write permision | 00:14 |
| delt | permission** | 00:14 |
| schnitz | weird got a FileNotFound | 00:14 |
| schnitz | under terminal | 00:14 |
| delt | cd /usr/share/themes | 00:14 |
| schnitz | the package is in download though | 00:14 |
| schnitz | yeah | 00:14 |
| schnitz | I'm in themes | 00:15 |
| delt | tar xvf ~/DowPRESS TAB/grePRESS TAB AGAIN | 00:15 |
| schnitz | ok... | 00:15 |
| schnitz | wait a sec | 00:15 |
| delt | when you press tab, it should auto-complete the file, directory, etc. | 00:15 |
| schnitz | nope | 00:15 |
| schnitz | the first tab won't even complete to downloads | 00:15 |
| delt | oh, it's case sensitive: "downloads" is not the same as "Downloads" | 00:15 |
| schnitz | ah | 00:16 |
| schnitz | nope | 00:16 |
| delt | that's one thing about unix systems that's both very useful, but sometimes a pain in the ass | 00:16 |
| schnitz | same | 00:16 |
| schnitz | maybe 'cos I'm root? | 00:16 |
| delt | oh *duh* | 00:16 |
| delt | in bash, ~ is a shorthand for your home directory | 00:16 |
| delt | and ~user is a shorthand for the home directory of "user" | 00:17 |
| schnitz | ahhh | 00:17 |
| schnitz | so -myUserName/Down... does is | 00:17 |
| schnitz | it | 00:17 |
| schnitz | lemme check | 00:17 |
| delt | ~ (tilde) not - (dash) | 00:18 |
| schnitz | yep | 00:18 |
| schnitz | gotit! | 00:18 |
| delt | and it should also work just with ~ and not ~yourusername because in ubuntu by default, sudo doesn't modify the $HOME variable | 00:18 |
| delt | yep, ~ on a U.S. keyboard layout is shift + the button just under ESC | 00:19 |
| schnitz | ok got it unpacked | 00:20 |
| schnitz | thansk for your patience :-) | 00:20 |
| delt | :D | 00:20 |
| schnitz | so where can I activate it again...? | 00:20 |
| delt | hey, i learned the basics too before :D | 00:20 |
| schnitz | switch to your cool theme? | 00:21 |
| delt | settings manager, click "window manager" | 00:21 |
| delt | and the theme is called "Greybird-mac" | 00:21 |
| delt | i just hacked that together (simply modified Greybird actually) because i was futzing around with osx lately, and got used to clicking in the top left to close a window =) | 00:22 |
| schnitz | yeah clicked on it | 00:22 |
| schnitz | but... | 00:22 |
| delt | but...? | 00:23 |
| schnitz | do I need to re-login? | 00:23 |
| delt | no, should take effect immediately | 00:23 |
| schnitz | didn't change | 00:23 |
| schnitz | lemme check again | 00:23 |
| schnitz | oh weird | 00:23 |
| schnitz | all the other themes change immediately | 00:24 |
| schnitz | just yours doesn't | 00:24 |
| delt | uh wut :D | 00:24 |
| schnitz | it stay Greybird | 00:24 |
| schnitz | I had greybird | 00:24 |
| schnitz | before | 00:24 |
| schnitz | and I clicked on it | 00:24 |
| schnitz | on yours... | 00:24 |
| schnitz | and its still greybird | 00:24 |
| schnitz | exactly the same | 00:24 |
| delt | Greybird-mac appears in the list? | 00:24 |
| schnitz | r u sure your theme is portable, yes appears! | 00:24 |
| schnitz | right below greybird there is your greybird-mac | 00:25 |
| delt | can you send a screenshot? | 00:25 |
| schnitz | nope,. no e-mail client installed, but if you wait a little, I'll set it up | 00:26 |
| schnitz | it looks just like greybird, u can image | 00:26 |
| delt | bah, you know how to send files on irc? | 00:26 |
| schnitz | imagine | 00:26 |
| schnitz | actually no | 00:26 |
| delt | but the buttons on the top, they're colored circles, instead of grey X _ and [] ? | 00:27 |
| schnitz | nono | 00:27 |
| schnitz | would have noticed | 00:27 |
| schnitz | normal grey X, etc. | 00:27 |
| schnitz | so | 00:28 |
| schnitz | looking back at the terminal window | 00:28 |
| schnitz | I can see that it did unpack lots of PNGs | 00:28 |
| schnitz | I guess those are the ones that will make it look like MACOSX | 00:28 |
| schnitz | maybe there is a path problem | 00:29 |
| delt | yeah, works for several ppl in #xfce... | 00:29 |
| delt | lemme check my file again | 00:29 |
| schnitz | sure it does | 00:29 |
| delt | just unpacked it to another dir, seems to work fine.... | 00:30 |
| schnitz | hmmm.... | 00:31 |
| delt | asking the guys on #xfce to send me a screenshot to make sure =) | 00:32 |
| schnitz | :-) | 00:32 |
| delt | anyway.... not very important. | 00:33 |
| schnitz | damn I still need to get those drivers to run, that flickering screen is killing me | 00:33 |
| schnitz | still cool though | 00:33 |
| delt | can you paste the output of this command: ls -d /usr/share/themes/Grey* | 00:33 |
| delt | (just select in the terminal and middle-click in irc) | 00:34 |
| delt | just don't paste pages and pages of stuff in the channel :D | 00:35 |
| schnitz | /usr/share/themes/Greybird /usr/share/themes/Greybird-mac | 00:36 |
| schnitz | /usr/share/themes/Greybird-compact | 00:36 |
| delt | ok, so it extracted to the right place. | 00:36 |
| schnitz | yeah | 00:36 |
| schnitz | kinda nutty, ha? | 00:37 |
| delt | weird!! | 00:37 |
| schnitz | yep | 00:37 |
| delt | try taking a screenshot: xfce4-screenshooter | 00:37 |
| schnitz | copy to clipboard? | 00:38 |
| delt | here's someone else using it: http://i.imgur.com/k9Rvm0f.png | 00:39 |
| delt | nah, save to file | 00:39 |
| schnitz | ok | 00:39 |
| schnitz | now? | 00:39 |
| delt | oh - first select Greybird-mac in the window manager settings | 00:40 |
| schnitz | sure | 00:40 |
| delt | then run xfce4-screenshooter, grab whole screen, save | 00:40 |
| schnitz | donw | 00:40 |
| schnitz | done | 00:40 |
| delt | enter, say, /tmp/screen.png | 00:40 |
| delt | then in irc, /dcc send delt /tmp/screen.png (that will send me the file) | 00:40 |
| schnitz | saved it on my desktop | 00:40 |
| schnitz | ah cool | 00:41 |
| delt | ok, now /dcc send delt ~/Desktop/filename.png | 00:41 |
| delt | or you can use xchat's GUI to do the same, i'm not really familiar with it... i think, right click on my name, then send file....? | 00:41 |
| delt | i'm more of a command line kind of guy (: | 00:41 |
| schnitz | funny | 00:42 |
| schnitz | error 17: File Already Exists | 00:42 |
| delt | uh wut.. when trying to send? | 00:42 |
| schnitz | after the DCC command, yes | 00:42 |
| schnitz | called it test.png | 00:42 |
| delt | so, /dcc send delt ~/Desktop/test.png | 00:43 |
| delt | gives you an error? | 00:43 |
| schnitz | nono | 00:43 |
| schnitz | you should have it now | 00:43 |
| schnitz | that was my mistake, nevermind | 00:44 |
| delt | oops, can you send again :D | 00:44 |
| delt | sorry | 00:44 |
| schnitz | sure | 00:44 |
| delt | ...and that was -my- mistake, hehehee | 00:44 |
| delt | ah, ok got it | 00:44 |
| schnitz | don't be confused, its in german | 00:44 |
| delt | bist du eigentlich aus deutschland? | 00:45 |
| delt | ich wohnte 4 jahren in deutschland als ich kleines kind war :D | 00:46 |
| delt | mein Vater war in der Luftwaft von Kanada, und er wurde 4 Jahren in Lahr, West-Deutschland gestellt | 00:46 |
| delt | kurtz nach ich geboren war | 00:47 |
| delt | aber seit langem hab ich mit niemand auf deutsch gesprochen | 00:47 |
| delt | ich bin aus Montréal, Canada (ursprunglich in Ottawa geboren) | 00:48 |
| schnitz | cool :-) | 00:49 |
| schnitz | ja ich bin aus Muenchen | 00:49 |
| schnitz | und habe freunde in Montreal | 00:49 |
| delt | wirklich :D | 00:49 |
| schnitz | munichagain.tumblr.com | 00:49 |
| delt | ich guck es jetzt... | 00:49 |
| schnitz | mach mal | 00:49 |
| delt | guck oder schau? welches wuerde man sagen? | 00:50 |
| schnitz | beides geht | 00:50 |
| delt | ah ok | 00:50 |
| delt | weird, dein bildschirm zeigt das default-thema für ubuntu-studio, wenn "Greybird-mac" ausgewahlt ist | 00:52 |
| delt | oh i forgot, sorry.... | 00:52 |
| delt | !de | delt | 00:52 |
| ubottu | delt, please see my private message | 00:52 |
| delt | !de | schnitz | 00:53 |
| ubottu | schnitz: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 00:53 |
| schnitz | haha... | 00:53 |
| delt | yeah just realized, sorry :3 | 00:53 |
| schnitz | ubottu: duuuude... delt got my into german :-) | 00:53 |
| ubottu | schnitz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 00:53 |
| schnitz | sure sure | 00:54 |
| delt | hehe | 00:54 |
| schnitz | gotta love bots | 00:54 |
| delt | yeah my fault (: | 00:54 |
| schnitz | no prob | 00:54 |
| delt | anyway, when you select another theme, it shows on screen? | 00:54 |
| delt | can you type in a terminal: find /usr/share/themes > /tmp/find.txt and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/find.txt please? | 00:56 |
| schnitz | yes any other themes switches on immediately | 00:57 |
| schnitz | willdo | 00:57 |
| delt | (oh, that will overwrite any file named "find.txt" in your /tmp directory, sorry should have mentioned :3 | 00:59 |
| delt | ) | 00:59 |
| schnitz | no worries, nothing there.... | 01:00 |
| schnitz | I have nothing sensitive on my ubuntu system | 01:00 |
| schnitz | I'm just checking it out, a still have 2 serious hardware issues | 01:00 |
| schnitz | grafics and soundcard | 01:00 |
| delt | what sound card? | 01:01 |
| schnitz | RME Hammerfall DSP | 01:01 |
| delt | usb? | 01:01 |
| schnitz | its a special card for multi-track recording, now on PCI | 01:01 |
| schnitz | but there I think the card has a real issue | 01:01 |
| schnitz | OR my system has not enough power | 01:02 |
| delt | ah ok.... yeah you're in the right channel for that right here, but i'm not familiar with that card | 01:02 |
| schnitz | only using 300W right now | 01:02 |
| schnitz | I had a long discussion on that before | 01:02 |
| schnitz | :-) | 01:02 |
| schnitz | enough trouble-shooting for today | 01:03 |
| schnitz | but its fun | 01:03 |
| schnitz | not real result, but met lots of nice people :-))) | 01:03 |
| delt | anyway, can you do in terminal cd /usr/share/themes; tar czvf /tmp/grey.tar.gz and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/grey.tar.gz for me? | 01:03 |
| schnitz | sure, hang on | 01:03 |
| delt | the "find" result looks ok to me.. | 01:04 |
| schnitz | r u sure | 01:05 |
| schnitz | archive empty? | 01:05 |
| delt | uh.... *duh* | 01:05 |
| delt | anyway, can you do in terminal cd /usr/share/themes; tar czvf /tmp/grey.tar.gz Greybird-mac and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/grey.tar.gz for me? | 01:05 |
| delt | sorry | 01:05 |
| delt | :) | 01:05 |
| schnitz | that makes more sense | 01:05 |
| delt | indeed :3 | 01:06 |
| delt | i aer stipud | 01:06 |
| delt | :D | 01:06 |
| delt | the whole directory matches -exactly- plus i just tested the files you sent back to me, and i get the theme on my screen | 01:08 |
| delt | [pts/14][user@phobos]:/tmp/asdfasdf$ diff ./Greybird-mac/ /usr/share/themes/Greybird-mac/ | 01:09 |
| delt | (shows only common subdirectories) | 01:09 |
| delt | can you try: xfwm4 --version and tell me what the first line says? | 01:10 |
| delt | should be something similar to: This is xfwm4 version 4.11.1 (revision 2b800f4) for Xfce 4.10 | 01:10 |
| schnitz | ok | 01:11 |
| delt | hint: in most terminals, triple click selects whole lines | 01:11 |
| schnitz | This is xfwm4 version 4.11.2 (revision cfa3c47) for Xfce 4.10 | 01:11 |
| schnitz | Released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. | 01:11 |
| schnitz | Compiled against GTK+-2.24.24, using GTK+-2.24.25. | 01:11 |
| delt | then you can middle click in xchat's input box to paste | 01:11 |
| delt | ok.... what if you logout and then log back in? | 01:12 |
| delt | (with the Greybird-mac theme selected in window manager settings) | 01:12 |
| schnitz | lemme check | 01:13 |
| schnitz | nope | 01:15 |
| delt | normally you can stick themes in your /usr/share/themes and just select them ...they take effect immediately, at least for xfce's window manager | 01:15 |
| schnitz | Greybird-mac is still selected | 01:15 |
| schnitz | but still the same default style | 01:15 |
| delt | weird thing is, here's someone in france testing it: http://i.imgur.com/k9Rvm0f.png ...so it works at least for "some" people | 01:16 |
| schnitz | after logging off / on | 01:16 |
| schnitz | well well... I'm off now | 01:16 |
| schnitz | been great | 01:16 |
| schnitz | thanks for all help... I learned ALOT | 01:16 |
| delt | :D | 01:16 |
| schnitz | sure to see you around, I'll be back | 01:16 |
| delt | okie..... auf weiderchatten :D | 01:17 |
| schnitz | until I get my linux recording suite working I feels its gonna take a while and I'll be here :-) | 01:17 |
| schnitz | gruesse aus muenchen | 01:17 |
| schnitz | bye | 01:17 |
| delt | well, i'll be here to help the best i can... but i think holstein will do a better job for most things | 01:17 |
| schnitz | cool, cu :-) | 01:18 |
| delt | oh --- can you try one last thing? | 01:18 |
| delt | fck | 01:18 |
| schnitz | hey delt... | 16:50 |
| delt | Hello | 17:29 |
| delt | sorry i just came back home | 17:30 |
| schnitz | no rush... rehi delt | 17:43 |
| delt | hewwo :D | 17:53 |
| Barkhlet | anyone on? | 23:54 |
| Barkhlet | Looking for some help for days, my job is on the line because of this freaking distro | 23:57 |
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