bduk | Morning everyone | 05:32 |
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nuvolari | o/ oh hi | 05:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | morning peeps | 06:12 |
nuvolari | o/ hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:16 |
nuvolari | everyone seems asleep still | 06:16 |
nuvolari | :P | 06:17 |
bduk | Anyone using tapatalk with this forum that can help me set it up? | 06:23 |
Kilos | morning all | 06:44 |
bduk | More Kilos | 06:48 |
Kilos | hi bduk | 07:01 |
bduk | Hoe gaan dit vanmore? | 07:02 |
Kilos | kop nie lekker vandag nie, en daar? | 07:02 |
bduk | Hoe so? Diekant net bietjie min gereen. | 07:03 |
Kilos | ai! die ding besluit self waneer dit wil pein | 07:04 |
bduk | Ai nie lekker nie | 07:04 |
Kilos | miskien van te veel buite werk gister | 07:05 |
Kilos | sal dink daaroor | 07:05 |
bduk | Hmmm dit kom van Sondag werk | 07:08 |
bduk | My ma se altyd 'n Sabat steek hou geen week | 07:09 |
Kilos | ja | 07:20 |
Kilos | plaas werk het nie sondae nie | 07:20 |
bduk | Ja dis waar | 07:23 |
bduk | Ek ken maar te goed | 07:24 |
=== Zarw is now known as Wraz | ||
theblazehen_ | hi | 09:43 |
Kilos | hi theblazehen_ | 09:46 |
theblazehen_ | Compiling stuff using a with a USB disk in USB1.1 mode.. | 09:54 |
theblazehen_ | And 2 GB of ram | 09:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mmm nice | 10:07 |
magespawn | good day all | 10:18 |
magespawn | and Kilos | 10:19 |
ThatGraemeGuy | phew, got to love LVM | 10:45 |
Kilos | hi magespawn ThatGraemeGuy , sorry was busy cooking | 10:49 |
Kilos | wb magespawn | 11:53 |
charl | good afternoon | 11:58 |
charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:58 |
Kilos | hi charl | 11:58 |
* Maaz flips the salt-timer | 11:58 | |
Kilos | Maaz: coffee please | 11:59 |
Maaz | Kilos: Okay | 11:59 |
magespawn | Maaz coffee please | 12:01 |
Maaz | magespawn: Yessir | 12:01 |
magespawn | Maaz large | 12:01 |
Maaz | In a beer mug just for you magespawn | 12:01 |
magespawn | Maaz ty | 12:02 |
Maaz | You are welcome magespawn | 12:02 |
magespawn | long day | 12:02 |
magespawn | ThatGraemeGuy: why? disaster recovery | 12:02 |
Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl, Kilos and magespawn! | 12:02 |
Kilos | Maaz: ty | 12:03 |
Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 12:03 |
charl | Maaz: thanks | 12:03 |
Maaz | charl: No problem | 12:03 |
charl | hi Kilos | 12:03 |
charl | hi magespawn | 12:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | magespawn: no, migrating from 2-disk RAID1 to 4-disk RAID10 without tearing down completely and rebuilding | 12:27 |
Kilos | sjoe | 12:33 |
magespawn | hi charl | 12:42 |
magespawn | ThatGraemeGuy: does LVM just allow you to change the raid type once the disk are installed? | 12:42 |
ThatGraemeGuy | not exactly | 12:46 |
ThatGraemeGuy | what i'm doing is a bit dirty | 12:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | I start with 2-disks, raid1 with lvm on top of the md device | 12:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | add 2 disks, build a new raid10 with only 2 devices & 2 flagged as "missing" | 12:47 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes, technically this is only a raid0 at this stage | 12:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then migrate the entire lvm vg from the old raid to the new | 12:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | remove the old raid from lvm | 12:48 |
ThatGraemeGuy | disassemble the old raid, and add its partitions to the new one, replacing the "missing" devices | 12:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the only downtime is 5 mins to add the 2 new disks, and then a quick reboot after doing some housekeeping | 12:49 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the second reboot is optional but i like to do it to ensure i didn't render it unbootable | 12:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | wouldn't want to realise that a few months down the line only, whenever the next reboot happens to occur | 12:50 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i should also mention that the data on this server is not critical, so i'm doing this without doing a proper backup first, which would normally be a big no-no | 12:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | in fact it is one of our backup servers that i'm expanding | 12:51 |
magespawn | does the raid then use the old information/partitions to rebuild the info across the raid? | 12:54 |
ThatGraemeGuy | mmmm i don't understand the question :-/ | 13:03 |
ThatGraemeGuy | at which stage do you mean? | 13:03 |
magespawn | you have two disk with info on them and two empty disks? | 13:04 |
magespawn | the original raid 1 and the new disks? | 13:04 |
ThatGraemeGuy | yes | 13:05 |
magespawn | so when all the hardware is added the raid should be four disks, the two new disks mirroring the original two? | 13:07 |
ThatGraemeGuy | no | 13:07 |
ThatGraemeGuy | here's a step by step, let me know where you don't follow | 13:07 |
ThatGraemeGuy | i add 2 disks | 13:07 |
magespawn | right | 13:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | wait before that even | 13:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the 2 original disks have 2 partitions each, a small one that is used in raid1 for /boot, and the rest another raid1 which is managed by lvm | 13:08 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then i add 2 disks and partition them exactly the same | 13:10 |
ThatGraemeGuy | the 2 small partitions on the new disks are added to the original raid1 that is mounted on /boot | 13:10 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so now you have a raid1 with 4 devices used for /boot | 13:11 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and a raid1 with 2 devices from the original disks | 13:11 |
ThatGraemeGuy | are you still with me? :) | 13:12 |
magespawn | yes | 13:13 |
ThatGraemeGuy | now i create a new md device, raid10 | 13:13 |
ThatGraemeGuy | configured it as a 4-device md, but with 2 component devices missing | 13:14 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 missing missing | 13:15 |
ThatGraemeGuy | or whatvever | 13:15 |
ThatGraemeGuy | so now i have a "raid10" device, which is actually only raid0 for now because of the missing devices | 13:16 |
ThatGraemeGuy | follow? | 13:16 |
magespawn | yes | 13:16 |
ThatGraemeGuy | right, then you do "pvcreate /dev/md2" | 13:16 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then "vgextend -v vg0 /dev/md2" | 13:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | and now LVM can use the new raid for the volume group vg0 | 13:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | still with me? | 13:17 |
ThatGraemeGuy | vg0 already existed, and was using the old raid device /dev/md1 | 13:18 |
magespawn | right | 13:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | cool | 13:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then you do "pvmove /dev/md1 /dev/md2" | 13:18 |
ThatGraemeGuy | this tells lvm to physically move the data to the new raid device | 13:19 |
magespawn | neat way of doing it | 13:19 |
magespawn | i am going to have to play around with that a bit | 13:19 |
ThatGraemeGuy | once that is done i tell lvm to stop using the old raid | 13:20 |
ThatGraemeGuy | at that point the old raid is unused, and lvm is living completely on the new raid | 13:20 |
ThatGraemeGuy | then i just stop/remove the old raid device, and add the 2 underlying partitions to the new raid10 device, and it starts rebuilding the md device | 13:21 |
bushtech | ThatGraemeGuy, I have often thought about taking my 2 drive Raid1 up to a 4 drive setup. Is it possible to have the OS setup separate on a small (ssd?)drive ie a 3 drive setup? Should simplify drive management | 13:22 |
bushtech | I fear my /boot drive failing | 13:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | sure you can do that | 13:22 |
ThatGraemeGuy | assuming you have enough sata ports, etc obviously | 13:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | but from a software perspective yes that's entirely doable | 13:23 |
bushtech | Aaah, good to know | 13:23 |
bushtech | Thanks | 13:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | np | 13:23 |
magespawn | ThatGraemeGuy: thanks for the lesson | 13:23 |
ThatGraemeGuy | you're welcome | 13:24 |
bushtech | yes, enough ports is an essential | 13:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | if i wasn't so lazy i'd do a nice blog post step-by-step kinda thing :-D | 13:24 |
magespawn | i have never worked with any type of raid, so it is good to have some insight | 13:24 |
ThatGraemeGuy | install virtualbox and start playing around | 13:25 |
ThatGraemeGuy | create some small virtual hard disks and build raid on them | 13:25 |
magespawn | that was a bit harsh, i just asked a question no need to disconnect me | 13:51 |
ThatGraemeGuy | hehe | 13:52 |
ThatGraemeGuy | didn't even see the question, fwiw | 13:52 |
Kilos | lol | 13:53 |
magespawn | software only supports com and lpt for printing, hardware only has usb for printing | 13:55 |
magespawn | how do i redirect the com to the usb? | 13:55 |
magespawn | in windows | 13:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | lol "in windows" | 13:56 |
ThatGraemeGuy | wrong channel :P | 13:56 |
magespawn | indeed thought i would just ask anyway | 13:57 |
magespawn | i'll take a stop through there at some point | 14:09 |
magespawn | home time later all | 14:16 |
Vince-0 | Yuss this place is empty | 14:19 |
Kilos | lol hiya Vince-0 | 14:32 |
Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 14:32 |
Kilos | hows things by you? | 14:32 |
Vince-0 | mkay, in the office bored as all hell | 14:32 |
Vince-0 | messing with irssi | 14:33 |
Kilos | bored isnt good | 14:33 |
Vince-0 | I tried my hand at running a Ruby app on Asterisk but meh | 14:33 |
Vince-0 | bad documentation is always a problem for newbs | 14:33 |
Vince-0 | now, I'm bored but at least its home time | 14:33 |
Kilos | good, dont be so scarce' | 14:34 |
Vince-0 | I have been a bit busy with stuffs - holiday, starting a company | 14:34 |
Kilos | compliments of the season to you too | 14:34 |
Vince-0 | have to travel to see friends, family, weddings | 14:35 |
Vince-0 | and to you | 14:35 |
Kilos | cool | 14:35 |
Kilos | starting your own company? | 14:35 |
Vince-0 | ya boet, can't be working for the man all my life | 14:35 |
Kilos | good | 14:35 |
Kilos | hard to get going though | 14:36 |
Vince-0 | did you manage to get anything out of that hardware ? | 14:36 |
Kilos | yip ty but most only accept windows | 14:36 |
Kilos | and the ram was a godsend | 14:36 |
Kilos | so added 512m to the 128 | 14:37 |
Kilos | hehe | 14:37 |
Vince-0 | I had to find some DDR-400 RAM for an old server | 14:37 |
Kilos | then gave that pc to my sis | 14:37 |
Kilos | oh my | 14:37 |
Vince-0 | who only mostly accepts windows? | 14:37 |
Kilos | there was only one 512 in the pile | 14:37 |
Kilos | the drives | 14:38 |
Kilos | 6 work with windows on | 14:38 |
Kilos | and i have kde on the 1TB but had to not use the first 100g | 14:38 |
Vince-0 | ooh, that stuffs probably been dropped a few times | 14:39 |
Kilos | lol | 14:39 |
Kilos | was fun working through them all | 14:39 |
Vince-0 | k, | 14:40 |
Vince-0 | I must be off - more InRealLife stuff to do | 14:40 |
Vince-0 | chat soon | 14:40 |
Kilos | go well | 14:41 |
Kilos | and ty again | 14:41 |
Vince-0 | kk | 14:41 |
Kilos | hi abmo1324 | 16:31 |
Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 16:31 |
abmo1324 | hi | 16:32 |
abmo1324 | i'm on the website and i noticed that there had not been any updates in a year... | 16:33 |
abmo1324 | wondered if there was still any life in here :-) | 16:33 |
Kilos | yes we are working on it at the moment | 16:35 |
Kilos | moving to a better server or something | 16:36 |
Kilos | but life and hols are keeping the guys busy | 16:36 |
abmo1324 | yeah... normal story | 16:37 |
Kilos | abmo1324: do you need any help or info? | 16:37 |
Kilos | ohi superfly | 16:38 |
abmo1324 | nope - just dropping in | 16:47 |
abmo1324 | catching up on almost a year of IRC-lessness | 16:47 |
Kilos | ouch thats bad | 16:49 |
Kilos | were you here a year ago? | 16:51 |
Kilos | with what nick? | 16:51 |
abmo1324 | no | 16:55 |
abmo1324 | just a sec | 16:55 |
Kilos | sjoe long sec | 16:56 |
Kilos | wb ambo | 17:01 |
ambo | thats better | 17:01 |
Kilos | tell us about yourself | 17:01 |
Kilos | im trying to grow this channel. have been for 4 years now i think | 17:02 |
ambo | well I used to run the za mirror | 17:03 |
Kilos | cool | 17:04 |
Kilos | they are linked to kenya now | 17:05 |
ambo | yeah - the one in za got pulled due to some performance complaints apparently | 17:05 |
ambo | but I don't have access to the hardware anymore... moved jobs | 17:06 |
Kilos | yeah it was bad so Symmetria let us join his mirrors | 17:06 |
Kilos | do you know him? | 17:06 |
ambo | very well yes | 17:06 |
Kilos | he has moved to kenya and got married | 17:06 |
ambo | he and I also admin'd mirror.ac.za together once upon a time ;-) | 17:07 |
Kilos | oh you know then most likely | 17:07 |
ambo | yup | 17:07 |
inetpro | good evening | 18:26 |
Kilos | hi inetpro | 18:27 |
inetpro | hmm... | 18:27 |
Kilos | what hmm...? | 18:27 |
inetpro | hello Kilos | 18:28 |
inetpro | netsplits as I walk in... not nice! | 18:28 |
Kilos | please tell me what you guys are doing to our website | 18:28 |
Kilos | moving it or what | 18:28 |
inetpro | nothing | 18:28 |
Kilos | eish | 18:29 |
Kilos | what was all the work for? | 18:29 |
inetpro | at least I have not had the energy to touch it since last time | 18:29 |
Kilos | thats what i want to know man | 18:29 |
Kilos | not what you did today | 18:29 |
Kilos | what is the whole plan | 18:29 |
inetpro | obviously we want a new website | 18:30 |
inetpro | simple as that | 18:30 |
Kilos | so is it going to move or just be fixed where it is | 18:30 |
Kilos | ek sukkel darem | 18:30 |
inetpro | it will have the same name and all | 18:30 |
Kilos | go on | 18:31 |
inetpro | doesn't matter where it's hosted, but probably on the same server as now | 18:31 |
Kilos | ai! sucking blood out of a stone again | 18:31 |
Kilos | i just want to know so i know what to tell peeps that ask | 18:32 |
inetpro | as far as I understand, the plan is to put a simple static site in place of a dynamic CMS | 18:34 |
Kilos | ok ill try remember that | 18:35 |
inetpro | just something plain and simple to avoid too much effort and high maintenance | 18:36 |
Kilos | dont you want to post something there to explain that we arent dead just busy atm | 18:36 |
inetpro | no | 18:36 |
Kilos | ai! | 18:37 |
inetpro | actions speak louder than words | 18:38 |
Kilos | sigh | 18:38 |
Kilos | the last post there is a year old man, just so peeps see we not dead | 18:38 |
inetpro | but we are dead | 18:38 |
Kilos | no we arent | 18:39 |
Kilos | we still kinda active | 18:39 |
inetpro | you just haven't realised it yet :-) | 18:39 |
Kilos | just must slower and fewer | 18:39 |
Kilos | what you mean we are dead? | 18:40 |
inetpro | I'm just joking man... | 18:43 |
inetpro | you can't expect all these wonderful results from us when we're having timeout with families in the Christmas season | 18:43 |
Kilos | man im not rushing you | 18:44 |
Kilos | what you been drinking or smoking? | 18:44 |
Kilos | must i use afrikaans | 18:44 |
inetpro | just build it for us in stead man | 18:45 |
Kilos | i would if i knew how man | 18:45 |
Kilos | you know that | 18:45 |
inetpro | even you can learn it | 18:45 |
Kilos | lol even me | 18:45 |
Kilos | ok gimme a link on a how to | 18:46 |
inetpro | no | 18:46 |
superfly | naandsĂȘ | 18:46 |
Kilos | in mechanics english | 18:46 |
Kilos | hi my fly | 18:46 |
inetpro | hello superfly | 18:46 |
Kilos | inetpro: did you see the new guy | 18:46 |
Kilos | as in did you read logs like you used to | 18:47 |
Kilos | hi Private_User1 | 18:47 |
* inetpro is tired, to be honest | 18:47 | |
superfly | tumbleweed: I think I'm missing a public/private key for the ubuntu-za website server. can I give you my current public key? | 18:47 |
Private_User1 | hey Kilos | 18:47 |
Kilos | haha inetpro whats new | 18:48 |
Kilos | you always tired | 18:48 |
Kilos | get multivitamins and sleep more | 18:48 |
inetpro | Kilos: at least I'm here | 18:48 |
Kilos | yes you are, im proud of you | 18:48 |
inetpro | btw, we've had like 75mm since Monday last week | 18:49 |
Kilos | sjoe | 18:49 |
Kilos | i think i did all that nikola stuff on another drive | 18:50 |
Kilos | wb bushtech | 18:50 |
Kilos | i should get a laptop where i only have one drive to play on | 18:51 |
Kilos | inetpro: question. once on the site after starting the Projects thing do i just tick on add new comment or is that only to comment on that last post? | 19:02 |
inetpro | sorry kilos, no idea what you're saying | 19:13 |
Kilos | ai! | 19:13 |
Kilos | i started all that stuff of nikola i think | 19:13 |
Kilos | then did all the cd moves | 19:14 |
* inetpro going to hit the sack | 19:14 | |
Kilos | ai! | 19:14 |
Kilos | ok then boetie. lekker slaap | 19:14 |
Kilos | you need to go back to work so you can get some rest | 19:15 |
Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:36 |
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