=== RNivelle is now known as RNeville | ||
shiggitay | hello | 04:32 |
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shiggitay | OKay so here's a Ubuntu question: is there any word of baytrail support in 15.04? | 04:32 |
shiggitay | Anyone | 04:34 |
shiggitay | ? | 04:34 |
shiggitay | I have a baytrail tablet, and I was able to get Kububtu 14.10 running, but I couldn't get audio working properly with the ChromiumOS driver/firmware, but it was super low audio at best | 04:35 |
shiggitay | if I was to make it too loud it'd distort horribly | 04:40 |
lotuspsychje | someone tested systemd speed yet if its faster boot then classic initd services? | 07:41 |
elfy | it's a bit faster than upstart here - but not using ssd, nor that bothered as I'm usually doing something else when it's booting | 07:42 |
lotuspsychje | elfy: how do you manage the services to enable/disable on systemd? | 07:44 |
lotuspsychje | now i have to disabled them manual with service.override | 07:45 |
elfy | I don't manage anything - just edit the linux line in grub so it uses systemd | 07:45 |
elfy | never been bothered or needed to disable anything | 07:45 |
lotuspsychje | elfy: but vivid has systemd as default right? | 07:46 |
elfy | no | 07:46 |
lotuspsychje | huh | 07:46 |
elfy | it might have systemd installed - but it does not boot with it by default | 07:46 |
lotuspsychje | will be at 16.04 then? | 07:47 |
elfy | afaik they're still looking at doing so in 15.04 | 07:47 |
lotuspsychje | kk | 07:47 |
lotuspsychje | ill wait a bit longer then, tnx for info | 07:47 |
elfy | welcome | 07:48 |
BluesKaj_ | Hey all | 13:10 |
RNeville | I have a file name of viber.deb how do I install on Ubuntu 14.04, pls | 15:36 |
RNeville | command line? | 15:37 |
elfy | dpkg -i | 15:38 |
Pici | RNeville: Also, the support channel is #ubuntu | 15:38 |
elfy | but anymore for 14.04 really needs #ubuntu | 15:38 |
elfy | indeed Pici :) | 15:38 |
* elfy not a touch typer ;) | 15:38 | |
RNeville | elfy: thx | 15:39 |
patdk-wk | man, 14.04 is old :) | 15:57 |
BluesKaj_ | 14.04 is LTS | 16:43 |
BluesKaj_ | !LTS | 16:43 |
ubottu | LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) | 16:43 |
patdk-wk | yes, and as this channel goes, that was like 9months ago it was booted out of here :) | 16:46 |
=== jayne_ is now known as jayne | ||
malina | heya... how to launch the cli of your installer from a chroot? | 23:26 |
malina | it's amazing how primitive the ubuntu installer is, lol for trying to be a automagic distro' :) | 23:26 |
k1l | for ranting best is to start a own blog ;p | 23:27 |
malina | unless, there is a debootstrap of the *server* versions, of vivid, (which I guess is a 'workaround', I would like to start the installer from the mounted squashfs (chroot). | 23:27 |
k1l | (so people trying to help others are not bothers to read that destructive stuff) | 23:27 |
malina | surely there is a way to do something like/bin/ubu-insteler? | 23:27 |
malina | this is a simple question , no need for blog ranting :x | 23:28 |
malina | are you saying this is not a help channel then? :) | 23:28 |
k1l | malina: i am saying with your ranting you are not motivating helpers to help you. | 23:29 |
malina | true.. then again, perhaps, I could pre-suppose, something like: "run dcli-installer" or something along those lines was going to be unlikely?? | 23:30 |
malina | <3 | 23:30 |
malina | (typos, due to not seeing the text I am typing) | 23:30 |
penguin42 | malina: The easy way to install ubuntu in a chroot is to use debootstrap | 23:30 |
malina | thank you enguin | 23:31 |
malina | yes.. but does the vivid deboot have an ioption for the server image? | 23:31 |
penguin42 | malina: It's just the set of packages you pick after the debootstrap | 23:31 |
malina | as I could only figure out vivid (and assumed desktop) , as i do not know deboot well.. when I ran it, and did all the extra editing and launched the image file (I am booting it from a image), it just started as the installer | 23:32 |
malina | (sorry, that was when I extracted the rootfs from the iso I mean) | 23:32 |
penguin42 | why did you extract a rootfs from the iso? | 23:32 |
penguin42 | malina: What is your host OS? | 23:32 |
malina | penguin, yes but the server image comes with a lot of preconfigured stuff. how would I know how to choose selections and apparmor prfoiles and so on for the server image? | 23:32 |
malina | it is arch | 23:32 |
malina | although I can run vivid vm's if that helps | 23:33 |
penguin42 | malina: get a deboostrap tar, untar it on arch and tell it where you want your chroot | 23:33 |
malina | done that | 23:33 |
penguin42 | malina: then inside that you should be able to install whatever packages you want | 23:33 |
malina | I just felt itnot a server image, but I guess then, I just do something like apt-get install ubuntu-server-base or so? | 23:33 |
malina | I had a crash fro past week (wine on the mobo, luckily thwrowing it into the bathtub worked as usual :p) so I forgot a bitwhat troubles I was having. | 23:34 |
malina | right.. so I will go back to debootstrap then, but I will just ask again | 23:34 |
penguin42 | malina: I think probably do a tasksel server | 23:34 |
malina | is there, or is there not.. a simple command to lauch a cli based install | 23:34 |
malina | launch , when chrooting intto the iso squashfs?> | 23:35 |
penguin42 | malina: I see you have a higher class problem from most of our visitors; they normally spill water or coke on their motherboard | 23:35 |
malina | LOL | 23:35 |
malina | <3 | 23:35 |
malina | yesh.. I also am experienced enough witht he wine, to quickly dsismantle and chuck into water.. | 23:35 |
penguin42 | oh, erm there is a debian installer, not sure how to run that in a chroot | 23:35 |
malina | and literally the motherboard knew to switch off straight away.. no burnt damages whatsoever.. :) | 23:35 |
malina | as in debian installer (d-i?) which runs ubuntu then yes? | 23:36 |
malina | it doesn't show up though :/ | 23:36 |
penguin42 | yeh I think so | 23:36 |
penguin42 | but not tried that; there used to be an 'alternate cd' to run that; not sure if it's possible to get that from the server cd or not | 23:36 |
malina | well, what runs the installer when one boots the iso then? | 23:37 |
penguin42 | I think that's ubiquity that's the pretty installer | 23:37 |
malina | I quickly edited my iso remastering from trusty /quantal to vivid a week ago, | 23:37 |
malina | but the iso is a bit quirky | 23:37 |
malina | so I need to torubleshoot it a boit more. | 23:38 |
malina | troubleshoot. | 23:38 |
penguin42 | can I suggest you get basics working before going for quirky? | 23:38 |
malina | basics are ewasy | 23:38 |
malina | I have several vivid images on vms, aI can rsync and so on | 23:38 |
malina | it is the installer which is very limited, my friend :) | 23:38 |
penguin42 | yeh the debian installer is much more flexible but you can also get yourself more lost in | 23:39 |
malina | rewritign the iso remastering to just make an iso from a vivid installation is ok too (although as I say, some things seemed to still break even if it built) but I will get back to that. it might be useful for ubutu users, right? (the basic stuff ) | 23:39 |
malina | ubiquity is also not on here btw. | 23:39 |
penguin42 | I can't see what you're trying to do | 23:39 |
malina | hmm.. | 23:39 |
* penguin42 grabs a vivid cd | 23:40 | |
malina | when I launch the vivid installer from a debootstrapped image file, it just launches the install mewnu and doesn't seem to accept me wishing to mount a image file (or partition for that matter0 to install to | 23:40 |
malina | ye.. maybe I am missing something but it really is much simpler on arch, if we extract the squash fs and chroot, we do one liner to install a system | 23:40 |
malina | after mounting a part/image file wtaever :) | 23:41 |
malina | it takes 3-5 mins to have a system running | 23:41 |
penguin42 | malina: I think there are ways to automate an install if you're rolling it out a lot; just not done it | 23:41 |
malina | ye.. it is slightly more particular than that. | 23:41 |
malina | anyway penguin42 : thanks.. I will just chav away at it | 23:42 |
malina | when I tried just rsyncing the rootfs on installer cd, I obviously just got launched into installer .. and NOW I think I rememebr.. when I debootstrapped, I lol copied the vmlinuz and initrd from the iso, and yet, the debootstrap iomage gave me a installer menu only | 23:43 |
malina | even if I rebuilt the intramfs! | 23:43 |
penguin42 | malina: Yeh the installer CD is not what you want to run off | 23:43 |
malina | that was it... debootstrap vivid = | 23:43 |
malina | no I mean debootstrap.. | 23:43 |
malina | I chrooted, did all the stuff I had to do to build the system, built the initramfs | 23:43 |
malina | and still the installer menu came up | 23:43 |
penguin42 | I'm confused, you said you were using a chroot, what are you trying to boot? | 23:44 |
malina | nvm.. IO will try debootstrapping again ! | 23:44 |
penguin42 | malina: I suggest you get yourself used to ubuntu before trying to do +1 stuff | 23:44 |
malina | ps. to answer the question..doing a apt-cache search ubuntu.*server | 23:45 |
malina | yileded no server candidate, hence why debootstrap still seemed to be | 23:45 |
malina | not working so well for a server image of vivid :) | 23:45 |
penguin42 | malina: I suggest you get yourself used to ubuntu before trying to do +1 stuff | 23:45 |
malina | hmm, I assume you ubuntu guys haven't yet made an iso remastering which works for vivid? | 23:45 |
malina | if not,, perhaps don't make +1s for devs before you got the hang of the basic stuff... like installers ,) | 23:46 |
malina | right back at ya love | 23:46 |
malina | anywho..I will solve it.. mwah.. happy new year :) | 23:46 |
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