=== RNivelle is now known as RNeville
[04:32] <shiggitay> hello
[04:32] <shiggitay> OKay so here's a Ubuntu question: is there any word of baytrail support in 15.04?
[04:34] <shiggitay> Anyone
[04:34] <shiggitay> ?
[04:35] <shiggitay> I have a baytrail tablet, and I was able to get Kububtu 14.10 running, but I couldn't get audio working properly with the ChromiumOS driver/firmware, but it was super low audio at best
[04:40] <shiggitay> if I was to make it too loud it'd distort horribly
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> someone tested systemd speed yet if its faster boot then classic initd services?
[07:42] <elfy> it's a bit faster than upstart here - but not using ssd, nor that bothered as I'm usually doing something else when it's booting
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> elfy: how do you manage the services to enable/disable on systemd?
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> now i have to disabled them manual with service.override
[07:45] <elfy> I don't manage anything - just edit the linux line in grub so it uses systemd
[07:45] <elfy> never been bothered or needed to disable anything
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> elfy: but vivid has systemd as default right?
[07:46] <elfy> no
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> huh
[07:46] <elfy> it might have systemd installed - but it does not boot with it by default
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> will be at 16.04 then?
[07:47] <elfy> afaik they're still looking at doing so in 15.04
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> kk
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> ill wait a bit longer then, tnx for info
[07:48] <elfy> welcome
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[15:36] <RNeville> I have a file name of viber.deb how do I install on Ubuntu 14.04, pls
[15:37] <RNeville> command line?
[15:38] <elfy> dpkg -i
[15:38] <Pici> RNeville: Also, the support channel is #ubuntu
[15:38] <elfy> but anymore for 14.04 really needs #ubuntu
[15:38] <elfy> indeed Pici :)
[15:38]  * elfy not a touch typer ;)
[15:39] <RNeville> elfy: thx
[15:57] <patdk-wk> man, 14.04 is old :)
[16:43] <BluesKaj_> 14.04 is LTS
[16:43] <BluesKaj_> !LTS
[16:43] <ubottu> LTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04)
[16:46] <patdk-wk> yes, and as this channel goes, that was like 9months ago it was booted out of here :)
=== jayne_ is now known as jayne
[23:26] <malina> heya... how to launch the cli of your installer from a chroot?
[23:26] <malina> it's amazing how primitive the ubuntu installer is, lol for trying to be a automagic distro' :)
[23:27] <k1l> for ranting best is to start a own blog ;p
[23:27] <malina> unless, there is a debootstrap of the *server* versions, of vivid, (which I guess is a 'workaround', I would like to start the installer from the mounted squashfs (chroot).
[23:27] <k1l> (so people trying to help others are not bothers to read that destructive stuff)
[23:27] <malina> surely there is a way to do something like/bin/ubu-insteler?
[23:28] <malina> this is a simple question , no need for blog ranting :x
[23:28] <malina> are you saying this is not a help channel then? :)
[23:29] <k1l> malina: i am saying with your ranting you are not motivating helpers to help you.
[23:30] <malina> true.. then again, perhaps, I could pre-suppose, something like: "run dcli-installer" or something along those lines was going to be unlikely??
[23:30] <malina> <3
[23:30] <malina> (typos, due to not seeing the text I am typing)
[23:30] <penguin42> malina: The easy way to install ubuntu in a chroot is to use debootstrap
[23:31] <malina> thank you enguin
[23:31] <malina> yes.. but does the vivid deboot have an ioption for the server image?
[23:31] <penguin42> malina: It's just the set of packages you pick after the debootstrap
[23:32] <malina> as I could only figure out vivid (and assumed desktop) , as i do not know deboot well.. when I ran it, and did all the extra editing and launched the image file (I am booting it from a image), it just started as the installer
[23:32] <malina> (sorry, that was when I extracted the rootfs from the iso I mean)
[23:32] <penguin42> why did you extract a rootfs from the iso?
[23:32] <penguin42> malina: What is your host OS?
[23:32] <malina> penguin, yes but the server image comes with a lot of preconfigured stuff. how would I know how to choose selections and apparmor prfoiles and so on for the server image?
[23:32] <malina> it is arch
[23:33] <malina> although I can run vivid vm's if that helps
[23:33] <penguin42> malina: get a deboostrap tar, untar it on arch and tell it where you want your chroot
[23:33] <malina> done that
[23:33] <penguin42> malina: then inside that you should be able to install whatever packages you want
[23:33] <malina> I just felt itnot a server image, but I guess then, I just do something like apt-get install ubuntu-server-base or so?
[23:34] <malina> I had a crash fro past week (wine on the mobo, luckily thwrowing it into the bathtub worked as usual :p) so I forgot a bitwhat troubles I was having.
[23:34] <malina> right.. so I will go back to debootstrap then, but I will just ask again
[23:34] <penguin42> malina: I think probably do a tasksel server
[23:34] <malina> is there, or is there not.. a simple command to lauch a cli based install
[23:35] <malina> launch , when chrooting intto the iso squashfs?>
[23:35] <penguin42> malina: I see you have a higher class problem from most of our visitors; they normally spill water or coke on their motherboard
[23:35] <malina> LOL
[23:35] <malina> <3
[23:35] <malina> yesh.. I also am experienced enough witht he wine, to quickly dsismantle and chuck into water..
[23:35] <penguin42> oh, erm there is a debian installer, not sure how to run that in a chroot
[23:35] <malina> and literally the motherboard knew to switch off straight away.. no burnt damages whatsoever.. :)
[23:36] <malina> as in debian installer (d-i?) which runs ubuntu then yes?
[23:36] <malina> it doesn't show up though :/
[23:36] <penguin42> yeh I think so
[23:36] <penguin42> but not tried that; there used to be an 'alternate cd' to run that; not sure if it's possible to get that from the server cd or not
[23:37] <malina> well, what runs the installer when one boots the iso then?
[23:37] <penguin42> I think that's ubiquity that's the pretty installer
[23:37] <malina> I quickly edited my iso remastering from trusty /quantal to vivid a week ago,
[23:37] <malina> but the iso is a bit quirky
[23:38] <malina> so I need to torubleshoot it a boit more.
[23:38] <malina> troubleshoot.
[23:38] <penguin42> can I suggest you get basics working before going for quirky?
[23:38] <malina> basics are ewasy
[23:38] <malina> I have several vivid images on vms, aI can rsync and so on
[23:38] <malina> it is the installer which is very limited, my friend :)
[23:39] <penguin42> yeh the debian installer is much more flexible but you can also get yourself more lost in
[23:39] <malina> rewritign the iso remastering to just make an iso from a vivid installation is ok too (although as I say, some things seemed to still break even if it built) but I will get back to that. it might be useful for ubutu users, right? (the basic stuff )
[23:39] <malina> ubiquity is also not on here btw.
[23:39] <penguin42> I can't see what you're trying to do
[23:39] <malina> hmm..
[23:40]  * penguin42 grabs a vivid cd
[23:40] <malina> when I launch the vivid installer from a debootstrapped image file, it just launches the install mewnu and doesn't seem to accept me wishing to mount a image file (or partition for that matter0 to install to
[23:40] <malina> ye.. maybe I am missing something but it really is much simpler on arch, if we extract the squash fs and chroot, we do one liner to install a system
[23:41] <malina> after mounting a part/image file wtaever :)
[23:41] <malina> it takes 3-5 mins to have a system running
[23:41] <penguin42> malina: I think there are ways to automate an install if you're rolling it out a lot; just not done it
[23:41] <malina> ye.. it is slightly more particular than that.
[23:42] <malina> anyway penguin42 : thanks.. I will just chav away at it
[23:43] <malina> when I tried just rsyncing the rootfs on installer cd, I obviously just got launched into installer .. and NOW I think I rememebr.. when I debootstrapped, I lol copied the vmlinuz and initrd from the iso, and yet, the debootstrap iomage gave me a installer menu only
[23:43] <malina> even if I rebuilt the intramfs!
[23:43] <penguin42> malina: Yeh the installer CD is not what you want to run off
[23:43] <malina> that was it... debootstrap vivid =
[23:43] <malina> no I mean debootstrap..
[23:43] <malina> I chrooted, did all the stuff I had to do to build the system, built the initramfs
[23:43] <malina> and still the installer menu came up
[23:44] <penguin42> I'm confused, you said you were using a chroot, what are you trying to boot?
[23:44] <malina> nvm.. IO will try debootstrapping again !
[23:44] <penguin42> malina: I suggest you get yourself used to ubuntu before trying to do +1 stuff
[23:45] <malina> ps. to answer the question..doing a apt-cache search ubuntu.*server
[23:45] <malina> yileded no server candidate, hence why debootstrap still seemed to be
[23:45] <malina> not working so well for a server image of vivid :)
[23:45] <penguin42> malina: I suggest you get yourself used to ubuntu before trying to do +1 stuff
[23:45] <malina> hmm, I assume you ubuntu guys haven't yet made an iso remastering which works for vivid?
[23:46] <malina> if not,, perhaps don't make +1s for devs before you got the hang of the basic stuff... like installers ,)
[23:46] <malina> right back at ya love
[23:46] <malina> anywho..I will solve it.. mwah.. happy new year :)