[08:31] <ararob> i'm trying to delete a meny entry in wine->programs , when i look in wine.desktop, i don't see the subentries under ->program
[08:32] <ararob> s/meny/menu/
[08:54] <silverlion> ararob : try "menulibre" without the quotes. you have to install it via synaptic
[08:54] <silverlion> with that you can edit/delete/enter anything in the menu
[08:58] <ararob> ok
[09:02] <ararob> silverlion, it worked, thanks
[09:02] <silverlion> ararob : you are welcome ;)
[09:16] <janolap1> hi ! I have accidently formatted my boot/grub/xp partition (table partition rewrite). Can anyone help me using testdisk to recover my data and system. I'm currently on Lubuntu on the same PC.
[09:16] <janolap1> Can anyone assist me on the recovery process ?
[09:18] <janolap1> I'm quite sure the original partitions were : /dev/sda1 (ntfs+boot), /dev/sda2 (ntfs), /dev/sda3 (extended for linux), etc for linux part
[09:23] <silverlion> janolap1 : that's way over my knowledge ... sorry
[09:23] <janolap1> ok, thanks.
[09:24] <janolap1> ok, I'll just reinstall grub, and try a datarecovery with photorec...
[09:30] <nanogeek> Janolap1 how can I install grub?
[09:32] <janolap1> nanogeek : as far as I know, you can do : sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:33] <janolap1> if /dev/sda is your boot disk.
[09:33] <janolap1> But I'm not really a expert in thoses tasks
[09:34] <janolap1> nanogeek : why do you want to install it ?
[09:48] <janolap1> nanogeek : why do you want to install it ?
[09:49] <nanogeek> i just want to know how to do it
[12:22] <Freed309> Hi.
[12:23] <Freed309> I'm having an issue with my Wireless. Occasionally the hardware switch goes orange by itself and all wireless connections die. Before this used to happen when I left the computer on sleep. Now it's happening without warning.
[12:24] <Freed309> I'm using Lubuntu 14.04
[12:26] <Freed309> Originally when I killed the process, it would work. But now the process simply refuses to be killed.
[12:31] <Freed309> Anyone here?
[12:33] <testdr> Freed309: what process did you kill and does not work "killing" any more? network-manager?
[12:33] <Freed309> Yes.
[12:33] <Freed309> I killed that and modem manager. I thought Modem might be the parent
[12:33] <Freed309> But it restarted to
[12:33] <Freed309> *too
[12:33] <testdr> Freed309: you have to check the pid (process-id) because the network-manager will be restarted if not there
[12:34] <Freed309> I did.
[12:34] <Freed309> I was terminating them from the terminal
[12:34] <testdr> Freed309: thats what it is made for -- if you really want to stop network - you have to shutdown the service
[12:34] <Freed309> Using PiDs
[12:35] <Freed309> You're saying I should find the PiD for the service?
[12:35] <testdr> Freed309: first: how long did wireless work without problems? (until last update) Or did you have always problems (like said about sleep-status)?
[12:36] <Freed309> I always had them.
[12:36] <Freed309> I would simply kill the Network Manager and NM Applet
[12:36] <Freed309> Using the PiDs.
[12:37] <Freed309> Basically, I would open the Task manager, and then kill PiDs from the Terminal in Root.
[12:39] <testdr> Freed309: then you did wait to long - you should check the logfile (/var/log/syslog) about messages for wlan problems - and did you already check any hints (hard/software probs) about your wlan-hardware (chipset, vendor-product-id)?
[12:40] <Freed309> No, and should I show you the logfile?
[12:40] <Freed309> The thing is, I never used this laptop until recently.
[12:41] <Freed309> So whenever I would use it, I would ignore the problem.
[12:41] <testdr> Freed309: the syslog logfile could be very long -- you have to upload it to the pastebin-service and poste the link to the upload here if you cannot find the error/warn-messages about the network service (and its breaking)
[12:41] <Freed309> Pastebin is what I intended and yeah.
[12:43] <testdr> Freed309: then for this laptop - first get yourself a cable-twisted-pair for working internet-connection and make a full update (you did not say what version - 14.04?) - could be it will fix it .. or make it worse - but you need cable-connection or the update may disturbed
[12:44] <Freed309> I can't obtain a wired connection, and there seems to be several tar gz worth of logfiles.
[12:46] <testdr> Freed309: you have to get a working internet-connection for this laptop - you wont never get proper updates with a broken connection.  Check the last syslog (without gz) and maybe give some hardware-hints about the laptop, wlan-chipset or did you already look for any online hints to this hardware?
[12:47] <Freed309> Do you want to know what the Hardware is?
[12:47] <Freed309> Here's the recent one
[12:47] <Freed309> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9634537/
[12:47] <testdr> Freed309: yes - you did not check for any hints for it?
[12:48] <Freed309> Any hints as to why it wasn't working or?
[12:49] <Freed309> And this is the Wireless card itself: 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[12:49] <Freed309> From LSPCI.
[12:50] <Freed309> No I didn't.
[12:50] <testdr> Freed309: first quick question: why it looks (from the syslog) that the wlan is only valid for around 1 hour and dhcp needs a renew?
[12:50] <Freed309> I have no idea.
[12:51] <testdr> Freed309: the time of the dhcp-offer is setup in the router - who did it?
[12:51] <Freed309> Well, the person who installed the TWC Cable connection in my house.
[12:52] <Freed309> It works fine with my Windows system.
[12:52] <Freed309> That doesn't work
[12:52] <Freed309> Atm.
[12:53] <Freed309> Someone had the grand idea of sitting on it. :/
[12:54] <Freed309> Anyways. Before we go off into a tangent, I would have no idea how to change it, since our ISP doesn't allow you to modify Router settings.
[12:54] <testdr> Freed309: did you check even such video-hints?  Like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9wfFVjqXzw
[12:55] <testdr> video-title: How to fix Qualcom Atheros AR9485 problem under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:56] <Freed309> Well, was it for the situation I had, or a different one?
[12:57] <Freed309> It seems like his wasn't working at all.
[12:57] <Freed309> Mine is working, but it stops all of a sudden.
[13:00] <testdr> Freed309: open a terminal and run:   ping   -W 10   ip-number-of-your-wlan-router   (should be 192.168.0.1 from your syslog)
[13:00] <testdr> that runs a ping with a timeout of 10 seconds and should show when the network "falls asleep"
[13:01] <testdr> Freed309: if this constant ping (=network-traffic) will help - then you have to check the power-saving settings, maybe its set to disable the network and a wake-up will give you the probs (like a restart would do too).
[13:02] <Freed309> I have checked the settings, and there is nothing like that specified
[13:04] <Freed309> i found something though, I'm not sure if it's pertaining to this.
[13:05] <Freed309> testdr: In Power Info, NM is set to 0.2 in wakeup
[13:05] <Freed309> *wakeups
[13:10] <Freed309> testdr: Hello?
[13:13] <testdr> Freed309: no - you did check and you are shure nothing will help - i suggested to try the "ping-command" to not let network fall asleep and to prove it maybe the power-settings. And other online-hints for your hardware are not apropriate you think - so i cannot help, because i dont have this hardware myself to do my own checks.
[13:14] <Freed309> I did set up the Ping command
[13:14] <Freed309> Yeah, cause they don't apply to my situation.
[13:14] <Freed309> I think for some reason it just falls asleep
[13:15] <Freed309> And then it creates a Zombie Process.
[13:16] <testdr> Freed309: thats what you are shure about and why should i doubt what you say?  From the kernel-version of the laptop - its from the last updates and this proves there was a lot of data-transfer (more than 100MB) ?over this faulty wlan-connection.
[13:17] <Freed309> Yeah. Now what should I do to find why it's sleeping randomly?
[13:17] <testdr> Freed309: stopping network is done with "service".   Check in terminal the output of:   service networking    and use the hints
[13:17] <testdr> Freed309: scroll back in your irc-log and read my hint about using the ping-command
[13:18] <Freed309> Yeah, I'm using it
[13:18] <Freed309> It's still running.
[13:18] <Freed309> So what I should do, is see when it stops and then try to figure out why?
[13:18] <Freed309> Right?
[13:20] <testdr> Freed309: then you have to wait - if it wlan breaks now too or if this little wlan-traffic keeps it working . If so - you have to decide to disable the sleeping-mode (dont know if there are any hints about it), what some people may not want, if they need the short time of battery-uptime.
[13:20] <Freed309> I will disable it. I don't need sleep mode at all.
[18:27] <janolap1> Hi there, is there a way to add emblems to folders under lubuntu ? (I mean adding small sub-icons to the folder image)
[18:28] <ianorlin> janolap1: I haven't tried doint that and do not know how really to do that
[18:29] <janolap1> ianorlin : thanx, I know it exists under other windows managers...
[23:22] <janolap1> how can I upgrade Lubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 ?
[23:22] <wxl> janolap1: did you read the release notes?
[23:23] <janolap1> wxl : no...
[23:23] <teward> you should
[23:24] <wxl> yep
[23:24] <wxl> for i suspect you will find your answer there
[23:24] <wxl> and when i suspect, i mean "i know" XD
[23:24] <teward> ^ that
[23:25] <janolap1> no "apt-get upgrade" ?
[23:25] <teward> what planet are you from :P
[23:25] <teward> janolap1: apt-get upgrade only upgrades packages within the release
[23:25] <janolap1> there...
[23:25] <teward> never goes to the next release
[23:25] <teward> never has, never will
[23:25] <janolap1> sorry : dist-upgrade
[23:26] <teward> janolap1: same concept - apt-get dist-upgrade only upgrades packages within the release
[23:26] <teward> but packages that would get held by upgrade (kernel, wine, etc.) don't get updated
[23:26] <teward> s/don't/do/
[23:26] <teward> read the release notes
[23:26] <wxl> be nice teward :)
[23:27] <janolap1> this one : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu ?
[23:27] <teward> with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS still being relevant i believe
[23:27] <teward> wxl: i've been bashing my head against POODLE and SSLv3 for 4 hours i'm on edge
[23:27] <teward> it's an atypical time for me
[23:28] <teward> wxl: Lubuntu still has all the flavor-agnostic changes from the main Ubuntu changelog included as well right?
[23:28] <wxl> janolap1: naw, start at the basic ones https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_14.04_LTS
[23:28] <teward> (i.e. core changes)
[23:28] <wxl> teward: lubuntu is ubuntu
[23:28] <wxl> teward: tl;dr yes
[23:28] <teward> that's a yes :)
[23:29] <janolap1> ok, I wasn't reading the good ReleaseNotes ... That's simple now.
[23:30] <teward> janolap1: the Lubuntu release notes link to the base Ubuntu release notes
[23:30] <teward> there's a lot of flavor-agnostic changes that affect all the flavors and the main changelog does touch on those
[23:30] <teward> (like the kernel for instance)
[23:30] <wxl> main = lubuntu?
[23:33] <teward> main = Ubuntu in that statement
[23:33] <teward> since you just said lubuntu is ubuntu :P
[23:33] <wxl> huh they don't?
[23:33] <wxl> oh :/
[23:33]  * wxl slaps teward 
[23:33]  * teward returns the slap with a pulse blast from a dark-matter energy pistol
[23:38] <janolap1> trying it...