[01:31] <soee> Riddell: next happy user http://pastebin.com/WeMrHSyg :)
[04:52] <jose> ovidiu-florin: got an email bounce over here
[11:08] <Sergobot> Riddell: could you help me with gpg keys? I created one in Kubuntu, but need it in OSGeo. How to copy it?
[11:17] <yofel> Sergobot: see exporting and importing private keys on http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart/gpg/gpg-cs.html
[11:36] <yofel> sitter: what was causing the cgroup reaping on kci again?
[12:13] <sitter> yofel: schroot
[12:13] <sitter> well, schroot + lb/debootstrap
[12:15] <sitter> there's at least 2 issues at work ... schroot sometimes doesn't retain the cgroup it had which supposedly is due to suid magic or something ... and I think semi-regardless of that due to it being a schroot anything the ISO builds do can potentially change cgroups around
[12:18] <sitter> my plan is to move iso builds into a daemon-like constrcut possibly run as different user
[12:18] <sitter> that way chroot cannot bust the jenkin's cgroups
[12:19] <sitter> another option would be to give the user sudo access to lxc which I am very much not in favor of for the obvious security concern there
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:15] <kranzer> Riddell: hi, are you here?
[13:19] <Riddell> hi kranzer 
[13:24] <kranzer> Riddell: can you give any task?
[13:25] <Riddell> is there a new version of phonon gstreamer?
[13:25] <Sergobot> Riddell: Hi. Could you help me? I created my own PPA, uploaded package there, but build failed because dependies not satisfied.
[13:26] <Riddell> Sergobot: link?
[13:26] <kranzer> Riddell: I don't know
[13:26] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~sergobot256/+archive/ubuntu/marble-latest
[13:27] <Riddell> Sergobot: well yes kde-sc-dev-latest 4.12 isn't available
[13:27] <Riddell> Sergobot: where did you test build it?
[13:28] <Riddell> kranzer: yes there is, you can package this http://download.kde.org/stable/phonon/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4.8.2/
[13:28] <Sergobot> Riddell: In OSGeoLive, based on Trusty, in VM
[13:29] <Riddell> Sergobot: so work out where it's getting that package from
[13:29] <Riddell> and add it to your PPA
[13:29] <kranzer> Riddell: If I need help, can I ask you?
[13:30] <Riddell> kranzer: you can try but I may not be around much, I'm in holiday mode this week
[13:30] <kranzer> can you provide this task for melange?
[13:32] <Riddell> kranzer: https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/edit/google/gci2014/5816989368975360?validated
[13:33] <kranzer> where to get debian folder?
[13:33] <Sergobot> Riddell: where to get it?
[13:36] <Riddell> Sergobot: check on the OSGeoLive image what's in /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d
[13:36] <Riddell> it probably has some extra PPAs
[13:36] <Sergobot> Riddell: I fount it in repo, but there is too old version. When I built Marble I get it from somewhere and build was succesful, now I installed kde-sc-dev-latest from repository and Marble doesn't build. So, how to upload .deb file to my PPA.
[13:37] <Riddell> add those to your PPA dependency
[13:37] <Riddell> work out where that somewhere is
[13:37] <kranzer> Riddell: where to get debian folder?
[13:37]  * Riddell out
[13:37] <Riddell> kranzer: from existing package
[13:38] <kranzer> Riddell: could you give a link?
[13:54] <_Groo_> is there any experimental ppa for 14.12 backport to utopic yet?
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> _Groo_, do you mean this ? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[14:06] <_Groo_> BluesKaj_: no, for kf5, based on kubuntu-ci daily builds
[14:07] <_Groo_> BluesKaj_: it was being worked on FAIK
[14:09] <BluesKaj_> _Groo_, there is a kubuntu-ci weekly and daily snapshots here https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs#Kubuntu_Continuous_Integration_.28CI.29 , but I suppose you've already checked those
[14:10] <_Groo_> BluesKaj_: yep :)
[14:10] <BluesKaj_> looking for real blleders eh?
[14:10] <BluesKaj_> bleeders
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> I'm waiting for alpha2 or beta or whatever the 5.2 plasma offering will be named .. heard it was going to be released on Jan 16 then yesterday I read it ewasn't going to be out until Jan 27th ....anyway I'll wait til then to change over on this desktop
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> plasma 5 on laptop still worksok, but still somewhat restricted 
[14:17] <_Groo_> im using daily builds for months now
[14:17] <_Groo_> sometimes it hurts too :D
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> the laptop is the experimental machine here, this old desktop is my stable pc, it's also our media server so i have to keep it relatively stable
[16:50] <mitya57> Mirv: can you please copy all missing Qt modules and pyqt5 from experimental to landing-005 ppa?
[16:50] <mitya57> from Debian experimental, I mean
[17:12] <Peace-> hola
[17:12] <Peace-> peace and love , and happy holidays :D
[17:13] <Peace-> btw can someone tell me why the terminal emulator in dolphin doesn't read my bashrc ?
[18:39] <soee_> hey. i ask once but had no response, if debian has fix for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1328466 will ukbuntu use it also ?
[19:02] <yofel> soee_: yes
[19:38] <Mirv> mitya57: ok, syncing some of the missing. I'm away until 5th though, so I'll properly sync up existing with-delta packages only then. I wouldn't hold breath on landing 5.4.0 to archives since there are so many Ubuntu bugs filed against 5.4 that mostly no-one will look also until week 2 at earliest.
[19:39] <Mirv> Unity 8 throws a black screen currently on armhf with 5.4
[19:40] <Mirv> (possibly related to the earlier upstream crasher bug of having OpenGL ES2 device while Qt compiled with the new ES3 support)
[19:49] <Riddell> kranzer: did you get anywhere?
[19:56] <kranzer> Riddell: I've done the task, but it's still not in the melange
[19:57] <Riddell> https://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5816989368975360 yeah unapproved
[19:58] <Riddell> kranzer: got the files somewhere?
[19:58] <kranzer> Riddell: yeah
[19:58] <kranzer> Riddell: I've made that packages
[19:59] <Riddell> kranzer: where?
[19:59] <kranzer> Riddell: what where?
[20:00] <Riddell> kranzer: where can I get the files to review?
[20:00] <kranzer> Riddell: ahhh
[20:01] <kranzer> Riddell: how to push them to launchpad?
[20:02] <Riddell> kranzer: file a bug and attach them is one way
[20:02] <kranzer> сщгдв нщг пшму ьу ф дштл,
[20:03] <kranzer> Riddell: could you give me a link?
[20:08] <Riddell> kranzer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/+filebug
[20:09] <Sergobot> Riddell: could you help me with https://paste.kde.org/paxvuf7ws ?
[20:10]  * Riddell looks
[20:10] <EgorMatirov> hi Riddell, kranzer http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2014/5816989368975360 is approved btw.
[20:11] <Riddell> kranzer: quick grab it!
[20:11] <kranzer> Riddell: took
[20:11] <kranzer> EgorMatirov: thank you
[20:11] <Riddell> Sergobot: pastebin output of  quilt push
[20:12] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/pfsskmrws
[20:12] <Riddell> kranzer: assigned, you have 72 hours!
[20:13] <Riddell> Sergobot: quilt refresh
[20:13] <Riddell> Sergobot: it's just complaining about fuzz which means some of the version numbers changed
[20:13] <kranzer> Riddell: oh I'm trying to push .orig
[20:13] <Riddell> quilt refresh will update them
[20:13] <kranzer> Riddell: so slow...
[20:14] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/po4e4bnos
[20:15] <Riddell> Sergobot: "Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected" ah maybe the patch is now applied upstream and it's part of the .orig
[20:15] <Riddell> Sergobot: in which case just rm the file and delete it from debian/patches/series
[20:16] <kranzer> Riddell: pushed to comments
[20:16] <kranzer> Riddell: see it
[20:16] <Riddell> kranzer: where?
[20:16] <kranzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/+bug/1405957
[20:17] <Sergobot> Riddell: builds! 
[20:17] <Riddell> Sergobot: awooga!
[20:17] <Sergobot> :)
[20:18] <kranzer> Riddell: can you take a look?
[20:19] <Riddell> kranzer: hmm sorry it looks like you started with the wrong version
[20:20] <Riddell> kranzer: you started with the trusty version, you should have started with the latest vivid version
[20:20] <kranzer> can you give me alink for trusty?
[20:20] <kranzer> Riddell: oh, vivid
[20:20] <Riddell> yeah  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4:4.8.1-1ubuntu0
[20:21] <kranzer> Riddell: do I need just to change debian folder and rebuild?
[20:21] <yofel> note: pull-lp-source <source> <release> from ubuntu-dev-tools is really handy here
[20:26] <Riddell> kranzer: that's the way to start, then check there's no new files or other issues
[20:26] <kranzer> Riddell: okau
[20:27] <kranzer> Riddell: what format should I take?
[20:28] <kranzer> dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (quilt)'
[20:28] <yofel> keep that
[20:28] <kranzer> Riddell: cause last time I changed it to 1
[20:28] <kranzer> Riddell: and everything was ok
[20:28] <yofel> 3.0 (quilt) is the current default, stick to that unless you have a reason to change it
[20:29] <yofel> also, see the dpkg-source manpage
[20:29] <yofel> specifically the "SOURCE PACKAGE FORMATS" section
[20:30] <kranzer> yofel: could you give me full way to it?
[20:30] <yofel> huh? Open konsole and run 'man dpkg-source' ?
[20:31] <kranzer> yofel: so, I think that 1.0 is suitable
[20:31] <yofel> most likely yes, but as the manpage says:
[20:31] <yofel>        If you don't know what source format to use, you should probably pick either "3.0 (quilt)" or "3.0 (native)". See https://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0 for information on the deployment of those formats within Debian.
[20:31] <yofel> so stick to 3.0
[20:31] <yofel> (quilt)
[20:32] <Sergobot> Riddell: How to build just some packages, not all? 
[20:32] <Riddell> Sergobot: just some of the .debs? you can't
[20:32] <Riddell> Sergobot: after it has built once you can run  debuild -nc  to build it without clearing which will be much faster and  rm debian/foo.debhelper.log  to make sure foo.deb is rebuilt
[20:35] <Sergobot> Riddell: oh :(. I need to build just some .debs. I don't need Marble version with KDE, just Qt.
[20:35] <yofel> you can tell it to only build arch:all or only arch:any packages, but you can't tell it to do that
[20:36] <Sergobot> :(
[20:36] <yofel> AFAIK at least
[20:37] <kranzer> Riddell: hmmm, building didn't make an orig archive
[20:37] <yofel> Sergobot: or well, you cannot tell debuild/dpkg-buildpackage to do that, you *can* run the individual debhelper scripts by hand skipping the kde build - but that's probably too complicated
[20:38] <yofel> kranzer: orig is the upsteam tarball, you have to provide that
[20:39] <yofel> *upstream
[20:40] <Sergobot> yofel: I thought that to do it I need just change control file
[20:41] <yofel> well..... if you just need the debs for yourself, you can comment the others out in the control file, but you would also need to change debian/rules to not do the double-build
[20:41] <yofel> Sergobot: rather stick to Riddell's idea with -nc 
[20:42] <yofel> hm, wait, marble does no double-build, nevermind
[20:43] <Riddell> Sergobot: then remove them from debian/control
[20:43] <sitter> お早う
[20:43]  * yofel passes sitter a cup of coffee
[20:43] <sitter> <3
[20:43] <kranzer> Riddell: how to make an orig package?
[20:44] <Riddell> kranzer: download it from http://download.kde.org/stable/phonon/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4.8.2/ and rename to the right name
[20:44]  * sitter almost managed to put all of dpkg into a path that is not root without using chroot :O
[20:45] <kranzer> Riddell: and rename it to phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2.orig.tar.xz ?
[20:45]  * sitter would like to point out that uscan should be able to get the latest tar and rename it automagically
[20:54] <kranzer> Riddell: review it)
[20:59] <Riddell> kranzer: with an underscore gstreamer_4
[20:59]  * Riddell eating tea now back shortly
[21:00] <kranzer> Riddell: see, please, how I did it)
[21:07] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/p8oryl1mj
[21:07] <Sergobot> Could you help me with it?
[21:07] <Riddell> kranzer: looking
[21:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: hmm some header files moved
[21:09] <Riddell> Sergobot: do you have libphonon-dev installed?
[21:10] <Riddell> Sergobot: pastebin dpkg -S MediaObject
[21:11] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/puf9b5ojc
[21:11] <Riddell> kranzer: in debian/changelog fix version number to ubuntu1, add a changelog entry that explains what the change is.
[21:12] <Riddell> kranzer: why change the Replaces: abd Breaks: in debian/control ?
[21:12] <Riddell> kranzer: don't change debian/source/format to 1.0 keep it as 3.0 (quilt)
[21:12] <kranzer> Riddell: could you give me full list what to do?
[21:13] <kranzer> Riddell: it didn't compiled with 3.0
[21:13] <kranzer> compile*
[21:13] <Riddell> kranzer: that's all
[21:13] <Riddell> kranzer: it will compile with 3.0 if you have the .orig tar
[21:14] <Riddell> Sergobot: hmm, no idea
[21:14] <kranzer> okay, but now, there's no need to recompile?
[21:14] <Riddell> sitter: any ideas why Sergobot gets https://paste.kde.org/p8oryl1mj error ? he's compiling marble on trusty and has these installed https://paste.kde.org/puf9b5ojc  presumably something to do with the moving header file
[21:15] <Riddell> kranzer: you need to check it all compiles and installs
[21:15] <kranzer> okay
[21:19] <kranzer> Riddell: I made the control as it was but now there is another error
[21:19] <kranzer> Source: phonon-backend-gstreamer Section: sound Priority: optional Maintainer: Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org> Uploaders: Modestas Vainius <modax@debian.org>,  Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <lisandro@debian.org>,  Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> Build-Depends: automoc,                cmake (>= 2.8.6),                debhelper (>= 9~),                libasound2-dev [linux-any],           
[21:19] <kranzer> og sorry
[21:19] <kranzer> dpkg-source: error: unrepresentable changes to source dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b phonon-backend-gstreamer-4.8.2 gave error exit status 2
[21:20] <kranzer> Riddell: ^^
[21:21] <Riddell> kranzer: something has changed outside the debian/ directory
[21:21] <kranzer> Riddell: now it compiles
[21:22] <kranzer> there was just an additional folder
[21:22] <kranzer> i removed it
[21:22] <kranzer> Riddell: obj-***
[21:22] <sitter> Riddell: いや
[21:22] <kranzer> such like this
[21:22] <sitter> Riddell: is marlbe even finding phonon?
[21:23] <sitter> I find it entirely possible that the build is just broken if the optional dep phonon is not there
[21:23] <sitter> seems a bit weird
[21:23] <sitter> definitely not a header move though
[21:23] <sitter> phonon is a sane library 
[21:24] <Riddell> Sergobot: maybe put the full buildlog on the web somewhere we can see it
[21:28] <kranzer> Riddell: done!
[21:57] <sitter> the wordpress twenty fifteen theme is somewhat meh I have to say
[21:57] <Riddell> sitter: url?
[21:57] <sitter> http://twentyfifteendemo.wordpress.com/
[21:58] <Riddell> kranzer: still needs a changelog entry.  just tell me what you'd like it to be if you want for simplicity
[21:59] <sitter> http://i.imgur.com/iJM9Kpx.png
[21:59] <sitter> what this world needs is the VDG to make a wordpress theme xD
[21:59] <Sergobot> Riddell: https://paste.kde.org/p3oxh9dpl
[21:59] <Riddell> Sergobot: meh
[22:00] <kranzer> Riddell: I didn't undestand very much what you meam
[22:00] <Riddell> no not Sergobot!
[22:00] <kranzer> mean
[22:00] <Riddell> kranzer: in debian/changelog it should say what the change is
[22:00] <kranzer> Riddell: hmm how?
[22:00] <kranzer> Riddell: dch?
[22:01] <kranzer> Riddell: I didn't understand what to tell you?
[22:02] <Riddell> kranzer: in debian/changelog you have written "  * changelog"  this tells me nothing about what has happened with this upload
[22:02] <kranzer> Riddell: what do I need to write?
[22:03] <Riddell> kranzer: give me a sentence that says what you have changed
[22:03] <Riddell> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/p3oxh9dpl help at all?
[22:03] <kranzer> Riddell: how about: this package was updated to 4.8.2 ?
[22:03] <Riddell> kranzer: perfect
[22:04] <kranzer> Riddell: I have to rebuild again?
[22:04] <sitter> Riddell: -- Found Phonon: /usr/include/qt4  
[22:04] <sitter> that's why it's broken
[22:05] <sitter> could be a marble bug (or well, a bug in their FindPhonon script
[22:05] <sitter> )
[22:10] <Riddell> kranzer: uploading
[22:10] <kranzer> Riddell: 
[22:10] <kranzer> Riddell: stop
[22:10] <kranzer> Riddell: i wrote my name wrong
[22:10] <kranzer> Riddell: I did there Danile
[22:10] <kranzer> Riddell: it has to be Daniel
[22:11] <Riddell> kranzer: too late!
[22:11] <kranzer> Riddell: (((
[22:11] <Riddell> kranzer: but it doesn't matter
[22:11] <Riddell> kranzer: keep an eye on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phonon-backend-gstreamer/4:4.8.2-0ubuntu1 to check it all compiles
[22:12] <kranzer> Riddell: okay
[22:12] <Riddell> kranzer: attach that link to the melange task and I can close it
[22:13] <kranzer> Riddell: even not waiting for compiling is done?
[22:13] <Sergobot> Riddell: What should I do to fix the issue?
[22:13] <Riddell> Sergobot: no idea, do you want me to start an ec2 so you can work there and me and sitter can debug directly?
[22:14] <Sergobot> Riddell: okay
[22:14] <kranzer> Riddell: okay, attached
[22:14] <Sergobot> Riddell: but there should be Trusty
[22:17] <Riddell> kranzer: closed!
[22:18] <kranzer> Riddell: thank you very much)
[22:20] <kranzer> Riddell: are there any new tasks?
[22:21] <Riddell> Sergobot: ssh ubuntu@ec2-54-224-40-22.compute-1.amazonaws.com
[22:22] <Sergobot> Riddell: Permission denied
[22:22] <Riddell> Sergobot: you using this key? https://launchpad.net/~sergobot256/+sshkeys
[22:23] <Sergobot> Riddell: yes, it is in my ~/.ssh folder
[22:25] <Riddell> Sergobot: ok try now I've set the password to foobar
[22:25] <kranzer> Riddell: can you give me any other task?
[22:26] <Sergobot> Riddell: Permission denied (publickey).
[22:27] <Riddell> Sergobot: now?
[22:27] <Sergobot> Riddell: the same result
[22:30] <Riddell> Sergobot: now?
[22:32] <Sergobot> Riddell: Connected!
[22:43] <kranzer> Riddell: are you here?
[22:44] <Riddell> hi kranzer, I'm afraid that's all I can think of just now
[22:44] <kranzer> Riddell: do you mean, that there is no new task?
[22:45] <Riddell> kranzer: not from me jus tnow
[22:45] <kranzer> Riddell: what about tomorrow?
[22:45] <Riddell> kranzer: I'll still be on holiday mode all week so probably not
[22:46] <kranzer> Riddell: ohh my life is pain
[22:46] <kranzer> Riddell: )))
[22:52] <Riddell> gosh, didn't mean to cause him pain!
[22:52] <soee> Riddell: ping
[22:52] <Sergobot> Riddell: Sorry, I was need to reboot. I have some problems with Plasma 5. Five minutas ago appeared message that plasma shell stopped. I tried to restart it, but no effect. And recovery doesn't help. I already reinstalled Kubuntu two time because this error. Now I launched LiveCD And want to reinstall Kubuntu again
[22:52] <Sergobot> *minutes
[22:53] <Riddell> hi soee 
[22:53] <Riddell> Sergobot: :(
[22:53] <Sergobot> Riddell: Can you help me with this error?
[22:53] <Riddell> Sergobot: I'd try logging out and deleting .config/plasma* in preference to reinstalling
[22:55] <soee> Riddell: friend of mine did a few drafts for a page, a lot will change but generla concept for a frontpage main section is to have it very clear video + short description + button to download system, colors will change and teh few other things but we think about something like https://cloud.soee.pl/public.php?service=files&t=dddd0ce2684f545b1eef90881f51ca1f
[22:55] <soee> Riddell: what do you think
[22:56] <Riddell> soee: what's it for?
[22:56] <soee> Riddell: the page im working on :)
[22:57] <Riddell> soee: nicer to use ubuntu or oxygen font
[22:58] <soee> Riddell: under this what you see on first screen, there will be 4-5 interactive sections, we think about something like https://cloud.soee.pl/public.php?service=files&t=ded43f88ced0aa7b0b156eded440ffc4 - this is only draft thugh!
[22:58] <Riddell> "and KDE Plasma" doesn't mean much to anyone  "using the Plasma desktop by KDE" maybe
[22:58] <soee> Riddell: dont look at text or fonts ;) 
[22:58] <soee> its just a draft to show how some elements will be structured
[23:00] <soee> a lot, lot will change but we have to start with something ;)
[23:01] <Riddell> soee: ah right, lovely then :)
[23:01] <soee> we have 4 months to get it done, it will rock when we finish :D
[23:02] <soee> on one thing i need your (devs) opinions
[23:04] <soee> the first screen uses colors from the old wallpaper, Plasma5 uses different one and maybe next releasdes will use also different. My friend wanted to use the colors similiar to teh desktop you get when you install teh system. What do you think - should we go this way or use custom colors fro main page that have nothing common with desktop style?
[23:07] <Sergobot> Riddell: What does contain your ~/.config/plasmashellrc ?
[23:10] <Riddell> Sergobot: https://paste.kde.org/poizibara
[23:10] <Riddell> soee: it's nice to fit in with the desktop wallpaper, although the plasma 5.2 wallpaper is pretty bright
[23:12] <soee> ok we rethink it
[23:24] <sitter> maybe I suggest talking to the kde vdg?
[23:24] <sitter> seeing as our artwork is verbatim their artwork I am sure they'd have a thought or two on website matters relating to that xD
[23:26] <Riddell> mm
[23:36] <Sergobot> Riddell: Any ideas how to solve my problem? :)
[23:51] <Riddell> Sergobot: put it on the ec2 and I can take a look
[23:51] <Riddell> or get sitter to take a look
[23:51] <Riddell> not sure when I can take a look as I'm doing holiday stuff for the next few days