[00:00] actual partition [00:00] ok.... so if you run "glxgears" from a terminal window what do you get? [00:00] lemme check [00:00] not installed [00:00] shall I apt-get it? [00:01] apt-get install mesa-utils? [00:01] should come with your opengl installation [00:01] nah, not mesa... that's software rendering iirc [00:02] well thats what the terminal suggested ;-) [00:02] no worries, this is fun [00:03] like i said, i'm much more familiar with nvidia cards, since that's what i've always been using. so i can't be of much help for ati stuff [00:03] no prob, thanks for your help in any case! [00:04] I do appreciate [00:05] tell me what you think of the osx style theme i just hacked up together :D ---> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/greybird-mac.png [00:05] ok [00:05] well, it's just greybird with modified title bar buttons, and a slightly thicker bottom bar that's easier to grab to resize windows that don't have a "resize handle" [00:06] looks good to me [00:06] looks like MaxOSX [00:06] Mac [00:06] sorry [00:06] good job [00:07] it still lets you position the buttons like you want them, i just have to write a spec file that fixes them into place like in the real osx =) [00:07] However, you will hate me for this, I'm kinda nuts, I like the REALLY old Windows style, like XP or ever earlier, Win2000 [00:07] anyway here it is ---> http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/greybird-mac.tar.gz [00:07] just untar it to your /usr/share/themes [00:07] oh yes I will do that [00:08] then in the settings manager -> window manager, under the "style" tab select "Greybird-mac" [00:10] for example, if you use firefox and it downloaded the file to your "Downloads" directory... [00:10] haha I do not have the rights to do so :-) [00:10] yeah yeah did that [00:10] yeah, by default it shouldn't let you [00:10] so? oh... sudo? [00:10] so, first you'd go to /usr/share/themes [00:10] cd /usr/share/themes [00:10] terminal... [00:10] then with sudo, untar the file that's in your download directory [00:11] sudo tar xvf ~/Downloads/greybird-mac.tar.gz [00:11] note that in the terminal, the TAB key is your friend :D [00:11] geeeh this is nuts, but yes I'll do that [00:11] found out about the TAB :-) [00:11] you just have to type the beginning of a file, command, etc. and press TAB, the shell (by default bash) will try to auto-complete it for you. [00:12] ...or, if you're more comfortable with GUI stuff, there's surely a way to drag-n-drop with the mouse [00:14] a trick i use, is that i have my main user account added to the group "root" ....ie. in my /etc/group, the line that starts with "root", usually the first line, contains my username at the end [00:14] so if i want my user to have permission to write somewhere, i just activate the group write permision [00:14] permission** [00:14] weird got a FileNotFound [00:14] under terminal [00:14] cd /usr/share/themes [00:14] the package is in download though [00:14] yeah [00:15] I'm in themes [00:15] tar xvf ~/DowPRESS TAB/grePRESS TAB AGAIN [00:15] ok... [00:15] wait a sec [00:15] when you press tab, it should auto-complete the file, directory, etc. [00:15] nope [00:15] the first tab won't even complete to downloads [00:15] oh, it's case sensitive: "downloads" is not the same as "Downloads" [00:16] ah [00:16] nope [00:16] that's one thing about unix systems that's both very useful, but sometimes a pain in the ass [00:16] same [00:16] maybe 'cos I'm root? [00:16] oh *duh* [00:16] in bash, ~ is a shorthand for your home directory [00:17] and ~user is a shorthand for the home directory of "user" [00:17] ahhh [00:17] so -myUserName/Down... does is [00:17] it [00:17] lemme check [00:18] ~ (tilde) not - (dash) [00:18] yep [00:18] gotit! [00:18] and it should also work just with ~ and not ~yourusername because in ubuntu by default, sudo doesn't modify the $HOME variable [00:19] yep, ~ on a U.S. keyboard layout is shift + the button just under ESC [00:20] ok got it unpacked [00:20] thansk for your patience :-) [00:20] :D [00:20] so where can I activate it again...? [00:20] hey, i learned the basics too before :D [00:21] switch to your cool theme? [00:21] settings manager, click "window manager" [00:21] and the theme is called "Greybird-mac" [00:22] i just hacked that together (simply modified Greybird actually) because i was futzing around with osx lately, and got used to clicking in the top left to close a window =) [00:22] yeah clicked on it [00:22] but... [00:23] but...? [00:23] do I need to re-login? [00:23] no, should take effect immediately [00:23] didn't change [00:23] lemme check again [00:23] oh weird [00:24] all the other themes change immediately [00:24] just yours doesn't [00:24] uh wut :D [00:24] it stay Greybird [00:24] I had greybird [00:24] before [00:24] and I clicked on it [00:24] on yours... [00:24] and its still greybird [00:24] exactly the same [00:24] Greybird-mac appears in the list? [00:24] r u sure your theme is portable, yes appears! [00:25] right below greybird there is your greybird-mac [00:25] can you send a screenshot? [00:26] nope,. no e-mail client installed, but if you wait a little, I'll set it up [00:26] it looks just like greybird, u can image [00:26] bah, you know how to send files on irc? [00:26] imagine [00:26] actually no [00:27] but the buttons on the top, they're colored circles, instead of grey X _ and [] ? [00:27] nono [00:27] would have noticed [00:27] normal grey X, etc. [00:28] so [00:28] looking back at the terminal window [00:28] I can see that it did unpack lots of PNGs [00:28] I guess those are the ones that will make it look like MACOSX [00:29] maybe there is a path problem [00:29] yeah, works for several ppl in #xfce... [00:29] lemme check my file again [00:29] sure it does [00:30] just unpacked it to another dir, seems to work fine.... [00:31] hmmm.... [00:32] asking the guys on #xfce to send me a screenshot to make sure =) [00:32] :-) [00:33] anyway.... not very important. [00:33] damn I still need to get those drivers to run, that flickering screen is killing me [00:33] still cool though [00:33] can you paste the output of this command: ls -d /usr/share/themes/Grey* [00:34] (just select in the terminal and middle-click in irc) [00:35] just don't paste pages and pages of stuff in the channel :D [00:36] /usr/share/themes/Greybird /usr/share/themes/Greybird-mac [00:36] /usr/share/themes/Greybird-compact [00:36] ok, so it extracted to the right place. [00:36] yeah [00:37] kinda nutty, ha? [00:37] weird!! [00:37] yep [00:37] try taking a screenshot: xfce4-screenshooter [00:38] copy to clipboard? [00:39] here's someone else using it: http://i.imgur.com/k9Rvm0f.png [00:39] nah, save to file [00:39] ok [00:39] now? [00:40] oh - first select Greybird-mac in the window manager settings [00:40] sure [00:40] then run xfce4-screenshooter, grab whole screen, save [00:40] donw [00:40] done [00:40] enter, say, /tmp/screen.png [00:40] then in irc, /dcc send delt /tmp/screen.png (that will send me the file) [00:40] saved it on my desktop [00:41] ah cool [00:41] ok, now /dcc send delt ~/Desktop/filename.png [00:41] or you can use xchat's GUI to do the same, i'm not really familiar with it... i think, right click on my name, then send file....? [00:41] i'm more of a command line kind of guy (: [00:42] funny [00:42] error 17: File Already Exists [00:42] uh wut.. when trying to send? [00:42] after the DCC command, yes [00:42] called it test.png [00:43] so, /dcc send delt ~/Desktop/test.png [00:43] gives you an error? [00:43] nono [00:43] you should have it now [00:44] that was my mistake, nevermind [00:44] oops, can you send again :D [00:44] sorry [00:44] sure [00:44] ...and that was -my- mistake, hehehee [00:44] ah, ok got it [00:44] don't be confused, its in german [00:45] bist du eigentlich aus deutschland? [00:46] ich wohnte 4 jahren in deutschland als ich kleines kind war :D [00:46] mein Vater war in der Luftwaft von Kanada, und er wurde 4 Jahren in Lahr, West-Deutschland gestellt [00:47] kurtz nach ich geboren war [00:47] aber seit langem hab ich mit niemand auf deutsch gesprochen [00:48] ich bin aus Montréal, Canada (ursprunglich in Ottawa geboren) [00:49] cool :-) [00:49] ja ich bin aus Muenchen [00:49] und habe freunde in Montreal [00:49] wirklich :D [00:49] munichagain.tumblr.com [00:49] ich guck es jetzt... [00:49] mach mal [00:50] guck oder schau? welches wuerde man sagen? [00:50] beides geht [00:50] ah ok [00:52] weird, dein bildschirm zeigt das default-thema für ubuntu-studio, wenn "Greybird-mac" ausgewahlt ist [00:52] oh i forgot, sorry.... [00:52] !de | delt [00:52] delt, please see my private message [00:53] !de | schnitz [00:53] schnitz: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [00:53] haha... [00:53] yeah just realized, sorry :3 [00:53] ubottu: duuuude... delt got my into german :-) [00:53] schnitz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:54] sure sure [00:54] hehe [00:54] gotta love bots [00:54] yeah my fault (: [00:54] no prob [00:54] anyway, when you select another theme, it shows on screen? [00:56] can you type in a terminal: find /usr/share/themes > /tmp/find.txt and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/find.txt please? [00:57] yes any other themes switches on immediately [00:57] willdo [00:59] (oh, that will overwrite any file named "find.txt" in your /tmp directory, sorry should have mentioned :3 [00:59] ) [01:00] no worries, nothing there.... [01:00] I have nothing sensitive on my ubuntu system [01:00] I'm just checking it out, a still have 2 serious hardware issues [01:00] grafics and soundcard [01:01] what sound card? [01:01] RME Hammerfall DSP [01:01] usb? [01:01] its a special card for multi-track recording, now on PCI [01:01] but there I think the card has a real issue [01:02] OR my system has not enough power [01:02] ah ok.... yeah you're in the right channel for that right here, but i'm not familiar with that card [01:02] only using 300W right now [01:02] I had a long discussion on that before [01:02] :-) [01:03] enough trouble-shooting for today [01:03] but its fun [01:03] not real result, but met lots of nice people :-))) [01:03] anyway, can you do in terminal cd /usr/share/themes; tar czvf /tmp/grey.tar.gz and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/grey.tar.gz for me? [01:03] sure, hang on [01:04] the "find" result looks ok to me.. [01:05] r u sure [01:05] archive empty? [01:05] uh.... *duh* [01:05] anyway, can you do in terminal cd /usr/share/themes; tar czvf /tmp/grey.tar.gz Greybird-mac and then in irc /dcc send delt /tmp/grey.tar.gz for me? [01:05] sorry [01:05] :) [01:05] that makes more sense [01:06] indeed :3 [01:06] i aer stipud [01:06] :D [01:08] the whole directory matches -exactly- plus i just tested the files you sent back to me, and i get the theme on my screen [01:09] [pts/14][user@phobos]:/tmp/asdfasdf$ diff ./Greybird-mac/ /usr/share/themes/Greybird-mac/ [01:09] (shows only common subdirectories) [01:10] can you try: xfwm4 --version and tell me what the first line says? [01:10] should be something similar to: This is xfwm4 version 4.11.1 (revision 2b800f4) for Xfce 4.10 [01:11] ok [01:11] hint: in most terminals, triple click selects whole lines [01:11] This is xfwm4 version 4.11.2 (revision cfa3c47) for Xfce 4.10 [01:11] Released under the terms of the GNU General Public License. [01:11] Compiled against GTK+-2.24.24, using GTK+-2.24.25. [01:11] then you can middle click in xchat's input box to paste [01:12] ok.... what if you logout and then log back in? [01:12] (with the Greybird-mac theme selected in window manager settings) [01:13] lemme check [01:15] nope [01:15] normally you can stick themes in your /usr/share/themes and just select them ...they take effect immediately, at least for xfce's window manager [01:15] Greybird-mac is still selected [01:15] but still the same default style [01:16] weird thing is, here's someone in france testing it: http://i.imgur.com/k9Rvm0f.png ...so it works at least for "some" people [01:16] after logging off / on [01:16] well well... I'm off now [01:16] been great [01:16] thanks for all help... I learned ALOT [01:16] :D [01:16] sure to see you around, I'll be back [01:17] okie..... auf weiderchatten :D [01:17] until I get my linux recording suite working I feels its gonna take a while and I'll be here :-) [01:17] gruesse aus muenchen [01:17] bye [01:17] well, i'll be here to help the best i can... but i think holstein will do a better job for most things [01:18] cool, cu :-) [01:18] oh --- can you try one last thing? [01:18] fck [16:50] hey delt... [17:29] Hello [17:30] sorry i just came back home [17:43] no rush... rehi delt [17:53] hewwo :D [23:54] anyone on? [23:57] Looking for some help for days, my job is on the line because of this freaking distro