[05:32] Morning everyone [05:51] o/ oh hi [06:12] morning peeps [06:16] o/ hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:16] everyone seems asleep still [06:17] :P [06:23] Anyone using tapatalk with this forum that can help me set it up? [06:44] morning all [06:48] More Kilos [07:01] hi bduk [07:02] Hoe gaan dit vanmore? [07:02] kop nie lekker vandag nie, en daar? [07:03] Hoe so? Diekant net bietjie min gereen. [07:04] ai! die ding besluit self waneer dit wil pein [07:04] Ai nie lekker nie [07:05] miskien van te veel buite werk gister [07:05] sal dink daaroor [07:08] Hmmm dit kom van Sondag werk [07:09] My ma se altyd 'n Sabat steek hou geen week [07:20] ja [07:20] plaas werk het nie sondae nie [07:23] Ja dis waar [07:24] Ek ken maar te goed === Zarw is now known as Wraz [09:43] hi [09:46] hi theblazehen_ [09:54] Compiling stuff using a with a USB disk in USB1.1 mode.. [09:54] And 2 GB of ram [10:07] mmm nice [10:18] good day all [10:19] and Kilos [10:45] phew, got to love LVM [10:49] hi magespawn ThatGraemeGuy , sorry was busy cooking [11:53] wb magespawn [11:58] good afternoon [11:58] Maaz: coffee on [11:58] hi charl [11:58] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [11:59] Maaz: coffee please [11:59] Kilos: Okay [12:01] Maaz coffee please [12:01] magespawn: Yessir [12:01] Maaz large [12:01] In a beer mug just for you magespawn [12:02] Maaz ty [12:02] You are welcome magespawn [12:02] long day [12:02] ThatGraemeGuy: why? disaster recovery [12:02] Coffee's ready for charl, Kilos and magespawn! [12:03] Maaz: ty [12:03] You are welcome Kilos [12:03] Maaz: thanks [12:03] charl: No problem [12:03] hi Kilos [12:03] hi magespawn [12:27] magespawn: no, migrating from 2-disk RAID1 to 4-disk RAID10 without tearing down completely and rebuilding [12:33] sjoe [12:42] hi charl [12:42] ThatGraemeGuy: does LVM just allow you to change the raid type once the disk are installed? [12:46] not exactly [12:47] what i'm doing is a bit dirty [12:47] I start with 2-disks, raid1 with lvm on top of the md device [12:47] add 2 disks, build a new raid10 with only 2 devices & 2 flagged as "missing" [12:48] yes, technically this is only a raid0 at this stage [12:48] then migrate the entire lvm vg from the old raid to the new [12:48] remove the old raid from lvm [12:49] disassemble the old raid, and add its partitions to the new one, replacing the "missing" devices [12:49] the only downtime is 5 mins to add the 2 new disks, and then a quick reboot after doing some housekeeping [12:50] the second reboot is optional but i like to do it to ensure i didn't render it unbootable [12:50] wouldn't want to realise that a few months down the line only, whenever the next reboot happens to occur [12:51] i should also mention that the data on this server is not critical, so i'm doing this without doing a proper backup first, which would normally be a big no-no [12:51] in fact it is one of our backup servers that i'm expanding [12:54] does the raid then use the old information/partitions to rebuild the info across the raid? [13:03] mmmm i don't understand the question :-/ [13:03] at which stage do you mean? [13:04] you have two disk with info on them and two empty disks? [13:04] the original raid 1 and the new disks? [13:05] yes [13:07] so when all the hardware is added the raid should be four disks, the two new disks mirroring the original two? [13:07] no [13:07] here's a step by step, let me know where you don't follow [13:07] i add 2 disks [13:08] right [13:08] wait before that even [13:08] the 2 original disks have 2 partitions each, a small one that is used in raid1 for /boot, and the rest another raid1 which is managed by lvm [13:10] then i add 2 disks and partition them exactly the same [13:10] the 2 small partitions on the new disks are added to the original raid1 that is mounted on /boot [13:11] so now you have a raid1 with 4 devices used for /boot [13:11] and a raid1 with 2 devices from the original disks [13:12] are you still with me? :) [13:13] yes [13:13] now i create a new md device, raid10 [13:14] configured it as a 4-device md, but with 2 component devices missing [13:15] so mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=10 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 missing missing [13:15] or whatvever [13:16] so now i have a "raid10" device, which is actually only raid0 for now because of the missing devices [13:16] follow? [13:16] yes [13:16] right, then you do "pvcreate /dev/md2" [13:17] then "vgextend -v vg0 /dev/md2" [13:17] and now LVM can use the new raid for the volume group vg0 [13:17] still with me? [13:18] vg0 already existed, and was using the old raid device /dev/md1 [13:18] right [13:18] cool [13:18] then you do "pvmove /dev/md1 /dev/md2" [13:19] this tells lvm to physically move the data to the new raid device [13:19] neat way of doing it [13:19] i am going to have to play around with that a bit [13:20] once that is done i tell lvm to stop using the old raid [13:20] at that point the old raid is unused, and lvm is living completely on the new raid [13:21] then i just stop/remove the old raid device, and add the 2 underlying partitions to the new raid10 device, and it starts rebuilding the md device [13:22] ThatGraemeGuy, I have often thought about taking my 2 drive Raid1 up to a 4 drive setup. Is it possible to have the OS setup separate on a small (ssd?)drive ie a 3 drive setup? Should simplify drive management [13:22] I fear my /boot drive failing [13:22] sure you can do that [13:23] assuming you have enough sata ports, etc obviously [13:23] but from a software perspective yes that's entirely doable [13:23] Aaah, good to know [13:23] Thanks [13:23] np [13:23] ThatGraemeGuy: thanks for the lesson [13:24] you're welcome [13:24] yes, enough ports is an essential [13:24] if i wasn't so lazy i'd do a nice blog post step-by-step kinda thing :-D [13:24] i have never worked with any type of raid, so it is good to have some insight [13:25] install virtualbox and start playing around [13:25] create some small virtual hard disks and build raid on them [13:51] that was a bit harsh, i just asked a question no need to disconnect me [13:52] hehe [13:52] didn't even see the question, fwiw [13:53] lol [13:55] software only supports com and lpt for printing, hardware only has usb for printing [13:55] how do i redirect the com to the usb? [13:56] in windows [13:56] lol "in windows" [13:56] wrong channel :P [13:57] indeed thought i would just ask anyway [14:09] i'll take a stop through there at some point [14:16] home time later all [14:19] Yuss this place is empty [14:32] lol hiya Vince-0 [14:32] Hi Kilos [14:32] hows things by you? [14:32] mkay, in the office bored as all hell [14:33] messing with irssi [14:33] bored isnt good [14:33] I tried my hand at running a Ruby app on Asterisk but meh [14:33] bad documentation is always a problem for newbs [14:33] now, I'm bored but at least its home time [14:34] good, dont be so scarce' [14:34] I have been a bit busy with stuffs - holiday, starting a company [14:34] compliments of the season to you too [14:35] have to travel to see friends, family, weddings [14:35] and to you [14:35] cool [14:35] starting your own company? [14:35] ya boet, can't be working for the man all my life [14:35] good [14:36] hard to get going though [14:36] did you manage to get anything out of that hardware ? [14:36] yip ty but most only accept windows [14:36] and the ram was a godsend [14:37] so added 512m to the 128 [14:37] hehe [14:37] I had to find some DDR-400 RAM for an old server [14:37] then gave that pc to my sis [14:37] oh my [14:37] who only mostly accepts windows? [14:37] there was only one 512 in the pile [14:38] the drives [14:38] 6 work with windows on [14:38] and i have kde on the 1TB but had to not use the first 100g [14:39] ooh, that stuffs probably been dropped a few times [14:39] lol [14:39] was fun working through them all [14:40] k, [14:40] I must be off - more InRealLife stuff to do [14:40] chat soon [14:41] go well [14:41] and ty again [14:41] kk [16:31] hi abmo1324 [16:31] welcome to ubuntu-za [16:32] hi [16:33] i'm on the website and i noticed that there had not been any updates in a year... [16:33] wondered if there was still any life in here :-) [16:35] yes we are working on it at the moment [16:36] moving to a better server or something [16:36] but life and hols are keeping the guys busy [16:37] yeah... normal story [16:37] abmo1324: do you need any help or info? [16:38] ohi superfly [16:47] nope - just dropping in [16:47] catching up on almost a year of IRC-lessness [16:49] ouch thats bad [16:51] were you here a year ago? [16:51] with what nick? [16:55] no [16:55] just a sec [16:56] sjoe long sec [17:01] wb ambo [17:01] thats better [17:01] tell us about yourself [17:02] im trying to grow this channel. have been for 4 years now i think [17:03] well I used to run the za mirror [17:04] cool [17:05] they are linked to kenya now [17:05] yeah - the one in za got pulled due to some performance complaints apparently [17:06] but I don't have access to the hardware anymore... moved jobs [17:06] yeah it was bad so Symmetria let us join his mirrors [17:06] do you know him? [17:06] very well yes [17:06] he has moved to kenya and got married [17:07] he and I also admin'd mirror.ac.za together once upon a time ;-) [17:07] oh you know then most likely [17:07] yup [18:26] good evening [18:27] hi inetpro [18:27] hmm... [18:27] what hmm...? [18:28] hello Kilos [18:28] netsplits as I walk in... not nice! [18:28] please tell me what you guys are doing to our website [18:28] moving it or what [18:28] nothing [18:29] eish [18:29] what was all the work for? [18:29] at least I have not had the energy to touch it since last time [18:29] thats what i want to know man [18:29] not what you did today [18:29] what is the whole plan [18:30] obviously we want a new website [18:30] simple as that [18:30] so is it going to move or just be fixed where it is [18:30] ek sukkel darem [18:30] it will have the same name and all [18:31] go on [18:31] doesn't matter where it's hosted, but probably on the same server as now [18:31] ai! sucking blood out of a stone again [18:32] i just want to know so i know what to tell peeps that ask [18:34] as far as I understand, the plan is to put a simple static site in place of a dynamic CMS [18:35] ok ill try remember that [18:36] just something plain and simple to avoid too much effort and high maintenance [18:36] dont you want to post something there to explain that we arent dead just busy atm [18:36] no [18:37] ai! [18:38] actions speak louder than words [18:38] sigh [18:38] the last post there is a year old man, just so peeps see we not dead [18:38] but we are dead [18:39] no we arent [18:39] we still kinda active [18:39] you just haven't realised it yet :-) [18:39] just must slower and fewer [18:40] what you mean we are dead? [18:43] I'm just joking man... [18:43] you can't expect all these wonderful results from us when we're having timeout with families in the Christmas season [18:44] man im not rushing you [18:44] what you been drinking or smoking? [18:44] must i use afrikaans [18:45] just build it for us in stead man [18:45] i would if i knew how man [18:45] you know that [18:45] even you can learn it [18:45] lol even me [18:46] ok gimme a link on a how to [18:46] no [18:46] naandsê [18:46] in mechanics english [18:46] hi my fly [18:46] hello superfly [18:46] inetpro: did you see the new guy [18:47] as in did you read logs like you used to [18:47] hi Private_User1 [18:47] * inetpro is tired, to be honest [18:47] tumbleweed: I think I'm missing a public/private key for the ubuntu-za website server. can I give you my current public key? [18:47] hey Kilos [18:48] haha inetpro whats new [18:48] you always tired [18:48] get multivitamins and sleep more [18:48] Kilos: at least I'm here [18:48] yes you are, im proud of you [18:49] btw, we've had like 75mm since Monday last week [18:49] sjoe [18:50] i think i did all that nikola stuff on another drive [18:50] wb bushtech [18:51] i should get a laptop where i only have one drive to play on [19:02] inetpro: question. once on the site after starting the Projects thing do i just tick on add new comment or is that only to comment on that last post? [19:13] sorry kilos, no idea what you're saying [19:13] ai! [19:13] i started all that stuff of nikola i think [19:14] then did all the cd moves [19:14] * inetpro going to hit the sack [19:14] ai! [19:14] ok then boetie. lekker slaap [19:15] you need to go back to work so you can get some rest [19:36] night all. sleep tight